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broncos1997
05-01-2008, 05:19 PM
i was wondering with the RBs in the first 2 rounds, who will be the best in the nfl? most people will probably say mcfadden, but i think he'll be a bust. so my vote goes to menenhall or stewart, stewarts wins the coin toss.

jhildebrand
05-01-2008, 05:24 PM
Felix Jones!

broncos1997
05-01-2008, 05:25 PM
Felix Jones!

oops forgot lol.

broncos1997
05-01-2008, 05:27 PM
ok forget about this can't believe i forgot jones. go to this thread: http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=115588

Atl. Donkey
05-02-2008, 12:08 PM
Good question, I was pulling for the Broncos to pick up Choice and believed he would have been a good fit. It is strange how the Cowgirls choose Jones and Choice.:confused: He might not get as much playin' time. I would have to say Rice at Pitt. Better line right away and seems to work hard.

GridironChamp
05-02-2008, 01:23 PM
Rashard Mendenhall will be the best overall back out of this RB class. McFadden might have better numbers for a few years, but down the road we will look back and go.... :laugh: the Raiders.

LordTrychon
05-02-2008, 01:27 PM
Rashard Mendenhall will be the best overall back out of this RB class. McFadden might have better numbers for a few years, but down the road we will look back and go.... :laugh: the Raiders.

Kinda what I was thinking. :laugh:


If he'd gone elsewhere, perhaps....


Anyway... Poll fixed. :salute:

Schism
05-02-2008, 01:31 PM
I can't believe the Cowboys took Jones over Mendenhall, it boggles the mind quite frankly.

I know that Jones gives more of a home-run threat in the short term, which is what they want to compliment Barber. But it's horribly short-sighted drafting IMO, they passed on a guy who could one day be one of the best backs in the league in order to bring in a change of pace back.

broncos1997
05-02-2008, 03:28 PM
I can't believe the Cowboys took Jones over Mendenhall, it boggles the mind quite frankly.

I know that Jones gives more of a home-run threat in the short term, which is what they want to compliment Barber. But it's horribly short-sighted drafting IMO, they passed on a guy who could one day be one of the best backs in the league in order to bring in a change of pace back.

thats exactly what i was thinking, jones is gonna be a bust just like mcfadden

(just so you know i don't have anything against arkansas)

jcdavey
05-02-2008, 03:56 PM
mcfadden by far

Cutler2007
05-02-2008, 04:13 PM
I can't believe the Cowboys took Jones over Mendenhall, it boggles the mind quite frankly.

I know that Jones gives more of a home-run threat in the short term, which is what they want to compliment Barber. But it's horribly short-sighted drafting IMO, they passed on a guy who could one day be one of the best backs in the league in order to bring in a change of pace back.


I think they had thoroughly scouted Jones and knew every last detail there was to know about him, they probably never expected Mendenhall to be an option and didn't know much about him. So they went with what they knew instead of what they didn't.

nas1
05-02-2008, 08:16 PM
Mendenhall by far, good vision, good feet and not afraid of contact. Mendenhall reminds me of T. D. McFadden is like Robert Smith. Stewert= Tatum bell just bigger. Jones=Julius Jones.

broncos1997
05-02-2008, 08:37 PM
Mendenhall by far, good vision, good feet and not afraid of contact. Mendenhall reminds me of T. D. McFadden is like Robert Smith. Stewert= Tatum bell just bigger. Jones=Julius Jones.

i agree with the TD and jones comparison, but stewert as tatum bell? i don't think you can go any more different. where tatum bell is a fast back with no moves or power, stewart is fast but very very powerful and can catch, just saying he's a bigger tatum bell doesn't change much. i think MCFADDEN is more like tatum bell.

nas1
05-02-2008, 09:33 PM
i agree with the TD and jones comparison, but stewert as tatum bell? i don't think you can go any more different. where tatum bell is a fast back with no moves or power, stewart is fast but very very powerful and can catch, just saying he's a bigger tatum bell doesn't change much. i think MCFADDEN is more like tatum bell.
Stewart-
I've never truly seen him finish a run. Mcfadden's rush avg. will be high because of 3rd & 15 and he runs for 12 just like Robert Smith.

broncos1997
05-02-2008, 09:39 PM
Stewart-
I've never truly seen him finish a run. Mcfadden's rush avg. will be high because of 3rd & 15 and he runs for 12 just like Robert Smith.

i disagree, i think stewart has finished ALOT of runs. mcfadden, on the other hand, has no power, not very good moves, and the only thing that has made him great in college is his speed. in the nfl, especially playing for the raiders, he will have to break arm tackles, hit the hole with force, and run with patience and vision. he just can't do that.

BroncoKazuki
05-02-2008, 10:33 PM
This is where the Broncos Fan Base will be kicking themselves in the arse when Mendenhall and Stewart emerge from this rookie class as legit rush threats.


Broncos had both in their grasp, chose the safe route and the teams that took the risk will benefit from the rewards of the risk they took while the Broncos will still be scratching their heads because none of their backs can produce the way these two backs will be doing.



I can hear it already during the 2008 season when things start turning south for our Offense. "Damn how come we didnt draft (mendenhall/Stewart) when we were at the 12th :(. It would have helped our run game far better then what we have right now."

kratos_godofwar
05-04-2008, 01:33 PM
This is where the Broncos Fan Base will be kicking themselves in the arse when Mendenhall and Stewart emerge from this rookie class as legit rush threats.


Broncos had both in their grasp, chose the safe route and the teams that took the risk will benefit from the rewards of the risk they took while the Broncos will still be scratching their heads because none of their backs can produce the way these two backs will be doing.



I can hear it already during the 2008 season when things start turning south for our Offense. "Damn how come we didnt draft (mendenhall/Stewart) when we were at the 12th :(. It would have helped our run game far better then what we have right now."
While I agree that having a Mendenhall or Stewart would have done wonders for this team. But the truth is, that Shanahan had to take the safe route if he wanted to stay here a few more years. The problem was not trading into the 3rd or selecting a healthier back in the 4th. But if Torain is 100% by years end, he'll show why he could have been a 1st round back. But I still think we should take a RB early in next year's draft.

broncos SB2010
05-04-2008, 02:03 PM
While I agree that having a Mendenhall or Stewart would have done wonders for this team. But the truth is, that Shanahan had to take the safe route if he wanted to stay here a few more years. The problem was not trading into the 3rd or selecting a healthier back in the 4th. But if Torain is 100% by years end, he'll show why he could have been a 1st round back. But I still think we should take a RB early in next year's draft.

This is why the broncos didn't draft a back this year. There are always excellent RB to pick from each and every year. Yes some years are better than others but generally there always many to choose from. Denver hasn't exactly been weak in picking backs in the recent history. Fix the line first and run with decent but not great backs. Once the line is fixed pick up a great back and watch us run!

1sconorbrevned
05-04-2008, 02:42 PM
This is why the broncos didn't draft a back this year. There are always excellent RB to pick from each and every year. Yes some years are better than others but generally there always many to choose from. Denver hasn't exactly been weak in picking backs in the recent history. Fix the line first and run with decent but not great backs. Once the line is fixed pick up a great back and watch us run!



We got a winner! I agree with all of that :salute:

but for the poll i chose mendenhall

Guitarman618
05-04-2008, 04:37 PM
:[ You forgot Ryan Torain..... Sad day...

ItalianBronco
05-04-2008, 05:32 PM
Kevin Smith great move the Lions made to draft up to get him... They will run the football alot this year...so he'll probley get most of the yards.

broncos1997
05-04-2008, 06:10 PM
This is why the broncos didn't draft a back this year. There are always excellent RB to pick from each and every year. Yes some years are better than others but generally there always many to choose from. Denver hasn't exactly been weak in picking backs in the recent history. Fix the line first and run with decent but not great backs. Once the line is fixed pick up a great back and watch us run!

yep agree completely. we are working on the new generation of linemen now, we've had lepsis, hamblinton, nalen, carlise, etc together for what like 12 years now? we are moving on to the clady, harris, kuper, german dude era. they will probably not all work out, but you get my point. i want to try and get a good, reliable back next year....maybe we'll have our first franchise back since TD. can't wait

by the way, does anyone know any good RB prospects for next year? i know kinda early but still....

x_ts
05-04-2008, 06:36 PM
the best back in terms of yards/TDs will be either kevin smith, or some other guy that comes out of nowhere.

I'm not sold on Stewart, and all the rest of the good backs will be sharing carries (Mendenhall, Jones). Stewart will turn out to be a decent back. D-Mac is a bust.

kratos_godofwar
05-05-2008, 07:17 AM
This is why the broncos didn't draft a back this year. There are always excellent RB to pick from each and every year. Yes some years are better than others but generally there always many to choose from. Denver hasn't exactly been weak in picking backs in the recent history. Fix the line first and run with decent but not great backs. Once the line is fixed pick up a great back and watch us run!

I disagree with this wholeheartedly. That's the homerist point of view. Next year's RB class isn't even close to this year's. There were 3 RB's who were made to play in our system. Kevin Smith, Rashad Mendenhall, and Ray Rice would have been 1500+ yard backs here in Denver. Denver has been able to get scrubs to perform well, but a franchise RB is hardly ever found in late rounds.

There are great backs every year, but most ever hardly pan out in the NFL. But the fact that any RB can perform in our system means a back like Mendenhall or Rice would have been great. We missed our chance of not having to waste a 1st round pick for a franchise back. We could have gotten Rice, Smith, or Charles in the 2nd or 3rd but Shanahan choose not to act. Our run game won't be hurt, but us not having a RB that makes plays every down will not help Cutler at all.

elevation INC
05-05-2008, 07:23 AM
look for matt forte, jalen parmele to rip it up next year:D

broncos1997
05-05-2008, 09:02 AM
I disagree with this wholeheartedly. That's the homerist point of view. Next year's RB class isn't even close to this year's. There were 3 RB's who were made to play in our system. Kevin Smith, Rashad Mendenhall, and Ray Rice would have been 1500+ yard backs here in Denver. Denver has been able to get scrubs to perform well, but a franchise RB is hardly ever found in late rounds.

There are great backs every year, but most ever hardly pan out in the NFL. But the fact that any RB can perform in our system means a back like Mendenhall or Rice would have been great. We missed our chance of not having to waste a 1st round pick for a franchise back. We could have gotten Rice, Smith, or Charles in the 2nd or 3rd but Shanahan choose not to act. Our run game won't be hurt, but us not having a RB that makes plays every down will not help Cutler at all.

ya never know, torain might pay off seeing that if hes healthy, hes also one of the backs that can run in our system. but i repear, is there any good backs for next year's draft?

kratos_godofwar
05-05-2008, 10:09 AM
ya never know, torain might pay off seeing that if hes healthy, hes also one of the backs that can run in our system. but i repear, is there any good backs for next year's draft?

There's a few, but they are most likely top 10 picks as of right now. CJ Spiller, James Davis, and Chris "Beanie" Wells. But they aren't built for our system besides Wells. But if he has a season like last year, top 5 pick for sure. CJ and James are only ideal if Torain pans out as a power back. They could complement him very well, but I'm optimistic about him panning out. Hopefully Torain does pan out, but until the regular season starts. I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Flatlander Fan
05-05-2008, 10:37 AM
This is an interesting question, and one that there will be much speculation about, I am sure. However, "success" can be defined a number of ways, which makes answering the question difficult.

Which RB will run for the most yards & therefore be the most successful?
Which RB will always be a role player, but win the most Super Bowls & therefore be the most successful?
Which RB will play for the most seasons & therefore be the most successful?
Which RB will have a short, but brilliant career & therefore be the most successful?

I'm not sure about the answer to any of those (or other definitions of success) at this point. Was TD more "successful" than Barry Sanders or Walter Payton, arguably the two best runners in NFL history? (oops, didn't mean to overlook Jim Brown)

SBboundBRONCOS
05-05-2008, 10:50 AM
There's a few, but they are most likely top 10 picks as of right now. CJ Spiller, James Davis, and Chris "Beanie" Wells. But they aren't built for our system besides Wells. But if he has a season like last year, top 5 pick for sure. CJ and James are only ideal if Torain pans out as a power back. They could complement him very well, but I'm optimistic about him panning out. Hopefully Torain does pan out, but until the regular season starts. I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

there are a lot of talented RBs next year you forgot moreno from geogia he is also a high first rounder

and i will bet that not all these backs are taken top 15 with all the teams needs and all the other supposed to be great players next year. next year should be a great draft

BTW im the conductor of the Beanie Wells Train if anyone cares to jump on

Flatlander Fan
05-05-2008, 10:55 AM
there are a lot of talented RBs next year you forgot moreno from geogia he is also a high first rounder

and i will bet that not all these backs are taken top 15 with all the teams needs and all the other supposed to be great players next year. next year should be a great draft

BTW im the conductor of the Beanie Wells Train if anyone cares to jump on

I think that train runs through this part of IL, too. Beanie can tear it up!

SBboundBRONCOS
05-05-2008, 10:58 AM
I think that train runs through this part of IL, too. Beanie can tear it up!

lol yeah he is crazy . . . . every time i watch him in a game he is busting peoples heads and then the next run he'll bust it like 70 yards.

hes like J Stewart and i was huge on him this year

but anyways welcome aboard :salute:

kratos_godofwar
05-05-2008, 11:11 AM
there are a lot of talented RBs next year you forgot moreno from geogia he is also a high first rounder

and i will bet that not all these backs are taken top 15 with all the teams needs and all the other supposed to be great players next year. next year should be a great draft

BTW im the conductor of the Beanie Wells Train if anyone cares to jump on

Yeah, but thing about Moreno. I don't think he'll declare for the draft next season. If he and Stafford don't win a Championship next season, they both still have a chance the following season.

I like Beanie Wells, but I'm not hoping on that train yet. He has a little bit of Cedric Benson written on him. I'm just not entirely sold on him yet.

Flatlander Fan
05-05-2008, 11:14 AM
I like Beanie Wells, but I'm not hoping on that train yet. He has a little bit of Cedric Benson written on him. I'm just not entirely sold on him yet.

From a motivation standpoint, you mean?

kratos_godofwar
05-05-2008, 12:09 PM
From a motivation standpoint, you mean?

yes. he just doesn't seem like a player who would dedicate themselves to football. But I don't know, he could be but just doesn't show it.

Also, I consider next year's RB class very weak if most of the juniors don't declare for the draft. Besides, next year's draft is going to be defense heavy in LB, DL and Saftey, weither or not the Juniors declare or not. All postions of needs for the Broncos both this year and next regardless of how well the players on our team play.