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[trav69187]

We need to take a huge shot for Haynseworth during the offseason. He is what we need for our run defense. He would make an impact as soon as he steps onto the field (as long as he doesn't step on someone's face on purpose).

[Mike1709]

The Titans have already said that they will franchise tag him

[Ravage!!!]

Plus... how many times in the last 10 years have we seen the TOP TOP guy in FA go for BIG bucks, and then never really hear from him again? If a TOP TOP guy in FA doesn't play HUGE, he never plays up to his contract.

Fans here thinks everyone is overpaid anyway. So there is no way we go after Haynesworth, and there is no way the Titans let him go via FA.

[Max Power]

Corey Williams.

[BroncosTX77]

May be hard to get any halfway decent DT in FA. Notice all the FA DT's Denver has gone through this year. Only way to obtain a better than decent DT may be through a trade.

[Mike1709]

I reckon we ought to draft one in the first or second round this year and then get another later on in the draft

[Jay2Javon4life]

Corey Williams.

so true....the defense has played better as the season has progressed and williams would be a good fit here for bates. He is a big body who is good against the run. Hanynesworth is gonna get tagged anyways, and marcus thomas reminds me of him slightly with his quickness off the line and good pass rushing skills so it would be nice to get a big run stuffer in there and it would only help dj in the middle if we had some real big boys to eat up the oline. Plus if we get williams we can prolly afford some other players which is a better idea then thowing the house away at haynesworth. Then we could concentrate more on safety and lbs in the draft and we will be very set then

[ChangAlang24]

i agree on corey williams. he also has knowledge of playing in bates' scheme.

[elevation INC]

haynesworth is in a contract year and playing for a better contract we will not pick him up. Also u build through the draft its cheaper i would ratehr have 2 dts fron the draft that might be around for awhile than 1 that could be here just for a year.

[gyldenlove]

I would stay the hell away from Haynesworth, he is playing great in a contract year - yay, he is not the first to do that. He is also a major liability in terms of personality, after his head stomping incident he has a huge bullseye on his head and next time he does something stupid the league will take aim at that bullseye and dump all the crap they can on it.

I would rather see us pick up someone early in the draft and get an interim DT in FA for cheap to plug the hole for a little while.

[NinjaPirateFunk]

COOOOOREY WILLLLLIAMS

he is playing better and hasn't gone olafbeserker on multiple occasions

[DancingHorsey]

i agree on corey williams. he also has knowledge of playing in bates' scheme.

Isn't Corey Williams more of a stuffing, anchoring DT anyway? Haynesworth really isn't that kind of tackle, and that's what Bates wants.

[NinjaPirateFunk]

anytime a DT get 7 sacks in 13 games, i'm on board, cause he's got to be doing something positive to get those sacks. and he did very well the year before this so unless he signed a one year deal or something, he isn't just playing above his head for a big contract.

i dunno why people want headstomper so much and not this guy

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

Isn't Corey Williams more of a stuffing, anchoring DT anyway? Haynesworth really isn't that kind of tackle, and that's what Bates wants.


No, you have that completely backwards. Haynesworth is the prototypical Nose Tackle that stuffs. He's just talented enough to crush the pocket from time to time and get some sacks. He's always been a solid Nose Tackle, this year he's taken his game up another notch.


Corey Williams is more of a pass rush specialist. He's essentially the same player as Marcus Thomas will develop into. Both guys need a pure Nose Tackle next to them to be effective. Corey Williams has Ryan Pickett which allows him to stunt and penetrate.


If Haynesworth were to come to Denver, he'd make Marcus Thomas and Alvin McKinley better overnight. Along with our LBs, DEs, and Safeties. If Corey Williams comes to Denver he makes the pass rush on the D-line more effective, but he's still too small to hold up as a starter in the running game. Bates used him as a pass rush DT and not a starter.


I think this board is confused as to Corey Williams' value. He'd be a great pickup if we needed a 3 technique to complement a dominating Nose, or if we needed a 3rd DT that could effectively play the run or pass on any given play. And we could certainly still use Corey Williams, but he would be limited in effectiveness without a Nose to command some double teams.

And remember, Corey Williams is used to being sandwiched by two dominating players. Aaron Kampman is arguably the best DE in the NFL, so he gets doubleteamed all game long. Ryan Pickett is having a Pro Bowl season, so he's getting double teamed all game long. Not to mention, you have KGB coming off the edge on the other side. When Corey Williams actually find himself in the game, he's always one on one.

In Denver he'd be sandwiched between John Engleberger and Marcus Thomas, who would be forced to stay at Nose Tackle full time. I dont think Williams would even get 4 sacks on Denver. And he can't clog full time, so I'm not sure he'd be worth his salary for what he could bring to the table in our defense.


Now....if we somehow got a starting Nose Tackle, started Williams next to that Nose Tackle, and had Marcus Thomas and Alvin McKinley in reserve, THEN that would be a damn nice situation. We'd still need to find a Power End that scares people more than Engleberger though, so hopefully we'll resign Ekuban or the rooks will develop faster.

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

No, you have that completely backwards. Haynesworth is the prototypical Nose Tackle that stuffs. He's just talented enough to crush the pocket from time to time and get some sacks. He's always been a solid Nose Tackle, this year he's taken his game up another notch.


Corey Williams is more of a pass rush specialist. He's essentially the same player as Marcus Thomas will develop into. Both guys need a pure Nose Tackle next to them to be effective. Corey Williams has Ryan Pickett which allows him to stunt and penetrate.


If Haynesworth were to come to Denver, he'd make Marcus Thomas and Alvin McKinley better overnight. Along with our LBs, DEs, and Safeties. If Corey Williams comes to Denver he makes the pass rush on the D-line more effective, but he's still too small to hold up as a starter in the running game. Bates used him as a pass rush DT and not a starter.


I think this board is confused as to Corey Williams' value. He'd be a great pickup if we needed a 3 technique to complement a dominating Nose, or if we needed a 3rd DT that could effectively play the run or pass on any given play. And we could certainly still use Corey Williams, but he would be limited in effectiveness without a Nose to command some double teams.

And remember, Corey Williams is used to being sandwiched by two dominating players. Aaron Kampman is arguably the best DE in the NFL, so he gets doubleteamed all game long. Ryan Pickett is having a Pro Bowl season, so he's getting double teamed all game long. Not to mention, you have KGB coming off the edge on the other side. When Corey Williams actually find himself in the game, he's always one on one.

In Denver he'd be sandwiched between John Engleberger and Marcus Thomas, who would be forced to stay at Nose Tackle full time. I dont think Williams would even get 4 sacks on Denver. And he can't clog full time, so I'm not sure he'd be worth his salary for what he could bring to the table in our defense.


Now....if we somehow got a starting Nose Tackle, started Williams next to that Nose Tackle, and had Marcus Thomas and Alvin McKinley in reserve, THEN that would be a damn nice situation. We'd still need to find a Power End that scares people more than Engleberger though, so hopefully we'll resign Ekuban or the rooks will develop faster.Good Post :salute:

[NinjaPirateFunk]

that's true about williams but i don't see engelberger being here around the time we'd acquire him. we have ekuban (who may leave but may stay) moss, crowder and elvis. eventually we'll ditch 'bergles. most DTs like williams need to be one on one that's true but every rare once in awhile you get a line that's just so good on each end that the DT benefits from that alone. ideally we can be that good with elvis and whoever else on the other side, but ehhhh. who knows if we will be. but it's worth a shot. i mean, he's better than mckinley or some of the players we've had there lately. it's not like we'd be signing another mario fatefehi or anything, knock on wood. two rushing DTs with two rushing ends, eh, it might just be crazy enough to work.

i still say go for williams because right now while we don't have the stuffing DT, that doesn't mean we can't acquire one next year or the year after while we still have williams. of any coach, shanahan builds teams slowly over a course of seasons, not all at once, contrary to what it may appear like this season.

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

that's true about williams but i don't see engelberger being here around the time we'd acquire him. we have ekuban (who may leave but may stay) moss, crowder and elvis. eventually we'll ditch 'bergles. most DTs like williams need to be one on one that's true but every rare once in awhile you get a line that's just so good on each end that the DT benefits from that alone. ideally we can be that good with elvis and whoever else on the other side, but ehhhh. who knows if we will be. but it's worth a shot. i mean, he's better than mckinley or some of the players we've had there lately. it's not like we'd be signing another mario fatefehi or anything, knock on wood. two rushing DTs with two rushing ends, eh, it might just be crazy enough to work.

i still say go for williams because right now while we don't have the stuffing DT, that doesn't mean we can't acquire one next year or the year after while we still have williams. of any coach, shanahan builds teams slowly over a course of seasons, not all at once, contrary to what it may appear like this season.


Can't argue with that logic at all. I think we're a better team with a talented DT like Williams then without him. It does come down to cost though.