Soccer Champions League

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

I'm opening up a thread on this board for the 5 people who like soccer.
The first Pool stage of the Champions League has been completed.
Biggest suprises....Real Madrid loses 3-0 to Bayern Leverkusen.
Roma match cancelled about half way through because ref was hit in the head with a lighter.

Please, i'm asking nicely...don't come in here just to say that you think soccer sucks. if you wanna do that, start a seperate thread or something. Thanks.:)

[Booher]

madrid imo is the equilivent to the yankees..........so many damn superstars.....I never get to watch the games they come on fox sports world on sat afternoon and I work mandatory ot every freaking saturday .......:fight:

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Yea, definitely Madrid is just stacked.
It's ridiculous the guys they have.
Zidane was injured, expected to be out about 3 weeks.

[Booher]

I miss watching the games however if i could I don't know how my wife would feel about me watching soccer all saturday and football all sunday.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

every week that champions league games are played, espn usually airs one of the better games (usually one of the two teams playing is either Real Madrid, Man U, Juve, Arsenal, etc.)
and all those champion league games are on tuesday and wednesday so they don't interfere with league matches.
They are showed live, so they are on at liek 2:30 our time on a tuesday or wednesday afternoon....are you at work by that time (i think you are...2-12 shift or something like that, right?)

[Booher]

yep working then.........

[frenchfan]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
I'm opening up a thread on this board for the 5 people who like soccer.
The first Pool stage of the Champions League has been completed.
Biggest suprises....Real Madrid loses 3-0 to Bayern Leverkusen.
Roma match cancelled about half way through because ref was hit in the head with a lighter.

Please, i'm asking nicely...don't come in here just to say that you think soccer sucks. if you wanna do that, start a seperate thread or something. Thanks.:) Well, the defeat of Madrid was not a real surprise. They don't have any defense ! It's like the Quiefs : great offense but nothing about "D"... and historically, Real always had troubles against german teams. But 3-0 is the surprise.
Yep, Zizou is out for 3 weeks (according to the lastest news).
French teams were not good... PSG was awful, Monaco was pityful against Liverpool... They didn't play... Lyon made a great game against Manchester and should have won... But Van Nystelroy was there and crushed Lyon... Too bad, but if they go on playing like that, there's hope for them.
The Roma affair is horrible.. I think they are in serious troubles. First I guess they will lose the game against Kiev and may be they can be excluded from all european cups ! We will know that tomorrow... I will inform you if you are interested.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Ukranian officials are demanding that Dynamo Kiev be giving points for the game against Roma that they were leading 1-0 at the time of postponement/cancellation whatever you wanna call it.

[welshbronco]

David Beckham got dropped over the weekend for the spanish league match. About time too he has been poor for club and country for ages. Michael Owen not looking too promising either. Liverpool is well rid of him. Liverpool rocked in the Champions League against Monaco. Go go!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

glad to see some more soccer...er, football fans on here!:D

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

I thought this was pretty good.
Diego Maradona is saying Arsenal is the best team in Europe right now.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=310738&cc=5739

[Booher]

Doesn't look good for me NJ........Mandatory ot for the next 6 weeks.....no soccer on saturday... however I am taking off a day midweek in october to go to the usa mens qualifier in washington DC

[Booher]

[i]
Please, i'm asking nicely...don't come in here just to say that you think soccer sucks. if you wanna do that, start a seperate thread or something. Thanks.:) [/B]

[Uula Bear]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
I'm opening up a thread on this board for the 5 people who like soccer.
The first Pool stage of the Champions League has been completed.
Biggest suprises....Real Madrid loses 3-0 to Bayern Leverkusen.
Roma match cancelled about half way through because ref was hit in the head with a lighter.

Please, i'm asking nicely...don't come in here just to say that you think soccer sucks. if you wanna do that, start a seperate thread or something. Thanks.:)

soccer sucks...













hehe j/k.
My daughter loves soccer and I wanna learn more about it. I watched the USA woman win the gold and that's about the extent of my soccer viewing. So on Tue & Wed @ 14:30edt. I see Booher said soccer all day Saturday, do you know of any other day & times it's usually on? I wanna learn the rules & such before she comes and lives with my in June.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

well, there really aren't all too many rules to soccer.
Yellow and red cards are handed out by the refs for more serious infractions.
Two yellow cards in one game equals an ejection, while one red card serves the same purpose.
I think offsides is the trickiest rule to comprehend...well, not really, but i think it's hardest to explain in words on the comp.
Maybe someone else will give it a try?

[twotone]

offsides in soccer is the trickiest thing to explain no matter how you try. once you get it though, it's really not that complex. i'd try but it'd all come out as drivel...

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

yea, it's really not complicated at all, just hard to put into words...much easier to explain while watching a soccer game live or on t.v. with the person your trying to explain it to.

[twotone]

say, is Ole Gunnar Solksjaer still around for Man U? I used to pay a lot of attention to soccer, but not so much anymore. I don't have ESPN or FSW so I never get to see any games.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Yup...he's still on the team.
I don't get to watch much soccer either. We have an italian channel that shows one game every sunday afternoon...otherwise, i don't get to watch much either.
September 28th on espn or espn2 at 2:30 real madrid vs. roma...
that's the next game i'll be able to watch, but it should be a good one.

[Booher]

even is on

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/3661010.stm
Dynamo were awarded a 3-0 victory after last weeks incident.
Roma has also been ordered to play their next two european matches behind closed doors....does anybody know what the hell that means? No fans allowed?

[welshbronco]

What do u think of Camacho getting the boot after just 3 months as Real Madrid's manager. Some say Sven Goran Eriksson's in line for the job. Hope he goes before the England v Wales world cup qualifying game - anything that throws the english off balance I'm all for! Go Wales

[welshbronco]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
I thought this was pretty good.
Diego Maradona is saying Arsenal is the best team in Europe right now.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=310738&cc=5739

Arsenal really are an excellent team in the English Premiership. They're way above Man Utd in recent times. They're now unbeaten for more than 40 games and really know how to play the beautiful game. But their record in the Champions League has been dismal. Until they crack that they can't possibly be called the best in Europe.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by welshbronco
What do u think of Camacho getting the boot after just 3 months as Real Madrid's manager. Some say Sven Goran Eriksson's in line for the job. Hope he goes before the England v Wales world cup qualifying game - anything that throws the english off balance I'm all for! Go Wales
well, i think camacho quit...and the bbc is reporting that Eriksson has not even been contacted...i think at this point it is all speculation, but only a few people know for sure.

[frenchfan]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/3661010.stm
Dynamo were awarded a 3-0 victory after last weeks incident.
Roma has also been ordered to play their next two european matches behind closed doors....does anybody know what the hell that means? No fans allowed? Yep... No public for these games... But I think Roma is lucky... UEFA was nice with Roma... Don't you think so ?

[frenchfan]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
well, i think camacho quit...and the bbc is reporting that Eriksson has not even been contacted...i think at this point it is all speculation, but only a few people know for sure. Ericksson said he won't go to Real... But may be some $ would change his mind ? :D
Currently, it's "no"...
Real is paying its lats years recruitment : too many stars but no "team player"... All for offense, but no defense (the defender they take is currently out for some weeks)... Zidane, Ronaldo, Owens, Bechkam, Figo, Raul are all great players, but if you don't give them the ball, what can they do ? Plus, if you take more goals than you score, how can you win ? But I have to say Real is great to watch because there will always be many goals in the game ;) :D

[frenchfan]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
well, there really aren't all too many rules to soccer.
Yellow and red cards are handed out by the refs for more serious infractions.
Two yellow cards in one game equals an ejection, while one red card serves the same purpose.
I think offsides is the trickiest rule to comprehend...well, not really, but i think it's hardest to explain in words on the comp.
Maybe someone else will give it a try? I will try :
You're offside only if you are in the part of the field of the other team and if you're behind the latest defender before the pass is kicking (the goalkeeper doesn't count). You have to imagine a virtual line made by the lastest defender on the field (like the goalline in football). If one of your player is behind this line BEFORE (it's important) the pass is kicking, he is offsides... Does that help ?
But it's a little more complicated than that : you are offsides if the pass was kicked towards you according the offsides rule, but you can also be offsides if the pass is not kicked towards you if the referee thinks you have an influence on the play. We call that "positional offsides"...
Well, I think it's really hard to explain without any examples...

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

:goofy:

[frenchfan]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
:goofy: need some aspirin now ? :laugh:

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Woohoo....Real vs Roma...it's on t.v. here tomorrow afternoon at 2:30!:)

[frenchfan]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
Woohoo....Real vs Roma...it's on t.v. here tomorrow afternoon at 2:30!:) Real is on serious troubles !!! They lost again saturday (2-1)... Their D is awful .. They are the Quiefs of the Champions League !!!!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Yes, but i am happy just to see a match.
Plus, real has a poor defense as well, no?
maybe there will be some scoring in this match then?
totti=5 goals!:laugh:

[frenchfan]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
Yes, but i am happy just to see a match.
Plus, real has a poor defense as well, no?
maybe there will be some scoring in this match then?
totti=5 goals!:laugh: Yep, I meant in my last reply that Real was like Quiefs : good O (if they have the ball) and no D !
IDK if Totti will score 5 goals, but sure I think there will be some scoring in the game !!! :D
I'm happy you can see at least a game ;)
What's your pick about Porto vs Chelsea ? And about Bayern Munich vs Ajax ?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

i don't really know...but those are both good matches.
Who cares about Ajax vs. Bayern when in the same group there is Juve vs. Maccabi Tel Aviv;) :laugh:
I pick Chelsea...Ajax and Bayern draw.
what do you think?

[frenchfan]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
i don't really know...but those are both good matches.
Who cares about Ajax vs. Bayern when in the same group there is Juve vs. Maccabi Tel Aviv;) :laugh:
I pick Chelsea...Ajax and Bayern draw.
what do you think? At home, I think Chelsea will do it. And then I will pick Ajax.. Oh.. wait.. .I think the game is at Munich... May be a tie so...
Juve !!! Juve !!! Juve !!! :D
(I guess you are surprised to hear that from me... LOL... I like Juve and I hoep Trezeguet will score !)

[welshbronco]

Looking forward to both matches. Porto v Chelsea should be interesting with Chelsea's Mourinho (sp?) going against his former club. Personally I wouldn't mind too much if Chelsea got beat. Mourinho is really starting to get on everyone's nerves + they have way too much money to spend . He is SO arrogant and needs to lighten up. Roma v Real is intriguing. Haven't Roma just lost their manager too?
As a Liverpool supporter I'm also looking forward to their match against Olympiakos. I think finally they are showing some signs of improvent under Benitez's guidance (good riddance Gerrard Houllier) The new Spanish signings Alonso and Luis Garcia are beginning to make a difference.
Hope Arsenal do well too. They are now 47 games unbeaten - I think:)

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

keep it up you two...i love to watch soccer, but unfortunately, living in the U.S. i get some news, but not nearly as much as you two know!

[welshbronco]

Wow! What a debut for the kid Wayne Rooney. 2 goals and the 1st half isn't over yet. Mind u with a price tag of £27 million he'll need to score a few more to justify his signing.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

I forgot, the matches are on right now!
Forza Roma!:D
Up 2-1 at Bernabeu!

[welshbronco]

go switch the tv on NJ. Real r down. 2-0 last time I saw

[welshbronco]

2-1 sorry

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

oh welsh...i'm at work :( , but i'm taping the game...
the internet says 2-1 roma.
Raul scored in the 38th minute.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by welshbronco
2-1 sorry
It's ok! nothing to apoligize about! your just trying to help me out!:)

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Frenchie will be very happy...Monaco has won 2-0 against Deportivo, and Lyon has won as well!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by welshbronco
Wow! What a debut for the kid Wayne Rooney. 2 goals and the 1st half isn't over yet. Mind u with a price tag of £27 million he'll need to score a few more to justify his signing.

Well, he scores again! 3 for Rooney now.
and damn it, Figo scores to tie up real and roma 2-2.:(

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT!
it's 4-2 Madrid and this match is certainly over now.

[welshbronco]

Yeah - unbeliavable how Real came back. I didn't think they had it in them - showing some spirit for once. Damn Liverpool lost too. Really dull game

[Den21-Bal19]

Originally posted by welshbronco
Yeah - unbeliavable how Real came back. I didn't think they had it in them - showing some spirit for once. Damn Liverpool lost too. Really dull game

Dull doesn't begin to cover it, I was really hoping for at least a draw. At least Deportivo lost to Monaco, unless they conjure up a comeback of Elway-ian proportions they're pretty well out of it. The annoying thing was that olympiakos didn't really threaten that much, we just looked like QG on Sunday night!

[frenchfan]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
Frenchie will be very happy...Monaco has won 2-0 against Deportivo, and Lyon has won as well! :jump:
French teams did a good job yesterday !!! 2 victories !!! Real made an incredible comeback and Bayern destroyed Ajax at Munich (4-0) !!! F***ing Liverpool lost its game (no offense, I like the Reds, but I'm so disapointed now) !!! Damn, *** with them ??? Seems like the Greeks knows how to play soccer now :(... It's not a good news for Monaco...

JUve won (1-0)... And the Red Devils (Manchester United) won 6-2... (Was it a Tennis game ??? LOL).

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by frenchfan
And the Red Devils (Manchester United) won 6-2... (Was it a Tennis game ??? LOL).
:laugh:

[frenchfan]

New update... A very bad day (again) for PAris (PSG)... They looked awful again... Just imagine the Quiefs D with the current 49ers O ... What could you do with that team ??? LOL

Arsenal tied the game at Rosenborg. Milan AC and Barcelone impressed me again...

And oh... Chelsea won 3-1 in the "monday night" (:D) game...

ps : NJie ... Inter won 3-1 at Anderlecht... Are you happy ?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Well, I'm most happy with the Juve win....in the Champions League I am happy that both Inter and Milan won!
Is it just me, or were there quite a few goals scored this week in the champs league?

[finbronco]

Just found this thread and it´s fun to talk with us soccer fans. What clubs people support here? i´m a tottenham fan but in champions league it is ManU or both milans clubs.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Well, frenchie and welsh are from europe as well.
I'm a big Juventus fan (my fathers side of my family all reside in torino), but in the champs league i root for all the serie A teams!

[Den21-Bal19]

I'm with Welsh, Liverpool fan since '77. I'll watch most teams though, 'cept Manure, to Kopites they're like the Faiders to the Broncos!

[Booher]

what games are on today nj?

[Den21-Bal19]

Originally posted by Booher
what games are on today nj?

If you mean Champions League, next match dates are 19th & 20th October.

Otherwise there is a full domestic schedule this weekend, followed by a 'double header' International break for European World Cup Qualifiers, playing next Saturday & Wednesday.

[Booher]

I see damn I get a saturday off and notta is going on.....yea i'm taking a day off work in october me and the wife are going to the usa/panama world cup qualifier in washington dc.:D

[Den21-Bal19]

Forgive my ignorance, but how is qualification going for the US? You were seriously impressive in Japorea, and it scares me what you lot could do maybe 10 years down the line, if & when you start to take soccer seriously.

We've got the little matter of a qualification derby next week, England play Wales for the first time since I dunno when.

I'm just watching the highlights of today's English Premiership matches, if you get a chance you've got to see Thierry Henry's 1st goal against Charlton. It's the most impudent, cheeky goal I've seen in ages, I want to loathe Henry, but the bloke's from a different planet at the moment. Arsenal are now unbeaten in 48 league games, stretching back to 2003! Thankfully, they're still
$h!t in Europe, otherwise they would be seriously annoying.

[Booher]

usa is in control of their group......in the first round of qualification.:D

[welshbronco]

Originally posted by Den21-Bal19
I'm with Welsh, Liverpool fan since '77. I'll watch most teams though, 'cept Manure, to Kopites they're like the Faiders to the Broncos!
"Manure"! I love that Den21! Why oh why did Rooney have to recover from his injury right now? Couldn't he have waited a few more weeks - at least until the England v Wales game is over!

[Den21-Bal19]

Originally posted by Booher
usa is in control of their group......in the first round of qualification.:D

That's right, to figure out your qualifiers you need a degree in rocket science :confused:. Probably be yourselves & Mexico again I take it?

[Den21-Bal19]

Originally posted by welshbronco
"Manure"! I love that Den21! Why oh why did Rooney have to recover from his injury right now? Couldn't he have waited a few more weeks - at least until the England v Wales game is over!

At least he didn't recover in time to add to the Monday Night debacle the other week! To be honest though, he's a great talent, but I'm not sure about his mentality, he could just as easily become the new Gazza as the new Pele. BTW, when was the last time England & Wales played a meaningful match?

[Booher]

Originally posted by Den21-Bal19
That's right, to figure out your qualifiers you need a degree in rocket science :confused:. Probably be yourselves & Mexico again I take it? and one other usually costa rica although panama has been playing good lately ....now there are 3 automatic qualifiers for the world cup...and one who has to play another nation for another region ( I beleive it's an african region I'm not sure though)for the chance to get in.........If usa qualifies(i'm sure they will) I am going to germany for their matches.......:D saving the loot for it now.....I'm just stoked I finally got fox sports world.....now I get tons more soccer games.including internationals.

[Den21-Bal19]

Anyone watching the Chamions League tonight? Currently Half time, scores are:

Ajax 3-0 Maccabi Tel Aviv
Juventus 0-0 Bayern Munich
Liverpool 0-0 Deportivo La Coruna
Monaco 2-0 Olympiakos
Fenerbahce 0-0 Lyon
Sparta Prague 0-0 Man Utd
Bayer Leverkusen 0-1 Roma
Real Madrid 1-0 Dinamo Kiev .

Watching the Liverpool game, Monaco are sounding very strong at home & Owen' sscored his first goal for Real Madrid.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

DAMN IT! Roma has given up their lead, it's now 1-1.

[Den21-Bal19]

Fairly quiet night so far as goals go, half the games goalless, plus your's at 1-1.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by Den21-Bal19
Fairly quiet night so far as goals go, half the games goalless, plus your's at 1-1.
Well, the real game im interested in is Juve...they are without a doubt my team, but in these stages, I root for all Serie A teams.

[Den21-Bal19]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
Well, the real game im interested in is Juve...they are without a doubt my team, but in these stages, I root for all Serie A teams.

Slightly different for me, I'm a 'Pool fan through and through, I don' t mind the Gunners (Arsenal) but I've got to admit that I really love to see Manure ('Pools version of the Faiders) and Chelsea (maybe the Redskin's moneybags approach) fall flat on the faces.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Roma got knocked around but at least Juve won.

[Den21-Bal19]

Not a bad night for your guys, NJ, a thumping by Inter and a professional job by AC. Final Scores for this evening's games:

Anderlecht 1-2 Werder Bremen
Valencia 1-5 Inter Milan
Panathinaikos 2-2 Arsenal
Rosenborg 1-2 PSV
AC Milan 1-0 Barcelona
Shakhtar Donetsk 3-0 Celtic
Chelsea 2-0 CSKA Moscow
PSG 2-0 Porto

Current Standings:

UEFA Champions League Group A Table
Wed Oct 20

P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Monaco 3 2 0 1 4 3 1 6
2 Olympiakos 3 1 1 1 2 2 0 4
3 Liverpool 3 1 1 1 2 1 1 4
4 D_Coruna 3 0 2 1 0 2 -2 2


UEFA Champions League Group B Table
Wed Oct 20

P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Dynamo_Kiev 3 2 0 1 7 3 4 6
2 Bayer_Leverkusen 3 2 0 1 8 5 3 6
3 Real_Madrid 3 2 0 1 5 5 0 6
4 Roma 3 0 0 3 3 10 -7 0


UEFA Champions League Group C Table
Wed Oct 20

P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Juventus 3 3 0 0 3 0 3 9
2 Bayern_Munich 3 2 0 1 5 1 4 6
3 Ajax 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
4 Maccabi_Tel_Aviv 3 0 0 3 0 5 -5 0


UEFA Champions League Group D Table
Wed Oct 20

P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Lyon 3 2 1 0 7 4 3 7
2 Man Utd 3 1 2 0 8 4 4 5
3 Fenerbahce 3 1 0 2 4 9 -5 3
4 Sparta_Prague 3 0 1 2 1 3 -2 1


UEFA Champions League Group E Table
Wed Oct 20

P W D L F A GD PTS
1 PSV 3 2 0 1 3 2 1 6
2 Arsenal 3 1 2 0 4 3 1 5
3 Panathinaikos 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 4
4 Rosenborg 3 0 1 2 3 5 -2 1


UEFA Champions League Group F Table
Wed Oct 20

P W D L F A GD PTS
1 AC_Milan 3 3 0 0 5 1 4 9
2 Barcelona 3 2 0 1 6 2 4 6
3 Shakhtar_Donetsk 3 1 0 2 3 4 -1 3
4 Celtic 3 0 0 3 2 9 -7 0


UEFA Champions League Group * Table
Wed Oct 20

P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Inter_Milan 3 3 0 0 10 2 8 9
2 Werder_Bremen 3 2 0 1 4 4 0 6
3 Valencia 3 1 0 2 4 7 -3 3
4 Anderlecht 3 0 0 3 2 7 -5 0


UEFA Champions League Group H Table
Wed Oct 20

P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Chelsea 3 3 0 0 8 1 7 9
2 CSKA_Moscow 3 1 1 1 2 2 0 4
3 PSG 3 1 0 2 2 5 -3 3
4 FC_Porto 3 0 1 2 1 5 -4 1

I'd say that both the Milan sides are as good as through to the knockout stages, along with Juve. Roma are going to have a real stuggle though, having to win their remaining games and needing other results to go in their favour.

Next round of matches in a fortnight.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by Den21-Bal19


I'd say that both the Milan sides are as good as through to the knockout stages, along with Juve. Roma are going to have a real stuggle though, having to win their remaining games and needing other results to go in their favour.

Next round of matches in a fortnight.
I was going to say the same exact thing...it does not look good for Roma, but the other three are getting the job done.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

so, to you, what are the biggest suprises?
I thought depor. would show stronger than this.
Porto is a bit of a suprise considering their success last year IMO.
Group 2 is also a suprise to me. Roma at the bottom with 0 points, Kiev on top because of goal differential.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

The latest matches have been completed!

Final CSKA Moscow 0-1 Chelsea
Lokomotiv Stadium
Final Arsenal 1-1 Panathinaikos
Highbury
Final Barcelona 2-1 AC Milan
Camp Nou
Final Celtic 1-0 Shakhtar Donetsk
Celtic Park
Final FC Porto 0-0 PSG
Estadio do Dragao
Final Inter Milan 0-0 Valencia
San Siro
Final PSV Eindhoven 1-0 Rosenborg
Philipsstadion
Final Werder Bremen 5-1 Anderlecht
Weserstadion

AC Milan lost in what I heard was a fantastic match! I wish I could see it :(
Inter pulled out only a draw at home, but looks good for them regardless.

Chelsea in to the next round and Juve has a chance to do the same tomorrow.
Forza Juve!!! :beer:

[Den21-Bal19]

I'd not really seen any of tonight's results, the old PC's giving me a hard time, so I've only really been listening to the Arsenal game on the radio. Just hope that my boys can do a job on Deportivo tomorrow night.

[Lynch Bailey247]

Gooo Juventus!

[welshbronco]

I'd not really seen any of tonight's results, the old PC's giving me a hard time, so I've only really been listening to the Arsenal game on the radio. Just hope that my boys can do a job on Deportivo tomorrow night.
Yup! Let's hope Liverpool can do the biz tonight - especially after Djibril Cisse's horrible injury over the weekend. Did u see his shin snap in half - sickening! They'll have to play a lot better to get a result tonight though. Yet again Arsenal slip up after taking the lead and finish with a draw - what is it with them and the Champions League? They are not the same team at all in Europe as they are domestically!

[Den21-Bal19]

Yup! Let's hope Liverpool can do the biz tonight - especially after Djibril Cisse's horrible injury over the weekend. Did u see his shin snap in half - sickening! They'll have to play a lot better to get a result tonight though. Yet again Arsenal slip up after taking the lead and finish with a draw - what is it with them and the Champions League? They are not the same team at all in Europe as they are domestically!

That has to be the worst break I've seen since Tim Krumrie did his leg in the turf against the 49ers in the SB. I've seen somewhere that it's going to be at least two months before they can put any sort of timescale on his recovery and maybe & 10% chance that it's a career ender. I think the key tonight has to be not losing the game, a draw won't be a bad result.

Our team tonight is: Kirkland, Josemi, Carra, Traore, Garcia, Biscan, Hamman, Riise, Kewell & Baros. At least Rafa's gotten past his fixation with Diao. Alonso is on the bench, nursing a strained thigh.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Boo to Liverpool! :cheeky:
Tonight Juve will wrap it up! Forza Juve! :cheers:

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

However, liverpool and Man U. are up 1-0 at the time.
Real Madrid is losing to Kiev.

[Den21-Bal19]

Early goals:

Yussef after 13 minutes to put Dynamo Kiev 1-0 up on Real,
Van Nistelroy after 14 minutes to put Manure 1-0 up on Sparta Prague,
Sahin in the 14th to put Fenerbache in front over Lyon
& and Andrade og to put the Mighty Reds 1-0 up over Deportivo. :D

[Lynch Bailey247]

Boo to Liverpool! :cheeky:
Tonight Juve will wrap it up! Forza Juve! :cheers:
GOOOOOOOOOOO JUVE!

[Den21-Bal19]

GOOOOOOOOOOO JUVE!

I seem to be detecting an Italian bias around here.

Best of luck, until you play us!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

So, is Kiev as big a suprise to you as they are to me?

In a group with Roma, Real Madrid, and Leverkusen, they are on top!
If they win today, they're in the drivers seat in that group. (up 1-0 right now)

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Kiev and man. U. are both up 2-0 now!

[Den21-Bal19]

Kiev and man. U. are both up 2-0 now!

Kiev are going great guns at the moment, and are a pretty suprising package. I wonder if the weather is having anything to do with it. The Moscow - Chelsea game last night started 2 1/4 hours before the rest for that reason.

Could have done without the Manure score though!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Could have done without the Manure score though!
I know! That's why I had to post it! :laugh:

[Den21-Bal19]

I know! That's why I had to post it! :laugh:

Looks like your boys are playing the usual boring Italian game, trying to nick a goal from somewhere :D

Real have just pulled one back, Raul.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Looks like your boys are playing the usual boring Italian game, trying to nick a goal from somewhere :D

Real have just pulled one back, Raul.
Hey now! :smug:





:D

[Den21-Bal19]

Halftimes from Gameday 4:

Bayern Munich 0 - 0
Juventus HT


Bookings:
M Camoranesi 28




D Coruna 0 - 1
Liverpool HT
JM Andrade o.g. 14


Bookings:
MV Cesar 37




Dynamo Kiev 2 - 2
Real Madrid HT
A Yussuf 13
M Verpakovskis 23
GB Raul 37
L Figo (pen) 44

Damned Real equalising on the stroke of half time



Lyon 1 - 1
Fenerbahce HT
M Essien 22
S Sahin 14


Bookings:
S Cetin 9
S Balci 38




Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 - 0
Ajax HT



Man Utd 2 - 0
Sparta Prague HT
R van Nistelrooy 14
R van Nistelrooy (pen) 25


Bookings:
L Miller 35

Bookings:
K Poborsky 25




Olympiakos 0 - 0
Monaco HT


Bookings:
T Pantos 17




Roma 0 - 0
Bayer Leverkusen HT


Bookings:
V Montella 36

Bookings:
H Balitsch 3

[Den21-Bal19]

Sparta Prague have pulled one back against Manure, come on Sparta! :rockon:

[Den21-Bal19]

Final Scores from tonight's games:

Bayern Munich 0 - 1 Juventus R
A Del Piero 90


Bookings:
M Camoranesi 28
F Cannavaro 64




D Coruna 0 - 1 Liverpool R
JM Andrade o.g. 14


Bookings:
MV Cesar 37
JM Andrade 75

Bookings:
I Biscan 57
S Hyypia 81




Dynamo Kiev 2 - 2 Real Madrid R
A Yussuf 13
M Verpakovskis 23
GB Raul 37
L Figo (pen) 44


Bookings:
D Rincon 56
T Ghioane 60
M Verpakovskis 67
DB Rodolfo 74
A Yussuf 78

Bookings:
L Figo 85




Lyon 4 - 2 Fenerbahce FT
M Essien 22
F Malouda 53
H Nilmar 90
H Nilmar 90
S Sahin 14
T Sanli 73


Bookings:
S Cetin 9
S Balci 38
M Aurelio 89



Sent off:
S Cetin 75




Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 - 1 Ajax FT
B Dago 49
B Dago 57
D De Ridder 87


Bookings:
S Pienaar 48




Man Utd 4 - 1 Sparta Prague R
R van Nistelrooy 14
R van Nistelrooy (pen) 25
R van Nistelrooy 60
R van Nistelrooy 90
L Zelenka 53


Bookings:
L Miller 35
W Brown 59

Bookings:
K Poborsky 25
J Homola 64



Sent off:
K Poborsky 87




Olympiakos 1 - 0 Monaco R
G Schurrer 84


Bookings:
T Pantos 17
I Stoltidis 77
N Castillo 90
G Georgatos 85

Bookings:
J Plasil 52
P Evra 59
S Squillaci 63




Roma 1 - 1 Bayer Leverkusen R
V Montella 90
D Berbatov 82


Bookings:
V Montella 36
P Mexes 69
F Totti 72

Bookings:
H Balitsch 3
D Placente 56
C Ramelow 72
R Ponte 85
P Freier 90

Good results for Juve, Manure (Damn!), Lyon, Tel Aviv, Olympiakos & the Mighty Reds.

Roma, Oh dear.

The tables:

GROUP A P W D L F A PTS
Olympiakos 4 2 1 1 3 2 7
Liverpool 4 2 1 1 3 1 7
Monaco 4 2 0 2 4 4 6
Deportivo 4 0 2 2 0 3 2

GROUP B P W D L F A PTS
Dynamo Kiev 4 2 1 1 9 5 7
B Leverkusen 4 2 1 1 9 6 7
Real Madrid 4 2 1 1 7 7 7
Roma 4 0 1 3 4 11 1

Positions for teams level on points
decided by results between those sides



CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TABLES
October 19

GROUP C P W D L F A PTS
Juventus 4 4 0 0 4 0 12
Bay Munich 4 2 0 2 5 2 6
Ajax 4 1 0 3 4 7 3
Mac Tel-Aviv 4 1 0 3 2 6 3

GROUP D P W D L F A PTS
Lyon 4 3 1 0 11 6 10
Man Utd 4 2 2 0 12 5 8
Fenerbahce 4 1 0 3 6 13 3
Sp Prague 4 0 1 3 2 7 1

Positions for teams level on points
decided by results between those sides



CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TABLES
November 2

GROUP E P W D L F A PTS
PSV 4 3 0 1 4 2 9
Arsenal 4 1 3 0 5 4 6
Panathin'kos 4 1 2 1 5 5 5
Rosenborg 4 0 1 3 3 6 1

GROUP F P W D L F A PTS
Barcelona 4 3 0 1 8 3 9
AC Milan 4 3 0 1 6 3 9
Shakhtar Don 4 1 0 3 3 5 3
Celtic 4 1 0 3 3 9 3

Positions for teams level on points
decided by results between those sides



CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TABLES
November 2

GROUP G P W D L F A PTS
Inter Milan 4 3 1 0 10 2 10
Wer Bremen 4 3 0 1 9 5 9
Valencia 4 1 1 2 4 7 4
Anderlecht 4 0 0 4 3 12 0

GROUP H P W D L F A PTS
Chelsea 4 4 0 0 9 1 12
CSKA Moscow 4 1 1 2 2 3 4
Paris SG 4 1 1 2 2 5 4
Porto 4 0 2 2 1 5 2

Already through to the knockout stages, Juve, Inter, Chelsea, PSV & Lyon.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Juve is through! All Hail Del Piero! :cheers:

[Lynch Bailey247]

gooo delll pierooooo

[Den21-Bal19]

Juve is through! All Hail Del Piero! :cheers:


Exactly as I predicted scrappy game with a last second goal :cheeky:

[welshbronco]

Good to see Liverpool get a win. Thank u Andrade for the gift. :D

[welshbronco]

Looking at the standings for each group and remaining fixtures who do u think are the teams most likely to make it through to the next phase?

Group A - a three horse race between Olympiakos, Liverpool and Monaco. I think Olympiakos will win their next fixture agains Deportivo and Liverpool and Monaco will get a draw. This will put O in a strong place to qualify and so it's a toss up between Liv and Mon for the remaining place. As a faithful red I will go with Liverpool.

Group B - Again an interesting three horse race between Dynamo, Leverkusen and Real. I think Real will win their remaining 2 fixtures (against Leverkusen and Roma) which will take them through and I will go with Dynamo for the other spot.

Group C - Who will join Juve? Bayern should win their next game against Maccabi so this should make them favourites to follow Juve into the next stage.

Group D - Although it would be gr8 to see Manure falter I can't see it happening and we should see Manchester progress through quite easily to join Lyon.

As for groups E through to F groups F and G look pretty much decided with Inter already qualifying and Barca, Milan and Werder Bremen in strong positions.
Group G sees Chelsea already through with a tight race between PSG and CSKA Moscow to come and Group E probably seeing Arsenal go through to join PSV.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Ok, here's my predictions!

Group A...Olympiakos and Monaco (No Liverpool!)
Group B...Kiev and Leverkusen (No madrid!)
Group C...Juventus and Bayern Munich
Group D...Lyon and Man. U.
Group E...PSV and Arsenal
Group F...Barcelona and AC Milan
Group G...Inter and Werder Bremen
Group H...Chelsea and PSG

3 French teams...I don't know :confused: :D

[Den21-Bal19]

Ok I'll go with

Group A: Olympiakos & Liverpool. I'm relatively confident that Depor will pick up a result of some type in the remaining two games. I'm a bit worried about our (Liverpool's) lack of strikers at the moment.

Group B: Real Madrid & Bayer Leverkusen. Real will leap frog either Leverkusen or Kiev as they play the final match.

Group C: Juve already through with Munich to join them tonight.

Group D: Lyon have already qualified, so I think they'll maybe ease up a bit tonight & Manure get the result that they need to go through, a draw being good enough.

Group E:Panathanikos & Arsenal. Panathanikos to sneek through by beating PSV in the final group game.

Group F: AC Milan & Barcelona both to go through, quite probably tonight.

Group G: Werder Bremen & Inter Milan both to go through, possibly with a draw tomorrow night.

Group H: Chelseas already through, and it doesn't really matter about the rest. CSKA will probably sneak in on the basis that they've already lost to Chelsea twice.

YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Bayern Munich v Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Dynamo Kiev v Roma
Juventus v Ajax Amsterdam
Man Utd v Lyon
Monaco v Liverpool
Olympiakos v Deportivo La Coruña
Real Madrid v Bayer Leverkusen
Sparta Prague v Fenerbahce

Juve and Lyon are both through to the next round already.
Real can qualify through with a win tonight, as can Manure (that one's for welshbrono and Den21 :D )

[Den21-Bal19]

Juve and Lyon are both through to the next round already.
Real can qualify through with a win tonight, as can Manure (that one's for welshbrono and Den21 :D )

Liverpool can qualify as well with a win tonight, but having just conceded I can't see it happening at the moment.

Are you watching a game, or are you following on line?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Liverpool can qualify as well with a win tonight, but having just conceded I can't see it happening at the moment.

Are you watching a game, or are you following on line?
i'm at work, so i have to follow online...even at home, we get one game for every set of games.
So there are 16 games between today and tomorrow, i get 1 of them :(

[Den21-Bal19]

i'm at work, so i have to follow online...even at home, we get one game for every set of games.
So there are 16 games between today and tomorrow, i get 1 of them :(

That's about what I get, a choice of 2 on a Tuesday, and the radio or pub on a Wednesday.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

What games are u able to watch today?

[Den21-Bal19]

What games are u able to watch today?

Unfortunately, I've just seen Liverpool get robbed by a goal that should have been disallowed. It was either that or Manure, which is like watchin gthe Faiders, except without the comfort of knowintg that they'll probably lose! :laugh:

[_BrusT_]

Good day for the german teams today. Leverkusen has a good shot claiming next round when the win the next game, Bayern has done it already and Bremen should do it too.



I am looking forward for the day when my Team "Borussia Dortmund, the 97 winner" will take part again :)

[Den21-Bal19]

Good day for the german teams today. Leverkusen has a good shot claiming next round when the win the next game, Bayern has done it already and Bremen should do it too.



I am looking forward for the day when my Team "Borussia Dortmund, the 97 winner" will take part again :)

I'd agree with you about Bremen, looks like a better season for your guys than last year. Who do think will go through with Leverkusen, Real or Kiev. Personally I prefer Real's chances.

[frenchfan]

Ok, here's my predictions!

Group A...Olympiakos and Monaco (No Liverpool!)
Group B...Kiev and Leverkusen (No madrid!)
Group C...Juventus and Bayern Munich
Group D...Lyon and Man. U.
Group E...PSV and Arsenal
Group F...Barcelona and AC Milan
Group G...Inter and Werder Bremen
Group H...Chelsea and PSG

3 French teams...I don't know :confused: :D LOL... Yep !!! Go french teams !!!
I agree with your predictions, though the toughest will be about PSG.
Yesterday Monaco defeated Liverpool 1-0 !!!

[_BrusT_]

I think Kiev is already through. I expect Leverkusen to win at home vs Kiev, it's a do or die game for them, but if they fail, Real will enter next Round behind Kiev.

[Den21-Bal19]

LOL... Yep !!! Go french teams !!!
I agree with your predictions, though the toughest will be about PSG.
Yesterday Monaco defeated Liverpool 1-0 !!!

Monaco cheated Liverpool 1-0, that was a blatant handball :cheeky:

Olympiakos, Liverpool & Monaco can all qualify in a fortnight, dependant on results.

Liverpool & Monaco qualify with a Liverpool win & Monaco win

Liverpool & Olympiakos go through if Deportivo win against Monaco & Liverpool beat Olympiakos.

Monaco & Olympiakos go through if Liverpool fail to beat Olympiakos

Liverpool win & Monaco draw Liverpool go through along with ??????? I think it depends on how heavily we beat Olympiakos.

[frenchfan]

Monaco cheated Liverpool 1-0, that was a blatant handball :cheeky:

Olympiakos, Liverpool & Monaco can all qualify in a fortnight, dependant on results.

Liverpool & Monaco qualify with a Liverpool win & Monaco win

Liverpool & Olympiakos go through if Deportivo win against Monaco & Liverpool beat Olympiakos.

Monaco & Olympiakos go through if Liverpool fail to beat Olympiakos

Liverpool win & Monaco draw Liverpool go through along with ??????? I think it depends on how heavily we beat Olympiakos. ROFL... What are you talking about ? It was 1-0... The referee didn't make a call !!!
LOL
J/K... I agree there is a doubt about the goal, but sometimes it's wrong, sometimes it's right...
I like Liverpool, but I think they are in trouble because they had to beat Olympiakos.... I think Monaco have its fate in the hands... Wait & see...
Are you a liverpool's fan ? If so, what do you think about Houllier ? Are you happy he has gone ?

[Den21-Bal19]

ROFL... What are you talking about ? It was 1-0... The referee didn't make a call !!!
LOL
J/K... I agree there is a doubt about the goal, but sometimes it's wrong, sometimes it's right...
I like Liverpool, but I think they are in trouble because they had to beat Olympiakos.... I think Monaco have its fate in the hands... Wait & see...
Are you a liverpool's fan ? If so, what do you think about Houllier ? Are you happy he has gone ?

Liverpool fan for nearly 30 years now, god am I really that old?

I'm just getting a bit sick of the bad luck we seem to be having at the moment. Considering we're not halfway through the season yet, that was the fifth goal that was either incorrectly allowed, or disallowed this season. On top of that, the injuries, so far this year we've lost Gerrard for 6 weeks, Cisse for 6-10 months, Baros for 6-8 weeks, Garcia for a month, Nunez has been out since August & Traore & Josemi are both out for at least the next 10 days.

I think Rafa must have smashed a mirror when he kicked a black cat from under a ladder.

How good is Cisse? We've not really seen anything of him yet, he was still adapting to the English game when he broke his leg.

As for Houllier, I''ve got a lot of respect for the guy, but he probably should have gone at the end of the 2002 season. He had us going well until his heart surgery, and never really seemed the same after that. It was definitely past time for a change.

I think we'll go through in a fortnight against the Greeks, they're notoriously poor travellers. Hopefully I'll be able to get a ticket for the game :D

[welshbronco]

Liverpool fan for nearly 30 years now, god am I really that old?

I'm just getting a bit sick of the bad luck we seem to be having at the moment. Considering we're not halfway through the season yet, that was the fifth goal that was either incorrectly allowed, or disallowed this season. On top of that, the injuries, so far this year we've lost Gerrard for 6 weeks, Cisse for 6-10 months, Baros for 6-8 weeks, Garcia for a month, Nunez has been out since August & Traore & Josemi are both out for at least the next 10 days.

I think Rafa must have smashed a mirror when he kicked a black cat from under a ladder.

How good is Cisse? We've not really seen anything of him yet, he was still adapting to the English game when he broke his leg.

As for Houllier, I''ve got a lot of respect for the guy, but he probably should have gone at the end of the 2002 season. He had us going well until his heart surgery, and never really seemed the same after that. It was definitely past time for a change.

I think we'll go through in a fortnight against the Greeks, they're notoriously poor travellers. Hopefully I'll be able to get a ticket for the game :D

Yup! :( Got to agree with u 100% Den 21 - it's not fair! Hope we pick up a good striker or two in the january transfer window. Who do u think we'll get? I'd love it if we got Morientes.

[Den21-Bal19]

Yup! :( Got to agree with u 100% Den 21 - it's not fair! Hope we pick up a good striker or two in the january transfer window. Who do u think we'll get? I'd love it if we got Morientes.

Big problem with Morientes is that he'll be cup-tied in European games. I'd like to see us sign him as a long term addition, but we'll have to bring someone eligible for Europe in, possibly a on a loan deal til the end of the season.

Other names I keep hearing crop up are Villa of Zaragosa (I think) & believe it or not Nicolas Anelka keeps getting a mention, both for about the same price as Morientes.

Did you hear that Nunez got a 60 minute run out for the reserves last night? Supposedly looked quite sharp & could well have played himself into contention for the Arse game on Sunday. He says he's more of a second striker than a winger, and I thought on Tuesday we could have possibly got something out of the game if Mellor had had a bit more support from midfield.

BTW, Welsh, have you heard about these talks for next week about a groundshare with the Blue$h!te? My head says that it probably makes sense, but since when has rationality had anything to do with supporting a football club?

[welshbronco]

Gr8 news about Nunez Den 21. I'd almost forgotten about him! I see he's made the bench today against Arsenal and we're winning 1-0 thanks to Xabi Alonso. Now if we could hang on that really would cheer us up!

[Den21-Bal19]

Gr8 news about Nunez Den 21. I'd almost forgotten about him! I see he's made the bench today against Arsenal and we're winning 1-0 thanks to Xabi Alonso. Now if we could hang on that really would cheer us up!

Beautiful result today from the lads today, I've seen Mellor a $h!tload of times in the reserves and never knew he could strike the ball like that :jawdrop:

Problem is I'm already half cooked before the main game tonight :cheers:

[welshbronco]

Yep gr8 day! All we need now is the Broncos to crush the raiders and it will be double delight. Maybe u need to book Tuesday off work too Den 21!

[Den21-Bal19]

Yep gr8 day! All we need now is the Broncos to crush the raiders and it will be double delight. Maybe u need to book Tuesday off work too Den 21!

Maybe I do at that, but hopefully I'll need some holiday time in January, if you know what I mean.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

So, after yesterday's results,
Arsenal, PSV, Milan, Barca, Inter, Werder Bremen, Chelsea, and Porto are through.

Juve, Bayern, Manure, and Lyon are also through.

[welshbronco]

Woo hoo Liverpool through! 3-1 win coming back from 0-1 with goals by Pongolle, Mellor and Gerrard. Who needs Michael Owen!? :laugh:

[welshbronco]

Ok, here's my predictions!

Group A...Olympiakos and Monaco (No Liverpool!)
Group B...Kiev and Leverkusen (No madrid!)
Group C...Juventus and Bayern Munich
Group D...Lyon and Man. U.
Group E...PSV and Arsenal
Group F...Barcelona and AC Milan
Group G...Inter and Werder Bremen
Group H...Chelsea and PSG

3 French teams...I don't know :confused: :D
No Liverpool! No Madrid! Glad u were wrong!

[Den21-Bal19]

No Liverpool! No Madrid! Glad u were wrong!

Well half wrong anyway! Man, I'm still buzzing from that, I though we were brown bread at halftime. What a performance! What a result!



When You Walk Through A Storm, Hold Your Head Up High,
And Don't Be Afraid of the Dark. At The End Of The Storm,
There's a Golden Sky, And The Sweet Silver Song Of The Lark,
Walk On Through The Wind, Walk On Through The Rain,
May Your Dreams Be Tossed And Blown.
WALK ON, WALK ON, WITH HOPE IN YOUR HEART,
AND YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE,
YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE.

Who else went through tonight? Once we heard the Manure score, nothing else mattered :cheers:

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Just so the two of you know, the next time i'm in europe, i'm gonna be sure to call out man u. and call them by their nickname (manure), just for you guys!!!

[Den21-Bal19]

Champions League, final group standings.
UEFA Champions League : Group A Table
P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Monaco 6 4 0 2 10 4 6 12
2 Liverpool 6 3 1 2 6 3 3 10
3 Olympiakos 6 3 1 2 5 5 0 10
4 D Coruna 6 0 2 4 0 9 -9 2

UEFA Champions League : Group B Table
P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Bayer Leverkusen 6 3 2 1 13 7 6 11
2 Real Madrid 6 3 2 1 11 8 3 11
3 Dynamo Kiev 6 3 1 2 11 8 3 10
4 Roma 6 0 1 5 4 16 -12 1

UEFA Champions League : Group C Table
P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Juventus 6 5 1 0 6 1 5 16
2 Bayern Munich 6 3 1 2 12 5 7 10
3 Ajax 6 1 1 4 6 10 -4 4
4 Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 1 1 4 4 12 -8 4

UEFA Champions League : Group D Table
P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Lyon 6 4 1 1 17 8 9 13
2 Man Utd 6 3 2 1 14 9 5 11
3 Fenerbahce 6 3 0 3 10 13 -3 9
4 Sparta Prague 6 0 1 5 2 13 -11 1

UEFA Champions League : Group E Table
P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Arsenal 6 2 4 0 11 6 5 10
2 PSV 6 3 1 2 6 7 -1 10
3 Panathinaikos 6 2 3 1 11 8 3 9
4 Rosenborg 6 0 2 4 6 13 -7 2

UEFA Champions League : Group F Table
P W D L F A GD PTS
1 AC Milan 6 4 1 1 10 3 7 13
2 Barcelona 6 3 1 2 9 6 3 10
3 Shakhtar Donetsk 6 2 0 4 5 9 -4 6
4 Celtic 6 1 2 3 4 10 -6 5

UEFA Champions League : Group G Table
P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Inter Milan 6 4 2 0 14 3 11 14
2 Werder Bremen 6 4 1 1 12 6 6 13
3 Valencia 6 2 1 3 6 10 -4 7
4 Anderlecht 6 0 0 6 4 17 -13 0

UEFA Champions League : Group H Table
P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Chelsea 6 4 1 1 10 3 7 13
2 FC Porto 6 2 2 2 4 6 -2 8
3 CSKA Moscow 6 2 1 3 5 5 0 7
4 PSG 6 1 2 3 3 8 -5 5

Through to the knockout stages as winners: Monaco, Beyer Leverkusen, Juventus, Lyon, Arsenal, AC Milan, Inter Milan & Chelsea.

Through to the knockout stages as runner ups: Liverpool, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Manure, PSV, Barcelona, Werder Bremen & FC Porto.

Thrid place sides go into the draw for the next round of the UEFA Cup, fourth place sides go home.

The draw is next Friday (17th), and is from two pots, 1st place teams against 2nd place, with the 1st place team playing the 2nd leg at home. Teams cannot be drawn against the team they qualified with, or teams from the same national association.

For Example, as runners up, Liverpool cannot play Monaco (Qualified from the same group) or Arsenal/Chelsea (same national association).

Therefore NJ, Liverpool sand a 60% chance of being drawn against one of your sides, as we can only be drawn against Juventus, AC, Inter, Leverkusen or Lyon. I think the CL begins again in Feb.

[welshbronco]

Just so the two of you know, the next time i'm in europe, i'm gonna be sure to call out man u. and call them by their nickname (manure), just for you guys!!!
Good on u NJ!

[welshbronco]

Yes I think the CL begins again on Feb 22 I believe. What will we do until then? Is this thread about to go into hibernation? Let's hope the broncos perform well from now on to entertain us!

[Den21-Bal19]

Yes I think the CL begins again on Feb 22 I believe. What will we do until then? Is this thread about to go into hibernation? Let's hope the broncos perform well from now on to entertain us!

Damn straight! I suppose there may be some interest when the transfer window opens, and there's always the derby on Saturday.

[The Big Dane]

I'm a footie (soccer for you backwards folks) fanatic, but the CL just plain bores me most of the time. Watered out the concept, since 70 % of the teams aren't even champions, and the Ueaf cup has become a joke, because of the aforementioned plus the fact that 3rd placed teams from the group stages of the CL are transferred to the final stages of the UEFA Cup. A lot of matches are so tactically minded, it's boring, one look at Juve will tell you that. Teams fielding Youth/reserve squads because they're already through or out (most recently Man U and Roma) in games that decides the fate of other teams. Uefa making sure only big country clubs go through to the group stage, by making the qualification system as it is, several teams from the big countries automatically qualify for the group stage, while some countries only get one team in, and that in the first of 3 qualification rounds. All to eliminate the upsets that are bound to happen making sure only the Barcas, Milans and Man Us of footie are left at the end. Danish no-names OB knocked out Real Madrid 10 years ago with the old tournament, B1903 knocked out Bayern Munich (winning 6-2 at home), Brøndby was becoming a force, going all the way to the semis of the UEFA and the quarters another year (losing on a Voeller goal in injury time) knocking out several top German teams on the way, knocked out Liverpool one of those glory years too. Even with this new formate teams from smaller leagues are making upsets (FCK beating Ajax and outperforming Chelsea and Glasgow in recent years), Brøndby beating Bayern Munich the year they did make it to the group stage, some Swedish team (think it was Helsingborg) knocked out Inter a few years back, Djurgården drew Juve in Italy this year. But hey, no wonder you have 90 % big league teams at the end now, try letting them play 3 knock-out phases before even making the tournament and see how theyll fare.

Of course I'm not advocating that all leagues should qualify an equal amount of teams, but once they're qualified they should certainly be on equal terms, and no way should countries qualify 4 teams for the CL (possibly 5 with reigning champions). UEFA's motives are obvious, big name clubs draw world-wide attention and that of people who aren't really passionate about the sport, which is more important than the best teams actually playing. For passionate fans, it's bollocks. I really don't give much of a **** about the CL these days. Bring on the local leagues instead, they're fair and actually about footie.

[Den21-Bal19]

I'm a footie (soccer for you backwards folks) fanatic, but the CL just plain bores me most of the time. Watered out the concept, since 70 % of the teams aren't even champions, and the Ueaf cup has become a joke, because of the aforementioned plus the fact that 3rd placed teams from the group stages of the CL are transferred to the final stages of the UEFA Cup. A lot of matches are so tactically minded, it's boring, one look at Juve will tell you that. Teams fielding Youth/reserve squads because they're already through or out (most recently Man U and Roma) in games that decides the fate of other teams. Uefa making sure only big country clubs go through to the group stage, by making the qualification system as it is, several teams from the big countries automatically qualify for the group stage, while some countries only get one team in, and that in the first of 3 qualification rounds. All to eliminate the upsets that are bound to happen making sure only the Barcas, Milans and Man Us of footie are left at the end. Danish no-names OB knocked out Real Madrid 10 years ago with the old tournament, B1903 knocked out Bayern Munich (winning 6-2 at home), Brøndby was becoming a force, going all the way to the semis of the UEFA and the quarters another year (losing on a Voeller goal in injury time) knocking out several top German teams on the way, knocked out Liverpool one of those glory years too. Even with this new formate teams from smaller leagues are making upsets (FCK beating Ajax and outperforming Chelsea and Glasgow in recent years), Brøndby beating Bayern Munich the year they did make it to the group stage, some Swedish team (think it was Helsingborg) knocked out Inter a few years back, Djurgården drew Juve in Italy this year. But hey, no wonder you have 90 % big league teams at the end now, try letting them play 3 knock-out phases before even making the tournament and see how theyll fare.

Of course I'm not advocating that all leagues should qualify an equal amount of teams, but once they're qualified they should certainly be on equal terms, and no way should countries qualify 4 teams for the CL (possibly 5 with reigning champions). UEFA's motives are obvious, big name clubs draw world-wide attention and that of people who aren't really passionate about the sport, which is more important than the best teams actually playing. For passionate fans, it's bollocks. I really don't give much of a **** about the CL these days. Bring on the local leagues instead, they're fair and actually about footie.

I can sort of agree with you, especially since my mighty reds won the old tournament 4 times, & I agree that the current system is unfair towards the smaller nations. I've been to 2 of Liverpool's group games this year, & it was only on Wednesday night that we had a really good 'Old Anfield' atmosphere. But that been said, in the premiership it is essential for clubs to qualify for the Champions League, even more so since Abramovitch arrived at Chelsea and hugely re-inflated the transfer market.
Certainly from Liverpool's perspective we have to qualify for the Champions league to stand any chance of making up ground on Arsenal, Chelsea & Manure, therefore hopefully enabling us to challenge for the domestic title withing the next year or two.
To be honest, I think the Champions League is a compromise situation. The G14 clubs would probably prefer to have an invitation only European Super League, but the fans still want to play their traditional rivals & derby matches, which just wouldn't be possible with a Super League.
Unfotunately, the practice of fielding understrength sides is permeating the English domestic game, and my club are as guilty as anyone else. I suppose the counter to that argument though, it that each club names a squad of 25 players plus an additional number (12 I think) of youth players, and anybody that's good enough to make it into the squad is considered to be good enough to play in the tournament.
At least UEFA have started to listen to what the fans want though, the tournament has now been cut down to a single group stage, that thing of having to sets of group stages was a complete joke. I'm not sure, but I think this may also be the last year in which the 3rd placed teams are parachuted into the UEFA cup.

[frenchfan]

I'm a footie (soccer for you backwards folks) fanatic, but the CL just plain bores me most of the time. Watered out the concept, since 70 % of the teams aren't even champions, and the Ueaf cup has become a joke, because of the aforementioned plus the fact that 3rd placed teams from the group stages of the CL are transferred to the final stages of the UEFA Cup. A lot of matches are so tactically minded, it's boring, one look at Juve will tell you that. Teams fielding Youth/reserve squads because they're already through or out (most recently Man U and Roma) in games that decides the fate of other teams. Uefa making sure only big country clubs go through to the group stage, by making the qualification system as it is, several teams from the big countries automatically qualify for the group stage, while some countries only get one team in, and that in the first of 3 qualification rounds. All to eliminate the upsets that are bound to happen making sure only the Barcas, Milans and Man Us of footie are left at the end. Danish no-names OB knocked out Real Madrid 10 years ago with the old tournament, B1903 knocked out Bayern Munich (winning 6-2 at home), Brøndby was becoming a force, going all the way to the semis of the UEFA and the quarters another year (losing on a Voeller goal in injury time) knocking out several top German teams on the way, knocked out Liverpool one of those glory years too. Even with this new formate teams from smaller leagues are making upsets (FCK beating Ajax and outperforming Chelsea and Glasgow in recent years), Brøndby beating Bayern Munich the year they did make it to the group stage, some Swedish team (think it was Helsingborg) knocked out Inter a few years back, Djurgården drew Juve in Italy this year. But hey, no wonder you have 90 % big league teams at the end now, try letting them play 3 knock-out phases before even making the tournament and see how theyll fare.

Of course I'm not advocating that all leagues should qualify an equal amount of teams, but once they're qualified they should certainly be on equal terms, and no way should countries qualify 4 teams for the CL (possibly 5 with reigning champions). UEFA's motives are obvious, big name clubs draw world-wide attention and that of people who aren't really passionate about the sport, which is more important than the best teams actually playing. For passionate fans, it's bollocks. I really don't give much of a **** about the CL these days. Bring on the local leagues instead, they're fair and actually about footie.That's right. You know, I don't think any french team can win the CL. Because of money. Monaco last year was a real surprise. If you apply the french rules about money, many teams (from Italy and Spain especially) couldn't even play in the first league. Madrid, Milan, they can spend many more money than they could have.
That's a reason why I like the NFL rules (about salary cap for example)...

Anyway, Lille, my hometown, is making a good UEFA cup despiste a lack of money... Sometimes, work and good strategies can make you win... There is some hope, though I don't think they could win the UEFA cup...

[Den21-Bal19]

Draw was made this morning for the next round, I quite like Inter's chances of progressing & I think Juventus can turn Real over, and I'm going to pray for AC Milan turning Manure over.

Pretty good draw for Liverpool, I'd have taken either Bayer or Lyon out of the clubs we could have met. The other 3 ties are probably too close to call.

Last year, the draw made at this stage was the only draw, and if that applies this year there is a chance of all English, Italian, German or French finals.

Full Champions League draw:

Real Madrid v Juventus
FC Porto v Inter Milan
Barcelona v Chelsea
Werder Bremen v Lyon
Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen
PSV v Monaco
Manchester United v AC Milan
Bayern Munich v Arsenal

The first leg matches will be played on 22/23 February and the return ties are on 8/9 March.

Do you like the draw, or could it have been kinder to your club?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Well, I can't say for sure as I don't get too watch too much, but i woudl say that both Juve and AC Milan have some very tough draws having to play against Real and manure.

I am still confident that the bianconeri will pull it out though!!!!

[welshbronco]

Interesting draw! I like the fact that Manure have a toughie against Milan. We'll be shouting for the Italians there for sure. And on paper at least Liverpool has got a good draw. Chelsea v Barca I look forward to too. Only 2 months to wait!
Finally grrrr - why did the blue**** have to beat Liverpool last weekend!!!!!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

I'm getting very excited for some huge matches!!!
Juve vs. Madrid on the 22nd.
Milan vs. Manure on the 23th...i'm hearing that Nistelrooy should be ready for this game....
you guys heard anything about his status?

[Den21-Bal19]

I'm getting very excited for some huge matches!!!
Juve vs. Madrid on the 22nd.
Milan vs. Manure on the 23th...i'm hearing that Nistelrooy should be ready for this game....
you guys heard anything about his status?

Touch & go to be honest, both him & Alan Smith are due back around then, but van Diverboy won't be match fit, I think it will be about 2 months out that he's had.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Touch & go to be honest, both him & Alan Smith are due back around then, but van Diverboy won't be match fit, I think it will be about 2 months out that he's had.
van diverboy? :laugh:
and all this after hearing manure for the first time...
what other slangs to you guys use for some of the more prominent players/teams?

[Den21-Bal19]

van diverboy? :laugh:
and all this after hearing manure for the first time...
what other slangs to you guys use for some of the more prominent players/teams?


I believe that this is a PG rated board, so obviously some of the names can't be repeated ;)

Since they were bought by Abramovich, some papers have taken to calling Chelsea Chelski, although most fans would probably change the 'k' to a 'h' and add a 't' on the end

I suppose the most prominent other one would be Wayne Rooney being Shrek. although you can call Rio Ferdinand anything that you want as he'll forget, like he forgot to take his drug test.

If I remember anymore clean(ish) one I'll add them.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

frenchie...the french teams are going down!!!!!


Forza Juve!

[frenchfan]

frenchie...the french teams are going down!!!!!


Forza Juve!You know, I don't think french teams will win CL... It's too hard for us because of money... If Milan, Real or many teams like that would play in our championship, they couldn't do what they are doing... In France, you must balance your budget if you want to play !

So, best players are going where money is going... And to be honest, I think the best teams are in Italy, England and Spain...

But you know... it's soccer... and sometimes underdogs win ...

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

You know, I don't think french teams will win CL... It's too hard for us because of money... If Milan, Real or many teams like that would play in our championship, they couldn't do what they are doing... In France, you must balance your budget if you want to play !

So, best players are going where money is going... And to be honest, I think the best teams are in Italy, England and Spain...

But you know... it's soccer... and sometimes underdogs win ...
excuses excuses!!!


Forza Juve!

[frenchfan]

excuses excuses!!!


Forza Juve!There are no excuses... I said I thought the best teams were not the french ones... Where are the excuses ?

Plus, don't you remember JUve needed some great French players (Platini, Zidane, Trezeguet, Thuram) ? :cheeky:

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

There are no excuses... I said I thought the best teams were not the french ones... Where are the excuses ?

Plus, don't you remember JUve needed some great French players (Platini, Zidane, Trezeguet, Thuram) ? :cheeky:
trezeguet!? maybe he will hurt himself more!

yes, i know, frenchie players are very good...but i think that the national team will not be so good...zidane is getting older and barthez is already very old!
how old is thuram?

Henry is still somewhat young, correct?

[frenchfan]

trezeguet!? maybe he will hurt himself more!

yes, i know, frenchie players are very good...but i think that the national team will not be so good...zidane is getting older and barthez is already very old!
how old is thuram?

Henry is still somewhat young, correct?Yep... Henry still play with the national team... Zidane and Thuram stopped now... Well, our team is not as good as it was before but we still have good players... Plus, I don't think the great nations of soccer still dominate it (England, Italy, etc...)... except Brasil !
When Greece can win European Championship, all can happen...
What do u think abotu that ?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Yep... Henry still play with the national team... Zidane and Thuram stopped now... Well, our team is not as good as it was before but we still have good players... Plus, I don't think the great nations of soccer still dominate it (England, Italy, etc...)... except Brasil !
When Greece can win European Championship, all can happen...
What do u think abotu that ?
I think totti will bring the cup back to italy!!! :laugh: :laugh:

yes, i agree, brasil is great.

[frenchfan]

I think totti will bring the cup back to italy!!! :laugh: :laugh:

yes, i agree, brasil is great.Sorry, but I think Squadra Azzura is not so impressive too... A lot of good players too, but will they play together and play harder ? IDK...
Buffon is a great goalkeeper... I think the best since Dino Zoff..

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Sorry, but I think Squadra Azzura is not so impressive too... A lot of good players too, but will they play together and play harder ? IDK...
Buffon is a great goalkeeper... I think the best since Dino Zoff..
Yes, Buffon is very good. I think the defence is very good with Cannavaro and Nesta! I think Vieri has to be healthy and Totti needs to play very well.

However, for the 2006 squad, I see no Del Piero, no Zambrotta, and no Inzaghi.

maybe they can pay zidane to come play for italy....

[frenchfan]

Yes, Buffon is very good. I think the defence is very good with Cannavaro and Nesta! I think Vieri has to be healthy and Totti needs to play very well.

However, for the 2006 squad, I see no Del Piero, no Zambrotta, and no Inzaghi.

maybe they can pay zidane to come play for italy....LOL... It would be the cake on the ice ! And a very great pick for Italy...

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

LOL... It would be the cake on the ice ! And a very great pick for Italy...
lol frenchie....we say it would be the icing on the cake..

[frenchfan]

lol frenchie....we say it would be the icing on the cake..Upss.... sorry... my bad...
We say 'cerise sur le gateau' (a cherry on the cake)

[welshbronco]

If u were granted 3 wishes for the forthcoming stage of the Champions League what would they be?
Mine would be:
1. Liverpool to beat Leverkusen
2. Milan to dump manure out of the competition
3. Barcelona (my fave spanish team) to put Chelsea "money buys u success" in their place

[Shaolin]

I think Barcelona will win it, but i'm rooting for bayern
Any of you play soccer?

[Den21-Bal19]

If u were granted 3 wishes for the forthcoming stage of the Champions League what would they be?
Mine would be:
1. Liverpool to beat Leverkusen
2. Milan to dump manure out of the competition
3. Barcelona (my fave spanish team) to put Chelsea "money buys u success" in their place

Straight from my own heart!!! :D

I'm stuck at work listening to the Toon-Chelski cup game, their season could be almost ruined by this time next week. :laugh:

Are you going to the Carling Cup Final?

[welshbronco]

Straight from my own heart!!! :D

I'm stuck at work listening to the Toon-Chelski cup game, their season could be almost ruined by this time next week. :laugh:

Are you going to the Carling Cup Final?
Unfortunately I can't go to the Carling Cup final but am looking forward to watching on tv. Are u going? Are u pleased with the Morientes signing and what do u think about the speculation that Owen might be coming back to Anfield?

[Den21-Bal19]

Unfortunately I can't go to the Carling Cup final but am looking forward to watching on tv. Are u going? Are u pleased with the Morientes signing and what do u think about the speculation that Owen might be coming back to Anfield?

Hopefully I'll be going, I qualified & I'm just waiting to find out.

Morientes is a fantastic signing, especially for only 0.5mil mor than the BS spent on Beattie, it's just a shame that he's cup tied.

As for Owen, I'm not sure. I didn;t like the way either he or the club dealt with his contract situation, yet who can blame anyone for wanting to try Madrid? Hopefully, if or when he comes back, it'll be much like the Ian Rush situation of 20 years ago, and he'll just keep banging them in.

[frenchfan]

If u were granted 3 wishes for the forthcoming stage of the Champions League what would they be?
Mine would be:
1. Liverpool to beat Leverkusen
2. Milan to dump manure out of the competition
3. Barcelona (my fave spanish team) to put Chelsea "money buys u success" in their placeI fully agree about Chelski ! As a frenchie, I like Arsenal ! But I also like Liverpool... For me, Liverpool is something like Barcelona, Real, Ajax or Juve....

[Jared]

I'm opening up a thread on this board for the 5 people who like soccer.
The first Pool stage of the Champions League has been completed.
Biggest suprises....Real Madrid loses 3-0 to Bayern Leverkusen.
Roma match cancelled about half way through because ref was hit in the head with a lighter.

Please, i'm asking nicely...don't come in here just to say that you think soccer sucks. if you wanna do that, start a seperate thread or something. Thanks.:)


Hey, I like soccer. I played it.


But I profess to not really following closely enough to know anything about foreign leagues.

[frenchfan]

Hey, I like soccer. I played it.


But I profess to not really following closely enough to know anything about foreign leagues.Great Jared ! I played it too... What was your position ?
Feel free to ask us about the foreign leagues... and Champions league...
:beer:

[welshbronco]

Obviously my game of choice will be Liverpool v Leverkusen tonight all though I'm afraid it could be a rather dull affair perhaps with Leverkusen choosing to play very definsively. I hope I'm wrong and there are plenty of goals for Liverpool of course! The Juve v Real fixture also looks v tasty and I'll be flicking channels now and then to keep an eye on that too.
Tommorow night I look forward to the Barca v Chelski game v much. The Milan v Man U game looks good too. Plenty of goals for Milan please!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Obviously my game of choice will be Liverpool v Leverkusen tonight all though I'm afraid it could be a rather dull affair perhaps with Leverkusen choosing to play very definsively. I hope I'm wrong and there are plenty of goals for Liverpool of course! The Juve v Real fixture also looks v tasty and I'll be flicking channels now and then to keep an eye on that too.
Tommorow night I look forward to the Barca v Chelski game v much. The Milan v Man U game looks good too. Plenty of goals for Milan please!
I'm worried alil about the Juve and Milan games.

Juve will be without Nedved, while Real was able to rest Figo, Carlos, Zidane this week.

And for Milan, Shevchenko will not be playing, while it looks as if Nistelrooy will.

[welshbronco]

It is really hard to predict the Juve v Madrid game. Madrid were really poor over the weekend then again as u say they did not field a full strength team. Although Milan are gr8 Manure have shown some good form recently and it could be really close.

[Den21-Bal19]

Obviously my game of choice will be Liverpool v Leverkusen tonight all though I'm afraid it could be a rather dull affair perhaps with Leverkusen choosing to play very definsively. I hope I'm wrong and there are plenty of goals for Liverpool of course! The Juve v Real fixture also looks v tasty and I'll be flicking channels now and then to keep an eye on that too.
Tommorow night I look forward to the Barca v Chelski game v much. The Milan v Man U game looks good too. Plenty of goals for Milan please!

I'd agree that our game looks like it should be a tight one tonight, the most important thing IMO is keeping a clean sheet, we can't afford to have to chase the game over there.

I think Bayern should gain a slim advantage over Arsenal, much as I hate to say it. If the Gunners can get an anyway goal, I'd fancy them to win the tie at home.

PSV against Monaco, I've got to admit I don't know anything about the dutch side, so I'll have to give Monaco the egde, but maybe Frenchfan will know better.

Real vs Juventus, well I've got a coin here anyone wnat to call it?

BTW, WelshBronco, I've just recieved my ticket for the final on sunday.


COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDMEN!!!

[welshbronco]

I'd agree that our game looks like it should be a tight one tonight, the most important thing IMO is keeping a clean sheet, we can't afford to have to chase the game over there.

I think Bayern should gain a slim advantage over Arsenal, much as I hate to say it. If the Gunners can get an anyway goal, I'd fancy them to win the tie at home.

PSV against Monaco, I've got to admit I don't know anything about the dutch side, so I'll have to give Monaco the egde, but maybe Frenchfan will know better.

Real vs Juventus, well I've got a coin here anyone wnat to call it?

BTW, WelshBronco, I've just recieved my ticket for the final on sunday.


COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDMEN!!!
Hey gr8 news about u getting a ticket for the cup final Sunday. I'm envious! I'm v happy with the 1st 25 mins of the game. Lovely goal by Garcia made by Biscan.

[Den21-Bal19]

Hey gr8 news about u getting a ticket for the cup final Sunday. I'm envious! I'm v happy with the 1st 25 mins of the game. Lovely goal by Garcia made by Biscan.


EEEEEEEEEEGGGGGOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRR! :beer:

Damn it that was close. Beratov seriously let us off the hook

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

God Bless Buffon (at least so far)

[welshbronco]

Arsenal and Monaco behind 1-0 too!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Nevermind what i just said about Buffon.
Juve down 1-0

[welshbronco]

Who scored for Madrid? Liverpool up 2-0! Riise scores!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Beckham sent a cross over which Helguera knocked in.

and now Nedved has been knocked out of the game with a head injury.

[Den21-Bal19]

Hey, John Arne Riise,
I wanna know

How you Scored that Goal :D

[welshbronco]

I'm enjoying this game. To think I thought it would be a dull affair - must have been something wrong with my head!

[Den21-Bal19]

I'm enjoying this game. To think I thought it would be a dull affair - must have been something wrong with my head!

Just need to tighten things up a bit. We've given them too many chances to be comfortable.

[Den21-Bal19]

Champions League Half times:

Bayern Munich 1 - 0
Arsenal HT
CM Pizarro 3

Bookings:
MG Demichelis 14

Bookings:
P Vieira 30


Liverpool 2 - 0
Bayer Leverkusen HT
S Luis Garcia 15
J Riise 35

Bookings:
P Freier 45


PSV 1 - 0
Monaco HT
RDdC Alex 8

Bookings:
J Vogel 38

Bookings:
J Rodriguez 40


Real Madrid 1 - 0
Juventus HT
I Helguera 31

Bookings:
R Carlos 36

Bookings:
L Thuram 22

So far, so good

[Den21-Bal19]

Landon Donovan on to try and rescue the Germans. I've got to admit that we're giving Leverkusen too many chances to get back into the game.

Arsenal now down by 3 to Bayern, no score in the 2nd half of the other games so far.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Well Juve have dropped the first leg...they didn't look so great....they came on a little bit towards the end after Del Piero was brought out, but it was too little too late.
Buffon might have held possession longer than anyone else on the team!

[Den21-Bal19]

Champions League final scores:

Bayern Munich 3 - 1 Arsenal
CM Pizarro 3 K Toure 88
CM Pizarro 58
H Salihamidzic 65

Bookings:
MG Demichelis 14 P Vieira 30
R Kovac 90 B Lauren 76


Liverpool 3 - 1 Bayer Leverkusen FT
S Luis Garcia 15 FSdS Franca 90
J Riise 35
D Hamann 90

Bookings:
J Dudek 53
D Hamann 59

Bookings:
R Ponte 45
P Freier 51


PSV 1 - 0 Monaco R
RDdC Alex 8

Bookings:
J Vogel 38

Bookings:
J Rodriguez 40


Real Madrid 1 - 0 Juventus FT
I Helguera 31


Bookings:
R Carlos 36
T Gravesen 61
W Samuel 73

Bookings:
L Thuram 22
R Olivera 61
M Blasi 65
A Del Piero 79
A Tacchinardi 80

Not a bad night's work for Liverpool, although I'm not happy with giving Leverkusen an away goal. Arsenal have given themselves hope with their away goal.

The other two games are still tighter than a .....................

NJ, was it a dirty game, or was the ref over picky?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

NJ, was it a dirty game, or was the ref over picky?

It was certainly the ref...there were a few good tackles on both sides that players were booked for.

[Den21-Bal19]

It was certainly the ref...there were a few good tackles on both sides that players were booked for.

Tey do seem to be trying to take the physical aspect out of the game nowadays. Can Juve turn Real over in the 2nd leg? Especially considering that Real are always likely to score.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Tey do seem to be trying to take the physical aspect out of the game nowadays. Can Juve turn Real over in the 2nd leg? Especially considering that Real are always likely to score.
I don't know...I think it was big that Nedved had to leave the game very early on.

But Real was attacking from the on-set, they deserved the victory it seems.

[Den21-Bal19]

I don't know...I think it was big that Nedved had to leave the game very early on.

But Real was attacking from the on-set, they deserved the victory it seems.

We've got lucky there, our 'biggest' player, Gerrard is was suspended for this game, he'll be back in a fortnight and we have no new injury or suspension worries, where as at least two or 3 of their players will miss the second leg. Any word yet on Nedved's injury?

As for your second, I think you'll probably have to score 3 to go through, I just can't see Real not scoring when they really need to.

[frenchfan]

I'd agree that our game looks like it should be a tight one tonight, the most important thing IMO is keeping a clean sheet, we can't afford to have to chase the game over there.

I think Bayern should gain a slim advantage over Arsenal, much as I hate to say it. If the Gunners can get an anyway goal, I'd fancy them to win the tie at home.

PSV against Monaco, I've got to admit I don't know anything about the dutch side, so I'll have to give Monaco the egde, but maybe Frenchfan will know better.

Real vs Juventus, well I've got a coin here anyone wnat to call it?

BTW, WelshBronco, I've just recieved my ticket for the final on sunday.


COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDMEN!!!Well... Arsenal disapointed me... Monaco was defeated by PSV (1-0).. But I think they can qualify at Monaco... They have to play better now...
Real won, and I think Juve is in trouble now... They can't win in Calcio... But Juve is the kind of team Real doesn't like... It's 60-40 for Real...

I think Lyon is the fav, but Breme is a tough team, with some good players (Micoud... a frenchie of course.. LOL) and a very strong offense...

My point is that at this stage, any teams can win... There is no "bad" team... Only good teams are there, but now, some are much more tired than others... What's the team's health is the question...

[Den21-Bal19]

Well... Arsenal disapointed me... Monaco was defeated by PSV (1-0).. But I think they can qualify at Monaco... They have to play better now...
Real won, and I think Juve is in trouble now... They can't win in Calcio... But Juve is the kind of team Real doesn't like... It's 60-40 for Real...

I think Lyon is the fav, but Breme is a tough team, with some good players (Micoud... a frenchie of course.. LOL) and a very strong offense...

My point is that at this stage, any teams can win... There is no "bad" team... Only good teams are there, but now, some are much more tired than others... What's the team's health is the question...

I' d agree with that, I mean noone would have picked Monaco & Porto last season, or Greece to win the Euros. As a commentator over here used to say, 'It's a funny old game'.

Who know's if things carry on like this then maybe the USA can win the next Jules Rimet :laugh:

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Time for Milan vs. Man. U!

[welshbronco]

I hear Stam injured himself in the warm up. Hope this doesn't help Manure!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

yes...cafu is playing in place of Stam...and Shevchenko is out i'm sure you know already.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Yellow for Nesta for a foot to Gigg's face (thought you guys would like that lol)

[Den21-Bal19]

Yellow for Nesta for a foot to Gigg's face (thought you guys would like that lol)

Yellow???? The guy should have got a medal :laugh:

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Goal for Milan in the 76th minute!!!

[Den21-Bal19]

Goal for Milan in the 76th minute!!!

How did they manage that? Away sides at Castle Greyskull aren't allowed to score. You also realise of course that Demento rules now apply, the game doesn't finish until Manure get a result more to Sir Sourface's liking?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

How did they manage that? Away sides at Castle Greyskull aren't allowed to score. You also realise of course that Demento rules now apply, the game doesn't finish until Manure get a result more to Sir Sourface's liking?
It was a mistake by the Man U. goalkeeper and Crespo punched it in...he really had no other choice but to score as he was right there.

Castle Greyskull? :laugh: Shouldn't it be Sir Skeletor?


*EDIT*

And that's it, Milan have won in England against an English side in the first time in their history, Untied have lost at home for the first time in the Champions League in three years - and it was all down to Roy Carroll's mistake!

[Den21-Bal19]

It was a mistake by the Man U. goalkeeper and Crespo punched it in...he really had no other choice but to score as he was right there.

Castle Greyskull? :laugh: Shouldn't it be Sir Skeletor?


*EDIT*

And that's it, Milan have won in England against an English side in the first time in their history, Untied have lost at home for the first time in the Champions League in three years - and it was all down to Roy Carroll's mistake!

You're lucky, about a month or so ago Manure were playing Spurs in the league and Spurs put the ball a good two yards over the line before Carroll clawed it out, and the goal wasn't given! Did you know that only 2!!! penalties have been scored against Manure in the League in nearly 12 years! They've really got the luck of the devil at times.


'Course that's coming home to roost, Malcolm Glaser (the Buccs owner) is trying to buy them. The munsters are spitting feathers :laugh:

[frenchfan]

Lyon defeated Breme (at Breme) 3-0 !!! Wow... What a great game from Lyon...
I think Barcelona-Chelski was a great game too but I couldn't see it...
What happened to the red devils ???? I'm really surprised... Can someone explain me ?

[frenchfan]

Lyon defeated Breme (at Breme) 3-0 !!! Wow... What a great game from Lyon...
I think Barcelona-Chelski was a great game too but I couldn't see it...
What happened to the red devils ???? I'm really surprised... Can someone explain me ?

[frenchfan]

Lyon defeated Breme (at Breme) 3-0 !!! Wow... What a great game from Lyon...
I think Barcelona-Chelski was a great game too but I couldn't see it...
What happened to the red devils ???? I'm really surprised... Can someone explain me ?

[frenchfan]

Lyon defeated Breme (at Breme) 3-0 !!! Wow... What a great game from Lyon...
I think Barcelona-Chelski was a great game too but I couldn't see it...
What happened to the red devils ???? I'm really surprised... Can someone explain me ?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Frenchie...I think you're a lil too excited!

[frenchfan]

Frenchie...I think you're a lil too excited!ROFL... Nope... It's just my connection to Internet... LOL...
And you know... it's hard to stay cool while OBie is under your desk... :eek: LMFAOO...

[welshbronco]

It was a mistake by the Man U. goalkeeper and Crespo punched it in...he really had no other choice but to score as he was right there.

Castle Greyskull? :laugh: Shouldn't it be Sir Skeletor?


*EDIT*

And that's it, Milan have won in England against an English side in the first time in their history, Untied have lost at home for the first time in the Champions League in three years - and it was all down to Roy Carroll's mistake!
WE LOVE ROY CARROLL!

[welshbronco]

Lyon defeated Breme (at Breme) 3-0 !!! Wow... What a great game from Lyon...
I think Barcelona-Chelski was a great game too but I couldn't see it...
What happened to the red devils ???? I'm really surprised... Can someone explain me ?
An excellent result for Lyon yes. Good to see Chelski lose twice in one week. I hope they lose 3 in a row as they are playing Liverpool in the Carling Cup final in Cardiff next Sunday! Can't wait for the weekend what with the cup final plus the France v Wales Rugby Six Nations match. Are u a rugby fan too frenchie?

[frenchfan]

An excellent result for Lyon yes. Good to see Chelski lose twice in one week. I hope they lose 3 in a row as they are playing Liverpool in the Carling Cup final in Cardiff next Sunday! Can't wait for the weekend what with the cup final plus the France v Wales Rugby Six Nations match. Are u a rugby fan too frenchie?Well I hope the Reds will defeat Chelski... You'll never walk alone !!!! Go Reds !!!

I like Rugby too, especially the 6 nations tournament and the world cup... But I won't say I'm a good analyst about rugby ...
This year I think France was lucky... We played badly but we won against Scotland and England... It was a surprise because I thought England were better than us currently (we had a lot of injured players and we don't find our game... I mean, France is well knowned to play a kind of rugby and we were not able to do it).... Now, Wales won 2 in a row and I think it's a very good team... I've got a lot of respect for this team. It will be tough for the frenchies... We have to play really better than the 2 previous game if we want to beat Wales... Ireland is good too currently...
Now I think if we are able to play like we played Australia some months ago, we can beat Wales and Ireland... But we also can play like we played against Argentina and New Zealand... And if so, I think Wales or Ireland will win the tournament...

[welshbronco]

Well I hope the Reds will defeat Chelski... You'll never walk alone !!!! Go Reds !!!

I like Rugby too, especially the 6 nations tournament and the world cup... But I won't say I'm a good analyst about rugby ...
This year I think France was lucky... We played badly but we won against Scotland and England... It was a surprise because I thought England were better than us currently (we had a lot of injured players and we don't find our game... I mean, France is well knowned to play a kind of rugby and we were not able to do it).... Now, Wales won 2 in a row and I think it's a very good team... I've got a lot of respect for this team. It will be tough for the frenchies... We have to play really better than the 2 previous game if we want to beat Wales... Ireland is good too currently...
Now I think if we are able to play like we played Australia some months ago, we can beat Wales and Ireland... But we also can play like we played against Argentina and New Zealand... And if so, I think Wales or Ireland will win the tournament...
Six nations and World cup is when I enjoy rugby most too. I don't follow club rugby that much unless a welsh club happens to bo doing well in the Heineken Cup competition(which sadly is not the case this year).
I think the France v Wales game is a hard one to call. We were over the moon about beating England (hehe) and grateful to France for doing the same. But facing the strong French forwards and playing away is going to be very tough. Let's hope it's an entertaining open game.

[Den21-Bal19]

[QUOTE=frenchfan]Well I hope the Reds will defeat Chelski... You'll never walk alone !!!! Go Reds !!!

I like Rugby too, especially the 6 nations tournament and the world cup... But I won't say I'm a good analyst about rugby ...
This year I think France was lucky... We played badly but we won against Scotland and England... It was a surprise because I thought England were better than us currently (we had a lot of injured players and we don't find our game/QUOTE]


Thanks for the good wishes, it should be a good game. At least we won't be 'walking through a storm' as the roof's going to be closed on Sunday, which will be a first for me. Maybe NJ can give me a tip or two about indoor games!

As for the 'Six' Nations, I still can't get used to it. I used to really love rugby, maybe even more than soccer, but I just can't get used to playing Italy every year. While I wouldn't quite go as far as to say England are a one-man team, if Johnny Wilkinson had been handling the kicking duties then I think the result may have been a bit different. Realistically speaking though, England are not the same team that won the world cup, a lot of the team have now retired especially from the pack, and they especially miss Martin Johnson, he could single handedly drag the team kicking and screaming to the desire result. Hopefully we're concentrating on rebuilding the side to defend our title.

[welshbronco]

Well I hope the Reds will defeat Chelski... You'll never walk alone !!!! Go Reds !!!

I like Rugby too, especially the 6 nations tournament and the world cup... But I won't say I'm a good analyst about rugby ...
This year I think France was lucky... We played badly but we won against Scotland and England... It was a surprise because I thought England were better than us currently (we had a lot of injured players and we don't find our game... I mean, France is well knowned to play a kind of rugby and we were not able to do it).... Now, Wales won 2 in a row and I think it's a very good team... I've got a lot of respect for this team. It will be tough for the frenchies... We have to play really better than the 2 previous game if we want to beat Wales... Ireland is good too currently...
Now I think if we are able to play like we played Australia some months ago, we can beat Wales and Ireland... But we also can play like we played against Argentina and New Zealand... And if so, I think Wales or Ireland will win the tournament...
Wow! What a game of rugby! I thought Wales were dead and buried halftime but they made an amazing comeback. A game of two halves if ever there was one! Not a good night to be French but the Welsh (including my little sister who was lucky enough to get a ticket) will be celebrating all over Paris tonight. I hope the Reds win tommorow now to complete a gr8 weekend.

[Den21-Bal19]

Wow! What a game of rugby! I thought Wales were dead and buried halftime but they made an amazing comeback. A game of two halves if ever there was one! Not a good night to be French but the Welsh (including my little sister who was lucky enough to get a ticket) will be celebrating all over Paris tonight. I hope the Reds win tommorow now to complete a gr8 weekend.

Congrats, a good result for you today. Wales for the Grand Slam? I didn't see the game, pulled a 12 hour shift at work today :(

Looking forward to tomorrow, I just hope you haven't blown all our luck today :D

[welshbronco]

Congrats, a good result for you today. Wales for the Grand Slam? I didn't see the game, pulled a 12 hour shift at work today :(

Looking forward to tomorrow, I just hope you haven't blown all our luck today :D
Thanks Den21. Have a gr8 day tommorow and give us a wave from the crowd - I'll be watching all afternoon on SkySports!

[Den21-Bal19]

Thanks Den21. Have a gr8 day tommorow and give us a wave from the crowd - I'll be watching all afternoon on SkySports!


That's not completely up to me, Stevie & the boys really need to turn it on! I've got a great seat, just to the left of our goal, about 6 rows back, hopefully I'll be able to suck a couple past Cech into the travelling Kop.

You'll Never Walk Alone :D

[welshbronco]

Congrats, a good result for you today. Wales for the Grand Slam? I didn't see the game, pulled a 12 hour shift at work today :(

Looking forward to tomorrow, I just hope you haven't blown all our luck today :D
Unfortunately our luck ran out! Liverpool did well to hang on after that 1st minute goal by Riise but then Chelsea had to get lucky with Stevie G's own goal. Goals by Drogba and Kezman in extra time finished us off. I thought there was a glimmer of hope when Nunez struck back with about 8 mins to go but it was not to be. Plenty of drama though especially with Mourinho being sent off for inciting the crowd!

[Den21-Bal19]

Unfortunately our luck ran out! Liverpool did well to hang on after that 1st minute goal by Riise but then Chelsea had to get lucky with Stevie G's own goal. Goals by Drogba and Kezman in extra time finished us off. I thought there was a glimmer of hope when Nunez struck back with about 8 mins to go but it was not to be. Plenty of drama though especially with Mourinho being sent off for inciting the crowd!

Just got back (via the pub & chinese!). Absolutely gutted at the result, but we got we deserved the way that we played the second half. Absolute Garbage!

Nice stadium though

[frenchfan]

Wow! What a game of rugby! I thought Wales were dead and buried halftime but they made an amazing comeback. A game of two halves if ever there was one! Not a good night to be French but the Welsh (including my little sister who was lucky enough to get a ticket) will be celebrating all over Paris tonight. I hope the Reds win tommorow now to complete a gr8 weekend.Congrats to Wales... It's funny that French team played its best game during the 6 Nations... But D was not good and the beginning of the 2nd half was awful and killed us... Wales have a good team, I knew that... At least, it was a good game and we could have won it... But that's the game... Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose... Now, it's all about Wales vs Ireland...
I'm glad to see France playing better.. Our goal is the WOrld cup... We have good players but we need more concentration and disciple...

Too bad for the reds... :(

[welshbronco]

Congrats to Wales... It's funny that French team played its best game during the 6 Nations... But D was not good and the beginning of the 2nd half was awful and killed us... Wales have a good team, I knew that... At least, it was a good game and we could have won it... But that's the game... Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose... Now, it's all about Wales vs Ireland...
I'm glad to see France playing better.. Our goal is the WOrld cup... We have good players but we need more concentration and disciple...

Too bad for the reds... :(
Merci beaucoup Frenchie! The French were excellent in the 1st half yes. How is the country reacting to losing but playing beautifully? We in Wales have had plenty of experience of that over the past few years!
Grrr . . . Chelski!

[Den21-Bal19]

Merci beaucoup Frenchie! The French were excellent in the 1st half yes. How is the country reacting to losing but playing beautifully? We in Wales have had plenty of experience of that over the past few years!
Grrr . . . Chelski!

What price are you going to give me on England for the wooden spoon? Wales for the Grand Slam?

I've posted this on another thread, but the travelling Kop set a new record for the loudest crowd noise recorded in the world!! Beating the 4 1/2 year old record set by the Denver Broncos. Weird!

As I said before, at the game I thought that Chel$h!t deserved the win, but I'm so p!$$ed after watching the highlight last night. We Woz Robbed.

[welshbronco]

What price are you going to give me on England for the wooden spoon? Wales for the Grand Slam?

I've posted this on another thread, but the travelling Kop set a new record for the loudest crowd noise recorded in the world!! Beating the 4 1/2 year old record set by the Denver Broncos. Weird!

As I said before, at the game I thought that Chel$h!t deserved the win, but I'm so p!$$ed after watching the highlight last night. We Woz Robbed.
I dunno! Before the 6 nations began I think a million to one would have been fair odds! I'm a bit nervous about the Wales game against Scotland. I hope that doesn't prove to be a banana skin. As for England getting the wooden spoon - no way! They can't possibly lose to Italy - can they?!
Brilliant about the travelling Kop getting the record for being the noisiest. I'd seen on the welsh news they were planning to measure the noise levels of both sets of fans. I knew Chelski had no hope noise wise just a pity we couldn't just do it goal wise as well!

[Den21-Bal19]

I dunno! Before the 6 nations began I think a million to one would have been fair odds! I'm a bit nervous about the Wales game against Scotland. I hope that doesn't prove to be a banana skin. As for England getting the wooden spoon - no way! They can't possibly lose to Italy - can they?!
Brilliant about the travelling Kop getting the record for being the noisiest. I'd seen on the welsh news they were planning to measure the noise levels of both sets of fans. I knew Chelski had no hope noise wise just a pity we couldn't just do it goal wise as well!

Even at the end, the rendition of YNWA when the team came over to the 'Kop' was drowning out the cockneys. :D

We had a great day, just a shame about the result. :mad:

[frenchfan]

Merci beaucoup Frenchie! The French were excellent in the 1st half yes. How is the country reacting to losing but playing beautifully? We in Wales have had plenty of experience of that over the past few years!
Grrr . . . Chelski!You're welcome... Well, we are disapointed about this game, but proud to made (and saw) a great game... Wales was just better and took their chance when we let Welsh team playing... There is no shame ... just disapointment... I know Wales weren't very lucky these past years... Now it's your turn... Nothing wrong about that...
Sports are just games... And sometimes, even when you lose, you are winners... French team was applaused after the game vs Wales despite the fact we lose... It was not the same after our victory against Scotland... So... I hope you understand what I mean...

Talking about Chelski ? Well, I really hate the coach... He was crying after the loose at Barcelona... I heard he was put out of the game against the Reds ? What's happened ?
I'm really sad this team lead teh First League... Not for the players, but I can't stand the coach's attitude... He is not fair !

[welshbronco]

You're welcome... Well, we are disapointed about this game, but proud to made (and saw) a great game... Wales was just better and took their chance when we let Welsh team playing... There is no shame ... just disapointment... I know Wales weren't very lucky these past years... Now it's your turn... Nothing wrong about that...
Sports are just games... And sometimes, even when you lose, you are winners... French team was applaused after the game vs Wales despite the fact we lose... It was not the same after our victory against Scotland... So... I hope you understand what I mean...

Talking about Chelski ? Well, I really hate the coach... He was crying after the loose at Barcelona... I heard he was put out of the game against the Reds ? What's happened ?
I'm really sad this team lead teh First League... Not for the players, but I can't stand the coach's attitude... He is not fair !
It's good that the French team were applaudaded after such a performance. According to the media over here Bernard Laporte is not very popular with the supporters and some even speculating his job may be at risk.
You are right that Mourinho is not one ot the nicer managers in football. He is incredibly arrogant. He was sent off for gesturing to the crowd after Chelski equalized with Stevie G's own goal. He turned to the crowd with his finger to his lips as if trying to shush them and sort of sending the message "that'l shut u up!". There was also an incident before that where he was shouting abuse at Jamie Carragher from the touchline telling him to "f*** off". So I think the sending off was an accumulation of both incident really.

[Den21-Bal19]

You are right that Mourinho is not one ot the nicer managers in football. He is incredibly arrogant. He was sent off for gesturing to the crowd after Chelski equalized with Stevie G's own goal. He turned to the crowd with his finger to his lips as if trying to shush them and sort of sending the message "that'l shut u up!". There was also an incident before that where he was shouting abuse at Jamie Carragher from the touchline telling him to "f*** off". So I think the sending off was an accumulation of both incident really.

I've got to admit that I quite like Moaninho. I loved it last year when danced a jig down the touch line at Castle Greyskull when Porto beat the Munsters, so I can't really complain about what he did on Sunday. He has done himself some harm though in the last few weeks, the one that really annoyed me was his gesticulating & complaining to the officials over Deco's diving. I wonder where he learnt that trick?

I do think he was bang out of order shouting abuse at Carra, that being said he's either incredibly brave (or dumb) 'cause Carra would chew him up without breaking a sweat!

It seems that it was actually the police, not the match officials, that told Moaninho to leave the pitch, although the 4th official is saying today that he was going to ask Bennet to send him off anyway.

And no, my voice still isn't right!

[welshbronco]

I've got to admit that I quite like Moaninho. I loved it last year when danced a jig down the touch line at Castle Greyskull when Porto beat the Munsters, so I can't really complain about what he did on Sunday. He has done himself some harm though in the last few weeks, the one that really annoyed me was his gesticulating & complaining to the officials over Deco's diving. I wonder where he learnt that trick?

I do think he was bang out of order shouting abuse at Carra, that being said he's either incredibly brave (or dumb) 'cause Carra would chew him up without breaking a sweat!

It seems that it was actually the police, not the match officials, that told Moaninho to leave the pitch, although the 4th official is saying today that he was going to ask Bennet to send him off anyway.

And no, my voice still isn't right!
He definitely is entertaining! You either love him or hate him I think. I couldn't stand him at the beginning of the season now I'm not so sure. He's not as sweet as old Ranieri though (poor thing). I loved his silly laugh!

[Den21-Bal19]

He definitely is entertaining! You either love him or hate him I think. I couldn't stand him at the beginning of the season now I'm not so sure. He's not as sweet as old Ranieri though (poor thing). I loved his silly laugh!

Just showed what a freak show Chelski are. Ranieri was fantastic last season, and conducted himself with a great deal of dignity. Even though he's got the boot from Valencia, he's too good a person to be messed around by Chelsea.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Another big round of matches tonight!!!

AC Milan vs. Man.....Van Nistelrooy should be in much better shape now then last time these two played...how has he done in the premiership in between?

Neville and Saha have been ruled out for Man. U.
Jaap Stam should be back to bolster a strong Milan defence. (Maldini's, Nesta, Stam, Cafu)...however, i hear that a lot is being made of Manure's coem from behind victory in the second leg a few years ago against Juve in the delle alpi....I think that was a one time thing. We'll see.

Lyon will be hard-pressed NOT to make it on to the next round.

Barca and Chelsea should be interesting, no? I've heard that the barca coach was complaining in regards to the umpire for the game?

[Den21-Bal19]

Another big round of matches tonight!!!

AC Milan vs. Man.....Van Nistelrooy should be in much better shape now then last time these two played...how has he done in the premiership in between?

Neville and Saha have been ruled out for Man. U.
Jaap Stam should be back to bolster a strong Milan defence. (Maldini's, Nesta, Stam, Cafu)...however, i hear that a lot is being made of Manure's coem from behind victory in the second leg a few years ago against Juve in the delle alpi....I think that was a one time thing. We'll see.

Lyon will be hard-pressed NOT to make it on to the next round.

Barca and Chelsea should be interesting, no? I've heard that the barca coach was complaining in regards to the umpire for the game?

To be honest I'm not sure how van Diverboy's being doing since he came back, all I know is that he hasn't scored against two of the weakest teams in the Prem . Rooney scored twice a week ago in a 2-1 win for them, but they only managed a 0-0 thisweekend. I've got to go with an Italian defence there. (BTW I notice you're slipping into ABU speak there :laugh: )

I'd agree whole heartedly about Lyon, since they're at home they can't even get lost on the way to the ground.

This whole row between Chelski & Barca's getting a bit annoying to be honest. Moaninhio said he saw Rjikard (sp) going into the ref's room at h/t in the 1st leg, which is a no-no. Drogba then got sent off, cue another Portuguese whine. Then he accuses Barca's players of diving, well guess who Deco learnt that trick under?
Yup, he picked up his bad habits at Porto. Now who was their manager last year?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Milan are through!!! now if only Juve can somehow pull off the a victory against Real..theymust hold them scoreless.

Lyon are through...7-2! :eek:

And what a win for Chelsea!

[welshbronco]

Milan are through!!! now if only Juve can somehow pull off the a victory against Real..theymust hold them scoreless.

Lyon are through...7-2! :eek:

And what a win for Chelsea!
Well done Milan beating Manure! Some performance by Chelski and that Lyon score - what were they doing - playing rugby?! :goofy:

[Den21-Bal19]

Milan are through!!! now if only Juve can somehow pull off the a victory against Real..theymust hold them scoreless.

Lyon are through...7-2! :eek:

And what a win for Chelsea!

Well done Milan & Lyon, Barca, you've let me down :mad: What went on at the end of the Chelski game? I saw Ronaldiniho being restrained by some UEFA officials, looked like it was kicking off on the sidelines.


COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS

YNWA!

[Den21-Bal19]

Another night of big games. To go through -

Arsenal 1-3 Bayern: Sorry Gunners, but I just can't see them keeping a clean sheet against the Germans.

Monaco 0-1 PSV: Typical tactical European game, 1-0 on the night and overtime.

Juventus 0-1 Real Madrid: Real to go through, possibly on away goals.

Leverkusen 1 - 3 Liverpool: Purely depends on who scores first. If Beyer get an early goal, I think Liverpool's lack of options will cost them. If Liverpool get keep it to 0-0 by halftime, I think we'll go through.

Off to get some supplies ( :beer: ), catch you later


COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS - YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Juve wins 2-0 :D

[Den21-Bal19]

Juve wins 2-0 :D

Good though Juve's D is, I just can't see Real not scoring at least once they've just got too many weapons. If Real score, Juve need to win by two clear goals bcause of the away goals rule.


COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS - YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE!

[Den21-Bal19]

All games at half time, or close:

Arsenal 0-0 Bayern Munich (agg. 1-3)
Bayer Leverkusen 0-2 Liverpool (agg. 1-5) Luis Garcia 26, 32
Juventus 0-0 Real Madrid (agg. 0-1)
Monaco 0-1 PSV Eindhoven (agg. 0-2) Vennegoor 25

If things stay as they are, Munich, Liverpool, Real & PSV to go through.
Inter Milan vs Porto to be played next week.


COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDMEN - YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE

[Den21-Bal19]

Final Scores:

Arsenal 1-0 Bayern Munich (agg. 2-3)
Bayer Leverkusen 1-3 Liverpool (agg. 2-6)
Juventus 1-0 Real Madrid (agg. 1-1)
Monaco 0-2 PSV Eindhoven (agg. 0-3)

Juve have gone to extra time

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

yes, they need a goal right now!!! <gets on knees>

[welshbronco]

Wow! Gr8 result for Liverpool! I didn't expect as many goals. Wow and Juve make it through too - gr8 performance by them.

[welshbronco]

yes, they need a goal right now!!! <gets on knees>
Gr8 praying result NJ!

[Den21-Bal19]

yes, they need a goal right now!!! <gets on knees>

Ask & ye shall recieve. Congrats to Juve!

Through to the quarter finals: PSV, Lyon, Chelski, Liverpool, Munich, AC Milan & Juve. Still to play Inter vs Porto, 1-1 aggregate, Inter with the away goal.

[Den21-Bal19]

Wow! Gr8 result for Liverpool! I didn't expect as many goals. Wow and Juve make it through too - gr8 performance by them.

Bring 'em on, watch out Europe ' Rafa's Mighty Red Army' are on the march.

Did you hear about Rafa going to a bar with the travelling Kop last night?

[welshbronco]

Bring 'em on, watch out Europe ' Rafa's Mighty Red Army' are on the march.

Did you hear about Rafa going to a bar with the travelling Kop last night?
Good on Rafa! When's the draw for the next stage?

[Den21-Bal19]

Good on Rafa! When's the draw for the next stage?

Draw's a week on Friday, as far as I know there's no seeding, it's just a straight draw.
The draw has been put back a week because the Inter vs Porto is being played next week, because UEFA didn't want 2 games on consecutive nights on the San Siro pitch.

Call me stupid, but why didn't they just change the order of the legs for one of the games? :confused:

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Juve wins 2-0 :D
:beer: :beer:

It was a birthday wish come true!!!!!!!!!!!

[welshbronco]

:beer: :beer:

It was a birthday wish come true!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy Birthday NJ! :cheers: It was my little sis's birthday yesterday too - she's exactly one day older than u!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Happy Birthday NJ! :cheers: It was my little sis's birthday yesterday too - she's exactly one day older than u!
Hehe...thanks welsh!!!

exactly one day older? she's 24 yesterday?

[welshbronco]

Yup! Oh to be 24 again . . . :D

[Den21-Bal19]

Happy Birthday NJ, looks like you got an early present :D

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Happy Birthday NJ, looks like you got an early present :D
indeedy! :beer:

[frenchfan]

Milan are through!!! now if only Juve can somehow pull off the a victory against Real..theymust hold them scoreless.

Lyon are through...7-2! :eek:

And what a win for Chelsea!Lyon played a great game ! Amazing, wonderful !!

I have to say that the 4th goal of Chelski is not good : there is a holding on Barcelona's goalkeeper... But Barça collapsed himself because of their really bad beginning of the game !

Arsenal... grrr !!! With couldn't they score anotehr goal ???

Milan and Juve... Thanks Trezegoal for Juve...

Monaco wasn't able to play a physical and tactical PSV ... A team that is really hard to play IMO.

The Reds !!! yeahhh...

Hey, you, rugby fans, waht do u think of the French victory in Ireland ?
Wales played really good against Scotland... I think they 'll win the 6 Nations... I think they'll beat Ireland next week...
Wales have a good team with a good D... They defeat us in Paris (now I'm angry about those 10 minutes while French team didn't play well.. LOL)...

What's your pick ?

[welshbronco]

The Champions League next stage should be really interesting. I can't wait for the draw. I'm grateful to France for beating Ireland and helping Wales on their way. :D I really didn't expect Wales to beat Scotland so easily as we've always struggled at Murrayfield in the past. I think next weekends games should be very interesting and the game between Ireland and Wales very hard fought. I've no idea which way that game will go. Is it Italy that France play next? I can understand you being angry with France Frenchie. At time their play has been scintillating (the best in the tournament) but they have also been too inconsistent.

[Den21-Bal19]

First things first, Inter have to play Porto to complete the lineup tomorrow night. One all from the first leg, with Inter having the advantage of the away goal. Who do you think will go through, and who would you prefer to get in the draw? Personally I'd like Porto to go through (sorry NJ :D ), and then we get either Porto or PSV in the quarters. I don't want AC, Chelski or Lyon.

Any preferences?

[welshbronco]

I'd like the reds to play psv next stage.

[Den21-Bal19]

My bad, Inter vs Porto kicks off in about 40minutes! Sorry!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

That's ok..i'm content with italian teams having knocked off madrid and manure...not bad for a round's work!
I suppose knocking off a finalist from last year would be frosting on the cake!!!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Inter are up in the 6th minute on a goal by Adriano!

[Den21-Bal19]

Inter are up in the 6th minute on a goal by Adriano!

Oh well, that's probably game over. You can go sleep through the second half :D

[Den21-Bal19]

I got it wrong!!!!!!!!!!! Some excitment in the 2nd half as Adriano completes a hatrick for a 3-1 win (4-2aggregate)

Through to the draw:

AC Milan (Italy)
Bayern Munich (Germany)
Chelsea (England)
Inter Milan (Italy)
Juventus (Italy)
Liverpool (England)
Olympique Lyon (France)
PSV Eindhoven (Netherlands)

The draw is this Friday, at 12:00 CET (08:00 Eastern?). Draw decides the remaining matches, as far as I know no seedings.

Congrats NJ, 3 sides in the last eight :D

[caveatemptor]

As a long time Bayern fan I have to say that my boys along with AC Milan and Chelsea look to be the strongest side left in the pool. If we avoid one of these two, I feel VERY confident that we'll reach the next phase. If though by chance we draw one of those two I'd have to put our chances at 50/50. I would also like to see PSV do well because Beasley plays there - he even nabbed a goal in the second leg of their tie vs Monaco. That's stellar that we have a player scoring and playing like a world class player on the biggest stage for club soccer in the world - this bodes very well for the Nats.

Forza Bayern