Sharpe didn't make it this year / Hall of Fame (Merged)

[ItalianBronco]

Let me start out by saying I'm 32 years old so I really haven't seen the Bradshaws, or the Swann's...You get the picture...But I was able to see the Montana's and Phil Simms, again you get the picture. In a previous thread they have stat after stat why certain Bronco's SHOULD get in the HOF...Meck,Grad,Atwater,T.D,Rod,Lynch,Jackson...No w Sharpe. My question is very simple... During each mans time with the team, throwing stats out...becouse they each have valid stats...What they did for there team,and the league ...Correct.?

My case is this, you can only tell me a handfull of Safties (at there era) that was on a Steve Atwater level...If you take a poll right now Dawkins of the Eagles would be in...An Ed Reed is in... What makes them any better than what Steve did for us?

Same goes for Lynch...

Rod has better stats then alot of WR in the Hall...Two Superbowls, and was an undrafted player? Meant the World to John...Its like Joe and Jerry...

T.D...He hasn't been in the league long enough...Thats one argument I/ve heard...Name me one RB you would rather have had in those three years...96-97,97-98,98-99...ANSWER NONE...the man had 2000 yards on a John Elway team...Superbowl MVP...There is no rule as to how long one has played...GALE SAYERS...

Now Sharpe...Name me one TE over the course of his career you would take over this 7th round draft pick...3superbowls all the stats...Modernized the position...He made you have to cover the TE with a Nickel Back...Heck,you can make a case he invented the Nickel package,just for him.


All i'm saying is Bronco fan or not...What does one have to do to get in?

Win Superbowls....Check
Have the stats.....Check
Change your team....Check
Change or better your position....Check
Be the best or one of the best during your playing years(baring injury)....Check
No trouble,Steriods,Cancer....Check

Being a Bronco....Sorry...opps,thats a big minus...

You can have your Jacket I think we all know who our REAL HOF's are...:logo::go:

[chazoe60]

It is disgusting the black-balling that goes on with the HOF. I cannot believe there are not more Broncos in.

[expatRick]

Atwater may not have the int numbers the voters like to see in a safety but I think he and Lynch both stack up pretty well at the position. The ILBs have a tough road following in the footsteps of the monster 4-3 MLBs that preceded them. The only predominant 3-4 ILB I can see getting a quick ride to Canton is Seau.

As for Smith and Sharpe, the receiver bar is getting higher all the time. I doubt Smith gets any real consideration but Shannon has a shot. As much as I love TD I think he needed at least 1 more great year, You can compare him to Sayers but Gale was in a class by himself during his era.

[nbaballer913]

Win Superbowls....Check
Have the stats.....Check
Change your team....Check
Change or better your position....Check
Be the best or one of the best during your playing years(baring injury)....Check
No trouble,Steriods,Cancer....Check

Being a Bronco....Sorry...opps,thats a big minus...

Agreed but one more:

Being a leader

[lancane]

The answer is simple, a player or athlete so dynamic that he changed the game in different aspects, helped raise the level of play for his team and likewise in a way for the league as well.

[nbaballer913]

The answer is simple, a player or athlete so dynamic that he changed the game in different aspects, helped raise the level of play for his team and likewise in a way for the league as well.

Well said...Sharpe fits that definition very well.

[Hoserman117]

To clearly be the best at your position for a good period of time and have some Super Bowls rings.

[Artamentous]

HOF = Anyone who didn't play for Denver, unless your name is Elway.

[KWHIT97]

I cannot speak for the Gradishar's, Little's, or Tombstone Jackson's of the world because I've only been a fan since 87.

But, from what I've watched Shannon Sharpe is an undeniable 1st ballot HOFer.

It is an absolute friggin tragedy that Atwater is not in yet. The guy was on 2 Super Bowl Championship teams (and played a big role in both) and also played in another. He went to the Pro Bowl, what, 8 times, was All-Pro 5 or 6 times and has the tackle numbers that dwarf everyone elses. He pratically invented, or at least perfected, the "8th man in the box", and was considered the most feared Safety in the game in his time. If Atwater does not eventually get in, it is a joke.

I think T.D. will eventually get in, he had the best 3 year span of any RB in NFL history, and still owns every play-off rushing record known to man. Throw in an NFL MVP and a Super Bowl MVP and he should get in eventually.

Rod Smith will struggle but should get in. It's sad because as it stands right now Hines friggin Ward is a 1st ballot, Smith, who has better numbers and has had a tougher road may never get in.

I think Tom Nalen will get consideration as well, he definately has the credentials.

Champ Bailey is a 1st ballot and will go in as a Bronco.

Lynch will go in as a Buccaneer. period!

So, in my 21 years of watching Broncos football, these are the guys who I feel are HOF material, and I'm not being biased at all, they are all deserving!

1. Shannon Sharpe (1st ballot)
2. Steve Atwater
3. Champ Bailey (1st ballot)
4. Rod Smith
5. Terrell Davis
6. Tom Nalen

Man, they need to put the Silent Assassin in, this sucks!

[Strimpel]

You really only have to be the best at what you do. Or stay around for 20 years and break a bunch of records....

[Southstander]

As far as there not being more Broncos in the the HOF goes, I do not think that it has to do with black balling.


For me my thinking is that if you have to make an argument for a player they do not belong in it.

It is the HOF not the Hall of the Very Good.

[down_fall]

what the hell is that

[ckstorm182000]

So sad. Congrats to those who made it.

[in.the.game]

sad... definitely.

i think it was a pretty strong class though. shannon will get in eventually.

[Den615]

Sharpe didnt make the Hall of Fame...i swear they use the most ridicules selection process

Sharpe redefined the TE position, and he should have made it over both woodson and thomas

there is no reason sharpe should not be in the hall:mad:

[ckstorm182000]

he didn't get in for the same reasons we only have two Broncos in the HOF.

Too many East Coast bias opinions

[assassin216]

i dont understand that at all....

[nbaballer913]

Just plainly unfair. What do you have to do get in the HOF as a Bronco? Winning 3 SBs and breaking almost all (if not all) the significant records at your position aren't enough huh? :mad:

[Den615]

this is bull, im so pissed write now

[dragster69]

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=134088

[DenverBlood]

yet another rediculous showing of nfl bias and hatred against the broncos. This is really getting to be pathetic. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for sharpe not being a first ballot hall of famer. And he will probably get screwed again next year as emmit smith and jerry rice are eligible and everyone loves them

[Broncofan1990]

another Denver Bronco dose not get in..... shocked?..... not really

[broncosker25]

That sucks. I heard Sharpe on Mike and Mike in the morning say that he was prepared to get a call on Saturday saying that he was not elected and that he had made peace with it. He understands how difficult it is to get into the HOF first ballot and he said he will let his body of work speak for itself. This class was loaded this year. He will be in sooner rather than later. He left the game with every major record for a TE so he will get in someday no doubt. Just wish that tool Woodson had not gotten in over Sharpe.

This just reinforces my belief that the Broncos are with a doubt the most underrated franchise in NFL history. Our body of work speaks for itself over the last 30+ years as we have had as much success as any franchise during that time period. Maybe if we had an arrogant prick of an owner like Al Davis or Jerry Jones then we could more people into the HOF.:rolleyes: I don't know but us only having 2 HOFers is a joke. In time our great players will get their due. Here is to Sharpe in the HOF class in 2010!

[Strimpel]

He will get in eventually.

[hawk60]

It upsets me that he did not get in.

What does a person have to do??? And Woodson??? what a joke...:smash:

Maybe next year Sharpe will get the honors he very much deserves!!!:salute:

[Red-Falcon]

He has to make it next year... After all, he was the best Tight End the NFL has ever had...

[Broncofan1990]

Woodson is a hell of a player he deservers to get in..... but what's up with everybody hanging from his jock.... also Cris Carter should of gotten in...... the HOF system is a joke

[assassin216]

He has to make it next year... After all, he was the best Tight End the NFL has ever had...

I doubt it, Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice gonna be in next year....that leaves 5 slots left.

[broncofanatik]

I doubt it, Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice gonna be in next year....that leaves 5 slots left.

You mean leaves 3 slots. 2 of the slots are there for older generation football players. I think there's a max of 5 of modern era football players can make it in.

Hey it's not like Sharpe had more SBs than all those guys or more catches than anyone else on that list. If he retired a baltimore raven I garuntee you he would have been inducted.

[Red-Falcon]

Still, I think he has a chance at HOF in 2010... The company in which he'll be in it's a great one... What I didn't understand was why Rod Woodson? Ok, he was a great DB, but still... Why now, and not later? Sharpe was more deserving this role than Woodson.

[Gouger]

Rod Woodsen getting in before Sharpe, is just ridiculous.

[Hoserman117]

I was just about to make a topic about this...

This is absolute bull. Seriously, 3 Super Bowl rings, and set all the significant records for TE's... An All Pro many times and pretty much hands down the best TE for his time.

This is absolutely effing insane.

[Strimpel]

Rod Woodsen getting in before Sharpe, is just ridiculous.

Maybe it's because woodson is on nfl network.

[floridabroncos]

This is going to sound politically incorrect, but I don't think Derrick Thomas deserved to make it over Shannon Sharpe, and feel that he only made it because he passed away while he was still playing. Had Thomas not died, it's very likely that Sharpe would've made this cut and Thomas would've had to wait another year. Not saying he didn't deserve to make it, but honestly, he didn't deserve to slide in before Sharpe.

[Anti_KC_choklnd]

I am honestly not surprised at Sharpe being snubbed. It's because of the colors he wore, many Denver player have been snubbed over the years, and the only shoe in was Elway. Sharpe broke and set many records in his career, 3 rings, and redefining the TE position. It's ridiculous how many snubs the Broncos franchise has gotten over the years. 2 HOFers in our history? Something is in need of a change in the selection process.

[Anti_KC_choklnd]

he didn't get in for the same reasons we only have two Broncos in the HOF.

Too many East Coast bias opinions
QFT...If would have stayed in Baltimore, he would be in.

[AtwaterHITS27]

They tried to explain the voting procedures and how someone has to come up with a major "con" and the player has to receive 80% of the vote. Sharpe was the only Tight End that was selected. I just don't see what they could have come up with to say he wasn't good enough. :/

[Thor]

Floyd Little, Rich Jackson, Lionel Taylor, Randy Gradishar, Louis Wright, Tom Jackson, Karl Mecklenberg, Dennis Smith Are just a few Broncos who deserve to be in the Hall of Fame but have been snubbed for one stupid reason or another and now SHANNON SHARPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This really makes me upset! I believe the time for complaining amongest ourselves is over. Let's take a lesson from the Portland Trailblazer fans in Oregon when Gumble called their fans a bunch of whiners. They sent him so many emails he had to get a new address or two just to accommodate everything that was coming in. Let's flood ESPN and the NFL Network with so many emails that their computers crash! Nothing vulger or threatening, just let them know how displeased we are with the whole process. I know ESPN and the NFL Network had nothing to do with Bronco players being snubbed but it is a great place to start and be heard!!!!
The squeeky wheel gets the grease folks. I'm probably a fool for doing this but I'm going to voice my opinion. Once I find the addresses of those who did vote they WILL hear from me.:smash:

[AtwaterHITS27]

I am honestly not surprised at Sharpe being snubbed. It's because of the colors he wore, many Denver player have been snubbed over the years, and the only shoe in was Elway. Sharpe broke and set many records in his career, 3 rings, and redefining the TE position. It's ridiculous how many snubs the Broncos franchise has gotten over the years. 2 HOFers in our history? Something is in need of a change in the selection process.

There is no doubt about it that the NFL has a natural distaste for Broncos' history and current players. Our organization has produced tremendous players that deserve to be in the hall.

To be honest with you, if Sharpe had even gotten 4 Super Bowl rings, I think they still would have snubbed him; just because he was a Bronco. :/

[AtwaterHITS27]

Floyd Little, Rich Jackson, Lionel Taylor, Randy Gradishar, Louis Wright, Tom Jackson, Karl Mecklenberg, Dennis Smith Are just a few Broncos who deserve to be in the Hall of Fame but have been snubbed for one stupid reason or another and now SHANNON SHARPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This really makes me upset! I believe the time for complaining amongest ourselves is over. Let's take a lesson from the Portland Trailblazer fans in Oregon when Gumble called their fans a bunch of whiners. They sent him so many emails he had to get a new address or two just to accommodate everything that was coming in. Let's flood ESPN and the NFL Network with so many emails that their computers crash! Nothing vulger or threatening, just let them know how displeased we are with the whole process. I know ESPN and the NFL Network had nothing to do with Bronco players being snubbed but it is a great place to start and be heard!!!!
The squeeky wheel gets the grease folks. I'm probably a fool for doing this but I'm going to voice my opinion. Once I find the addresses of those who did vote they WILL hear from me.:smash:

Doesn't sound like a bad idea at all! :go:

[IA_Broncosfan53]

Jerry Rice wont be eligable will he? He retired only a couple of seasons ago after he wasn't going to be an impact player with the Broncos.

Then again, it could be longer than I thought.

Not only did Sharpe get snubbed, but John Randle who also transformed his position didn't get in. His numbers across the board were better than Derrek Thomas.

[Anti_KC_choklnd]

There is no doubt about it that the NFL has a natural distaste for Broncos' history and current players. Our organization has produced tremendous players that deserve to be in the hall.

To be honest with you, if Sharpe had even gotten 4 Super Bowl rings, I think they still would have snubbed him; just because he was a Bronco. :/

I totally agree with you...Basically, we are caught in the part of the country that doesn't matter according to ESPN, NFL Netork, and the NFL it's self. If they need to find something bad that he did in order to not make it in, then all I can think of is "We are killing the Patriots". It's an east coat team...

[BRich]

I was reading the names off just expecting to see Shannon's name next. And nothing.

I'm really confused by him not making it.

[Thor]

For those who might be interested here is website with plenty of people to complain to, I've already started.
www.espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/email
Let's do this folks.

[TheSmith28]

its totally freakin bullcrap that Sharpe didn't make it this year...he was totally robbed of it when he deserves to be a first ballot guy. i wanna freakin punch all the guys in that room that voted straight in their knocker!!!!!!
:hammer::hammer::hammer:

[Strimpel]

He should of definitly got in before rod woodson........

[native5280fan]

Shafted AGAIN! I'm with the rest of you, I truly can't believe the lack of brains behind this decision--Shannon Sharpe not a first round HOF inductee??? I get so disgusted every year when the HOF winners are announced and the Bronco players get the shaft, especially when they are truly deserving...Floyd Little, Randy Gradishar, Terrell Davis, Shannon Sharpe--just to name a few.

But no matter what those narrow minded, Bronco hating twits that vote for HOF think, Shannon, Randy, Floyd, Terrell, TJ, Atwater, Smith are all HOFamers in my book! :logo:

[TheSmith28]

it just makes me so angry (for lack of a better word) that all these so called "experts" who vote for this crap, never seems to respect the broncos. we always seem to get over looked by EVERYONE because we're the broncos...its crap. shannon was an awesome, great tight end and deserves to be in that hall NOW!

[SkyFlash1]

I am honestly not surprised at Sharpe being snubbed. It's because of the colors he wore, many Denver player have been snubbed over the years, and the only shoe in was Elway. Sharpe broke and set many records in his career, 3 rings, and redefining the TE position. It's ridiculous how many snubs the Broncos franchise has gotten over the years. 2 HOFers in our history? Something is in need of a change in the selection process.

Well, the selection process starts with what team you're on and since we only now have 2 members pulling for us, we're on a losing battle. Just a few days ago nfl.com had a video feature on the 10 most spectacular SB performances of SB history and the cover picture was TD busting through the GB line. I know there are some (idiots) here that don't think TD deserves a HOF spot because of his shortened career but those people (idiots) are just fueling the fire of the "Ban the O & B" HOF selection board.

Lets get some stellar athletes in the hall like Sharpe, Davis, and Little and quit electing the Davises, Maddens, Wilsons, etc. who were never once cheered by fans for some great play.

[RioAbajo Bronco]

The anti broncos establishment strikes again

[Sequence]

wow. I thought he was a lock: how many SB rings, how many years, his stats, how he redefined the position...

typical snub. that's why i hate on the eastern press, those hacks who have their tainted noses up Donovan McNabb's arse and are blind to the fact that football history does indeed happen W of Appalachia...:go:

Hang in there SS-- next year for sure. :peace:

[Sequence]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa he didn't deserve it so shut up maybe in 10 years

Oh WOW a new troll has arrived to offer it's wisdom. :yawn: Donkey dung, indeed. That says it all :P

[UberBroncoMan]

Oh WOW a new troll has arrived to offer it's wisdom. :yawn: Donkey dung, indeed. That says it all :P

He'll probably get a suspension/ban for trying to start flame wars in the wrong section, so it's ok.

[DiehardinAlaska]

Thomas but no Sharpe - awesome. Ya know what the fans and Bowlen ought to get together and buy some ads, specifically in east Coast markets showing the end of the Cheifs game where Sharpe just owned him. He got like 50 yards in penalties on one series out of Thomas. It was the funniest damn thing since the call to the president during the Patriots game.
They oughta play that Broncos - Cheifs loop about a thousand times.

Anyway...
Clearly the NFL HOF is the biggest joke in the sports world. First Gradishar, now Sharpe.

[chazoe60]

To H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS with the HOF voters. That must be the single largest gathering of nimrods this side of NATO. If there was a combined 15 brain cells in that entire room I would be shocked.

There was a thread on the MB a while ago that was about the Broncos being ranked as the 5th best franchise since the merger. The source for this thread was not opinion related but actually used numbers and a scientific formula to come up with the results. I tried to find the thread, but could not. If someone could post a link to it CPs for you. My point is, how in the hell can the 5th greatest franchise in NFL history only have 2 HOFers(Willie Brown and Tony Dorsett are much more closely associated with other teams).

IMO the HOF voters lost the very minuscule amount of credibility they had left. Randy Gradishar, Rich "Tombstone" Jackson, Floyd Little, TD, Steve Atwater, Dennis Smith, and now Shannon Sharpe have all been overlooked for the HOF. Give me an effing break.

The Ring of Fame at this point has more credibility than the HOF. Oh well, maybe I shouldn't get so worked up about it, but it is frustrating to see these great players treated like second rate when they so clearly are not.

[TheMastermind]

NFL, ESPN, HOF.....always forgetting the Broncos

here's another acronym for ya.....

NBHF

see for yourself have fun with it lol

http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/research/paracomp/htbin/anym.cgi?count=20&min=3&max=6&words=No+Broncos+in+the+Hall+of+Fame%0D%0A

seriously this year broke my back as a Bronco fan :sad:

[VenomousDB]

We've been Munsoned!

[sharpedressedfan]

Question: o.k., it is well-known that the HOF votors like to "punish" players for certain reasons (whether it be a boorish personality, a messed-up personal life, not talking enough to the media etc.) by snubbing them -- do you think that Shannon's snubbing may have anything to do with the fact that his brother Sterling was a media pariah (during his playing days?)? Are they taking out their dislike of Sterling on Shannon?

The media are tools and aren't above such pettiness. Was this their way of sticking it to Sterling, through his brother?

I thought about this possibility as soon as Shannon became eligible. Sure enough - the senseless snubbing did occurr.

I mean, here is an example of how much of a jerk Sterling could be to the media (excerpts taken from an old 1994 Sports Illustrated article - via the online SI Vault):


Meanwhile, in Green Bay the 9-6 Packers were making preparations for the divisional showdown in their singular way. Wide receiver Sterling Sharpe looked with disgust at a reporter trying to make small talk. Isn't it nice, the scribe offered, that Sharpe's younger brother, Shannon, of the Denver Broncos, credits Sterling with having encouraged him to play college ball after high school rather than join the Army? Isn't that nice?

"Why don't you ask him?" snapped Sterling.

Well, the scribe has already done that. And Shannon has said, "Yes, it is nice."

Sterling, who would enter Sunday's game as the league's leading receiver, with 106 catches, two shy of the single-season NFL record he set last year, mumbled something in reply. He does not much like talking to ink-stained wretches—or to Packer fans. He does not care to comment on his triumphs or his miscues. like his drop of a fourth-quarter pass that cost Green Bay a victory over the Chicago Bears on Dec. 5. In the days leading up to the game against the Lions, he had been scheduled to participate in a conference call with reporters, presumably to chat about his impending record. He did not show up. His voluble teammate Reggie White was forced to fill in for him. All for one and one for all!

...........

Afterward it was hard to know what Favre had been thinking when he heaved the ball up for grabs, because he declined to speak with the press—see how Sharpe Disease spreads?

As for Sharpe, his six receptions gave him a record 112 for the season, a remarkable accomplishment, especially since he played much of this season with a "turf toe," which prevented him from practicing for almost half of Green Bay's games. Surely Sharpe would want to reflect on his achievement.

Reporter: "Sterling, could I talk to you for a moment?"

Sharpe: "What the——for?"

Reading that made me laugh - but for the reporter (and his peers) - maybe they took that stuff to heart. Are they now getting their revenge on Sterling - by snubbing his little brother?

[32n33]

Honestly what a load of crap! Three rings, one on the eastcoast so that should have helped. The greatest TE of all time? Maybe not but one of the best no doubt. What is wrong with people?

[Blanket24]

This is a flat out embarressment, shame on the selecrion commitee. To be the most productive player ever at your position, An all Decade team selection and a key component in 3 World championships. Shame on you for not validating the greatest Tight End ever with a first ballot hall of fame induction, Unacceptable!

[NoRingNoGlory]

You guys might find some answers and "nuggets" in this thread as to why/why not. I'm not sayin' nothin', I'm just sayin'....

http://forums.signonsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=82249

[chazoe60]

You guys might find some answers and "nuggets" in this thread as to why/why not. I'm not sayin' nothin', I'm just sayin'....

http://forums.signonsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=82249

Wow you're really drunk tonight. You started venturing out of the smack forum. Okay drunky take it back to your regular domain.

[NoRingNoGlory]

Wow you're really drunk tonight. You started venturing out of the smack forum. Okay drunky take it back to your regular domain.

Who said I can't venture out of the SS?
We got some friends over tonight for a casual dinner and they brought their friends who are visiting San Diego from Denver and all they brought the the party was booze. I'm already going to bed soon and they are carrying on like made. One has a Marshall Jersey on and the other a Cutler Jersey. The wives are sitting there embarassed as hell.

Anyways, I was just trying to help out here to maybe get a different perspective on the Sharpe thing.

:helmet::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[chazoe60]

Who said I can't venture out of the SS?
We got some friends over tonight for a casual dinner and they brought their friends who are visiting San Diego from Denver and all they brought the the party was booze. I'm already going to bed soon and they are carrying on like made. One has a Marshall Jersey on and the other a Cutler Jersey. The wives are sitting there embarassed as hell.

Anyways, I was just trying to help out here to maybe get a different perspective on the Sharpe thing.

:helmet::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Sure drunkard. You were talking smack and you know it. Now have your mommy tuck you in and don't forget the puke bucket, you wouldn't want to mess up the floor in the trailer.

[NoRingNoGlory]

Sure drunkard. You were talking smack and you know it. Now have your mommy tuck you in and don't forget the puke bucket, you wouldn't want to mess up the floor in the trailer.

No, your turning this into smack and you know it.
I just pointed to a "suggestion" thread and said nothing more.
You then attacked me.

[chazoe60]

No, your turning this into smack and you know it.
I just pointed to a "suggestion" thread and said nothing more.
You then attacked me.

I didn't attack you. I simply pointed out exactly what you were doing BoltMan.

[japfaff]

I was flamed all week when I said that Shannon wont be getting the call for 5-7 years. Why does this shock anyone. he is a TE who's records didnt stand up for 5 years. Why do you guys sweat it. If you make the finals in your first year you will eventually make it. What is the big deal about missing it in your first year of eligibility. It took Art Monk 13 years to make it, and he was the Dominate WR for a lot of years, and he held all the recieving records

[DancingHorsey]

I was flamed all week when I said that Shannon wont be getting the call for 5-7 years. Why does this shock anyone. he is a TE who's records didnt stand up for 5 years. Why do you guys sweat it. If you make the finals in your first year you will eventually make it. What is the big deal about missing it in your first year of eligibility. It took Art Monk 13 years to make it, and he was the Dominate WR for a lot of years, and he held all the recieving records

When a Bronco doesn't get in this is what happens. It's nothing new. Every year we have someone get snubbed. I don't think it's about Sharpe as much as it's about the general pattern of Broncos never getting in.

Thinking about all the great players this team has had, and knowing that all but two aren't in the HoF, it's kind of hard to not get pissed off.

[japfaff]

When a Bronco doesn't get in this is what happens. It's nothing new. Every year we have someone get snubbed. I don't think it's about Sharpe as much as it's about the general pattern of Broncos never getting in.

Thinking about all the great players this team has had, and knowing that all but two aren't in the HoF, it's kind of hard to not get pissed off.

That is what people say... But really only Randy G deserves it.... TD will get in by the vet commitee. But really other than those two there is no one the is HOF worthy..

[DancingHorsey]

That is what people say... But really only Randy G deserves it.... TD will get in by the vet commitee. But really other than those two there is no one the is HOF worthy..

Wow...you really think that?

Let's see...well there's Shannon Sharpe!

Some others that come to mind:

8-time pro bowler 3-time all-pro Steve Atwater
6-time pro bowler 4-time all-pro Dennis Smith
6-time pro bowler 4-time all-pro Karl Mecklenburg
Rich Jackson
Goose Gonsoulin

There are many players of less worth from other teams that have been inducted.

[Dakotabroncofan]

No i'm not happy but keep the faith,he will get in at some point.

[LarryDean]

Sharpe should have been voted in.....Give me a break it's just silly that he wasnt...

He is one of the best all time at his position and no one can question that .....

The endless disrepect of the Broncos orginization and its players is mind boggling to me ....

[Ravage!!!]

He'll get in. No one can deny that the players that WERE voted in didn't deserve to be voted in. Cris Carter will be in the HoF also.

[dekers]

He'll get in. No one can deny that the players that WERE voted in didn't deserve to be voted in. Cris Carter will be in the HoF also.

I agree .i think they should change it to were they can put up to 10 in a year. There are some great players that should be in the hall.

[gorky]

I personally will never ever visit the hall of fame, until at least 5 players drafted by the Broncos are in.
(The count is currently zero.)

So, I guess when I'm 80?

I suggest others do the same. Don't visit the hall of shame.

They should rename it to the Giants/Cowboys/Steelers ex-players exhibit.

(Cutler has a zero percent chance of making it in, unless we trade him to one of those teams. Then his chance is 100%)
No player drafted by the Broncos makes it in.


Perhaps a better idea is to open a new hall, out here in the west called, "Hall of Ability". It would have nothing to do with "Fame" but instead reflect the talent that was on the field.

[japfaff]

Wow...you really think that?

Let's see...well there's Shannon Sharpe!

Some others that come to mind:

8-time pro bowler 3-time all-pro Steve Atwater
6-time pro bowler 4-time all-pro Dennis Smith
6-time pro bowler 4-time all-pro Karl Mecklenburg
Rich Jackson
Goose Gonsoulin

There are many players of less worth from other teams that have been inducted.

You are right with that one. But denver isnt a main stream team. There are absolutly Cowboys, Redskins, Steelers that do not belong in the HOF. Atwater was definatly great, and maybe HOF worthy. But he is a safety. It is a hard road for safties to make it. But for some reason he isnt viewed as one of the top safties on this Generation. Smith and Meck....well we will never see either of them make the ballot. When you have been retired nearly 20 years and you cant make it you never will. But agian these are just great players, neither of them are the special once in a lifetime type players that deserve a HOF nomination

[Big Hock]

With Shannon Sharpe being snubbed from the HOF after being imho the best TE in history, it makes me wonder, will Tony Gonzalez be a first ballot inductee?

[japfaff]

No he will not be first ballot... But TG is going to put the records so far out there that they wont be touched till long after he retires. Tony G is the best TE ever, and he will make it. But there are just some positions that have a tough road to the hall... look at Ray Guy, Greatest Punter ever, no HOF. ask any Defender that player with him about what a key he was to Oaklands D in the 70's. To a man they will say that he was the most important player on D

[jdubv724]

Has any TE every been a first ballot hall of famer?

I don't think Tony G will be in first ballot because of the position he played.

[The Experience]

Sharpe is the best TE to ever play the game. He doesnt get in 1st ballot, then Gonzales sure as hell wont.

[Who'sTheMaster]

I hope he gets in first ballot. Great tight end. Had every team looking for college power forwards. He put up ridiculous numbers with average QBs. He was a stand up guy off the field with stories of him saving lives by performing the Heimlich maneuver. No Super Bowls and the fact that he's a tight end might delay his entry.

[Ravage!!!]

FIrst of all.... let me say that I don't think Sharpe was "snubbed".. second... I don't give a crap if Tony is a 'first ballot' or not.

Third.... any bozo that thinks Tony is better... is a baffoon. How many playoff games has Tony G won? How many Super Bowls has he been to or won? The Ravens didn't go to or win a Super Bowl without Sharpe.

Sharpe has three Rings.

Sharpe opened the door for Tony G. I don't get this "snubbed" crap when every player that went in, deserved to be in.

[dragster69]

It will depend on the quality of the competition
That's what happened this year with Shannon, though I think he was better deserving than Woodson at least this time around

[LV BRONCOFREAK]

FIrst of all.... let me say that I don't think Sharpe was "snubbed".. second... I don't give a crap if Tony is a 'first ballot' or not.

Third.... any bozo that thinks Tony is better... is a baffoon. How many playoff games has Tony G won? How many Super Bowls has he been to or won? The Ravens didn't go to or win a Super Bowl without Sharpe.

Sharpe has three Rings.

Sharpe opened the door for Tony G. I don't get this "snubbed" crap when every player that went in, deserved to be in.

:confused: So what does it take to get in? Sharpe was the very best at his position held every record till he retierd has 3 rings has probowls! how in the hell is that not getting snubbed ? name 1 tight end that was better then him at the time he was playing......because I can't.

[silkamilkamonic]

Has any TE every been a first ballot hall of famer?


Never.

The only way a TE is getting in the HoF as a first ballot will be if his competiton is incredibly weak that year.

[Ravage!!!]

Never.

The only way a TE is getting in the HoF as a first ballot will be if his competiton is incredibly weak that year.

which is never going to happen.... I mean, there is never really going to be a year where the competition for the HoF is "weak"... not in my opinion.

[Ravage!!!]

:confused: So what does it take to get in? Sharpe was the very best at his position held every record till he retierd has 3 rings has probowls! how in the hell is that not getting snubbed ? name 1 tight end that was better then him at the time he was playing......because I can't.

As I said before... he WILL get in.... its just not a "snub" to say that he wasn't voted in THIS year. Its not like the guys that did get voted in didn't deserve it as well. Its not like Sharpe can no longer get in. I bet he gets in next year, or maybe the year after.. but Sharpe gets in.

[Shsonline]

Respectively, Shannon and Gonzalez are one or two all-time in their positions (which order it doesn't matter). As far as I'm concerned. If that's not enough to be a 1st ballot HOFer, I don't know what is.

[broncofanatik]

Tony G will be a 1st ballot hall of famer. some people just are. Same as champ. He will be 1st ballot but just because of name recognition. Even if he doesn't win or go to a SB. Tony G for some reason will be a 1st ballot hof.

[TONYTZ]

With Shannon Sharpe being snubbed from the HOF after being imho the best TE in history, it makes me wonder, will Tony Gonzalez be a first ballot inductee?

I hope not but I can care less.

[KCLadyFan]

I didn't vote cause I really don't have any idea if Tony will get in the first time he becomes eligible.Right now he holds all the records for a TE.He broke all of
Shannon's records plus he has set some that have never been.

He will definately get in and rightly so but it's hard telling when he will get in.
Of course after he retires he will have to wait the 5 years before he is even eligible to get in.

[Hardcore Bronco Babe]

I'm still in shock that Shannon got snubbed. I also don't think that Tony will get in on the first time either. I'm beginning to think that if some former player wasn't a Cowboy or a Redskin they really don't get the consideration they deserve. I also find it very ironic that Derrick Thomas is in the hall but the guy that he grabbed by the facemask three time in the same game and the same quarter (Shannon Sharpe) isn't.

[speardog]

With Shannon Sharpe being snubbed from the HOF after being imho the best TE in history, it makes me wonder, will Tony Gonzalez be a first ballot inductee?

Sharpe got snubbed because of the perception that he can't block. Of course we all know that is a fallacy. he was on the field for almost every rushing attempt from 1995-1999 when Denver lead the league in rushing for that time. He didn't dominate but he almost always had his guy blocked.

*******s from the East Coast will never realize that.:smash:

[UberBroncoMan]

I bet he is. Journalists are all over his balls right now, and when HE is up for BALLOT, no one will have broken HIS RECORDS... unlike Sharpe.

Had Sharpe still been #1 in all his TE records, you can bet he'd be 1st ballot, because there would be no way around it.

[kayleesdaddy]

After seeing how incompetent the hall truly is I can't even recognize it anymore. It's a joke. I will never waste my money to go see the hall nor will I waste my time to watch the ceremony or game (unless Denver is playing). The hall voters and process are biased and incompetent and as a result the institution has no validity. After seeing how Gradishar, Atwater, Little, Wright and now Sharpe have been snubbed I am convinced there is some behind the scenes movement to keep Bronco players out. This isn’t childish conspiracy theory rhetoric, I truly feel there is something fishy with how Bronco players are repeatedly passed up. There is no Pro Football hall of fame as far as I am concerned