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Shiz
04-09-2009, 07:18 PM
With Marshall, Royal, Gaffney, Jackson, and Stokley - do you still see him as our #3 WR or do you see Gaffney moving into the #2 spot since he is more familiar with McD's system and Royal moving to the 3 spot over Stokley and taking on the 'Welker role' leaving Stokley at...?

Or Marsh and Royal are our 1-2, with Stokley in the slot like last year?


Also, when is Stokley's contract up with us?

Go Broncos and Go Nugs!:salute!:

Anikai
04-09-2009, 07:20 PM
I was wondering that too. Im gonna go sign up for a Signed Rod Smith Football, and when I come back there better be answers.

Denver Mike
04-09-2009, 07:42 PM
Well Id have to say that our 3 recieving core would have to be

1st- Bmarsh
2nd- Stokely
3rd- Gaffney


Royal might have to wait... the kid is good dont get me wrong but Stokely and Gaffney are veterens in this league and have much experience and talent under their belts... Id keep Royal as our punt/kick returner

ramanboy33
04-09-2009, 07:45 PM
Well Id have to say that our 3 recieving core would have to be

1st- Bmarsh
2nd- Stokely
3rd- Gaffney


Royal might have to wait... the kid is good dont get me wrong but Stokely and Gaffney are veterens in this league and have much experience and talent under their belts... Id keep Royal as our punt/kick returner

Are you kidding me? Royal is coming off a 91 catch, 980, 5 TD rookie season. Presumably he'll get better this year. He should be on the field at least 80% of our offensive snaps.

TheGlue Factory
04-09-2009, 07:54 PM
Are you kidding me? Royal is coming off a 91 catch, 980, 5 TD rookie season. Presumably he'll get better this year. He should be on the field at least 80% of our offensive snaps.

Agreed. In no way did Royal even look like a rookie last year. His rookie season looked better than all of Lelie's combined!

biglenny
04-09-2009, 08:01 PM
Well Id have to say that our 3 recieving core would have to be

1st- Bmarsh
2nd- Stokely
3rd- Gaffney


Royal might have to wait... the kid is good dont get me wrong but Stokely and Gaffney are veterens in this league and have much experience and talent under their belts... Id keep Royal as our punt/kick returner

:jawdrop: Did you forget to watch football last season?????:jawdrop:

elecshoc
04-09-2009, 08:02 PM
Are you kidding me? Royal is coming off a 91 catch, 980, 5 TD rookie season. Presumably he'll get better this year. He should be on the field at least 80% of our offensive snaps.

I'll take royal at 2 please... I bet stokley goes 3 with jg backing up kinda where ever... I think hes here as insurance for the most part... Someone who knows the system enough to backup almost all three positions...

bighuka
04-09-2009, 08:08 PM
don't undersestimate Stokley he is simliar to Welker (they're both 5-10, and white). I'm sure Mcdaniels will believe he has a major use, and for us common folk, maybe he will maybe he won't

Den615
04-09-2009, 08:22 PM
Its hard to say what the order of the depth chart is...but i dont think the depth chart will mean a hole lot. For example even if Royal is listed as the 3rd receiver (like welker) he still has a good chance to lead the team in receptions.

My predictions (in order of most catches)
1. Royal
2. Marshall
3. Gaffney
4. Stockley

I think Gaffney beats out Stockley simply because he is most likely to fill in for Marshall during the suspension

dragster69
04-09-2009, 08:47 PM
Well Id have to say that our 3 recieving core would have to be

1st- Bmarsh
2nd- Stokely
3rd- Gaffney


Royal might have to wait... the kid is good dont get me wrong but Stokely and Gaffney are veterens in this league and have much experience and talent under their belts... Id keep Royal as our punt/kick returnerWhat are you smoking man?
Royal is an excellent receiver. He may not have the experience, but don't question his talents :O
My God, I can't believe the things I read here. Unbelievable the reasoning of some people!

Stokley is an integrate part of our offense. He's made his money as a clutch receiver, a 3rd down receiver. He's still one of the best in the NFL at what he does...

joshunderwood
04-09-2009, 08:51 PM
don't undersestimate Stokley he is simliar to Welker (they're both 5-10, and white). I'm sure Mcdaniels will believe he has a major use, and for us common folk, maybe he will maybe he won't

Ha ha ha, I like the similarites you posted - That made me laugh for sure! In all seriousness though Royal will in no way be the number 4 or Bowlen will fire McD before the season is over.

oldster
04-09-2009, 08:53 PM
I like Brandon a lot, hope he continues to live long and prosper in Denver.

rst08tierney
04-09-2009, 08:59 PM
I like Brandon a lot, hope he continues to live long and prosper in Denver.

me too but Stokes is one concussion away from retirement. He is very valuable out on the field so I hope he stays healthy.

Stokley signed a 3 year contract at the end of the 07 season.

Zealander
04-09-2009, 09:02 PM
With Marshall, Royal, Gaffney, Jackson, and Stokley - do you still see him as our #3 WR or do you see Gaffney moving into the #2 spot since he is more familiar with McD's system and Royal moving to the 3 spot over Stokley and taking on the 'Welker role' leaving Stokley at...?

Or Marsh and Royal are our 1-2, with Stokley in the slot like last year?


Also, when is Stokley's contract up with us?

Go Broncos and Go Nugs!:salute!:

You raise good question. We need more football talk like this.



don't undersestimate Stokley he is simliar to Welker (they're both 5-10, and white). I'm sure Mcdaniels will believe he has a major use, and for us common folk, maybe he will maybe he won't

Right... so because Stokley is white, he'll play as well as Wes Welker :rolleyes:. Do you realize Eddie Royal is also 5'10''? I don't think anybody around here doubts Stokes abilities, but who knows how his age is going to play a factor. It didn't last year... but I'd have to at this point in his career, Eddie Royal is the more effective receiver. He showed incredible poise, playing like a veteran and posting record breaking numbers as a rookie. The kid can play, we should maximize his abilities.

Back to the OP original question, the scenario that plays out in my mind is

Marshall
Gaffney
Royal

If Circumstances arise with injuries, I think Royal is the guy to take the number two spot. I can see both Wes and Royal practicing the "Wes Welker" type role... but Royal has the proven to have the ability to fulfill a number two spot excellently.

For sure, it is going to be very interesting to see how our receiving corps line up this year.

Runner
04-09-2009, 09:50 PM
Stokley may be my favorite player...left.

He's a precise route runner with great hands. I could see McDaniels using him at WR much like New England used RB Kevin Faulk; situational, perhaps third down kind of WR.

He's also great insurance against injury.

Lomax
04-09-2009, 10:18 PM
With Marshall, Royal, Gaffney, Jackson, and Stokley - do you still see him as our #3 WR or do you see Gaffney moving into the #2 spot since he is more familiar with McD's system and Royal moving to the 3 spot over Stokley and taking on the 'Welker role' leaving Stokley at...?

Or Marsh and Royal are our 1-2, with Stokley in the slot like last year?


Also, when is Stokley's contract up with us?

Go Broncos and Go Nugs!:salute!:

The terms number 1 & number 2 get thrown around a lot, without a lot of clarity as to what they mean. I think people think of 2 WR Pro set formations and they think number 1 and number 2 as X receiver (split end) and Z receiver (flanker), and the slot as being a third somewhat marginal receiver who gets fewer catches.

But in the 2007 Patriots offense, who rarely used pro set, who was #1 and who was #2? clearly Welker was in the slot, yet he had the most catches.

I would guess that Marshall will spend most of his time at split end, Gaffney will start at flanker, Royal will be in the slot, Stokley will be a second slot receiver. But as far as catches, I think it could go Royal, then Marshall, Gaffney, and Stokley, in that order.

JakeNbake
04-09-2009, 10:35 PM
Royall will be Number two don't kid your self. Stokley is one of the better slot receivers in the league and Gaffney will have to wait, Jackson(imo) No good

BroncoHeavy
04-09-2009, 11:05 PM
Its hard to say what the order of the depth chart is...but i dont think the depth chart will mean a hole lot. For example even if Royal is listed as the 3rd receiver (like welker) he still has a good chance to lead the team in receptions.

My predictions (in order of most catches)
1. Royal
2. Marshall
3. Gaffney
4. Stockley

I think Gaffney beats out Stockley simply because he is most likely to fill in for Marshall during the suspension

Gaffney is trash, his is only here because mcD has tried to bring in as many people that he can who he is familar with. I see him as 5 receiver behind marshall, royal, stokley, jackson, gaffney...when the pads come on we'll see what's what

EddieRoyalFan
04-09-2009, 11:09 PM
I think this it how it will go: #1 Marshall, #2 Royal, #3 Stokley (Optional Receiver).. then.. Sheffler at #4. Gaffney is trash.

elecshoc
04-09-2009, 11:15 PM
I think this it how it will go: #1 Marshall, #2 Royal, #3 Stokley (Optional Receiver).. then.. Sheffler at #4. Gaffney is trash.

or they drop shef and place graham next to or just off the tackle for protection... then have hillis at slot or release from the backfield just because he a baller... just saying...

EddieRoyalFan
04-09-2009, 11:18 PM
or they drop shef and place graham next to or just off the tackle for protection... then have hillis at slot or release from the backfield just because he a baller... just saying...

I was going to throw Graham in the mix but.. I figured Sheffler will get injured in a game or two, then we'll have Graham. I was being generous and putting Sheffler in the lime light.

elecshoc
04-09-2009, 11:28 PM
I was going to throw Graham in the mix but.. I figured Sheffler will get injured in a game or two, then we'll have Graham. I was being generous and putting Sheffler in the lime light.

LOL... :D

I'm hoping mcd will see hillis as weapon that can be utilized in places were he can't be covered... like seeing him running go routes with a lb trying to keep up with him... something crazy like that...

Tremendous45th
04-10-2009, 05:08 AM
With Marshall, Royal, Gaffney, Jackson, and Stokley - do you still see him as our #3 WR or do you see Gaffney moving into the #2 spot since he is more familiar with McD's system and Royal moving to the 3 spot over Stokley and taking on the 'Welker role' leaving Stokley at...?

Or Marsh and Royal are our 1-2, with Stokley in the slot like last year?


Also, when is Stokley's contract up with us?

Go Broncos and Go Nugs!:salute!:

if royal is relegated to the #3 reciever because this guy knows the system over talent then mcdaniels is being pompous and arrogant.....

but the funny thing is i heard royal was gonna be slot this year is that true????

LarryDean
04-10-2009, 05:27 AM
I think we are putting to much into the #2 wr ...For a system that in its best the #1 and Slot WR got the most yds ....

I think if Gaffeny is any count he will be the #2 and share looks with Royal as the #2 as I think Royal and both Stokley will be playing mostly as the slot.....

Saying that does not mean I think any less of Royal .... I think he will have as good as chance as anyone to excel in McD offense and McD will feel about him about the same as we do and try to get him the ball as much as possible as the #2 and in the Slot.....

I think Zealander had some pretty good thoughts on this thus far .....

I wanted to add I think Stokley's Xp will be great in helping Kyle Orton and I think that mite be his blankey WR..

expatRick
04-10-2009, 07:24 AM
The base formation will likely be one back, 3 receiver, 1 TE.

I don't really believe that Stokely can play every down in the slot anymore. Royal is the best fit, athletically, to play slot but Stokely will get plenty of field time as the 4th receiver.

The receivers will all get playing time at the expense of the TE's and FB's and the field time for the 4th and 5th receivers will be dictated by how well they can run on early downs.

rst08tierney
04-10-2009, 08:18 AM
I think this it how it will go: #1 Marshall, #2 Royal, #3 Stokley (Optional Receiver).. then.. Sheffler at #4. Gaffney is trash.

Im not a Gaffney fan myself but when he was with NewEngland, Moss really opened up the field for the guy to make some plays. The same could happen with Marshall this year.

203KillinSpree
04-10-2009, 08:32 AM
Well Id have to say that our 3 recieving core would have to be

1st- Bmarsh
2nd- Stokely
3rd- Gaffney


Royal might have to wait... the kid is good dont get me wrong but Stokely and Gaffney are veterens in this league and have much experience and talent under their belts... Id keep Royal as our punt/kick returner

Are you serious? Much more talent than Royal? Do you watch Broncos football? If anything he pushes Marshall for the 1 spot. He's that good!

Chillez
04-10-2009, 09:53 AM
I like Brandon Stokley as 3rd receiver one of best in the slot and makes the clutch catches in 3rd down situations like did last year glad still a Denver Bronco.. :logo:

BarkdogRX7
04-10-2009, 12:42 PM
So....stupid question but by "Jackson" u guys are talking D-Jax right or Nate? I guess I was under the impression we either cut or didn't resign D-Jax, but every vet we can keep is primo to me

Shiz
04-10-2009, 01:34 PM
So....stupid question but by "Jackson" u guys are talking D-Jax right or Nate? I guess I was under the impression we either cut or didn't resign D-Jax, but every vet we can keep is primo to me

Chad Jackson, who we picked up last year and actually played for NE as well.

Lomax
04-10-2009, 01:42 PM
Quick question, but has Chad Jackson shown any promise? I don't recall hearing much about him besides perhaps returning a few punts.

LarryDean
04-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Quick question, but has Chad Jackson shown any promise? I don't recall hearing much about him besides perhaps returning a few punts.

2008: Listed as inactive for his first three games with Denver before seeing the field on offense vs. Oak. (11/23)... Caught his first pass as a Bronco, a 19-yarder in the first quarter at NYJ (11/30). It was his first reception since he was a member of the New England Patriots in 2006... Listed as inactive at Car. (12/14) and vs. Buf. (12/21)... Used as Denver’s primary kick returner at S.D. (12/28) and tied a franchise record with eight kickoff returns for 162 yards.

I dont know how much hand McD had him in being let go in NE ... He is still here so that says something imo....I would say he has his work cut out for him and I hope he atleast gets some looks.....

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-10-2009, 01:53 PM
Quick question, but has Chad Jackson shown any promise? I don't recall hearing much about him besides perhaps returning a few punts.

I don't know if things look good for him. He only caught one or two passes last year, and since the Patriots let him walk I am not too optomistic that Josh will be high on him.

That's just my speculative response though.

Den615
04-10-2009, 02:29 PM
Gaffney is trash, his is only here because mcD has tried to bring in as many people that he can who he is familar with. I see him as 5 receiver behind marshall, royal, stokley, jackson, gaffney...when the pads come on we'll see what's what

Gaffney is not trash, and he has a very good chance to be our #3 reciever. He knows the offense so he's already ahead of everyone else. He is a very solid 3rd reciever (44 receptions for 468 yards and two touchdowns last season). He can also fill in for any of the starters if need be. In the 2007 playoffs he had 2 career games when he was put into the starting line up (Against the Jets he had 8 catches for 104 yards and against the Chargers he had 10 catches, 100+ yards, and a TD).

I love Stockley, but as another poster said he is just an injury or 2 away from retirement.

bighuka
04-11-2009, 08:17 AM
Marshall won't be opening up any holes from his living room while he is serving his long overdue 6 game suspension without pay.....

porkadachop
04-11-2009, 08:39 AM
Its hard to say what the order of the depth chart is...but i dont think the depth chart will mean a hole lot. For example even if Royal is listed as the 3rd receiver (like welker) he still has a good chance to lead the team in receptions.

My predictions (in order of most catches)
1. Royal
2. Marshall
3. Gaffney
4. Stockley

I think Gaffney beats out Stockley simply because he is most likely to fill in for Marshall during the suspension

ding ding ding! We have a winner!

Ohenhen12345
04-11-2009, 10:49 AM
The Gaffney signing means Stokely role would be reduced. Because i see Marshall and Royal starting, while Gaffney and Stockley fighting for the 3rd reciever spot.

Hoserman117
04-11-2009, 11:00 AM
Well Id have to say that our 3 recieving core would have to be

1st- Bmarsh
2nd- Stokely
3rd- Gaffney


Royal might have to wait... the kid is good dont get me wrong but Stokely and Gaffney are veterens in this league and have much experience and talent under their belts... Id keep Royal as our punt/kick returner

Were you born yesterday? You're seriously saying we shouldn't use Royal?

Wow.

EddieRoyalFan
04-11-2009, 11:23 AM
Were you born yesterday? You're seriously saying we shouldn't use Royal?

Wow.

I agree.. Royal is way too good not to start. Do we really have to get into stats to show Royal has proven himself? Or can we all just agree Royal should be #2 Receiver.

chris66
04-11-2009, 11:32 AM
The Gaffney signing means Stokely role would be reduced. Because i see Marshall and Royal starting, while Gaffney and Stockley fighting for the 3rd reciever spot.

Gaffney is not a slot receiver and besides Mcd runs a 3 receiver set, 1 te and single back. I would say that marshal and royal on the outside with stokely in the slot. royal moving up to #1 receiver with gaffney on opposite side while Marshal is serving his 3 games suspension.

BarkdogRX7
04-11-2009, 12:04 PM
Is Darrell jackson still on our roster? What about Nate Jackson lol, anyone got the skinny on them

biglenny
04-11-2009, 12:33 PM
Is Darrell jackson still on our roster? What about Nate Jackson lol, anyone got the skinny on them

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=396

check it!

Coachbozo
04-11-2009, 05:36 PM
The funny thing about Royal is this;

Forget the catches, that kid was open on almost every play last year. (Had to be there to see it)

I see two things with Stokely...

Either he takes a paycut......or he will be cut June 1.

elecshoc
04-11-2009, 05:40 PM
The funny thing about Royal is this;

Forget the catches, that kid was open on almost every play last year. (Had to be there to see it)

I see two things with Stokely...

Either he takes a paycut......or he will be cut June 1.

not sure of that with a possible marshall suspension. Besides I think JG really isn't here to start. Just a possible back up that can play 1 or 2 with royal ready to play slot.

BarkdogRX7
04-11-2009, 08:52 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=396

check it!

I looked at it, I am guessing he was on a one year deal and simply not re-signed or something

Den615
04-11-2009, 09:41 PM
I looked at it, I am guessing he was on a one year deal and simply not re-signed or something

you are correct, i had high hopes for him after the Raider game, but for whatever reason he really vanished after that. Oh well its not a huge loss.

Nate Jackson was the definition of a Shanahan guy and he was cut.

Broncoholic07
04-11-2009, 10:55 PM
Well Id have to say that our 3 recieving core would have to be

1st- Bmarsh
2nd- Stokely
3rd- Gaffney


Royal might have to wait... the kid is good dont get me wrong but Stokely and Gaffney are veterens in this league and have much experience and talent under their belts... Id keep Royal as our punt/kick returner

sorry but no way in hell thats going to happen. and if that was the order it will only last 1 game cuae mcD will realize royal needs to be number 2.

i think its going to stay the same as last year.
1.marshall
2.royal
3.stokley

Kilroy
04-12-2009, 01:23 AM
1) Marshall
2)Gaffney (Md****** did not sign this guy to ride the bench, you are fooling yourself if Mc****** wiil take a 2nd year guy over his NE lapdog)
3) Royal/Stokley (could be a fun fight)

my thoughts,,,,,, and i hope for Denver's sake i am wrong , but Mc****** doesn't seem like the type of guy who gives a rats a$$ about any previous Bronco player

rogue719
04-12-2009, 05:13 AM
don't undersestimate Stokley he is simliar to Welker (they're both 5-10, and white). I'm sure Mcdaniels will believe he has a major use, and for us common folk, maybe he will maybe he won't

Stokely is one of the best slot receivers in the NFL. I don't see him likely to be beat out for the number 3 position this year either.

Syvari
04-12-2009, 03:51 PM
Well Id have to say that our 3 recieving core would have to be

1st- Bmarsh
2nd- Stokely
3rd- Gaffney


Royal might have to wait... the kid is good dont get me wrong but Stokely and Gaffney are veterens in this league and have much experience and talent under their belts... Id keep Royal as our punt/kick returner


i dont agree with you...if royal is more talented than stokley then he will play....experience has nothin to do with it