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RaiderHater9899
12-10-2008, 02:58 PM
This man's ability to forgive is unbelievable. :salute!:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28156838/?GT1=43001
SAN DIEGO - A Korean immigrant whose wife, two young daughters and mother-in-law perished when a military jet crashed into his house says he doesn't blame the pilot who safely ejected.

The Marine Corps fighter plane was returning from an offshore training mission Monday when it clipped a tree and slammed into homes about two miles from its base. Two homes were incinerated, and three others were damaged. Three generations of a Korean family died in one home.

The family's pastor, the Rev. Kevin Lee of the Korean United Methodist Church in San Diego, identified three of them as Young Mi Yoon, 36; her 2-month-old daughter, Rachel; and her mother, Suk Im Kim, 60, who was visiting from South Korea to help care for her daughter's newborn.

The body of 15-month-old Grace Yoon, Rachel's sister, was found in the home Tuesday, Fire Department spokesman Maurice Luque said. No one else remained missing.

The San Diego County medical examiner's office has not officially released the names of the victims.

No hard feelings
Young Mi Yoon's husband defended the pilot Tuesday.

"I don't have any hard feelings," Dong Yun Yoon, 37, told reporters near the rubble where his home once stood. "I know he did everything he could."

"Please pray for him not to suffer from this accident," Dong Yun Yoon said. "I know he is one of our treasured for the country."

Dong Yun Yoon, who left Korea in 1989 and became a U.S. citizen, wondered aloud how he would persevere after losing his family.

"Please tell me how to do it," he said, surrounded by his pastor, sister, brother and church members. "I don't know what to do."

Meanwhile, a high-ranking congressman called on the Marine Corps on Tuesday to release the maintenance records of all fighter jets of the type that lost power and crashed into the San Diego neighborhood.
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The article goes into a long explanation about how the Naval Base is going to be monitoring and checking all planes. Its just so sad it happened too late.

Missin#7
12-10-2008, 03:32 PM
That is so incredibly sad!
We were stationed at Miramar, I am very familar with that neighborhood.

http://media.signonsandiego.com/img/photos/2008/12/09/7bb23391-53bc-40d2-afeb-90c73dfbf065news.ap.org_t350.jpg?1640fae913a1dac1b 26c7eb88806b9f9b0341305

slostenracing
12-10-2008, 04:09 PM
Terrible tradgedy but you couldn't be mad and are almost asking for an accident to happen living that close to something like that. It's like a car crash, you don't expect it to happen but each time you drive or ride somewhere it could. Living next to an air base or airport just increases the odds of being involved in a plane crash.

Good to see the guy understands the risk he took by having his family that close to an airbase.

Sad to see so many lives lost.

2 Minute Warning
12-10-2008, 04:18 PM
Very tragic indeed.:ugh:

Missin#7
12-10-2008, 04:38 PM
Terrible tradgedy but you couldn't be mad and are almost asking for an accident to happen living that close to something like that. It's like a car crash, you don't expect it to happen but each time you drive or ride somewhere it could. Living next to an air base or airport just increases the odds of being involved in a plane crash.

Good to see the guy understands the risk he took by having his family that close to an airbase.

Sad to see so many lives lost.

This is pretty insensitive.
You know why we had to live that close, because my husband was busy serving this country! And defending YOUR freedom!

ebsoria
12-10-2008, 04:40 PM
It's very sad what happened down there indeed. But what I can't get over is this man's ability to forgive like he has. He is a big man to realize the risk and to realize it's not the pilot targeting his family. I wonder how many born American's would feel that way? I, personally, don't think I'd be able to feel the way he does. I'd like to think I would... but I dunno. My best wishes to him in this time of loss and suffering. It sounds like he does have a support network, so hopefully he's able to get some sort of recovery and not spiral into dancing with those personal demons. I just can't fathom what he's feeling right now. It tears at my heart and I'm not personally affected. Tell ya what though.... makes me want to get home and hug my kid's right this minute!!!!

slostenracing
12-10-2008, 05:09 PM
This is pretty insensitive.
You know why we had to live that close, because my husband was busy serving this country! And defending YOUR freedom!

And I repeat, anyone putting their family in that situation is taking the same risk as someone taking their family out for a ride to Wal-Mart. No one says you have to live on/near the base with him, plenty of families stay at home while their loved ones serve, you or him made the choice to live there just as this family did for whatever reason.

My point was the man took responsibility in realizing the risk involved in living so close and THAT'S why he was able to forgive the guy.

Way to completely misconstrue what I said and make it sound like I was bashing our armed serviceman. :rolleyes:

Missin#7
12-10-2008, 10:06 PM
And I repeat, anyone putting their family in that situation is taking the same risk as someone taking their family out for a ride to Wal-Mart. No one says you have to live on/near the base with him, plenty of families stay at home while their loved ones serve, you or him made the choice to live there just as this family did for whatever reason.

My point was the man took responsibility in realizing the risk involved in living so close and THAT'S why he was able to forgive the guy.

Way to completely misconstrue what I said and make it sound like I was bashing our armed serviceman. :rolleyes:

This coming from a 20 yr old kid, that doesn't have kids & not married. When your spouse chooses to serve the country & they get stationed where ever the Navy says, you pick up & go with & support. Because you want to be there with them every day.

This family never moved in with the thought of a plane crashing into their home. The same could be said for many many families arcoss the country arcoss the country. There are thousands of airports/milatary stations out there. People live where they can afford. You have alot to learn.

CoryWinget81
12-10-2008, 10:31 PM
This coming from a 20 yr old kid, that doesn't have kids & not married. When your spouse chooses to serve the country & they get stationed where ever the Navy says, you pick up & go with & support. Because you want to be there with them every day.

This family never moved in with the thought of a plane crashing into their home. The same could be said for many many families arcoss the country arcoss the country. There are thousands of airports/milatary stations out there. People live where they can afford. You have alot to learn.

Dude, calm down. The guy explained himself. Just because he doesn't have kids or a wife, and isnt in the military doesnt make him a second class citizen and he is entitled to his opinion.

Chill out.

cadencesdad
12-10-2008, 10:39 PM
And I repeat, anyone putting their family in that situation is taking the same risk as someone taking their family out for a ride to Wal-Mart. No one says you have to live on/near the base with him, plenty of families stay at home while their loved ones serve, you or him made the choice to live there just as this family did for whatever reason.

My point was the man took responsibility in realizing the risk involved in living so close and THAT'S why he was able to forgive the guy.

Way to completely misconstrue what I said and make it sound like I was bashing our armed serviceman. :rolleyes:

Well, to be fair, there is no place on Earth 100% completely safe. It almost sounds like your saying the guy should take some responsibility for his familys death because he chose to live there.

I'm sure it was a misunderstanding, but the way it was worded could be taken a couple different ways.

Living near an American military air base could also be considered one of the safest palces to raise a family. Just my 2 cents.:salute!:

My heartfelt condolences go out to that guy and his family. I cannot imagine, and hope I never can, the pain he must be feeling. My prayers are with him.

slostenracing
12-11-2008, 12:06 AM
This coming from a 20 yr old kid, that doesn't have kids & not married. When your spouse chooses to serve the country & they get stationed where ever the Navy says, you pick up & go with & support. Because you want to be there with them every day.

This family never moved in with the thought of a plane crashing into their home. The same could be said for many many families arcoss the country arcoss the country. There are thousands of airports/milatary stations out there. People live where they can afford. You have alot to learn.

23, it even says so in my profile, which you OBVIOUSLY looked at. Nor have I EVER said whether I was married or if I had kids so jumping to conclusions get's you nowhere.

My cousin is a marine wife, they got married two years ago and she has remained in town the whole time he's been stationed in California. As I stated before it's not in his contract that you had to move out there, that was your choice.

And again, never once did I say he did move in calculating chances of a plane crashing into his house, just that when it happened he accepted the risk he took living there and forgave those involved.

Oh and apparently you are gonna jump to conclusion about this man and his family who you know EVEN LESS about then me too. Where did you get your information that this was the only place he could afford? How do you know he didn't move there for proximity to work or to be closer to family? Maybe he and his wife looked at ten house and that was just the one they liked best.

You have no idea about me or this man so please keep your assumptions and accusations out of a thread where everyone is giving their opinion and condolences, I've given my condolences and explained myself (even though I didn't have to justify my response to this thread to you) TWICE now and I won't be doing it again.

Please keep the personal attacks to yourself, next time you'll just be reported cause I am not getting in trouble for responding to you again.

Peanut
12-11-2008, 08:33 AM
Prayers to Dong Yun Yoon and family.

Dong Yun Yoon, who left Korea in 1989 and became a U.S. citizen, wondered aloud how he would persevere after losing his family.

"Please tell me how to do it," he said, surrounded by his pastor, sister, brother and church members. "I don't know what to do."

That just broke my heart.


My Dad was AF. We moved around with him, because we were a family. Same when I got married to an AF guy and had kids. Never thought about any danger --- except in Germany when I was pregnant with my second. I was told that I would be given a kit so that I could deliver the baby by myself, if we were to be evacuated.--- Why get married to a military person? Better to marry the local banker.

Is that why your cousin didn't move with her husband, slostenracing? Because of the danger? Just wondering. I was amazed at how many women I met that complained about having to move when they married someone in the military. :confused:

Legendary30
12-11-2008, 10:15 AM
This is really sad.

slostenracing,
Thats like saying you live by a street so you if your kid gets hit by a car, its because you put your family at risk. :rolleyes: This is a freak accident. Nobody knows this guys mind set. The average person doesn't lose a wife and kids to a jet crash, so to say "He knew the risks, thats why he was able to forgive" is kinda crazy to say.

Nothing personal against you, but thats how I see it.

Overtime
12-11-2008, 11:05 AM
that's a shame it had to hit that family's house and kill those people...my prayers go out to the survivors of this unfortunate accident.

on the other hand, the pilot should be reprimanded for not aiming for the San Diego Chargers Football Stadium. nobody would have cared the less if that dump got obliterated. :D

Legendary30
12-11-2008, 11:05 AM
that's a shame it had to hit that family's house and kill those people...my prayers go out to the survivors of this unfortunate accident.

on the other hand, the pilot should be reprimanded for not aiming for the San Diego Chargers Football Stadium. nobody would have cared the less if that dump got obliterated. :D

:salute::salute!:

cadencesdad
12-11-2008, 09:55 PM
Prayers to Dong Yun Yoon and family.



That just broke my heart.


My Dad was AF. We moved around with him, because we were a family. Same when I got married to an AF guy and had kids. Never thought about any danger --- except in Germany when I was pregnant with my second. I was told that I would be given a kit so that I could deliver the baby by myself, if we were to be evacuated.--- Why get married to a military person? Better to marry the local banker.

Is that why your cousin didn't move with her husband, slostenracing? Because of the danger? Just wondering. I was amazed at how many women I met that complained about having to move when they married someone in the military. :confused:

Wow, thats pretty cool BFMD. Where in Germany? I went to kindergarden there. My dad was in the army then, and we lived in Nuremburg (sp?).

I don't remember much, but we lived on an American military base. I remember seeing the Neuschwanstein Castle(sp?), the one Disneyland is designed after. So we lived there in the late 70's early 80's.

RaiderHater9899
12-12-2008, 02:58 PM
And I repeat, anyone putting their family in that situation is taking the same risk as someone taking their family out for a ride to Wal-Mart. No one says you have to live on/near the base with him, plenty of families stay at home while their loved ones serve, you or him made the choice to live there just as this family did for whatever reason.

My point was the man took responsibility in realizing the risk involved in living so close and THAT'S why he was able to forgive the guy.

Way to completely misconstrue what I said and make it sound like I was bashing our armed serviceman. :rolleyes:

I have to echo Missin#7's thoughts. Your comments were rude.
He wasn't even living ON the base. When you reside in San Diego, you are pretty much encircled by the base. You can not escape it. No matter where you live in the area, chances are good, you'll have planes flying over head.
Next, if a family DOES live in the base, they shouldn't have to ask "hmmm, I wonder if the CO if this military base is competent?"

Plus, I took some offence from your comments. I have lived a mile and a half from the largest piece of property the Navy owns my entire life(my parents got out of the Navy aftering moving)and never have I felt in danger.
I haven't even been given a reason to.

This was an accident, a terrible horrific accident I wouldn't wish on anybody. But you need to realize somehow suggesting he was responsible for this tragedy is out of line and insensitive.