Shonn Greene !?!?

[jvw]

NFL | Greene believes blocking scheme in college will help
Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:14:46 -0800

University of Iowa RB Shonn Greene said during his NFL Scouting Combine interview that he believes the zone-blocking scheme Iowa used with help him in the NFL because several of the teams in the league use the scheme.



I know everybody has their favorites, and this guy is mine. Many people are worried about the fact that he might be a one year wander playing in college but not me. He knows the scheme that Denver already has implemented and if you watch this video, you can't tell me that he isn't tough enough to play at a pro level. He's not a blazer, but he doesn't have to be. The best part about him is that he definitely is not afraid to lower his shoulder and plow you over. Hillis, Greene, Young/Bell would be fine by me :go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrWZwH9VVJU

[jvw]

I also failed to mention that he ran for over 100 yards in every single game of the season, the only running back to do so :D :peace:

[Cutler2007]

Greene does not fit the type of RB McD has liked in the past. He likes multipurpose backs. This doesn't automatically dismiss Greene as an option, but I think Brown and Ringer would actually get a higher grade from Josh.

[jvw]

Greene does not fit the type of RB McD has liked in the past. He likes multipurpose backs. This doesn't automatically dismiss Greene as an option, but I think Brown and Ringer would actually get a higher grade from Josh.

Well, he is my one and only draft hope so I can dream :D :salute!:

[lancane]

Greene does not fit the type of RB McD has liked in the past. He likes multipurpose backs. This doesn't automatically dismiss Greene as an option, but I think Brown and Ringer would actually get a higher grade from Josh.

Very true...Brown, Moreno, Ringer and Coffee are a few of the top of my head that fit the spread, but could also be effective in a ZBS system.

[15thebeast]

I say Kory Sheets if he wants a multipurpose back the kid has good hands out the backfield 37 catches last year, he is fresh as he only started carrying the load this year, he has the ability to score touchdowns (he is Purdue's all time rushing touchdown leader with 48). Also he has room to add 10-15 more pounds to make him a better power runner

[neume1mb]

Another Big 10 bust............Curtis Enis like.


Heavy and slow, ala Ron Dayne, Anthony Thomas, Tyrone Wheatley.


No thank you.

[CoryWinget81]

He isnt slow. He's pretty explosive going through people. He's the TANK and the SHELL.

[draco193]

Someone compared him to Micheal Turner. If that is an accurate comparison, I want no part of him.

I do like Glenn Coffee, Kory Sheets.

[bronco4life88]

he reminds me of curtis martin

[Senses Fail]

Someone compared him to Micheal Turner. If that is an accurate comparison, I want no part of him.

Why not? :confused:

Everyone will agree Turner has done wonders in Atlanta. The Chargers made big mistake by letting him go, hearing that makes me want him even more. :salute!:

[getlynched47]

first the argument was that Hillis wasnt fast enough..........now you want to get a RB that has the same running style as Hillis? I thought posters were complaining because they wanted Hillis in a 1-2 punch with a speedster......Greene isnt a speedster......we dont need him.....

[dwills#1fan27]

It would be great if Chris Wells fell to the 2nd round.

[draco193]

Why not? :confused:

Everyone will agree Turner has done wonders in Atlanta. The Chargers made big mistake by letting him go, hearing that makes me want him even more. :salute!:

The fact that 25% of his yards came against the worst two defensive teams in the league (the rest he averaged under 100 yards a game), the fact that he had 9 games where he averaged under 4 yards a a carry, hes not a threat in the passing game.

I think that Matt Ryan did wonders, and that the Falcons underutilized the better back on their roster, Jerious Norwood.

[mx_stiles13]

first the argument was that Hillis wasnt fast enough..........now you want to get a RB that has the same running style as Hillis? I thought posters were complaining because they wanted Hillis in a 1-2 punch with a speedster......Greene isnt a speedster......we dont need him.....

He is faster than Hillis and has better vision.

[jvw]

first the argument was that Hillis wasnt fast enough..........now you want to get a RB that has the same running style as Hillis? I thought posters were complaining because they wanted Hillis in a 1-2 punch with a speedster......Greene isnt a speedster......we dont need him.....

Well, he is faster than Hillis. My whole argument on Hillis was that I thought he should be TE/FB role player. He has just as good of hands as anybody on the team, why not put him where is can catch some balls in space.

[Jack-o-Lantern]

I like Shonn Greene, but I fear his hands are not good enough for McDaniels offensive scheme if he runs the offense anything like he ran in New England. I think McDaniels would like a more diverse back.

That being said, I would still not be upset if we got him. He is a downhill running machine and I think he would be great along side Hillis to wear down opponents and take control of the clock.

[Cutler2007]

Well, he is faster than Hillis. My whole argument on Hillis was that I thought he should be TE/FB role player. He has just as good of hands as anybody on the team, why not put him where is can catch some balls in space.

we will know in about an hour or so...I am hearing 4.6, which would be slower.

[jvw]

I like Shonn Greene, but I fear his hands are not good enough for McDaniels offensive scheme if he runs the offense anything like he ran in New England. I think McDaniels would like a more diverse back.

That being said, I would still not be upset if we got him. He is a downhill running machine and I think he would be great along side Hillis to wear down opponents and take control of the clock.

That will be Hillis's department;)

[skeeter01]

Greene All The Way !!!:smash:

[tsiguy96]

yea hillis ran a 4.51 i think, very likely tobe faster then greene....

[Cutler2007]

yea hillis ran a 4.51 i think, very likely tobe faster then greene....


Hillis had a 4.57 35" vert and 7.15 3 cone...for any about to watch the RBs go here shortly.

[Odendahl]

No Shonn Green but i'll take Knowshon :salute!:

Shonn Green nice college football player but I smell Ron Dayne all over him.

[elevation INC]

the dude just clocked a 4.6 you can keep him.

[neume1mb]

I told you he was slow.

He's gonna be a bust.

[24TheCHAMP24]

After watching him at the combine I am not impressed. I think his stock is dropping

[24TheCHAMP24]

He looked like garbage in the slalom event they did too.

[MFJ]

I remeber reading somewhere that Greene was rumored to be around 300 pounds after a year off at Iowa...Can you say Craig Ironhead Heyward?

[D.J.55]

Why does so many fans put stock into the combine numbers? I dont get it. If you want to find out what players can do turn on the film. That will tell you. I expected atleast 4.5 from green but 4.6 isnt bad when consider his game is pounding the rock in between the tackles.

If want to know what a good combine number is for a RB/WR/CB look at their short shuttle and cone drill times. The ability to change direction and redirect. That will give you a sense of what he can do. I'll take a RB who runs in the 4.5 to 4.6s with a great short shuttle time (4.25) and/or cone drill time (7.10) over a run back who runs a 4.36 or 4.44 and puts a 4.5 SS or 7.40 cone.

Green stock wont take a hit because of his 40 time.

[lancane]

Why does so many fans put stock into the combine numbers? I dont get it. If you want to find out what players can do turn on the film. That will tell you. I expected atleast 4.5 from green but 4.6 isnt bad when consider his game is pounding the rock in between the tackles.

If want to know what a good combine number is for a RB/WR/CB look at their short shuttle and cone drill times. The ability to change direction and redirect. That will give you a sense of what he can do. I'll take a RB who runs in the 4.5 to 4.6s with a great short shuttle time (4.25) and/or cone drill time (7.10) over a run back who runs a 4.36 or 4.44 and puts a 4.5 SS or 7.40 cone.

Green stock wont take a hit because of his 40 time.

Logic? On these boards...we don't need no stinkin' logic!...lmfao. I agree completely, but don't tell the fandom that, they think numbers mean the world!

:D

[D.J.55]

Logic? On these boards...we don't need no stinkin' logic!...lmfao. I agree completely, but don't tell the fandom that, they think numbers mean the world!

:D

I can tell. 3 threads poped up because of the 40 times. If you want to see where over valuing 40 times gets you. Lookin no further than the Raiders.

[lancane]

I can tell. 3 threads poped up because of the 40 times. If you want to see where over valuing 40 times gets you. Lookin no further than the Raiders.

Come now, you know Al Davis is just drafting them so he can eventually find the body parts to make himself live another hundred years...lmao.

[iowabronco24]

As much as I like Greene I don't think he's the kind of back we need. His hands are too big of a question for my liking, but I do think the guy is going to be productive if he goes to the right team. Also I think if you guys watched him play he's one of those guys who have game speed. There was a couple times this year where he completely outran Big 10 DB's for TD's. I'm not saying thats the most impressive thing in the world but I mean the guy isn't "slow" by any means, at least when you watch him in games he doesn't look slow. Obviously the guy isn't a burner but he's also deceptively quick and has shown he can joke a safety in the box if he has to.

[getlynched47]

Peyton Hillis>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shonn Greene

Greene is a slower version of Peyton Hillis that doesnt break nearly as many tackles as Hillis

[mx_stiles13]

Peyton Hillis>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shonn Greene

Greene is a slower version of Peyton Hillis that doesnt break nearly as many tackles as Hillis

BS.

Where is your poof?

The 40 means nothing if you've watched both play. Shonn Greene makes faster cuts and can change directions much quicker than Hillis. Greene also has great vision which helps with elusiveness.

[draco193]

Why does so many fans put stock into the combine numbers? I dont get it. If you want to find out what players can do turn on the film. That will tell you. I expected atleast 4.5 from green but 4.6 isnt bad when consider his game is pounding the rock in between the tackles.

If want to know what a good combine number is for a RB/WR/CB look at their short shuttle and cone drill times. The ability to change direction and redirect. That will give you a sense of what he can do. I'll take a RB who runs in the 4.5 to 4.6s with a great short shuttle time (4.25) and/or cone drill time (7.10) over a run back who runs a 4.36 or 4.44 and puts a 4.5 SS or 7.40 cone.

Green stock wont take a hit because of his 40 time.

Actually, according to the guys who do statistical analysis of football, say that 40 times and vertical jump have the greatest correlation to predciting a backs success from combine numbers. Obviously numbers arent anything, but, well defined metrics usually turn out right.

Its an interesting article, Id encourage everyone to read it. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3337822

[KWHIT97]

He isnt slow. He's pretty explosive going through people. He's the TANK and the SHELL.


He ran a 4.72 at the combine, I could do that!

[CoryWinget81]

He ran a 4.72 at the combine, I could do that!

Do you live in Denver? Can I come time you? LOL

4.72 is an awful time to score at the combine, especially when Greene wants to be a premiere back.

That being said, he has faster game speed that measured yesterday. I too watched him beat LB's through the hole, get to the outside of safties that had pretty good angles on him, and then out run DB's.

I don't know if that makes him good or not. He could have had a pretty good line, a pretty good FB. Maybe the WR's on that team are taught to block hard on run plays. There are all sorts of explanations, I guess. We'll just have to wait it out!

[Ryan Clady]

I think it's a slow track. Nearly everybody is running slower than expected.

[jvw]

He ran a 4.72 at the combine, I could do that!

His first run was a 4.65, i'll admit that he's not faster than Hillis after watching that piss poor performance but i'm still a fan and he's still on my wish list.

[BarkdogRX7]

Over the last few years I had really hoped Denver would draft a big name RB and tell him "It's your job to lose"...but Shanny always gave the job to scrubs (And to his defense, a lot of them worked) but Im sick of just getting by when teams now run there systems around guys like Marshawn Lynch, Adrian Peterson, and then last years draft with Tashard Choice, Mendenhall, Felix Jones...it kinda sickens me cause every year due to YouTube vids I see a ton of potential in these guys and we watch them thrive elsehwere.

I really wanted Lynch a few years ago, last yr I wanted Mendy or Choice, this year I really dig Greene...all of those mentioned dudes would run well over 1200 in D-Town if helathy lol

[CJ_5256]

Over the last few years I had really hoped Denver would draft a big name RB and tell him "It's your job to lose"...but Shanny always gave the job to scrubs (And to his defense, a lot of them worked) but Im sick of just getting by when teams now run there systems around guys like Marshawn Lynch, Adrian Peterson, and then last years draft with Tashard Choice, Mendenhall, Felix Jones...it kinda sickens me cause every year due to YouTube vids I see a ton of potential in these guys and we watch them thrive elsehwere.

I really wanted Lynch a few years ago, last yr I wanted Mendy or Choice, this year I really dig Greene...all of those mentioned dudes would run well over 1200 in D-Town if helathy lol

I completely agree. I really just want a bad@$$ back. Greene didn't get a good timed 40 but he does have game speed and he has the natural ability to be a good back.
TD ran around a 4.7 at the combine and everybody soon realized that 40 time meant nothing because he could out run nearly every defender on the field.

[CJ_5256]

Tell me his 40 time has anything to do with how he plays on the field after watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrWZwH9VVJU