Official 2010 NBA Playoffs thread!!

[ERoyal248]

Or Maybe Lebron doesnt have a Gasol, Bynum, Artest or Odom.




Just a thought.



What a bunch of pure hatred being spewed over the last couple of pages. Its easy to kick Lebron right now when things are down, but when his career is all said and done the man may be the best thing to ever put sneaks on hardwood.


Im disgusted by the pure hatred, Im not even a Cavs fan, but gimmie a friggin break. Lebron is nothing short of amazing, period.

It's so ridiculous the way people hate LeBron, im a Magic fan and it's amazing how bad Laker fans and all others hate him.. I would love to see Kobe with that team, he would start crying for a trade again. It takes a team to win, not just one player, once they get some better players around him, he'll win plenty of championships..

[LbloodOjunkieG]

Just a quick fact. The Cavs have 4 All-Stars on their team since 08. Lakers have 2.

Nobody is saying LeBron isn't amazing, that can't be argued. When you are a Kobe fan, it's usually enjoyable to see a guy like this fail.

4 all-stars? What 4? Shaq averaged 12 points and 6 boards this year. All-star numbers? Not even close. Mo Williams? He didn't deserve it last year, he only got in because of injuries. Jamison? Ok, I'll give that one to you, even though he didn't show up tonight. Who is the 4th? James?

[Kno-Sean]

That's all LeBron fans can say "just wait! just wait!"

Maybe if he played the way he did when he got there, this year. Things would be different. He was the reason they lost the last 2 games.

And it is so easy to hate a guy who before he even enters the league automatically becomes "The King" and is the poster child of the NBA. SportsCenter hangs on this kids jocks worse than ChargersDivison is on Phillip Rivers.

[ERoyal248]

4 all-stars? What 4? Shaq averaged 12 points and 6 boards this year. All-star numbers? Not even close. Mo Williams? He didn't deserve it last year, he only got in because of injuries. Jamison? Ok, I'll give that one to you, even though he didn't show up tonight. Who is the 4th? James?

All-stars??

Who does he have, im trying to figure this out..

Shaq at age 38 on his last legs..

Mo made it because of injury, very streaky player..

Jamison didnt show up much this series, KG abused him.

[thatkidhunt]

It's so ridiculous the way people hate LeBron, im a Magic fan and it's amazing how bad Laker fans and all others hate him.. I would love to see Kobe with that team, he would start crying for a trade again. It takes a team to win, not just one player, once they get some better players around him, he'll win plenty of championships..

yep


4 all-stars? What 4? Shaq averaged 12 points and 6 boards this year. All-star numbers? Not even close. Mo Williams? He didn't deserve it last year, he only got in because of injuries. Jamison? Ok, I'll give that one to you, even though he didn't show up tonight. Who is the 4th? James?

And yep.

[LbloodOjunkieG]

All-stars??

Who does he have, im trying to figure this out..

Shaq at age 38 on his last legs..

Mo made it because of injury, very streaky player..

Jamison didnt show up much this series, KG abused him.

That is my argument.

[rst08tierney]

All-stars??

Who does he have, im trying to figure this out..

Shaq at age 38 on his last legs..

Mo made it because of injury, very streaky player..

Jamison didnt show up much this series, KG abused him.

Lets just make this simple. Lebron can come to LA and win titles with Kobe

[ERoyal248]

Lets just make this simple. Lebron can come to LA and win titles with Kobe

Nahh, Kobe has a few good years left, let LeBron do it with another team or with the Cavs.

[thatkidhunt]

Lets just make this simple. Lebron can come to LA and win titles with Kobe

Thats alright, the Suns will talk Lebron and all his "choking":rolleyes:

[Kno-Sean]

The Cavs have done everything they could to put a squad together for LeBron. Mo Williams an All-Star PG, Antwaan Jamison a All-Star, 3 7 footers. Sharp Shooters from behind the arc and a lock down defender in Parker.

Mo Williams might be streaky but you can't say he's not a good basketball player.
Shaq is still capable of scoring 20 points on any given night, if he has the touches.
Antwaan Jamison isn't a stud cuz he got beasted by KG? Well then there are a lot of bad players in the league. KG is a man.

I like how the supporting cast argument only comes up when the Cavs fail. During the regular season they are the best team in the league. They have the best record and even were 2-0 vs the Lakers. Why now is it ok to take back all the previous statements after they lose.

What more does LeBron want? Everyone says he needs a supporting cast, well what the heck. He needs another elite super star like Dwayne Wade? Chris Bosh? Both of them? That is a little excessive don't you think. The Pistons never needed any of that...

[Peerless]

The hate for Lebron is ridiculous but sometimes deserved.


I mean c'mon, the guy was throwing up half court shots before the game started. Yes yes, he's just having fun bro! It's what he brings to the game! Who cares! He was already warmed up!


I don't care. In an elimination situation like this, the most important game of the year, I KNOW that he has better things to do to prepare for the game then launching half court shots.


He's the chosen one? Riiight.

[thatkidhunt]

The hate for Lebron is ridiculous but sometimes deserved.


I mean c'mon, the guy was throwing up half court shots before the game started. Yes yes, he's just having fun bro! It's what he brings to the game! Who cares! He was already warmed up!


I don't care. In an elimination situation like this, the most important game of the year, I KNOW that he has better things to do to prepare for the game then launching half court shots.


He's the chosen one? Riiight.

This is something that Lebron does all the time before games. He does this in practice as well, over and over again. That is why you see him hit so many of those quarter/half/game ending shots from pretty much anywhere on the court because he actually does practice those shots, on purpose.

I guess im partial to Lebron for reasons having to do with Ohio and family, but the guy is flat out amazing.

Espn had a "Top 10" of his come from behind (like a bat outta hell) blocks on other players lay-ups/dunks.

I think its easy to point the finger and Lebron right now, the media has nothing better to do. He will eventually win a ship.

[Peerless]

I know he does that all the time. But doing it in an important elimination game like this shows where his immaturity is. You don't see players who are dead set on winning pull this stuff when it's serious go time.

Whether he hits a couple long buzzer beaters or not... Tossing half court shots 20 minutes before an elimination game doesn't show me a guy who has his eyes directly set on an NBA Champion trophy.

[Bronco_Armada]

Or Maybe Lebron doesnt have a Gasol, Bynum, Artest or Odom.







I wish more people would give Fisher more credit.

He is not the biggest name out there at his position. He is not the flashiest, nor will he ever take the ball and control the game like other PGs

But it can be argued quite a bit of success of the Lakers in the past decade can be attributed to Fisher.

Solid defense.
Shoot pretty damn good for the most part.
Takes the big shot when asked
Can stretch the court

Only gripe I have against him is his flopping skills he has, but that is an unfortunate part of the game and many others.

Not to mention he comes of as one of the least jerks on the lakers team other than Gasol

That said, I hate the lakers and hope the Suns win.

[Ohio Broncos]

All-stars??

Who does he have, im trying to figure this out..

Shaq at age 38 on his last legs..

Mo made it because of injury, very streaky player..

Jamison didnt show up much this series, KG abused him.

Put it another way. Who would you rather have? Fisher, Artest, Bynum and Gasol or Williams, Shaq, Jamison and Parker?

There's no contest. It's not even close. We all know who has the better supporting cast here.

[thatkidhunt]

I wish more people would give Fisher more credit.

He is not the biggest name out there at his position. He is not the flashiest, nor will he ever take the ball and control the game like other PGs

But it can be argued quite a bit of success of the Lakers in the past decade can be attributed to Fisher.

Solid defense.
Shoot pretty damn good for the most part.
Takes the big shot when asked
Can stretch the court

Only gripe I have against him is his flopping skills he has, but that is an unfortunate part of the game and many others.

Not to mention he comes of as one of the least jerks on the lakers team other than Gasol

That said, I hate the lakers and hope the Suns win.

Its funny, I had Fisher typed out in that list and then erased it because I felt that people would say he wasnt worth mentioning and I ( like you) think he is.

[thatkidhunt]

I know he does that all the time. But doing it in an important elimination game like this shows where his immaturity is. You don't see players who are dead set on winning pull this stuff when it's serious go time.

Whether he hits a couple long buzzer beaters or not... Tossing half court shots 20 minutes before an elimination game doesn't show me a guy who has his eyes directly set on an NBA Champion trophy.

I hear ya. You may be right.


If I could pick 1 player to start a team it would be Lebron, hands down. Just my opinion, doesnt mean its right.

[Spyder]

People can talk about the supporting cast all they want, but the fact of the matter is this -- It's not Kobe's fault his FO understands the game of basketball. It's not his fault they go out year in and year out and try to find the best pieces to fit in with the program. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. When the regular season was going on, there were MANY people who were putting us down for going and getting Ron Artest claiming that Trevor Ariza was a much better fit as a player for the system we run (triangle offense).

We tried letting Kobe be a one man show when we let Shaq go and it proved to be useless as the West is way too damn good and it doesn't matter if your name is Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Lebron James or Kobe Bryant. You need talent around you.

What has Dwayne Wade done since he lost Shaq? Pretty much next to nothing.

So before anyone blames Kobe or tries to downplay his greatness because of it, remember, it's a FO's job above all else to surround a player with good enough talent to help put that player in the best position to win games, no matter who you are.

[ERoyal248]

Put it another way. Who would you rather have? Fisher, Artest, Bynum and Gasol or Williams, Shaq, Jamison and Parker?

There's no contest. It's not even close. We all know who has the better supporting cast here.

Thats exactly what Laker homers dont understand.. They act like Jamison and Shaq are in there primes.. Jamison is 34 and Shaq is on his last legs.. He's never had a legit #2 option.

[ERoyal248]

People can talk about the supporting cast all they want, but the fact of the matter is this -- It's not Kobe's fault his FO understands the game of basketball. It's not his fault they go out year in and year out and try to find the best pieces to fit in with the program. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. When the regular season was going on, there were MANY people who were putting us down for going and getting Ron Artest claiming that Trevor Ariza was a much better fit as a player for the system we run (triangle offense).

We tried letting Kobe be a one man show when we let Shaq go and it proved to be useless as the West is way too damn good and it doesn't matter if your name is Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Lebron James or Kobe Bryant. You need talent around you.

What has Dwayne Wade done since he lost Shaq? Pretty much next to nothing.

So before anyone blames Kobe or tries to downplay his greatness because of it, remember, it's a FO's job above all else to surround a player with good enough talent to help put that player in the best position to win games, no matter who you are.

I agree 100%, just saying it must help for Kobe to have all those great players around him.. You win as a team, lose as a team, you cant win a title alone.. Should be an interesting summer for LeBron and the rest of the free agents like Bosh, Wade, Amare, Dirk, Joe Johnson.

[CoryWinget81]

People can talk about the supporting cast all they want, but the fact of the matter is this -- It's not Kobe's fault his FO understands the game of basketball. It's not his fault they go out year in and year out and try to find the best pieces to fit in with the program. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. When the regular season was going on, there were MANY people who were putting us down for going and getting Ron Artest claiming that Trevor Ariza was a much better fit as a player for the system we run (triangle offense).

We tried letting Kobe be a one man show when we let Shaq go and it proved to be useless as the West is way too damn good and it doesn't matter if your name is Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Lebron James or Kobe Bryant. You need talent around you.

What has Dwayne Wade done since he lost Shaq? Pretty much next to nothing.

So before anyone blames Kobe or tries to downplay his greatness because of it, remember, it's a FO's job above all else to surround a player with good enough talent to help put that player in the best position to win games, no matter who you are.

Amen.

Case in point...tonight. Lebron, for all intents and purposes may just be the greatest player ever to step foot on the court, or at least have the potential to be, but its all for not if you can't get someone to help him out.

[Ohio Broncos]

Thats exactly what Laker homers dont understand.. They act like Jamison and Shaq are in there primes.. Jamison is 34 and Shaq is on his last legs.. He's never had a legit #2 option.

Magic had Worthy and Kareem. Bird had McHale and Parrish. Isaiah had Dumars and the rest of the Bad Boys. Jordan had Pippen. Kobe had Shaq and then Gasol. Duncan had Parker and Ginobli. LeBron had ???????????

[The Experience]

The Cavs problems do not rely on a supporting staff and especially not coaching. Mike Brown is a great coach. Jamison is a good option on O but is a terrible defender. Mo is streaky but a very good player. They could use a low post defender, but that didnt lose them the series. The fact of the matter is that Lebron needs to get his teammates more involved down the stretch. He tried to do it all himself and the Celtics locked down on him then the TOs started piling up. LeBron is a very very good player, he needs to realize that now he has enough of a supporting cast to be a championship team. This isn't the same team he had 3-4 years ago.

Like it or not, unfortunately for LeBron his legacy as of now is that he is a choker. He lacks the take over the game instinct in big games that Kobe has. So if I am building a franchise, LeBron is undoubtedly the 1st player I take. If I am building a team to win this very year, I undoubtedly take Kobe.

[thatkidhunt]

Lets all just focus on the Suns winning the Championship :D

[ERoyal248]

Magic had Worthy and Kareem. Bird had McHale and Parrish. Isaiah had Dumars and the rest of the Bad Boys. Jordan had Pippen. Kobe had Shaq and then Gasol. Duncan had Parker and Ginobli. LeBron had ???????????

Exactly, you cant do it alone.. LeBron needs a #2 option you can go to like Kobe has Gasol and all those others have.. LeBron had 29 points, 19 rebs, 10 assists, 3 blocks, and a steal, what more do you want from him.. There so called "#2 option" went 2-10, but it's Lebron's fault.. Get off his nuts, he'll go down as one of the greatest of all time whenever it's all said and done as much as you hate him.

[ERoyal248]

Lets all just focus on the Magic winning the Championship :D

Fixed for ya :D

[The Experience]

Exactly, you cant do it alone.. LeBron needs a #2 option you can go to like Kobe has Gasol and all those others have.. LeBron had 29 points, 19 rebs, 10 assists, 3 blocks, and a steal, what more do you want from him.. There so called "#2 option" went 2-10, but it's Lebron's fault.. Get off his nuts, he'll go down as one of the greatest of all time whenever it's all said and done as much as you hate him.

More importantly than just about all of that is 9 TOs. Most of them in crucial times. That is just an observation from someone who has coached the game.

[Atwnbroncfan]

New York, please welcome king james.

[Chillez]

People can talk about the supporting cast all they want, but the fact of the matter is this -- It's not Kobe's fault his FO understands the game of basketball. It's not his fault they go out year in and year out and try to find the best pieces to fit in with the program. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. When the regular season was going on, there were MANY people who were putting us down for going and getting Ron Artest claiming that Trevor Ariza was a much better fit as a player for the system we run (triangle offense).

We tried letting Kobe be a one man show when we let Shaq go and it proved to be useless as the West is way too damn good and it doesn't matter if your name is Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Lebron James or Kobe Bryant. You need talent around you.

What has Dwayne Wade done since he lost Shaq? Pretty much next to nothing.

So before anyone blames Kobe or tries to downplay his greatness because of it, remember, it's a FO's job above all else to surround a player with good enough talent to help put that player in the best position to win games, no matter who you are.

Totaly agree. Kobe will do down the better player than LBJ thats how I feel his career and championships speak for themselves if I had choice between those 2 as rookies I choice Kobe Bryant all day long.. If Lakers go on to win another title this year which I think they will that will be 5 rings for Kobe he will be mentioned in MJ category no doubt about it.

[BluenOrnge4Life]

Amen.

Case in point...tonight. Lebron, for all intents and purposes may just be the greatest player ever to step foot on the court, or at least have the potential to be, but its all for not if you can't get someone to help him out.
Here we go again. MJ > Lebron. It's not even a discussion, but yet many people who probably weren't old enough to watch MJ play like to make the comparison, and until Lebron starts winning championships it's a joke. I don't care who his supporting cast is. Lebron is an amazing player with a ton of potential but please don't make a statement like 'he is the greatest player to ever step foot on the court.' That is MJ, the GOAT. Not Lebron.

[Kno-Sean]

Here we go again. MJ > Lebron. It's not even a discussion, but yet many people who probably weren't old enough to watch MJ play like to make the comparison, and until Lebron starts winning championships it's a joke. I don't care who his supporting cast is. Lebron is an amazing player with a ton of potential but please don't make a statement like 'he is the greatest player to ever step foot on the court.' That is MJ, the GOAT. Not Lebron.

It's because people assume he will win a championship with a "supporting cast". As funny as it sounds people gurantee it. People don't think of the fact that he hasn't won a championship, it's that he hasn't had the "supporting cast" to do it.

It's just an excuse, cuz people "know" he will win one when he gets a "supporting cast"

[#1snake_fan]

gotta love the casual sunday nba fan. I actually think their worse then sunday drivers. Until you realize the NBA is business, you wont understand why the Celtics and the Suns wont meet this year in the NBA finals

Really ? is that the nba has wanted Kobe V. Lebron for the last two years and it hasn't happened yet ?

like i said Celtics V. Suns

[Atwnbroncfan]

Really ? is that the nba has wanted Kobe V. Lebron for the last two years and it hasn't happened yet ?

like i said Celtics V. Suns

Suns are not big enough to beat the Lakers. You have the exact opposite.

Its a rematch of the Lakers Magic this year.

[#1snake_fan]

i think theres a sleeper in the "Lebron watch"

and it's BOSTON

why wouldn't the celtics want him i mean they clearly don't need him but why not ?

[Bronco51]

i think theres a sleeper in the "Lebron watch"

and it's BOSTON

why wouldn't the celtics want him i mean they clearly don't need him but why not ?

The Celtics can't offer a max contract without getting rid of their core which would put him in the exact situation he is in now. Chicago is looking like a nice candidate with some young cheap talent. LeBron, Rose, and Noah could be scary.

[rst08tierney]

The Celtics can't offer a max contract without getting rid of their core which would put him in the exact situation he is in now. Chicago is looking like a nice candidate with some young cheap talent. LeBron, Rose, and Noah could be scary.

The "Max" Lebron can take in 16.7mil a year so anything with any team is possible

[MNBroncs85]

Fixed for ya :D

Magic are not gonna beat the lakers of course and there not gonna beat the suns and they will be lucky to get by the Celts:D

[MNBroncs85]

The "Max" Lebron can take in 16.7mil a year so anything with any team is possible

Or you could be like the lakers and buy another championship. Wouldnt be surprised if lebron went to the lakers:smug:

[PhillyBronco24]

Exactly, you cant do it alone.. LeBron needs a #2 option you can go to like Kobe has Gasol and all those others have.. LeBron had 29 points, 19 rebs, 10 assists, 3 blocks, and a steal, what more do you want from him.. There so called "#2 option" went 2-10, but it's Lebron's fault.. Get off his nuts, he'll go down as one of the greatest of all time whenever it's all said and done as much as you hate him.

I'm pretty sure Mo Williams dropped 22 in game 6. But anyway yea he doesnt really have the greatest team around him. And lebron gets blamed just like how dirk gets blamed for the mavs play in the play offs. They are supposed to be the leaders of their team and if they lose they get the most blame, but then again when they win they also get the most praised. It has its perks being the leader but also its downside.

[Bronco51]

The "Max" Lebron can take in 16.7mil a year so anything with any team is possible

Which is why I said the Celtics would have to dismantle their core to get him. Garnett, Perkins, and Pierce will count 45 million againt the cap with just the three of them. The cap won't be more than 60 million. So in order to get him they will have to trade a good portion of their lineup. Unless the big three elect to take a significant paycut, which I doubt will happen. There are only a few teams I have heard that actually have a financial chance at landing LeBron. Cleveland and Chicago are the only ones that sound like they could offer the cash and the chance to win. We'll see if he wants to win or take the money.

[rst08tierney]

Or you could be like the lakers and buy another championship. Wouldnt be surprised if lebron went to the lakers:smug:

Well, the chances of LBJ coming to LA is VERY slim, but not impossible. The trade that would SEEM to make the most amount of sense for Cleveland would be Bynum, Odom, and Vujacic (plus picks) for James, Verajao, and Gibson. The money matches up, and it gives Cleveland a young center, when healthy is probably the best in the league behind Howard overall, but better on the offensive end. Plus Sasha for Gibson gives the Cavs more flexability with Gibson having 3 years left on his contract compared to Vujacic with only 1. Odom has 2 years left compared to Verajao who has 4 years left on his. So, this trade would give the Cavs a player to build around, and salary flexability in 2 seasons. In the mean time they would have a pretty solid roster in the east.

Bynum
Jamison, Hickson
Odom, Moon
Parker/West*/Vujacic
Williams/Telfair

*There is a good chance the Cavs buy out West's contract to save additional money this summer.

The Lakers would have 3 of the best players in the league on their team.

Gasol/DJ/(MLE)
Verajao/(MLE)
Artest, Walton
Bryant/Brown/Farmer
James, Fisher (resigned @ the vet. minimum)

Plus the MLE to fill in the holes. I would think the Lakers would prefer to keep Odom and trade Artest, but I'm not sure Cleveland would want to go in that direction. Could James play the 1 for the Lakers in the tri?

[thatkidhunt]

Well, the chances of LBJ coming to LA is VERY slim, but not impossible. The trade that would SEEM to make the most amount of sense for Cleveland would be Bynum, Odom, and Vujacic (plus picks) for James, Verajao, and Gibson. The money matches up, and it gives Cleveland a young center, when healthy is probably the best in the league behind Howard overall, but better on the offensive end. Plus Sasha for Gibson gives the Cavs more flexability with Gibson having 3 years left on his contract compared to Vujacic with only 1. Odom has 2 years left compared to Verajao who has 4 years left on his. So, this trade would give the Cavs a player to build around, and salary flexability in 2 seasons. In the mean time they would have a pretty solid roster in the east.

Bynum
Jamison, Hickson
Odom, Moon
Parker/West*/Vujacic
Williams/Telfair

*There is a good chance the Cavs buy out West's contract to save additional money this summer.

The Lakers would have 3 of the best players in the league on their team.

Gasol/DJ/(FA)
Verajao/(FA)
Artest, Walton
Bryant/Brown/Farmer
James, Fisher (resigned @ the vet. minimum)

Plus the MLE to fill in the holes. I would think the Lakers would prefer to keep Odom and trade Artest, but I'm not sure Cleveland would want to go in that direction. Could James play the 1 for the Lakers in the tri?

Though what you said is very well thought out and makes a little sense, this wont happen. Very, very unlikely.

[Spice 1]

Well, the chances of LBJ coming to LA is VERY slim, but not impossible. The trade that would SEEM to make the most amount of sense for Cleveland would be Bynum, Odom, and Vujacic (plus picks) for James, Verajao, and Gibson. The money matches up, and it gives Cleveland a young center, when healthy is probably the best in the league behind Howard overall, but better on the offensive end. Plus Sasha for Gibson gives the Cavs more flexability with Gibson having 3 years left on his contract compared to Vujacic with only 1. Odom has 2 years left compared to Verajao who has 4 years left on his. So, this trade would give the Cavs a player to build around, and salary flexability in 2 seasons. In the mean time they would have a pretty solid roster in the east.

Bynum
Jamison, Hickson
Odom, Moon
Parker/West*/Vujacic
Williams/Telfair

*There is a good chance the Cavs buy out West's contract to save additional money this summer.

The Lakers would have 3 of the best players in the league on their team.

Gasol/DJ/(MLE)
Verajao/(MLE)
Artest, Walton
Bryant/Brown/Farmer
James, Fisher (resigned @ the vet. minimum)

Plus the MLE to fill in the holes. I would think the Lakers would prefer to keep Odom and trade Artest, but I'm not sure Cleveland would want to go in that direction. Could James play the 1 for the Lakers in the tri?

LMAO:goofy::goofy::goofy::goofy:Wade can run the point... Hell, anything's better than Fisher.

How about this: Shaq for Kobe. You can move Bynum to two guard, and after Jackson leaves, Shaq can coach the team. Plus, this allows Walton to move to center (where he belongs). He was awesome for Portland, and I think taking him out of the paint has hurt him tremendously.

[Chillez]

2 hours away until game time.

I cant wait GO LAKERS!!!! :td:

[rst08tierney]

Im just going to keep it classy with the suns fans. Its not a series until the home team loses on their own floor. Good luck in game 2, the lakers are just a match up nightmare for you guys right now.

[Chillez]

Im just going to keep it classy with the suns fans. Its not a series until the home team loses on their own floor. Good luck in game 2, the lakers are just a match up nightmare for you guys right now.

Agreed if LO shows up Lakers are almost impossible to beat. Here to game

2!!:cheers:

[thatkidhunt]

Suns win game 2.





Watch.

[Southstander]

Suns win game 2.





Watch.

I hope so.:salute:

GO SUNS!

[Chillez]

Suns win game 2.





Watch.

We shall see. Robin Lopez played well for you guys though for not playing for

a while.

[milehighireland]

Lakers have never lost a series under Jackson after taking a 1-0 lead haven't they? not liking the look of this tbh, suns are having all the problems they were expected to, cant see them winning a series they opened by taking a 21 point blowout but thats just me...:sad:

[Chillez]

Lakers have never lost a series under Jackson after taking a 1-0 lead haven't they? not liking the look of this tbh, suns are having all the problems they were expected to, cant see them winning a series they opened by taking a 21 point blowout but thats just me...:sad:

Phil Jackson is 45-0 when winning 1st game in playoffs that is including the

series vs OKC. It's pretty crazy to say the least.

[thatkidhunt]

Lakers have never lost a series under Jackson after taking a 1-0 lead haven't they? not liking the look of this tbh, suns are having all the problems they were expected to, cant see them winning a series they opened by taking a 21 point blowout but thats just me...:sad:

Im not to worried about it. The Suns shot the ball poorly from behind the arc and the Lakers couldnt miss from anywhere on the floor. Kobe was on fire, not much you can do about that. Got to win 4. This is just 1 game, a statement game by LA, but just 1 game. Even if we go down 2-0 (isnt that whats supposed to happen??) Im not too worried.

The Suns are like 28-4 in their last 32 games, they will bounce back.

[rst08tierney]

Im not to worried about it. The Suns shot the ball poorly from behind the arc and the Lakers couldnt miss from anywhere on the floor. Kobe was on fire, not much you can do about that. Got to win 4. This is just 1 game, a statement game by LA, but just 1 game. Even if we go down 2-0 (isnt that whats supposed to happen??) Im not too worried.

The Suns are like 28-4 in their last 32 games, they will bounce back.

Phoenix shoot better as the series goes on? They shot 50% today........ok...... Im still going to try and keep it classy with this one since the series is far from over but some suns fans need a wake up call in a major way. (Not just you) Lets look at the entire picture because it must be really tough to be a Suns fan.

Your organization has dedicated themselves to a style of basketball that doesn't win championships. It is a style however, that works during the regular season and without the benefit of focus, preparation and adjustments, can yield a high number of wins. It's a gimmick style. And their fans have been accustomed to a high level of regular season success, 2 MVP awards to their guy and a heap of praise, attention and press. It's fooled them into thinking they can win with small guys, perimeter shooting and no post game. They think their defense is good. They think they can win without a go-to scorer who can create his own shot (Nash doesn't have the personality). They think they can win because Robin Lopez came back from injury. The delusions start pouring in. Its time to wake up. This is not the regular season anymore, its the playoffs.

The Suns have a passionate fan base. Their delusion, however, contributes to their routine failures. If they really cared about winning, fans would demand a departure from this system into something that even vaguely resembles a winning program. Oddly enough, their GM Kerr realized this and started to take the team in a different direction. A winning direction. It's just that their fans and the media weren't ready for what they needed: a true rebuilding process. They tried to do it on the fly with the Shaq trade. Straddle the line, try to have it both ways with the "7 seconds or Shaq" gameplan. So of course, the regular season success dwindled, fans got restless, and Kerr succumbed to going back to what works in the regular season but not in the playoffs.

What Phoenix needs is a full, honest rebuild. Trade Amare and Nash for high picks and start preparing for a team philosophy that actually has a shot at winning.

[Atwnbroncfan]

Im not to worried about it. The Suns shot the ball poorly from behind the arc and the Lakers couldnt miss from anywhere on the floor. Kobe was on fire, not much you can do about that. Got to win 4. This is just 1 game, a statement game by LA, but just 1 game. Even if we go down 2-0 (isnt that whats supposed to happen??) Im not too worried.

The Suns are like 28-4 in their last 32 games, they will bounce back.

If Suns play like last night, this is a sweep. And as I said before living and dying by the 3 is not how you beat the Lakers. The only way the Suns would win this series is if they won game 1.I thought this was done in 6or 7. But now I'd say the Lakers probably will have this in 5.

The Nuggs had a similar run last year bro, and were better suited to be the Lakers because of size and strength. But we couldn't pull it off,to beat the Lakers you MUST get to the line.

[thatkidhunt]

Im still going to try and keep it classy with this one since the series is far from over but some suns fans need a wake up call in a major way. (Not just you) Lets look at the entire picture because it must be really tough to be a Suns fan.

It has been tough being a Suns fan. They are a great team year in and out and always seem to fall short. They were compleltey screwed out of the West Conf Finals a few years ago vs San Antonio on officiating alone (this is a fact, ask Tim Donaghy or David Stern)


Your organization has dedicated themselves to a style of basketball that doesn't win championships. It is a style however, that works during the regular season and without the benefit of focus, preparation and adjustments, can yield a high number of wins. It's a gimmick style.

You dont know that this style of basketball doesnt win championships. The Suns very easily could have won a couple rings if a couple things go their way. This is your opinion, nothing more. You can call it a gimmick all you want but this style of basketball is being imitated all across the league, must be a reason for it no??


And their fans have been accustomed to a high level of regular season success, 2 MVP awards to their guy and a heap of praise, attention and press. It's fooled them into thinking they can win with small guys, perimeter shooting and no post game. They think their defense is good. They think they can win without a go-to scorer who can create his own shot (Nash doesn't have the personality). They think they can win because Robin Lopez came back from injury. The delusions start pouring in. Its time to wake up. This is not the regular season anymore, its the playoffs.

This is easy to say after a 1 game blow out, lotta games left. I could care less if Robin Lopez is playing or not, we were just fine without him. Are you sure you are keeping it "classy" because your entire post is a slap in the face.


Their delusion, however, contributes to their routine failures. If they really cared about winning, fans would demand a departure from this system into something that even vaguely resembles a winning program.

Again, another slap in the face. I think the Suns system vaguely resembles a winning program, maybe im stupid.......:confused:




Oddly enough, their GM Kerr realized this and started to take the team in a different direction. A winning direction. It's just that their fans and the media weren't ready for what they needed: a true rebuilding process. They tried to do it on the fly with the Shaq trade. Straddle the line, try to have it both ways with the "7 seconds or Shaq" gameplan. So of course, the regular season success dwindled, fans got restless, and Kerr succumbed to going back to what works in the regular season but not in the playoffs.

Wow, you couldnt be more wrong. The Suns tried Kerr's rediculous ideas and played his way for a while, and the Suns missed the playoffs for the first time in who knows how long. This is the way the Suns play ball (at least with this group of players) The Style D'Antoni first ran with gives the Suns the best chance to win games whether its playoffs or not.


What Phoenix needs is a full, honest rebuild. Trade Amare and Nash for high picks and start preparing for a team philosophy that actually has a shot at winning

Its 1 game, the Lakers played nearly flawless basketball last night. Nobody missed, while the Suns had a poor shooting night. We dont match up well vs the Lakers, thats obvious, but my confidence isnt shaken.




Thanks for keeping it classy though.

[BluenOrnge4Life]

Im not to worried about it. The Suns shot the ball poorly from behind the arc and the Lakers couldnt miss from anywhere on the floor. Kobe was on fire, not much you can do about that. Got to win 4. This is just 1 game, a statement game by LA, but just 1 game. Even if we go down 2-0 (isnt that whats supposed to happen??) Im not too worried.

The Suns are like 28-4 in their last 32 games, they will bounce back.

Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking to me. It's never a good sign to come out and get your tail kicked in game 1.

[Atwnbroncfan]

Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking to me. It's never a good sign to come out and get your tail kicked in game 1.

Well at least your an optimist. But you should be very worried, you got spanked last night. If suns can't win game 2 its over. (But I already know this series is over)

As you keep saying, come back for your crow.

[thatkidhunt]

Well at least your an optimist. But you should be very worried, you got spanked last night. If suns can't win game 2 its over. (But I already know this series is over)

As you keep saying, come back for your crow.

Im not going anywhere....

[Spyder]

Ayeee yoooo Magic! Whaddup? Haha.

[thatkidhunt]

Props to Boston. Still 3 pts the difference in a game I saw heavily officiated in favor of the Celtics IMO. Some very weak fouls called on Orlando in this game.

[ERoyal248]

Props to Boston. Still 3 pts the difference in a game I saw heavily officiated in favor of the Celtics IMO. Some very weak fouls called on Orlando in this game.

Boston wanted it more and there were some major fouls that went there way.. The Davis flop was one of them, he wasnt even set.. Congrats to Boston, looks like Boston/Lakers.

[PhillyBronco24]

Boston wanted it more and there were some major fouls that went there way.. The Davis flop was one of them, he wasnt even set.. Congrats to Boston, looks like Boston/Lakers.

Your supposed to be a magic fan and your counting them out already? Didnt they come back last year to beat the celitcs from 3-2? Dont come them out so fast, sure it seems like a long shot, but if they can get their game to go on all clyinders they will have a chance to come back from this 2-0 defecit.

[thatkidhunt]

Your supposed to be a magic fan and your counting them out already? Didnt they come back last year to beat the celitcs from 3-2? Dont come them out so fast, sure it seems like a long shot, but if they can get their game to go on all clyinders they will have a chance to come back from this 2-0 defecit.

I agree, got to win 4 of em.

[BRONCOS_OWN_U16]

Boston is getting hot at the right time. And to think i actually thought miami could take them.

I wont lie, i thought Boston was done because they were too old, but they have proven me wrong.

Rondo is becoming the best PG in the NBA.

Celtics Lakers rematch??

[thatkidhunt]

Boston is getting hot at the right time. And to think i actually thought miami could take them.

I wont lie, i thought Boston was done because they were too old, but they have proven me wrong.

Rondo is becoming the best PG in the NBA.
Celtics Lakers rematch??

Man I wish the Suns would have held on to Rondo.

[ERoyal248]

Your supposed to be a magic fan and your counting them out already? Didnt they come back last year to beat the celitcs from 3-2? Dont come them out so fast, sure it seems like a long shot, but if they can get their game to go on all clyinders they will have a chance to come back from this 2-0 defecit.

I'm not essentially counting them out, but if Lewis and Pietrus continue to play like this, we're not winning this series.. They did come down 3-2 last year, it's not over yet, but Orlando has to make some serious adjustments if they want to make this a series.

[milehighireland]

Man I wish the Suns would have held on to Rondo.

He's some player, but don't be too greedy, Suns are pretty set at the PG position anyways.

Cant look past the Cs for the Title (yes, i said it) as things stand, they are absolutely on fire right now.

Hard to see Orlando turning this around, 2-0 is historically a very hard hole to climb out of, never mind when the 2 games you've dropped are in your own house.

[BluenOrnge4Life]

Your supposed to be a magic fan and your counting them out already? Didnt they come back last year to beat the celitcs from 3-2? Dont come them out so fast, sure it seems like a long shot, but if they can get their game to go on all clyinders they will have a chance to come back from this 2-0 defecit. That was without KG because he was hurt, and before the addition of Rasheed Wallace through free agency. Rondo is also playing on a level this postseason that we've never see him play on before. The Magic just went down 2-0 AT HOME. This series is as good as over.

[Spice 1]

I'm not essentially counting them out, but if Lewis and Pietrus continue to play like this, we're not winning this series..

When the jump shot isn't there, you have to find another way to get it done. Lewis is big enough, and Pietrus is athletic enough that they can still make big contributions. Their jumpers have spoiled them. I know I shouldn't have to say this to you, as a Magic fan, but it's clear that Van Gundy doesn't quite get it. With two minutes left in the game, you have no option, you must run the offense through Howard. Why is VC running this team in the clutch? And, why is Jameer Nelson doing whatever the hell he wants? He's the PG, run the offense. This is why I don't think that Carter makes Orlando a better team than Hedo did. Carter takes a lot of bad shots, he's a confident, streaky shooter so he can make them at times, but he's not Kobe Bryant. Dwight Howard is seven feet plus, has a forty inch plus vertical, and bench presses three hundred plus pounds. He's standing four feet from the hoop, NO shot he puts up is a bad shot. It's painful to watch Carter shoot a base line fade away on the move, while Howard is standing in the paint.

I wanted to point something out, because I think there may be some confusion after watching last nights game. If the player with the ball picks up his dribble, and begins to enter his shooting motion, you CAN NOT run underneath him and draw a charge. Contrary to what you may have seen.

[Kno-Sean]

When the jump shot isn't there, you have to find another way to get it done. Lewis is big enough, and Pietrus is athletic enough that they can still make big contributions. Their jumpers have spoiled them. I know I shouldn't have to say this to you, as a Magic fan, but it's clear that Van Gundy doesn't quite get it. With two minutes left in the game, you have no option, you must run the offense through Howard. Why is VC running this team in the clutch? And, why is Jameer Nelson doing whatever the hell he wants? He's the PG, run the offense. This is why I don't think that Carter makes Orlando a better team than Hedo did. Carter takes a lot of bad shots, he's a confident, streaky shooter so he can make them at times, but he's not Kobe Bryant. Dwight Howard is seven feet plus, has a forty inch plus vertical, and bench presses three hundred plus pounds. He's standing four feet from the hoop, NO shot he puts up is a bad shot. It's painful to watch Carter shoot a base line fade away on the move, while Howard is standing in the paint.

I wanted to point something out, because I think there may be some confusion after watching last nights game. If the player with the ball picks up his dribble, and begins to enter his shooting motion, you CAN NOT run underneath him and draw a charge. Contrary to what you may have seen.

Agreed that was a bad call. Big Baby did slide under JJ that was a blocking foul. Unlike everyone else tho, i don't believe it was a foul that the refs were trying to "Fix" the game with.

The "Illegal Screen" on Kendrick Perkins, the one that knocked him out of the game, was definitely a bad call as well, one that took 3 points off the board for the Celtics cuz Ray Allen hit a 3 off that perfectly legal screen

[Broncoholic JS]

Come on Boston!! I wish Ray Allen had the ball at the end of the 4th there. Guy has game! LOL

[Broncoholic JS]

I love you Ray Allen, wish you were on the Denver Nuggets!!

[Broncoholic JS]

Darn it! LOL

[Chillez]

Darn it! LOL

It's okay the Magic aren't coming back into this series anyways.

[ERoyal248]

It's okay the Magic aren't coming back into this series anyways.

May not, but if we win Game 5, things get very very interesting.. One game at a time, go from there and see what happens.

[Chillez]

May not, but if we win Game 5, things get very very interesting.. One game at a time, go from there and see what happens.

Yeah Magic have small chance of coming back 3-1. I read some stat teams are 0-93 when down 3-0 in a series not a good sign if you ask me. Those are some big odds there.

[rst08tierney]

Thankyou Orlando!!! The money line was +300 last night!!!! :peace:

[ParkHill-71]

May not, but if we win Game 5, things get very very interesting.. One game at a time, go from there and see what happens.

Hey, just noticed your from Willimington....That's classic. I lived out there for about a year and a half in 2000..... Still have a homeboy out there who is trying to get back to Denver...


Liked that place alot. Nice beach, nice people.....loved the trips to Sout Carolina for Biker fest back then...:salute:

[thatkidhunt]

Thankyou Orlando!!! The money line was +300 last night!!!! :peace:

Bet you were crappin yourself when Pierce had it on the last poesession. Good thing he coughed it up and Orlando won in OT. I took it as well, figured they had to get at least 1.

[PhillyBronco24]

Yeah Magic have small chance of coming back 3-1. I read some stat teams are 0-93 when down 3-0 in a series not a good sign if you ask me. Those are some big odds there.

If anything those stats should be some what scary, theres a first for everything bound to happen sooner or later.

[ERoyal248]

Good win, very good overall game, Boston has some key injuries, should of closed it out in Game 4 ..

Lets go Magic, time to make history..

[thatkidhunt]

Good win, very good overall game, Boston has some key injuries, should of closed it out in Game 4 ..

Lets go Magic, time to make history..

No Perkins in game 6?? Boston looks beat up. Orlando very could make history right here. That would be sweet.




Magic vs Suns:rockon:

[Broncoholic JS]

Go Celtics and Go Suns!! Then I don't care because I like both of those teams. Just anyone but Los Angeles. I have nothing against Orlando, but want to see Ray Allen and the Cs get another shot at the finals. Suns as champions wouldn't make me mad one bit. Basically, anyone but the Lakers. Please! LOL

[ERoyal248]

No Perkins in game 6?? Boston looks beat up. Orlando very could make history right here. That would be sweet.




Magic vs Suns:rockon:

Perkins will play in Game 6, both of those were bad calls, if he doesnt, wow, he's one of the few players who can guard Dwight 1 on 1.

I agree..

Magic vs Suns :salute!:

[PhillyBronco24]

Perkins will play in Game 6, both of those were bad calls, if he doesnt, wow, he's one of the few players who can guard Dwight 1 on 1.

I agree..

Magic vs Suns :salute!:

The NBA should have fun marketing that final lol.

[Chillez]

Come on Lakers let's win this game tomorrow. If Lakers win tomorrow I think series is more than likely over since Game 7 will be in LA. But Game 5 will be a huge test I expect a war...

[ERoyal248]

Congrats to Boston, good luck in the Finals.

[BRONCOS_OWN_U16]

maybe next year for the magic.