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MilitantDBFan
02-25-2008, 05:08 PM
Trades/Free agency

- D. Foxworth and 12th Overall to Lions for Shaun Rogers and 15th Pick.
- Ian Gold and 4th Round Pick to Saints for 3rd Round Pick
- Javon Walker and 4th Round Pick to Dallas for 3rd Round Pick

-Sign DE Justin Smith from Bengals
-Sign OLB Boss Bailey from Lions
-Sign WR Kelly Washington from Patriots
-Sign S Greg Wesley from Chiefs

1st Round Pick - Limas Sweed - WR - Texas
2nd Round Pick - Chris Johnson - RB - E. Carolina
3rd Round Pick - Tavares Gooden - LB - Miami
3rd Round Pick - Frank Okam - DT - Texas
5th Round Pick - Offensive Lineman
5th Round Pick - Cornerback
7th Round Pick - Offenisve Lineman

Broncos ensure themselves of having playmakers at every position on the field. Jay Cutler will have 2 recievers at 6'4 and a TE at 6'5. With the best slot in the game in Stokely. Chris Johnson reminds me alot of Clinton Portis with his blazing speed, he is the best compliment to Henry.

Along the defensive line the broncos add two MEN upfront. Justin Smith and Shaun Rogers will add to the beef and should benefit from our DT rotation. Overall we add playmakers and Cutler gets weapons to be the best that he can be. Sweed, Marshall and Sheffler should be damn near unstoppable in redzone situations.

Max Power
02-25-2008, 05:17 PM
Those trades packaging trade bait + a 4th to move into the 3rd are pointless considering those players you have us selecting there would be available in the 4th. But, at least we get rid of Walker and Gold in the deals. So that's a plus.

I hate the Limas Sweed pick, I'm staunchly anti-1st round wideout, but gun to my head I would probably pick DeSean Jackson because he brings the speed and the PR ability.

Don't need to waste money on Justin Smith.

Greg Wesley isn't the answer to the safety position.

All in all, I am not a fan of this mock and I would cry if our real draft (and offseason) resembles anything like it.

MilitantDBFan
02-25-2008, 05:21 PM
Those trades packaging trade bait + a 4th to move into the 3rd are pointless considering those players you have us selecting there would be available in the 4th. But, at least we get rid of Walker and Gold in the deals. So that's a plus.

I hate the Limas Sweed pick, I'm staunchly anti-1st round wideout, but gun to my head I would probably pick DeSean Jackson because he brings the speed and the PR ability.

Don't need to waste money on Justin Smith.

Greg Wesley isn't the answer to the safety position.

All in all, I am not a fan of this mock and I would cry if our real draft (and offseason) resembles anything like it.

Fair enough, but I dont think that we would need Jackson, unless we plan on him replacing Stokely in the slot. He wont be a reciever on the outside in the NFL. With Marshall and Sweed the Broncos have one of the largest sets of Wideouts in the league. And with Stokely in the slot they could be dangerous. I like Jackson, but we would have to find a TRUE number two if we went that route.

Max Power
02-25-2008, 05:27 PM
Fair enough, but I dont think that we would need Jackson, unless we plan on him replacing Stokely in the slot. He wont be a reciever on the outside in the NFL. With Marshall and Sweed the Broncos have one of the largest sets of Wideouts in the league. And with Stokely in the slot they could be dangerous. I like Jackson, but we would have to find a TRUE number two if we went that route.

Well, if you want a large wideout, why not James Hardy from Indiana? I like him more than Sweed personally.

beastlyskronk
02-25-2008, 05:34 PM
Trades/Free agency

- D. Foxworth and 12th Overall to Lions for Shaun Rogers and 15th Pick.
- Ian Gold and 4th Round Pick to Saints for 3rd Round Pick
- Javon Walker and 4th Round Pick to Dallas for 3rd Round Pick

-Sign DE Justin Smith from Bengals
-Sign OLB Boss Bailey from Lions
-Sign WR Kelly Washington from Patriots
-Sign S Greg Wesley from Chiefs

1st Round Pick - Limas Sweed - WR - Texas
2nd Round Pick - Chris Johnson - RB - E. Carolina
3rd Round Pick - Tavares Gooden - LB - Miami
3rd Round Pick - Frank Okam - DT - Texas
5th Round Pick - Offensive Lineman
5th Round Pick - Cornerback
7th Round Pick - Offenisve Lineman

Broncos ensure themselves of having playmakers at every position on the field. Jay Cutler will have 2 recievers at 6'4 and a TE at 6'5. With the best slot in the game in Stokely. Chris Johnson reminds me alot of Clinton Portis with his blazing speed, he is the best compliment to Henry.

Along the defensive line the broncos add two MEN upfront. Justin Smith and Shaun Rogers will add to the beef and should benefit from our DT rotation. Overall we add playmakers and Cutler gets weapons to be the best that he can be. Sweed, Marshall and Sheffler should be damn near unstoppable in redzone situations.

First off Clinton Portis and Chris Johnson are complete opposites. Justin Smith is not beef. He's only 260.

Instead of Limas Sweed I would take a player like Ryan Clady. Instead of Chris Johnson I would take Mario Manningham who had a terrible combine but when he gets on the field he is a big playmaker. He's faster than his 40 time suggests. Why not take a higher rated LB and DT in the 3rd instead of those 2 4th rounders? Everything past that is depth so I don't really care but maybe add a punter.

BroncoKazuki
02-25-2008, 05:35 PM
Tashard Choice reminds me more of Portis then Johnson.

Were not going WR in the 1st and at the 15th spot getting Sweed is a MAJOR reach

If anything I would trade into the 20's and get someone Like Conor or Otha in the 1st, then with added picks from going into the 20's (3rd and 4th) grab Choice and Nicks or Mayo for our RB and OT/LB needs. Then Draft Bennett who's a Blocking Play after Catch WR.

Then Fill the rest of the holes and Avoid taking a CB at all this draft,

Okam I would avoid, I would go after Carlton Powell DT from VT, or Nick Hayden DT from Wisconsin.

I just really hate how some people are starting to get a chubby for Johnson just because he ran a great 40 time.

BroncosTX77
02-25-2008, 05:39 PM
Brandon Marshall is a huge target. There is a need, a need for speed at the other wideout spot. Devin Thomas tore it up yesterday at the combine, im talking every aspect of the combine, workouts and drills, he was a beast. If he reaffirms the combine #'s at his pro day he is a bona fide mid 1st round pick.

Devin Thomas 6'2", 215lbs, Michigan State

NFL receiver build and long limbs. Gets his solid hands on the ball any way possible: reverses, bubble screens, returns. Quick in and out of breaks. Adjusts well to the ball in the air, usually snatching it with his hands. Quick acceleration after the catch, will rack up YAC. Runs solid routes, including slants inside -- and will hang onto the ball while taking the hit. Very willing blocker outside or in the slot on run plays, and he can eliminate the corner. Often lines up in the slot to take advantage of smaller nickel backs. Potential for a solid kick return option. Follows wedge, finds the lanes, gets to top speed quickly and does not go down on first contact.


Sounds like one helluva #2 compliment WR to Lil TO to me.

:rockon:

SBboundBRONCOS
02-25-2008, 06:10 PM
Brandon Marshall is a huge target. There is a need, a need for speed at the other wideout spot. Devin Thomas tore it up yesterday at the combine, im talking every aspect of the combine, workouts and drills, he was a beast. If he reaffirms the combine #'s at his pro day he is a bona fide mid 1st round pick.

Devin Thomas 6'2", 215lbs, Michigan State

NFL receiver build and long limbs. Gets his solid hands on the ball any way possible: reverses, bubble screens, returns. Quick in and out of breaks. Adjusts well to the ball in the air, usually snatching it with his hands. Quick acceleration after the catch, will rack up YAC. Runs solid routes, including slants inside -- and will hang onto the ball while taking the hit. Very willing blocker outside or in the slot on run plays, and he can eliminate the corner. Often lines up in the slot to take advantage of smaller nickel backs. Potential for a solid kick return option. Follows wedge, finds the lanes, gets to top speed quickly and does not go down on first contact.


Sounds like one helluva #2 compliment WR to Lil TO to me.

:rockon:

he may have worked his way into the 2nd maybe no chance of a mid first rounder on him

SBboundBRONCOS
02-25-2008, 06:14 PM
Trades/Free agency

- D. Foxworth and 12th Overall to Lions for Shaun Rogers and 15th Pick.
- Ian Gold and 4th Round Pick to Saints for 3rd Round Pick
- Javon Walker and 4th Round Pick to Dallas for 3rd Round Pick

-Sign DE Justin Smith from Bengals
-Sign OLB Boss Bailey from Lions
-Sign WR Kelly Washington from Patriots
-Sign S Greg Wesley from Chiefs

1st Round Pick - Limas Sweed - WR - Texas
2nd Round Pick - Chris Johnson - RB - E. Carolina
3rd Round Pick - Tavares Gooden - LB - Miami
3rd Round Pick - Frank Okam - DT - Texas
5th Round Pick - Offensive Lineman
5th Round Pick - Cornerback
7th Round Pick - Offenisve Lineman

Broncos ensure themselves of having playmakers at every position on the field. Jay Cutler will have 2 recievers at 6'4 and a TE at 6'5. With the best slot in the game in Stokely. Chris Johnson reminds me alot of Clinton Portis with his blazing speed, he is the best compliment to Henry.

Along the defensive line the broncos add two MEN upfront. Justin Smith and Shaun Rogers will add to the beef and should benefit from our DT rotation. Overall we add playmakers and Cutler gets weapons to be the best that he can be. Sweed, Marshall and Sheffler should be damn near unstoppable in redzone situations.

and as far as im concerned i would hate this offseason

you are basically valuing Rogers as 2 3rd round picks

sweed is not my favorite, much rather have kelly if we are going for a beastly duo. jackson i would be pissed at

chris johnson is a terrible pick other than his speed - and thats probably the only time you heard of him when he ran that huh. we dont need a one dimensional back we have enough of them

i like gooden and okam but seriously do not call this a 7 round mock draft when you only put positions in the last 3 picks:rolleyes:

BroncosTX77
02-25-2008, 06:17 PM
he may have worked his way into the 2nd maybe no chance of a mid first rounder on him


If a back up running back who rarely played in college and injury prone can raise his draft stock with 1 great 40 time from 5th rd to 2nd rounder, how is it a WR who blows all the drills away from 40 - broad jump - not dropping a pass in drills not go from 3rd round prospect to mid 1st round prospect? Especially after some WR's didnt participate/injured/flat out sucked that were ahead of him....

:confused:


:coffee:

SBboundBRONCOS
02-25-2008, 06:21 PM
If a back up running back who rarely played in college and injury prone can raise his draft stock with 1 great 40 time from 5th rd to 2nd rounder, how is it a WR who blows all the drills away from 40 - broad jump - not dropping a pass in drills not go from 3rd round prospect to mid 1st round prospect? Especially after some WR's didnt participate/injured/flat out sucked that were ahead of him....

:confused:


:coffee:

well imo its a lot easier to move from any round to the second but once you get there you better be damn impressive in both drills and tape and i dont think he was that

its a much harder boundary to cross

gyldenlove
02-25-2008, 07:16 PM
That is just not good at all.

Justin Smith is going to want a LOT of money and he is not worth it. Crowder is already as good as he is, Dumervil is a better pass rusher than he is and Moss can hopefully develop to a more complete player.

Why sign Greg Wesley? Nick Ferguson is no worse than he is, about the same age and brings about the same lack of speed.

Kelly Washington? why? We already have one of the best slot recievers in the league.

With the 15th, Limas Sweed is not great value, besides he pretty much the opposite of what we need. At 15, Chris Williams, Mendenhall, Stewart, Malcolm Kelly, Reggie Smith would all make more sense and be better value.

Chris Johnson is a bad pick, he has the track speed and that will attract a team looking for a fast player to play in a duo. Jamaal Charles would be better or even Felix Jones who seems to be dropping with his slow 40-time.

Gooden is the first really good pick, if we could get him in the 3rd that would be a steal, he is from a good linebacker school and has experience at every position.

Okam is a 4th rounder if he is anything, the man weighs about the same as a ford f-350 super duty and still thinks he can play 3-tech DT.

I don't agree with your valuation of Javon Walker versus Ian Gold, if they are both worth the difference between a 3rd and a 4th you are either valuing Gold too high or Walker too low.

Momentum
02-25-2008, 08:25 PM
Kelley Washington is the best gunner in the league IMO. We do have a need for kick coverage.

elevation INC
02-26-2008, 12:04 AM
Trades/Free agency

- D. Foxworth and 12th Overall to Lions for Shaun Rogers and 15th Pick.
- Ian Gold and 4th Round Pick to Saints for 3rd Round Pick
- Javon Walker and 4th Round Pick to Dallas for 3rd Round Pick

-Sign DE Justin Smith from Bengals
-Sign OLB Boss Bailey from Lions
-Sign WR Kelly Washington from Patriots
-Sign S Greg Wesley from Chiefs

1st Round Pick - Limas Sweed - WR - Texas
2nd Round Pick - Chris Johnson - RB - E. Carolina
3rd Round Pick - Tavares Gooden - LB - Miami
3rd Round Pick - Frank Okam - DT - Texas
5th Round Pick - Offensive Lineman
5th Round Pick - Cornerback
7th Round Pick - Offenisve Lineman

Broncos ensure themselves of having playmakers at every position on the field. Jay Cutler will have 2 recievers at 6'4 and a TE at 6'5. With the best slot in the game in Stokely. Chris Johnson reminds me alot of Clinton Portis with his blazing speed, he is the best compliment to Henry.

Along the defensive line the broncos add two MEN upfront. Justin Smith and Shaun Rogers will add to the beef and should benefit from our DT rotation. Overall we add playmakers and Cutler gets weapons to be the best that he can be. Sweed, Marshall and Sheffler should be damn near unstoppable in redzone situations.



okay i give you props for you thought since you are entitled to them, but i would cry if if went down like this.

I will leave your Fa alone but the draft..........


Limas Sweed, a huge reach at 15, if we reach it should be for someone like james hardy who already has impressed more than sweed. But why would you want a Wr in the 1st they demand number 1 wideout money and we have a number 1 in marshall the 3rd in 4th rds is where u can finda bona fide number 2 guys(which we need not number 1) not the first, all we would be doing is setting up another i want the ball situation.


Chris johnson- the guy has talent and is fast and if we got him in the second i wouldnt cry but what about LB, and DT we had problems there more than anywhere last year shouldnt we fix those spots. There are some great LB, and DT's in the second rd. Erin henderson, phillip wheeler! or Trevor laws and dre moore for DT. I actually feel that if we dont take stewart or mendehall in the 1st the only RB i would want would be tashard choice. perhaps we should wait on rb in the second and get some serious D needs fixed.



LB tavares gooden- again the guy has talent but there are far better LB's out there we should look at, lets get the best player available and not just pick some guy in the 3rd.


DT frank okam- we could really use this guy but he has slid to the 4th rd. He would be big for us, but if u look at the Sceme we are using he doesnt fit it at all, so it might not be a likely thing to get him.



Finally when you do a mock you should fill in all picks and take some time to study guys out there past rd 4 you might find better responses for the effort you put in......