broooks77
02-26-2008, 06:19 PM
if we don't get Shaun Rogers think we could get this guy?
Notes: Williams could net Packers second-round pick
By BOB McGINN
bmcginn@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Feb. 25, 2008
Indianapolis - If the Green Bay Packers decide to trade defensive tackle Corey Williams before the draft, they probably will be seeking a second-round selection.
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That was the opinion of three personnel directors for other National Football League teams attending the NFL scouting combine.
"I think they'll look for a second, and they may get it," an AFC director said. "But it may end up being a third plus something (late) the following year."
Last week, the Packers made Williams the third franchise player in their history. By doing so, they effectively eliminated any chance of losing him, because a signing team would owe Green Bay a pair of first-round draft choices.
"They had to franchise him," an NFC personnel director said. "Or it would have been a bidding war."
An executive for an NFC North Division team said the Detroit Lions, who reportedly are trying to trade defensive tackle Shaun Rogers, probably would have jumped on Williams if Rogers had been dealt and Williams had made it to the unrestricted free-agent signing period. The signing period opens at 11 p.m. Friday.
There's little doubt the Packers were aware of the Lions' interest in Williams and certainly didn't want him ending up in the NFC North. That probably was one of many factors in their decision to use the franchise tag. San Francisco also was thought to have serious interest.
The Packers have a logjam at defensive tackle with Ryan Pickett, Johnny Jolly, Justin Harrell, Colin Cole and Daniel Muir. There's little reason to keep Williams with the franchise tender of $6.363 million draining their salary cap unless Jolly's post-operative shoulder becomes a problem.
"It would be hard to get a first-round pick for him," another AFC director said. "I would think they could get a second. He's a guy that's just continued to get better in his career. He really showed some flashes this year of being an upper-echelon-type player."
One executive said Williams would have been looking at a contract with $16 million to $18 million in guaranteed money if he had been unrestricted.
In order to make a trade, the Packers would have to arrive at compensation with a team and then permit that club to sign Williams to a long-term deal. Last year, the Lions franchised defensive tackle Cory Redding and then signed him to a seven-year, $47.5 million deal ($16.6 million guaranteed) on July 16.
"The Packers want him, but they just don't want to pay him," an NFC director said. "People would say, 'I might give him big money, but I don't want to give up a pick and big money.' That's always the problem."
That executive said Williams was somewhat overrated and not worth more than a third-round choice.
Possible hire: The Packers have interviewed Curtis Fuller for their staff opening as defensive quality control coach.
Fuller, 29, worked in quality control last season for the Oakland Raiders. He played 10 games as a backup safety for the Packers in 2003 and '04. He also played for Seattle and Jacksonville.
Solid day: Defensive tackle Nick Hayden of Wisconsin solidified his status as a middle-round draft choice Monday with a good workout.
Hayden, 6 feet 4 inches and 291 pounds, ran the 40-yard dash in 5.08 seconds after bench-pressing 225 pounds a total of 34 times on Sunday. A year ago, he ran 5.14 at 299 and scored 16 on the Wonderlic intelligence test.
"He's not a potential guy," an AFC personnel director said after watching the workout. "What you see is what you get with him. D-line coaches love him. He can take on a double-team and shed. He plays with his eyes and understands run concepts. He has some initial quickness and can play both sides of the block. Very similar to Jason Fisk."
The executive predicted that Hayden would go in the fourth round. Last week, a scouting director for another AFC team guessed the fifth to seventh round.
"Brings his lunch pail to work," the scout said. "Tough guy. All about football. You know what you get."
Vast improvement: The Packers tied for seventh place in the Dallas Morning News' annual ranking of special-teams performance. The newspaper ranked units in 22 performance categories.
Green Bay, which finished 32nd each of the past two seasons, and Houston were the most improved teams. The Texans climbed from 29th to fourth.
Notes: Williams could net Packers second-round pick
By BOB McGINN
bmcginn@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Feb. 25, 2008
Indianapolis - If the Green Bay Packers decide to trade defensive tackle Corey Williams before the draft, they probably will be seeking a second-round selection.
Buy a link here
That was the opinion of three personnel directors for other National Football League teams attending the NFL scouting combine.
"I think they'll look for a second, and they may get it," an AFC director said. "But it may end up being a third plus something (late) the following year."
Last week, the Packers made Williams the third franchise player in their history. By doing so, they effectively eliminated any chance of losing him, because a signing team would owe Green Bay a pair of first-round draft choices.
"They had to franchise him," an NFC personnel director said. "Or it would have been a bidding war."
An executive for an NFC North Division team said the Detroit Lions, who reportedly are trying to trade defensive tackle Shaun Rogers, probably would have jumped on Williams if Rogers had been dealt and Williams had made it to the unrestricted free-agent signing period. The signing period opens at 11 p.m. Friday.
There's little doubt the Packers were aware of the Lions' interest in Williams and certainly didn't want him ending up in the NFC North. That probably was one of many factors in their decision to use the franchise tag. San Francisco also was thought to have serious interest.
The Packers have a logjam at defensive tackle with Ryan Pickett, Johnny Jolly, Justin Harrell, Colin Cole and Daniel Muir. There's little reason to keep Williams with the franchise tender of $6.363 million draining their salary cap unless Jolly's post-operative shoulder becomes a problem.
"It would be hard to get a first-round pick for him," another AFC director said. "I would think they could get a second. He's a guy that's just continued to get better in his career. He really showed some flashes this year of being an upper-echelon-type player."
One executive said Williams would have been looking at a contract with $16 million to $18 million in guaranteed money if he had been unrestricted.
In order to make a trade, the Packers would have to arrive at compensation with a team and then permit that club to sign Williams to a long-term deal. Last year, the Lions franchised defensive tackle Cory Redding and then signed him to a seven-year, $47.5 million deal ($16.6 million guaranteed) on July 16.
"The Packers want him, but they just don't want to pay him," an NFC director said. "People would say, 'I might give him big money, but I don't want to give up a pick and big money.' That's always the problem."
That executive said Williams was somewhat overrated and not worth more than a third-round choice.
Possible hire: The Packers have interviewed Curtis Fuller for their staff opening as defensive quality control coach.
Fuller, 29, worked in quality control last season for the Oakland Raiders. He played 10 games as a backup safety for the Packers in 2003 and '04. He also played for Seattle and Jacksonville.
Solid day: Defensive tackle Nick Hayden of Wisconsin solidified his status as a middle-round draft choice Monday with a good workout.
Hayden, 6 feet 4 inches and 291 pounds, ran the 40-yard dash in 5.08 seconds after bench-pressing 225 pounds a total of 34 times on Sunday. A year ago, he ran 5.14 at 299 and scored 16 on the Wonderlic intelligence test.
"He's not a potential guy," an AFC personnel director said after watching the workout. "What you see is what you get with him. D-line coaches love him. He can take on a double-team and shed. He plays with his eyes and understands run concepts. He has some initial quickness and can play both sides of the block. Very similar to Jason Fisk."
The executive predicted that Hayden would go in the fourth round. Last week, a scouting director for another AFC team guessed the fifth to seventh round.
"Brings his lunch pail to work," the scout said. "Tough guy. All about football. You know what you get."
Vast improvement: The Packers tied for seventh place in the Dallas Morning News' annual ranking of special-teams performance. The newspaper ranked units in 22 performance categories.
Green Bay, which finished 32nd each of the past two seasons, and Houston were the most improved teams. The Texans climbed from 29th to fourth.