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Max Power
12-11-2007, 06:58 PM
The order is current, as if the draft were to be held today. I did this out of a combination of boredom and laziness, even though I have finals to study for (but this is more important anyway). The Broncos pick, which we all care the most about, is bolded below.

1. Miami - Darren McFadden/RB/Arkansas
Why: Because he is the best player in the draft, and will provide insurance as well as a great complement to Ronnie Brown. Cam Cameron is an offensive-minded guy so he wants to continue to add pieces to make it more explosive.

TRADE: Oakland trades #7, 2nd round pick, and 2009 1st round pick to St. Louis for #2 overall.

2. Oakland - Chris Long/DE/Virginia
Why: Because he is Howie Long's son, and he will help the Raiders run defense and pass-rush.

3. St. Louis - Jake Long/OT/Michigan
Why: Because Orlando Pace might need to be replaced.

4. Atlanta - Glenn Dorsey/DT/LSU
Why: Because Atlanta feels they can get a top signal-caller in round 2, and they feel Dorsey can have a Warren Sapp-type impact.

5. NY Jets - Vernon Gholston/DE/Ohio State
Why: Because teams will have to gameplan for this QB-seeking missile.

6. Kansas City Chiefs - Matt Ryan/QB/Boston College
Why: Because Croyle will never be anything better than average as a starting QB.

7. New England Patriots - James Laurinaitis/MLB/Ohio State
They're going to have to start finding replacements for their old linebackers.
"Little Animal" Laurinaitis is a good start.

8. Baltimore Ravens - Andre Woodson/QB/Kentucky
Why: We know Boller sucks, McNair is done, and until Troy Smith proves he can be a good full-time starter, this remains the biggest need for B-more.

9. Cincinnati Bengals - Sedrick Ellis/DT/USC
Why: A disrupting presence on the D-line is a good start to their quest to improve their woeful defense.

10. Carolina Panthers - Kenny Phillips/S/Miami
Because he is by far the best safety available. Team him up with Chris Harris and the defensive backfield is set for years to come.

11. Chicago Bears - Ryan Clady/OT/Boise State
They need to start rebuilding the O-line. They could take Brohm here but Grossman showed improvement before he got injured, and they still have Orton to fall back on. Nonetheless, a QB is a likely pick for them later in the draft.

12. Philadelphia Eagles - DeSean Jackson/WR/California
Because the Eagles lack an explosive returner outside of Westbrook and they don't want to use him in that role. He's very raw both, and will need to gain at least 20 pounds, but he could be a Santana Moss-esque receiver.

13. Arizona Cardinals - Malcolm Jenkins/CB/Ohio State
It's clear that Arizona needs guys who can cover better. Jenkins is one of those guys.

14. New Orleans - Reggie Smith/DB/Oklahoma
Smith can play corner or safety but I prefer him at corner, and that's where the Saints really need to improve.

15. Houston - Sam Baker/OT/USC
Gives them an upgrade at left tackle.

16. Detroit - Dan Connor/LB/Penn State
He gives 110% every play and never misses a tackle. That makes a potentially great MLB.

[B]17. Denver - Frank Okam/DT/Texas
Big body to plug the middle and toughen the run D.

18. Washington - Derrick Harvey/DE/Florida
The Redskins aren't putting enough pressure on the QB.

19. Minnesota - Malcolm Kelly/WR/Oklahoma
He and Sidney Rice - the next Randy Moss and Cris Carter tandem? Maybe not, but it still figures to be pretty damn good.

20. Tennessee - Early Doucet/WR/LSU
This guy is a flat-out playmaker, especially with the ball in his hands, and should provide a reliable target for Young.

21. Buffalo - Fred Davis/TE/USC
Davis IS a posession receiver at the TE position and a great red-zone target.

22. Dallas (from Cleveland) - Antoine Cason/CB/Arizona
Dallas secondary is still suspect, and it starts at the cornerback position.

23. Tampa Bay - Brian Brohm/QB/Louisville
Brohm - the Brady Quinn of 2008. Jon Gruden is a QB collector, and this one could be good.

24. San Diego Chargers - Erin Henderson/ILB/Maryland
A 3-4 defense can never have any enough good LBs capable of playing in it.

25. Seattle Seahawks - Jonathan Stewart/RB/Oregon
The Seahawks could not have asked for more to have this stud running back fall into their laps.

26. Pittsburgh - Jeff Otah/OT/Pittsburgh
He's a local kid with tremendous size and upside who projects best to RT but could play anywhere.

27. NY Giants - Keith Rivers/LB/USC
The Giants are happy to get the best weakside linebacker in the draft this late. He will complete the potentially badass trio of Kiwanuka - Pierce - Rivers.

28. Jacksonville - Quentin Groves/DE/LB/Auburn
Might need to bulk up a bit before he can be a full-time end, but a great athlete who knows how to get after the QB.

29. Green Bay - Mike Jenkins/CB/USF
Al Harris and Charles Woodson aren't getting any younger.

30. San Francisco (from Indianapolis) - Adarius Bowman/WR/Oklahoma State
Can adjust to errant-passes, which is a must if you're playing with Alex Smith.

31. Dallas - Rashard Mendenhall/RB/Illinois
Fills the gap left by the likely departure of one Julius Jones.

32. New England – No Pick
As if it hurts them.

Broncosinindy
12-11-2007, 08:32 PM
Solid draft the only thinkg i would argue is mcfadden going to miami

elevation INC
12-12-2007, 09:26 AM
solid but i disagree with oakland, KC, tampa bay


oakland- should still be able to get him without the crazy trades
KC- croyle will be good with o-line help, i think they draft OL not QB
tampa- needs a WR not a QB. garcia can get that team rolling for at least 2 more years, i think they look for a wideout.



good effort and otherwise very solid

elevation INC
12-12-2007, 09:31 AM
Solid draft the only thinkg i would argue is mcfadden going to miami




oh yeah i forgot about this 1 i think houston will try to trade up to get him, ahman green is injury prone and dayne is never a full time starter.


miami has 3 reliable backs in brown,chatman,and williams. dont be suprised to see miami grab a WR or trade down with houston for Andre davis and their 2nd and 5th picks. i think if they stick with their number 1 they grab a QB or WR

BroncosTX77
12-12-2007, 09:50 AM
oh yeah i forgot about this 1 i think houston will try to trade up to get him, ahman green is injury prone and dayne is never a full time starter.


miami has 3 reliable backs in brown,chatman,and williams. dont be suprised to see miami grab a WR or trade down with houston for Andre davis and their 2nd and 5th picks. i think if they stick with their number 1 they grab a QB or WR

Houston really has nothing to trade to move up and get him. Texans OLine is just decimated this year, they will either draft OT or Jonathan Stewart (if he comes out). Trading down and grabbing Kevin Smith is also a possibility if the OT's they want and J.S. are gone since Houston doesnt have a 2nd round pick.


As for the draft presented to us Petrino leaving gives the draft a wrinkle.

1. Personally think Miami will take Chris Long with 1st pick.
2. Chiefs wont take a QB. Edwards is real high on Croyle and needs to fit the pieces around him. Look for OL with their pick.
3. That leaves Chicago to take Matt Ryan.
4. Cowboys will snag a WR with 1 of their 2 picks.

Other than that I could definitely see the rest happening. :)

CP Inc~

leeroy_go_cutler
12-12-2007, 10:30 AM
i think i have found the next big reciever for the broncos coming up in this years draft. and yet he ain't the biggest. he's none other than earl bennett from vanderbilt. the guy's about 6ft. i think he was 170lbs. anyway, the reason i feel he'll be a real good fit with the broncos is guess who he played with in 2005? jay cutler. cutler should know how this guy opperates and plays. so if i were the gm, i'd try like hell to get earl and put him with cutler and make them solidify like troy aikman and micheal irvin or streve young and jerry rice.:rockon:

underrated29
12-12-2007, 02:05 PM
nice effort.

miami i dont think will tame dmac

atlanta will take brian brohm.

Nick
12-12-2007, 02:48 PM
1. Miami - Darren McFadden/RB/Arkansas
Why: Because he is the best player in the draft, and will provide insurance as well as a great complement to Ronnie Brown. Cam Cameron is an offensive-minded guy so he wants to continue to add pieces to make it more explosive.

TRADE: Oakland trades #7, 2nd round pick, and 2009 1st round pick to New England for #2 overall.

2. Oakland - Chris Long/DE/Virginia (From New England, whom aquired from San Francisco)
Why: Because he is Howie Long's son, and he will help the Raiders run defense and pass-rush.

3. St. Louis - Jake Long/OT/Michigan
Why: Because Orlando Pace might need to be replaced.

4. Atlanta - Glenn Dorsey/DT/LSU
Why: Because Atlanta feels they can get a top signal-caller in round 2, and they feel Dorsey can have a Warren Sapp-type impact.

5. NY Jets - Vernon Gholston/DE/Ohio State
Why: Because teams will have to gameplan for this QB-seeking missile.

6. Kansas City Chiefs - Matt Ryan/QB/Boston College
Why: Because Croyle will never be anything better than average as a starting QB.

7. New England Patriots (from Raiders) - James Laurinaitis/MLB/Ohio State
They're going to have to start finding replacements for their old linebackers.
"Little Animal" Laurinaitis is a good start.

8. Baltimore Ravens - Andre Woodson/QB/Kentucky
Why: We know Boller sucks, McNair is done, and until Troy Smith proves he can be a good full-time starter, this remains the biggest need for B-more.

9. Cincinnati Bengals - Sedrick Ellis/DT/USC
Why: A disrupting presence on the D-line is a good start to their quest to improve their woeful defense.

10. Carolina Panthers - Kenny Phillips/S/Miami
Because he is by far the best safety available. Team him up with Chris Harris and the defensive backfield is set for years to come.

11. Chicago Bears - Ryan Clady/OT/Boise State
They need to start rebuilding the O-line. They could take Brohm here but Grossman showed improvement before he got injured, and they still have Orton to fall back on. Nonetheless, a QB is a likely pick for them later in the draft.

12. Philadelphia Eagles - DeSean Jackson/WR/California
Because the Eagles lack an explosive returner outside of Westbrook and they don't want to use him in that role. He's very raw both, and will need to gain at least 20 pounds, but he could be a Santana Moss-esque receiver.

13. Arizona Cardinals - Malcolm Jenkins/CB/Ohio State
It's clear that Arizona needs guys who can cover better. Jenkins is one of those guys.

14. New Orleans - Reggie Smith/DB/Oklahoma
Smith can play corner or safety but I prefer him at corner, and that's where the Saints really need to improve.

15. Houston - Sam Baker/OT/USC
Gives them an upgrade at left tackle.

16. Denver - Frank Okam/DT/Texas
Big body to plug the middle and toughen the run D.

17. Detroit - Dan Connor/LB/Penn State
He gives 110% every play and never misses a tackle. That makes a potentially great MLB.

18. Washington - Derrick Harvey/DE/Florida
The Redskins aren't putting enough pressure on the QB.

19. Tennessee - Early Doucet/WR/LSU
This guy is a flat-out playmaker, especially with the ball in his hands, and should provide a reliable target for Young.

20. Buffalo - Fred Davis/TE/USC
Davis IS a posession receiver at the TE position and a great red-zone target.

21. Minnesota - Malcolm Kelly/WR/Oklahoma
He and Sidney Rice - the next Randy Moss and Cris Carter tandem? Maybe not, but it still figures to be pretty damn good.

22. Dallas (from Cleveland) - Antoine Cason/CB/Arizona
Dallas secondary is still suspect, and it starts at the cornerback position.

23. Tampa Bay - Brian Brohm/QB/Louisville
Brohm - the Brady Quinn of 2008. Jon Gruden is a QB collector, and this one could be good.

24. San Diego Chargers - Erin Henderson/ILB/Maryland
A 3-4 defense can never have any enough good LBs capable of playing in it.

25. Seattle Seahawks - Jonathan Stewart/RB/Oregon
The Seahawks could not have asked for more to have this stud running back fall into their laps.

26. Pittsburgh - Jeff Otah/OT/Pittsburgh
He's a local kid with tremendous size and upside who projects best to RT but could play anywhere.

27. NY Giants - Keith Rivers/LB/USC
The Giants are happy to get the best weakside linebacker in the draft this late. He will complete the potentially badass trio of Kiwanuka - Pierce - Rivers.

28. Jacksonville - Quentin Groves/DE/LB/Auburn
Might need to bulk up a bit before he can be a full-time end, but a great athlete who knows how to get after the QB.

29. Green Bay - Mike Jenkins/CB/USF
Al Harris and Charles Woodson aren't getting any younger.

30. San Francisco (from Indianapolis) - Adarius Bowman/WR/Oklahoma State
Can adjust to errant-passes, which is a must if you're playing with Alex Smith.

31. Dallas - Rashard Mendenhall/RB/Illinois
Fills the gap left by the likely departure of one Julius Jones.

32. New England – No Pick
As if it hurts them.

Nick
12-12-2007, 03:06 PM
1. Miami (0-13) - – Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

Two players worthy of the number 1 pick. Once again, the decision comes down to a defensive lineman and a running back: Glenn Dorsey and Darren McFadden. The Dolphins need far more help on the interior of their line with both Vonnie Holliday and Keith Traylor past their prime. Ronnie Brown is expected to be fully healthy next season, Lorenzo Booker, and Chatman have shown some flashes recently. With the defensive line a farther cry for help, Dorsey is my pick. Dorsey is a monster in the interior that is the best defensive tackle prospect in years.

BroncosTX77
12-12-2007, 03:08 PM
nice effort.

miami i dont think will tame dmac

atlanta will take brian brohm.


Bobby Petrino quit on the Falcons and went to Ar-Kansas. I seriously doubt that Atlanta will take Brohm that high since Matt Ryan and Andre Woodson are rated higher. DMac would be a fit here or DLine.

BroncosTX77
12-12-2007, 03:11 PM
1. Miami (0-13) - – Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

Two players worthy of the number 1 pick. Once again, the decision comes down to a defensive lineman and a running back: Glenn Dorsey and Darren McFadden. The Dolphins need far more help on the interior of their line with both Vonnie Holliday and Keith Traylor past their prime. Ronnie Brown is expected to be fully healthy next season, Lorenzo Booker, and Chatman have shown some flashes recently. With the defensive line a farther cry for help, Dorsey is my pick. Dorsey is a monster in the interior that is the best defensive tackle prospect in years.

Dorsey does not fit the current Dolphin defensive scheme. Miami would look long and hard about Chris Long or taking DMac so Patsies don't get him. It is possible they do trade down couple spots for more draft picks and still get Long. DMac is a possibility due to Ronnie Brown's injury and having a 1-2 combo is never a bad thing.

Nick
12-12-2007, 04:15 PM
Dorsey does not fit the current Dolphin defensive scheme.

I disagree... Please explain the Scheme you are talking about. The Dolphins run what is called a 'Hybrid 3-4' which incorporates elements of both the 3-4 and the 4-3 defense depending on the situation and personnel on the field. They also use a great deal of Nickle.

I think he might fit pretty nice in their system.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
12-12-2007, 04:21 PM
Dorsey does not fit the current Dolphin defensive scheme. Miami would look long and hard about Chris Long or taking DMac so Patsies don't get him. It is possible they do trade down couple spots for more draft picks and still get Long. DMac is a possibility due to Ronnie Brown's injury and having a 1-2 combo is never a bad thing.


I agree about Dorsey. I think Chris Long or Jake Long make more sense. Or even one of the QBs. It's not like John Beck is a lock to be anything more than a backup.

I don't think McFadden is a consideration. Remember, many scouts do not feel he's going to be an elite pro prospect because of his body type, specifically his chicken legs. And the Dolphins do have Ronnie Brown, whom was the most productive RB in the league until his injury. And he's being paid Top 3 money.

But if I was going to do a mock draft, Chris Long would be the pick at this juncture. He could potentially replace Jason Taylor in his elephant role or he could bulk up and star at DE, though the team is pretty stacked at DE with Wright and Roth, along with Holiday. And to be honest, a #1 pick would basically require him to slim a bit and play the elephant role, creating havoc and getting sacks. No one is going to pay that much for a 3-4 DE.

underrated29
12-12-2007, 04:35 PM
mug, whats up man. you gotta post some of your good insight at the other site broncosforums.com. i miss ya there man.

WABronco
12-12-2007, 04:47 PM
Overall not too bad. I strongly doubt KC would burn a high pick on a QB and ditch Croyle after less than a year of starts, unless Edwards is ditched as well. I haven't really kept up to speed, but is Gholston really a top 5 pick?

A little nitpicking with Dallas also. Their corners are very strong one Newman is easily among the top 5 at his position. They obviously don't have a lot of needs, so a luxury pick can be argued IMO. Same with Mendenhall. Barber probably isn't going anywhere--can you justify using a first on a 10-15 carry-guy?

str8jacket
12-12-2007, 05:54 PM
You have the Bills taking Conner.........do they not have Posluzny (spelling)?

Max Power
12-12-2007, 06:08 PM
You have the Bills taking Conner.........do they not have Posluzny (spelling)?

I don't have the Bills taking Connor; I have them taking Fred Davis. I have the Lions taking Connor.

str8jacket
12-12-2007, 06:18 PM
I don't have the Bills taking Connor; I have them taking Fred Davis. I have the Lions taking Connor.

Oh....my bad haha...had my mind on Buffalo since i was just watching ESPN :P

Max Power
12-12-2007, 06:30 PM
Thanks for the replies, everyone. Now I'll address some of your objections/questions.

I agree that the Dolphins need to rebuild the defense and that should take top priority, but I think McFadden is just too good to pass up. Dolphins GM Randy Mueller has been quoted as saying that when you're drafting in the top 5, you always take the best available player. And McFadden is it.

I also agree that the O-line is in the most dire need of upgrade for the Chiefs, but I don't think they would pass on the best QB in the draft (IMO) for just any O-lineman. Clady is a good prospect, but still relatively raw. I'm not sure Sam Baker is what they want in an OT.

To me, Chris Long is going to be a top 5 pick. So if Oakland is picking at #7, and they really want him, I think they'll have to trade up. And I believe he's worth it. The man has 14 sacks as 3-4 DE. A 3-4 DE! Usually those guys just play gap control. That's a testament to his athleticism, motor, versatility, etc.

I also believe if Vernon Gholston declares, he is going to grade out as a top 10 pick. He could realistically play 4-3 end or 3-4 OLB/edge rusher and excel at either. He has 13 sacks on the season and tallied 3 of them vs. Michigan, with one going against the great Jake Long. He is solid against the run as well. Not to mention he is absolutely ripped to shreds:
http://menofthescarletandgray.com/wp-content/uploads/gholston.jpg
He's almost as jacked as me! :P Anyway, I would expect him to test very well at the combine in drills, the bench press, etc.

For the Cowboys, Newman is an outstanding corner, but Anthony Henry is fair game for an upgrade. Enter Antoine Cason, a guy I've been impressed with everytime I watched him play. He rarely gives up the big play while making many of his own. He's physical, but not overly fast. He might work best in a cover 2 scheme to use his skillset to its fullest advantage.

My fingers are tired, and I've droned on long enough. Please keep the criticism/feedback coming!:)

esphurricane
12-24-2007, 12:50 AM
Bobby Petrino quit on the Falcons and went to Ar-Kansas. I seriously doubt that Atlanta will take Brohm that high since Matt Ryan and Andre Woodson are rated higher. DMac would be a fit here or DLine.

Brohm is the best QB in the draft,,,The only reason he fell behind those two is his team went 6-6,,,because of the coaching change and a horrible defense. Trust me when they see Brohm throw and they see how accurate and strong his arm is and what a great pocket passer he is,,,he should move back to no 1....I could be wrong though,,,most gms and analysts put too much emphasis on a guys size and not his heart...like freeney and dumervil,,Hell they still think v young is as good as cutler or m leinart..When it comes to Qbs they'll throw everything the guys done for four years out the window and pick a guy who had 1 good game,,jamarcus russel over brady quinn,,hahahahha,,,what a joke that was,,