How about mlb trade?

[#1atwaterfan]

we need desperate help at mlb and strong-side lb.if there not going to play woodyard and i would they should at least look to trade.and if there arent any mlb avalible then move dj back to mlb then work with what we got to fill in the other two spots.what you guys think?

[CTM]

No, the best solution is to draft one.

The position of MLB this year is absolutely stacked with prospects. Who would you even want to trade for? I dont see many teams shopping their MLB for a trade.

And DJ will stay on the outside. He was good in the middle but he makes more of an impact on the outside.

I say Lets play out the year with Webster, if things get real bad we see if Niko or Larsen is up for it but at any rate then we draft either Maulegala (sp?) or Laurenitas in the first.

[getlynched47]

we need desperate help at mlb and strong-side lb.if there not going to play woodyard and i would they should at least look to trade.and if there arent any mlb avalible then move dj back to mlb then work with what we got to fill in the other two spots.what you guys think?

I regret coming to this thread immediately...:coffee:

There is no problem with Strong Side Linebacker why the heck would we move DJ back to MLB?? He's not a good fit there...we'd just be wasting his athletic ability if we move him back...we need a guy who isn't afraid to stick his nose in and run full speed ahead upfield

[MindField]

I would rather see the Broncos let Webster walk in free agency, and just move Winbor to MLB as a replacement. I can't understand why he has not gotten a look there, because he has looked very good out of position on the strong-side.

If the Broncos can get a young MLB, ala Al Wilson, late in the first that is a good player to draft, fine, I would not argue with that. But these guys people are menitioning, like Spikes and Ellerbee don't look like great players to me.

The Broncos have multiple needs, and I would rather see them address DE, because ours are suspect to say the least. I think Winborn would do very well in a move back to the middle, and he has a few years left.

[Silent-Assassin]

I say trade our first and second round picks for Patrick Willis:rockon:

But get him a neck brace I.E. Wilson, Mobley:sad::sad:

[jojo187]

There is nothing wrong with the MLB that a trade will fix. Our defense is decent, why did everyone expect Denver to shut SD down? :confused:

THERE IS NO PROBLEM ON DEFENSE, the chargers offense is very good.

[Senses Fail]

There is nothing wrong with the MLB that a trade will fix. Our defense is decent, why did everyone expect Denver to shut SD down? :confused:

THERE IS NO PROBLEM ON DEFENSE, the chargers offense is very good.


Where have you been. :confused:

Our defense played horrible against the dolts. blow a 31-17 lead. No pass rush, blitzes are predictable. Cant get off the field on third down.

He is right we need a mlb that is a hit you in the face type of guy. Webster is a lose his helmet type of guy.

[jojo187]

Where have you been. :confused:

Our defense played horrible against the dolts. blow a 31-17 lead. No pass rush, blitzes are predictable. Cant get off the field on third down.

He is right we need a mlb that is a hit you in the face type of guy. Webster is a lose his helmet type of guy.

I agree we need a MLB but we should draft one. We do not need one bad enough to trade for one.

judging a defenses performance off of one game is crazy, the defense was not great but clearly good enough to win. Also picking up another MLB will not change the defense much at this point.

[mx_stiles13]

If we had gotten Vilma for the value the Saints did, our defense would be set.

Maybe more than one DE who can pass rush?

[Senses Fail]

I agree we need a MLB but we should draft one. We do not need one bad enough to trade for one.

judging a defenses performance off of one game is crazy, the defense was not great but clearly good enough to win. Also picking up another MLB will not change the defense much at this point.


Unless we make some changes, I feel the defense is not good enough to win championships, thats what matters. It will make a difference when we do get a elite MLB, just look what happened to our defense when Al Wilson left.

[muse]

If we had gotten Vilma for the value the Saints did, our defense would be set.

Maybe more than one DE who can pass rush?

That's what I thought. I wouldn't say we'd be set exactly, but we'd have a monstrous LB corps, especially with DJ and Vilma playing side-by-side again. Didn't NO get him for a fourth? I suppose that means that we wouldn't have either JMFW/Lichtensteiger right now.

[Cutler2007]

I guess I am the only one that would still like to see what Larsen can do at MLB.

Channing Crowder also may not be a bad FA option. I would get Larsen some starts and if we are happy with him, bring in a guy like Crowder to compete and let the best man win. I think it would be two guys competing with a lot of talent (unlike Webster and Niko).

[#1atwaterfan]

I regret coming to this thread immediately...:coffee:

There is no problem with Strong Side Linebacker why the heck would we move DJ back to MLB?? He's not a good fit there...we'd just be wasting his athletic ability if we move him back...we need a guy who isn't afraid to stick his nose in and run full speed ahead upfield

why put dj back.because hes the best lb on the team right now,who just happen to get 140 tackles last season his 1st yr playing mlb,webster looked confused and was out of place several times.and we have a good outside prospect in woodyard other than that our lb core is W.E.A.K weak.

[MindField]

I guess I am the only one that would still like to see what Larsen can do at MLB.

Channing Crowder also may not be a bad FA option. I would get Larsen some starts and if we are happy with him, bring in a guy like Crowder to compete and let the best man win. I think it would be two guys competing with a lot of talent (unlike Webster and Niko).

I think Larsen is basically the same guy as Niko. I think Niko will be released in the offseason, especially if he is due a significant roster bonus. Larsen will be givien a chance to be the backup MLB, and maybe he can develop into more than that.

I want Jamie Winborn in that spot next year.

[berlownacyo7s]

eww. no. We need to draft one. I think Boss will be fina at Sam LB and DJ is awesome at Will LB. If we could land Maualuga, laurinaitis, or Spikes in the 1st round I would be very happy.

[muse]

I want us to draft the one closest to Al Wilson...intelligent and fast.

[djwinter]

Webster has played alright in the first 2 games. The problem is that we need our defensive line to hold the opponent's offensive line off our linebackers. Our linebackers are small, they always have been, and probably always will be under Shanahan who thinks speed is king. Not knocking it, just have to realize that when you have small linebackers, they can't fight off a 300 pound lineman. Robertson and the rest of the DTs need to step up!

As far as Willis, don't think that the 49ers would let their best player go for anything right now because he is one of the reasons why they still have fans in the seats. Vilma, on the other hand, probably could have been had. Oh well, too late now.

[jojo187]

Unless we make some changes, I feel the defense is not good enough to win championships, thats what matters. It will make a difference when we do get a elite MLB, just look what happened to our defense when Al Wilson left.

What you feel has no barring on anything its been two games, in two more games you could FEEL completely different.

How would this trade to get an "elite MLB" go down..... I didnt know the bears were shopping Brian Urlacher (spelling). Getting an elite MLB in a trade is a pipe dream, the only way to realistically get on is IN THE DRAFT. Which by the way is STACKED with talent at MLB.

The bottom line is that a trade for a MLB in most cases is a stupid move. Wait for the draft then we get one.

[muffcon350]

We are perfectly fine at SLB. Boss was brought in because of his coverage skills. Typically the SLB has to cover the TE, and since we face the best two recieving TE's in the league twice a year, he is perfect for the job and I thought did one hell of a job against Gates by only allowing him 60 yards and no scores.

I somewhat agree with other comments about how DE is a more pressing need since we probably won't have a chance to get Laurinitis or Big Rey. However I disagree as to the typ of DE. Most people are suggesting a pass rushing type of DE. I would like to see us get much better against the run, so that we can allow our safeties to help out in passing coverage so that Champ and Bly can take the gambles to get picks. One way to stop the run is to get bigger and stronger guys up front. That would mean drafting a very big and very strong DE. IMHO, that person would be Tyson Jackson from LSU. I got to watch him in person when my UK Wildcats beat the Tigers in tripple overtime. Dorsey was great in that game, but Jackson just looked like he was a grown man playing a bunch of middle schoolers. He was man-handling everyone we sent at him. Again, he isn't that outstanding at getting to the QB, but I think he would HELP solve our inability to stop the run. He is a huge step up from E60, EE, and Crowder in my opinion.

The problem with Jackson is he current value. Since he isn't a pass rushing DE, most teams won't take him that high. That means if we want him, we either would have to take him way too early, which I don't want, or we could trade up in the second to try and land him, which I would really like, or we could trade down or even out of the first and acquire a high second round pick and take him there, which doesn't make much since either since there are so many defensive playmakers that will go in the first round.

So, after all of that, I think we should definitely pickup a MLB through the draft. The only ones I feel worthy of a first round pick as of now, are Rey and James. Since they won't be there, I would like us to look at one of the top tier safeties that will probably be there. I really like Myron Rolle the most as he is very very smart and also seems to have good character, but most importantly because he hit hard and makes plays on the ball. After him I like Taylor Mays pretty much for the same reasons, however I don't think he will be as good in coverage as Rolle. I don't really know much about old Bill Moore from the Mizz, other than he is rated pretty high but I will hold my judgement until I see him play.

I think since we won't have much shot at James or Rey, we should target Scott McKillop or Jasper Brinkley. Both are great against the run and both will probably go late second to early third round.

Anyone know much about Bill Moore? Anyone that's actually seen him play in a game? Not necessarilly in person, just actually watched him in a game.

[muse]

I would like to see us get much better against the run, so that we can allow our safeties to help out in passing coverage so that Champ and Bly can take the gambles to get picks. One way to stop the run is to get bigger and stronger guys up front. That would mean drafting a very big and very strong DE.

Agreed totally - a guy like Pryce, around 280-300 with speed to get to the QB but with the stoutness against the run. I only realise now how rare guys like Pryce are, especially as they're snapped up by 3-4 teams so quickly.

I thought Courtney Brown could be that guy, shame his knees didn't last. Crowder's more in Ekuban's mould - a decent all rounder but without that dominating size. Having a rotation of our current young guys and a monster DE would really sort us out nicely.

[muffcon350]

Agreed totally - a guy like Pryce, around 280-300 with speed to get to the QB but with the stoutness against the run. I only realise now how rare guys like Pryce are, especially as they're snapped up by 3-4 teams so quickly.

I thought Courtney Brown could be that guy, shame his knees didn't last. Crowder's more in Ekuban's mould - a decent all rounder but without that dominating size. Having a rotation of our current young guys and a monster DE would really sort us out nicely.

Pryce is who I always think of. I loved seeing him and Reggie Hayward bookending that D Line. I was very pissed when we traded both of them.

Thats why I like Tyson Jackson. I think back to how well our D Line performed when Pryce was here. I think Jackson could definitely be that guy: That solid Left End who you never really have to take out of the game, unless you have two fast edge rushers that you want to send at a QB. I think we already have one in Dumervil, and I am really hoping Moss develops into the other by the end of this season.

[Senses Fail]

What you feel has no barring on anything its been two games, in two more games you could FEEL completely different.

How would this trade to get an "elite MLB" go down..... I didnt know the bears were shopping Brian Urlacher (spelling). Getting an elite MLB in a trade is a pipe dream, the only way to realistically get on is IN THE DRAFT. Which by the way is STACKED with talent at MLB.

The bottom line is that a trade for a MLB in most cases is a stupid move. Wait for the draft then we get one.

I never said to trade for an elite mlb, I just said we need one. :coffee:

but I agree with you about picking up one in the draft next year in the 1st or 2nd round.