shaun rogers AND corey williams

[chaseb13]

corey williams

shaun rodgers

the idea of bringing in one or the other has been brought up a lot but denver rotates defensive lineman very oftenly. marcus thomas will be good. but in time. he needs to gain confidence and there is no better way to do it than on fresh legs. he can rotate with shaun rodgers who should only play 60 or 70 percent of the snaps. or sub in for williams when he gets wore down as williams would get more snaps in but dts always have to rotate.

in truth denver has too many needs to fill than they can with the draft. bringing in both of these two would mean that they have thomas who is very young and williams who is 27. a great duo for the future and one less need to fill come draft time. as far as losing a draft pick it is a fourth round and even though rodgers is 29 he is overwhelmingly better than anything we could get in the 4th.

with a long contract denver should be able to bring williams in for 3.5-4.5 mil a year. while denver already understands the contract of shaun rodgers.

so is it worth it?

[stnzed]

Now yer talkin!!!!!! Hell yeah it's worth it.

Rogers, Williams and Thomas would be a pretty sweet rotation......

[SBboundBRONCOS]

absolutely :rockon:

i would be a very happy man if that happens. get a Rb in the first a WR in the second and then LB in the 4th

that would be ideal, both will make 10 times the impact a rookie DT would have

[chaseb13]

wow... thanx. i just dont see the FO being ballsy enough to try this. if this happened the defenses run support problems would be completely solved and it would open up our pass rush and blitzing abilities unbelievably with williams and rodgers both having huge attention in offensive blocking schemes.

result one: way better run defense, against the run there would be no other tackle duo in the league like williams and rodgers. which would allow our mlb to help the olb against the run on the outside.

indirect result two: more sacks. because of the interior attention moss, crowder, and dumervil will likely be facing single blockers. huge advantage. they were always seeing multiple blockers last year.

indirect result three: more forced turnovers. one or maybe two of the linemen will see single blockers. williams and rodgers can bull rush any interior lineman in the league if being faced by a blocker. marcus thomas is a finesse dt and can hold his own. crowder is a phyical end that can muscle his way through more than half of the right tackles and dumervial and moss are purely speed rushers. and this pressure is without even blitzing a lb or saftey. because the pressure, our corners will not have to cover a reciever for what seems like 10 seconds anymore. the throws will be more eratic and this is when any corner in the league makes their money especially champ bailey and dre bly.

[CTM]

I like the idea of Corey Williams in a Broncos uniform but I'm not completely sold on Shaun Rodgers. There have been questions on his work ethic and I dont know if we have the leadership in the locker room to fix it. If we got Wilson back I would be much more comfortable with Rodgers because of the leadership factor. But then if we get both Wilson and Rodgers we might run into Salary cap issues. Corey Williams definately, Rodgers, maybe.

[JaysusCutler]

Now thats the best suggestion i have heard on the boards this year. Bravo.:clap:

[stnzed]

Now thats the best suggestion i have heard on the boards this year. Bravo.:clap:


It IS a great suggestion...:D...

[KWHIT97]

I love it, trade for Rogers, sign Corey Williams or Randy Starks (cheapest), re-sign Sam Brandon and sign Jordan Gross!
Then draft; RB Jonathan Stewart in the 1st, LB Ali Highsmith in the 2nd, and do whatever it takes to get DaJuan Morgan, even if it means trading both of our 4ths!

[D.J.55]

I feel that if we were to land both then that would be great for us. But im not sure it would solve all of run problems. I still wouldnt mind adding another DT through the draft. Also wouldnt mind seeing another DE drafted.

[lancane]

I feel that if we were to land both then that would be great for us. But im not sure it would solve all of run problems. I still wouldnt mind adding another DT through the draft. Also wouldnt mind seeing another DE drafted.

I completely agree...I think getting one of them should be enough whether it is Corey Williams or Shaun Rogers, but drafting a latter round tackle should still be a must, hell who knows we may get another steal. And I am all for drafting a second day defensive end. Right now we are not sure on Ekuban, Moss or a few other ends we have, Dumervil is a pass rush specialist and even if he is put in as a full-time end we need to be able to given him rotational breaks now and then, it is smart and it is sound insurance for the d-line.

[BroncoKazuki]

I feel that if we were to land both then that would be great for us. But im not sure it would solve all of run problems. I still wouldnt mind adding another DT through the draft. Also wouldnt mind seeing another DE drafted.

Thats what makes this draft good to get quality DT's

we can add Okam who may or may not rise
as well as some other DTs that are in the later rounds if we cant get Okam

[chaseb13]

it seemes like a good idea. but our cap isnt horrible. and well have a decent amount of space if they trade javon, cut him, restructure, same with gold, restructure henry or cut him. im not saying i agree with this but it is what denver will do. they will have the space to make this move if they so desire. rodgers is not as worth it as corey williams. but he is a completely legit run stuffer and a huge body along with williams the attention will allow dj and whoever to run around and make plays. and wed only be giving up a fourth, unless okam falls this far, unlikely, there is no other person in the draft that we can plug in and get the same return. we have 2 fourths, we give detroit one, and hold onto the other and hope he falls here. thats the best chance we have at getting him. and okam learning from rodgers would be ideal because okam will be a rodgers type player and not like corey williams.

[D.J.55]

I dont think Okam is what we are looking for. There are some surprize in this draft at DT that i think would be good picks. I know Okam is smart but he lack the football fire (heart) that DT should play with. He years at Texas where up and down. To inconsistant for me. I think Okam will test will at the combine and at his pro days but i expect scout to put a big red flag around his lack of heart and inconsistancey.

[SimonSteele]

absolutely :rockon:

i would be a very happy man if that happens. get a Rb in the first a WR in the second and then LB in the 4th

that would be ideal, both will make 10 times the impact a rookie DT would have

Even if they did this they would still need a first round DT talent drafted or we're in the same hole we're always in. A bunch of rotating free agents. We need to be drafting in the trenches mother truckers.

[chaseb13]

they would not need a 1st round dt. thomas, mckinley, rodgers, williams. mckinnley is a bakup but a quality one but is depth. behind thomas (40-50% of snaps), rodgers (60%), and williams (70%), the 4th defensive tackle would get 20-30% of snaps or less due to denver seldomly bringing dts off in longlong passing downs. 50 snaps a game. the first round dt would 10-15 plays a game max. that is not worth it. if they do this they should not draft one high. maybe wait until next year when denver better not trade away draft picks and take one in the third. denver is an offensive teams and MUST avg. more than 19 points a game.

[JvDub95]

Bringing in both of them would solve the problem at DT, leaving other options for the #1 pick. I wouldn't mind seeing both of these guys come in, perfect age and experience for both players. If that were to happen, I would like to see tackle taken in first round, it's almost like the perfect salution:rockon:

[lancane]

Bringing in both of them would solve the problem at DT, leaving other options for the #1 pick. I wouldn't mind seeing both of these guys come in, perfect age and experience for both players. If that were to happen, I would like to see tackle taken in first round, it's almost like the perfect salution:rockon:

What is that your trying to say? We should sign Williams, trade for Rogers and draft a defensive tackle in round one? That is way too much if that is what you are trying to say!

[BroncosTX77]

What is that your trying to say? We should sign Williams, trade for Rogers and draft a defensive tackle in round one? That is way too much if that is what you are trying to say!


Most like OT.


That sig would look better if you had a background. I'm just saying. :cheers:

[lancane]

Most like OT.


That sig would look better if you had a background. I'm just saying. :cheers:

LOL...Kt made if for me cause all the guff over #27...so I will not complain! ;)

[stnzed]

I feel that if we were to land both then that would be great for us. But im not sure it would solve all of run problems. I still wouldnt mind adding another DT through the draft. Also wouldnt mind seeing another DE drafted.


Even better thinking! They'll still need a DT to rotate with Rogers (Okam, 4th round), they have nothing of the sort. Couldn't agree more......

[chaseb13]

okam is a long shot in the third and simply will not be there in the fourth. i would be willing for denver to trade up to the third round to get him but he wont be there in the fourth. if he is denver better f***ing take him. as far as the de is concerned not yet. our ends are progressing and one of the three should better their chances againt the run. but as far as a pass rush percpective they are fine. they said they would use free agency as a depth builder, and if denver wants to build depth at that position watch for them to sign a mid caliber de on the tail end of career with a little gas in the tank

[Dub-DeuceKnight]

they would not need a 1st round dt. thomas, mckinley, rodgers, williams. mckinnley is a bakup but a quality one but is depth. behind thomas (40-50% of snaps), rodgers (60%), and williams (70%), the 4th defensive tackle would get 20-30% of snaps or less due to denver seldomly bringing dts off in longlong passing downs. 50 snaps a game. the first round dt would 10-15 plays a game max. that is not worth it. if they do this they should not draft one high. maybe wait until next year when denver better not trade away draft picks and take one in the third. denver is an offensive teams and MUST avg. more than 19 points a game.
If the first round DT is Sedrick Ellis, if he is there it doesn't matter what has already gone down, you snag em and make like the Giants to the Super Bowl.

[BroncoKazuki]

If the first round DT is Sedrick Ellis, if he is there it doesn't matter what has already gone down, you snag em and make like the Giants to the Super Bowl.

Last time I checked were the Denver Broncos not the Giants :coffee:

and theres more then one way to build a championship team my friend ;)

[chaseb13]

maybe if ellis is there at 12. i dont see it happening. but if hes there ok. if not denver better trade down and get more picks in the draft we need starters not more rotation players.

[JvDub95]

What is that your trying to say? We should sign Williams, trade for Rogers and draft a defensive tackle in round one? That is way too much if that is what you are trying to say!

Nope, i'm saying if that were to play out where Roger and Williams signed, we would then go after OT - I should have made myself more clear, i'll do better next time:D