Imagine Barrett and Mays manning the middle of the field

[Eliminatrix]

Would that not be sick, who would ever want to come across the middle.... no one.

Plus they would be extremely intimidating both, huge safeties that run in the 4.3s. They both have the speed to cover the difficult TE's in our division, while both being able to lay the hammer and play in the box.

I wasn't a big Mays fan prior to seeing him play in the rose bowl, but he is a hard-nosed safety. I would like to see hime in the blue and orange. Our safety position would be solid for years to come, and safeties can have immediate impact out of college.

Our defense would finally be a little bit scary, and our secondary would improve greatly.

:salute!:

[SBboundBRONCOS]

is something wrong with the other 2 threads that this easily could have gone under . . . come on

[Papa-pwn]

I pray to god we don't waste the 12th pick on mays

[SheerCold]

Would that not be sick, who would ever want to come across the middle.... no one.

Plus they would be extremely intimidating both, huge safeties that run in the 4.3s. They both have the speed to cover the difficult TE's in our division, while both being able to lay the hammer and play in the box.

I wasn't a big Mays fan prior to seeing him play in the rose bowl, but he is a hard-nosed safety. I would like to see hime in the blue and orange. Our safety position would be solid for years to come, and safeties can have immediate impact out of college.

Our defense would finally be a little bit scary, and our secondary would improve greatly.

:salute!:

I love this logic, I pray this will happen. Plus, some mock drafts are saying Mays could get picked at 12th as well.

[Eliminatrix]

Wouldn't that be sick..?:rockon:

[myoung]

Give me a break. Barrett rarely takes the right angle to get a hit. Anyone who feels he plays with 4.3 speed is simply not watching his game. Plus his tackling leaves a little bit to be desired (to put it nicely). He is a project at best. He is not a solid NFL starter and is only starting on our team because of the absolutute crap we have on our roster at safety. I wish everyone would stop salivating over his combine 40 time. At this point I want to see something more on the field.

I am not suggesting we cut him but he should be our 3rd or 4th safety not a starter. He needs much more time to develop and I don't want it to be on the field watching a RB run for 50+ yards.

Mays would be ok with me but I would prefer Delmas in the 2nd round and use our first round pick somewhere else. That being said I would not be upset to have Mays in the first. There is no doubt we need at least one NFL caliber safety on our team.

[BroncosTX77]

Play NCAA 2008 and you can have your dream come true~

[MindField]

'Imagine there is no heaven...it's easy of you try...'

[TheJackal]

We'll draft Mays, pair him with Barrett, watch them do great things, then see all the negative nancies shut their traps. Well hopefully shut their traps, no telling with how many idiots there are on these boards :)

[BroncosTX77]

Denver will have to trade up ahead of 49ers to get Mays

[Broncosinindy]

Give me a break. Barrett rarely takes the right angle to get a hit. Anyone who feels he plays with 4.3 speed is simply not watching his game. Plus his tackling leaves a little bit to be desired (to put it nicely). He is a project at best. He is not a solid NFL starter and is only starting on our team because of the absolutute crap we have on our roster at safety. I wish everyone would stop salivating over his combine 40 time. At this point I want to see something more on the field.

I am not suggesting we cut him but he should be our 3rd or 4th safety not a starter. He needs much more time to develop and I don't want it to be on the field watching a RB run for 50+ yards.

Mays would be ok with me but I would prefer Delmas in the 2nd round and use our first round pick somewhere else. That being said I would not be upset to have Mays in the first. There is no doubt we need at least one NFL caliber safety on our team.Yeah he doesnt have very good ball awareness from what i have seen either. i aggree he is a project. but it was good to get him in games this year to see if he has any potential. he IMO will never be a pro bowler i am hoping for a decent starter

[Peerless]

Josh Barrett has proved nothing for me to even get my hopes up about imagining anything.

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

Denver will have to trade up ahead of 49ers to get Mays

Maybe, Mike Singletary was saying that getting a legit pass rusher is his top priority since Manny Lawson has turned out to be a bust. If Everette Brown declares...

Not to mention, they need a RT desperately. If Michael Otah is still available, he might be too hard to pass up.

But I do agree, they will have Mays very high on their list.

[broncos1997]

or....imagine barrett and moore. that would be way better then mays.

[Roddoliver]

or....imagine barrett and moore. that would be way better then mays.

Moore is looking like a 3rd round safety. I would take Louis Delmas or Rashad Johnson over William Moore.

[jhildebrand]

I imagined the scenario you presented. It was going great until I realized Barrett took a terrible angle and Mays couldn't clean up the mess fast enough! :)

Barrett is a bit raw still. I think he will be a good player though.

[jc13]

Would that not be sick, who would ever want to come across the middle.... no one.

Plus they would be extremely intimidating both, huge safeties that run in the 4.3s. They both have the speed to cover the difficult TE's in our division, while both being able to lay the hammer and play in the box.

I wasn't a big Mays fan prior to seeing him play in the rose bowl, but he is a hard-nosed safety. I would like to see hime in the blue and orange. Our safety position would be solid for years to come, and safeties can have immediate impact out of college.

Our defense would finally be a little bit scary, and our secondary would improve greatly.

:salute!:


we share a dream

[Papa-pwn]

Every time I think of us draftin Taylor Mays I get sick to my stomach

There are so many more talented football players we should use the 12th pick on

[jc13]

Every time I think of us draftin Taylor Mays I get sick to my stomach

There are so many more talented football players we should use the 12th pick on

come on carl

haha dude when i was in ffa my pig was named handbannana

[RunYouOver]

Every time I think of us draftin Taylor Mays I get sick to my stomach

There are so many more talented football players we should use the 12th pick on

Fair enough.

Everytime I think of us wasting a first round pick on RB I get sick to my stomach knowing we'll still get torn apart on defense next year, and 40 points won't be a guarantee to win.

[Papa-pwn]

Fair enough.

Everytime I think of us wasting a first round pick on RB I get sick to my stomach knowing we'll still get torn apart on defense next year, and 40 points won't be a guarantee to win.

Drafting T Mays won't solve all our defensive woes

And by no means am i suggesting we ignore our D, I simply want Beanie Wellsin a broncos uni, the remaining 9 pick should go to defense

[RunYouOver]

Drafting T Mays won't solve all our defensive woes

And by no means am i suggesting we ignore our D, I simply want Beanie Wellsin a broncos uni, the remaining 9 pick should go to defense

I didn't say it would solve our defensive woes, but the fact is our defense needs serious help.

There's plenty of gems to be found in the later rounds, but in all honesty, the best bet to find a star defensive player is in the first round.

Our worst position on defense is safety.

Taylor Mays is a top 10 pick that could fall to us at 12.

He's big, runs a 4.28 40*, and is a GREAT football player.

Our defense needs a lot of help, and surely that is the place to start.


*I don't put too much stock into 40 times, but the fact that he runs that means that he's fast as hell. Having a safety who can catch a WR is a big deal.

[Papa-pwn]

4.28??

No way is he as fast as Chris Johnson...

Or maybe he is?

Idk, we'll see at the combine

[stnzed]

Actually, didn't Denver just live through that same dream in 2008?

Ya know what? You were right.......It WAS sick.......

[RunYouOver]

4.28??

No way is he as fast as Chris Johnson...

Or maybe he is?

Idk, we'll see at the combine

Johnson ran a 4.21 I believe, or it might've been a 4.24...but Mays has been clocked at 4.28, and that would put him as one of the top 15 fastest players in the NFL.

I'm not asking you to love the player...but you can't deny, when rebuilding a defense, that's the best way to start.

BIG, FAST, and a great player, at a position we need dire help at.

[Papa-pwn]

Johnson ran a 4.21 I believe, or it might've been a 4.24...but Mays has been clocked at 4.28, and that would put him as one of the top 15 fastest players in the NFL.

I'm not asking you to love the player...but you can't deny, when rebuilding a defense, that's the best way to start.

BIG, FAST, and a great player, at a position we need dire help at.

That FAH for someone 6-4 230

Damn.

Well i guess I won't be toooo disappointed if we draft him now
He'd be a good addition :thumb:











....but I still want Wells! :laugh:

[RunYouOver]

That FAH for someone 6-4 230

Damn.

Well i guess I won't be toooo disappointed if we draft him now
He'd be a good addition :thumb:











....but I still want Wells! :laugh:

I'm glad I got to you :laugh: ;)

And I know what you mean...if those defensive players aren't available when we pick, and we don't trade down, I'm fine with Wells as well. If we pass them up however...:fight:

[stnzed]

http://www.google.com/search?q=taylor+mays+runs+a+4.28&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

I'm sorry, ROY, there isn't one single shred of legitimate documentation that Mays ran a 4.28, granted I only looked for so long because all I could find is a bunch of blog and message board rhetoric and not one of them provided a link either.

Sean Taylor was supposed to run a low 4.3 too, he didn't, he barely cracked 4.5.

So while Mays may be a great athlete, I'm still skeptical of the 4.28.......

[RunYouOver]

http://www.google.com/search?q=taylor+mays+runs+a+4.28&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

I'm sorry, ROY, there isn't one single shred of legitimate documentation that Mays ran a 4.28, granted I only looked for so long because all I could find is a bunch of blog and message board rhetoric and not one of them provided a link either.

Sean Taylor was supposed to run a low 4.3 too, he didn't, he barely cracked 4.5.

So while Mays may be a great athlete, I'm still skeptical of the 4.28.......

Mays was clocked at 4.28 for the 40 in his spring workouts. I also heard them mention it today during the Rose Bowl...

Granted, it's what he said he ran, but if you've seen him play, I haven't seen him be outrun by anyone.

"Now we know how safety Taylor Mays caught wide receiver Travon Patterson in the final scrimmage.
Mays said he was clocked running 40 yards in 4.28 seconds today in the end of spring workouts."

http://www.insidesocal.com/usc/archives/2007/04/speed.html#comments

That was last year, too.

Edit: Who's ROY :P

Second edit: From last year: Taylor Mays - So. - Take one look at Mays, and its easy to see why he could easily be mistaken for one of the Trojans current All-American linebackers. Mays, who had a breakout freshman campaign, really took his game to another level in the spring, building off a very impressive freshman season. The mammoth sized safety prospect, who recently clocked a 4.28 in the 40 yard dash, made an effort to become one of the vocal leaders of the defense. The Seattle product demonstrated his incredible athleticism when he caught wide receiver Travon Patterson from behind as he took off down the sideline toward the end zone. The situation at safety will become very interesting with the return of Josh Pinkard, but with the way Mays has been playing, he is making it awfully difficult for the coaches to hand Pinkard back his starting job.

http://scfootball.blogspot.com/2007_05_20_archive.html

[LordTrychon]

Edit: Who's ROY :P

Should be Clady, IMO. :salute!:

[stnzed]

There is not doubt that Taylor Mays is a physical freak, I just think the 4.36/4.47/4.56 that NFL Draft Scout has on him is legitimate.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=29974&sport=1

He ran a 4.59 in 2006 as a recruit.

Believe me, I am as intrigued by that 4.28 as anybody, I just can't find anything to substantiate it.......

[RunYouOver]

There is not doubt that Taylor Mays is a physical freak, I just think the 4.36/4.47/4.56 that NFL Draft Scout has on him is legitimate.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=29974&sport=1

He ran a 4.59 in 2006 as a recruit.

Believe me, I am as intrigued by that 4.28 as anybody, I just can't find anything to substantiate it.......

I happen to believe anyone can have a good run, especially in a stress free environment such as spring workouts. I actually put more stock into stuff like that then the combine, because I feel like, despite the training, their always a little more nervous and could probably do better than what they run (except for in Chris Johnson's case :eek:)

Would I say he could consistently run a 4.28? No.

Do I think the clock may have been a little off? Maybe.

Is he still fast as hell for a safety? No question.

I'd say it's fair to guess he could consistently run between 4.35-4.40 or so, with a range of 4.3 to 4.45.

Point is--he's still fast as hell. :laugh:

[esphurricane]

I don't know much about mays but imo if we need help at d line, safety, or linebacker then we should go with linebacker because first round linebackers arent busts nearly as often as safeties or linemen are. I can name great defense changing backers from recent drafts all day. Patrick willis,Demeco ryans,Jerod mayo,derrick johnson,,,,,,,I can't think of even 1 game changing safety of lately,,,,,,,,Maybe it's just me. Maybe Mays is that special,,,,,,,If he is he'll show it at the combine i guess.

[stnzed]

I happen to believe anyone can have a good run, especially in a stress free environment such as spring workouts. I actually put more stock into stuff like that then the combine, because I feel like, despite the training, their always a little more nervous and could probably do better than what they run (except for in Chris Johnson's case :eek:)

Would I say he could consistently run a 4.28? No.

Do I think the clock may have been a little off? Maybe.

Is he still fast as hell for a safety? No question.

I'd say it's fair to guess he could consistently run between 4.35-4.40 or so, with a range of 4.3 to 4.45.

Point is--he's still fast as hell. :laugh:

230 S's that run a 4.36 are freaks, even without the 4.28, Mays is a freak.

My concern is, where was this impact that he had in the Rose Bowl all season long? Is the light finally coming on, or is it just an isolated instance?

This concerns me because I think Mays might be there at 12.......

[RunYouOver]

230 S's that run a 4.36 are freaks, even without the 4.28, Mays is a freak.

My concern is, where was this impact that he had in the Rose Bowl all season long? Is the light finally coming on, or is it just an isolated instance?

This concerns me because I think Mays might be there at 12.......

Well, that I can't answer.

Will he be the next Troy Polamalu, or the next Darnell Bing?

We'll have to see...but I'd say it'd be closer to the former than the latter.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

230 S's that run a 4.36 are freaks, even without the 4.28, Mays is a freak.

My concern is, where was this impact that he had in the Rose Bowl all season long? Is the light finally coming on, or is it just an isolated instance?

This concerns me because I think Mays might be there at 12.......

His job at USC has been to play center field. He hasn't had to make to many plays back there because nobody throws deep on them (Carroll's words), which means he was doing just what they asked him to do.

[LarryDean]

Denver will have to trade up ahead of 49ers to get Mays

:fight:

TX77 wins by default...

Thread will self destruct in 3,2,1

[Ravage!!!]

Ih ave not been impressed with Barrett at all yet. I would be shocked if he's our starting safety next season for a team that doesn't have injuries.

[Peerless]

Imagine Barrett and Mays, manning the middle of the field....


And then all of a sudden, imagine Barrett and Mays peeking in the backfield, and all of a sudden are chasing down a receiver who got open for a big play due to the lack of a defense who couldn't stop the run OR get to the QB to rattle the quarterback.

Touchdown.

[nickmeyer]

William Moore is better.

[GridironChamp]

His job at USC has been to play center field. He hasn't had to make to many plays back there because nobody throws deep on them (Carroll's words), which means he was doing just what they asked him to do.

That is fine, and we've heard that thousands of times... but then if he hasn't
shown the ability to be an elite playmaker, why are so many people penciling
him in as the next Ed Reed?


Now Kevin Ellison probably improved his draft stock last night. He might be moving
up to mid 2nd round barring combine workouts.

[LarryDean]

Now Kevin Ellison probably improved his draft stock last night.

:confused:

DNP

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

That is fine, and we've heard that thousands of times... but then if he hasn't
shown the ability to be an elite playmaker, why are so many people penciling
him in as the next Ed Reed?


Now Kevin Ellison probably improved his draft stock last night. He might be moving
up to mid 2nd round barring combine workouts.

If people don't throw to his area of the field I think that qualifies, but that's just my opinion. ;)

[DiehardinAlaska]

Would that not be sick, who would ever want to come across the middle.... no one.

Plus they would be extremely intimidating both, huge safeties that run in the 4.3s. They both have the speed to cover the difficult TE's in our division, while both being able to lay the hammer and play in the box.

I wasn't a big Mays fan prior to seeing him play in the rose bowl, but he is a hard-nosed safety. I would like to see hime in the blue and orange. Our safety position would be solid for years to come, and safeties can have immediate impact out of college.

Our defense would finally be a little bit scary, and our secondary would improve greatly.

:salute!:


What has been the great fascination with Barret? I think I've seen him make one decent play. There was so much optimism about him I figured his college fans had seen something. So I watched him as closely as possible. What exactly did you see that makes you think he won't be part of the worst safety set in the NFL next season? Even the Lions have better safeties than we do.

[stnzed]

:confused:

DNP

I think he must mean Josh Pinkard who replaced Ellison in the starting lineup.......

[stnzed]

His job at USC has been to play center field. He hasn't had to make to many plays back there because nobody throws deep on them (Carroll's words), which means he was doing just what they asked him to do.

Fair enough.

Is he a centerfielder in the Pro's? Sometimes it's hard to judge S's from watching them on TV.......

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Fair enough.

Is he a centerfielder in the Pro's? Sometimes it's hard to judge S's from watching them on TV.......

You have probably watched him as much as I have, but my initial opinion is absolutely. He would get tested in the NFL a lot more than he has been in college, but I think he would excel.

I think he would give alot of receiver's in the league a case of "alligator arms".
:D

[GridironChamp]

I think he must mean Josh Pinkard who replaced Ellison in the starting lineup.......

Probably, I did think it was Ellison the whole time though. :)