My prayers(and yours should to) go out to M. Rivera

[OrangeShadow]

According to a team source, the accident involved an electric fence surrounding a swimming pool at Rivera's home. Two people, believed to be members of Rivera's wife's family, were killed when they were electrocuted.

Relatives of Rivera's family told The Associated Press that the two people were a cousin of Rivera's wife and his 14-year-old son. The teenager appeared to have touched an electric wire while cleaning the pool, while his father died trying to save him.



sad sad event.

[Vulcan]

Why would you have an electric fence near a pool? :confused:

[Booher]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Why would you have an electric fence near a pool? :confused:

exactly!!!!!!!!!

[Vulcan]

:eek: Booher and I agree on something. :eek:

[mattos]

i've been shocked by a fence designed to keep cows in. it hurt, but wouldn't have killed me.

i've got a feeling a fence maker is about to get sued for a faulty product.

[Vulcan]

It wasn't faulty, it was doing the job it was set out to do. It's the consumer's idiotic move to place it near a pool.

[margerafanisbac]

i can think of about 10 better places to put an electric fence....but i wont go there

[heaney]

Originally posted by mattos
i've been shocked by a fence designed to keep cows in. it hurt, but wouldn't have killed me.

were you in water at the time? its like dropping a plugged in appliance into the tub with you

[mattos]

Originally posted by heaney
were you in water at the time? its like dropping a plugged in appliance into the tub with you

i'm no electrician, but why would being in water increase the power of the shock. i mean, if you drop an appliance into a tub you are getting the full shock from the outlet - but that can kill you whether or not you are in water.

[mattos]

Originally posted by Vulcan
It wasn't faulty, it was doing the job it was set out to do. It's the consumer's idiotic move to place it near a pool.

i don't know about that - i've got a feeling that electrical fences that can kill people are illegal - just like having a trap on your property is illegal (a gun set up to fire when a door is opened for instance).

[Booher]

Originally posted by mattos
i don't know about that - i've got a feeling that electrical fences that can kill people are illegal - just like having a trap on your property is illegal (a gun set up to fire when a door is opened for instance).

exactly exactly...........I'm sorry i cannot and will not feel sorry for THE STUPID

[thehoot79]

I have trouble having sympathy for people who die because of their stupid decisions. Who puts an electric fence within touching distance of a swimming pool? Hopefully, Rivera stays in Panama for about two weeks, then the Red Sox can finally go to the World Series.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

As far as this electric fence around the pool...I don't know too much about it, but I do know we're talking about Panama....it's not quite as safe probably as the pool you have in your backyard...there are probably a lot more theives, etc. around, hence the need for more security...IDK.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by thehoot79
I have trouble having sympathy for people who die because of their stupid decisions. Who puts an electric fence within touching distance of a swimming pool? Hopefully, Rivera stays in Panama for about two weeks, then the Red Sox can finally go to the World Series.
FAT CHANCE! Rivera WILL be ready for the championship series.
You can keep your fingers crossed though....

[mattos]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
As far as this electric fence around the pool...I don't know too much about it, but I do know we're talking about Panama....it's not quite as safe probably as the pool you have in your backyard...there are probably a lot more theives, etc. around, hence the need for more security...IDK.

oh it was in panama? well then that kind of fence probably is legal. they probably have crocodiles in the pool too (<-- ignorant).

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by mattos
oh it was in panama? well then that kind of fence probably is legal. they probably have crocodiles in the pool too (<-- ignorant).
maybe...i know of late in venezuala kidnapping family members of baseball players has become a major problem.

[Uula Bear]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
maybe...i know of late in venezuala kidnapping family members of baseball players has become a major problem.

that's sick how ppl could do that. you'd think in little countrys like those they'd celibrate and honor the ones that make it to the bigs.

[mattos]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
maybe...i know of late in venezuala kidnapping family members of baseball players has become a major problem.

yeah i've heard about that. hell, i'd have a fence like that too if i was in a place like that. although it wouldn't be close to the pool.

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by mattos
yeah i've heard about that. hell, i'd have a fence like that too if i was in a place like that. although it wouldn't be close to the pool.
I totally agree, however, while reading over the article on espn.com, I don't see any mention of a fence...it just says the child "apparently touched an electrical wire while tending to the pool" ....still no reason for something like this to be around the pool, but we clearly don't know all the facts.

[horsesense]

Could've been anything really. The light in the pool, an elec. cord. Too bad. My thoughts and prayers go out to him and the family..

[Perry1977]

Who is Rivera?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by Perry1977
Who is Rivera?
Mariano Rivera...he's the closer for the NY Yankees...one of the best of all-time, and probably the best reliever in playoff history...definitely the best since I've been alive.

[horsesense]

Not to hijack your thread there Bro, but you ever hear of a HOFer named Dennis Eckersly? He was the best Ive seen so far. Played for the freakin A's tho... Gibson took him deep in a WS one year, Im sure youve seen the highlight..:eek:

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by horsesense
Not to hijack your thread there Bro, but you ever hear of a HOFer named Dennis Eckersly? He was the best Ive seen so far. Played for the freakin A's tho... Gibson took him deep in a WS one year, Im sure youve seen the highlight..:eek:
Yea, i've heard of Dennis Eckersly...of course...even won the Cy Young one year if memory serves me correctly. He was definitely a good one, but Mariano has the good fortune to play for the team that's always going far into the playoffs.

[horsesense]

but Mariano has the good fortune to play for the team that's always going far into the playoffs.
Exactly!

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

but regardless, he gets it done.
First all-time in W.S. saves with 9...Eckersly doesn't even have 3.
Number 10 all-time in W.S. Era with at 1.16 in 31.0 innings
Eckersly has given up 3 runs in 4 2/3 innings in the W.S.

Rivera has 17 saves in the W.S. and ALCS (30 if you include ALDS)
Eckersly has 15.
so there!:cheeky: :D

[horsesense]

Uh-huh your almost as good as spinning things in your favor as raider fan. ;) Since you went to all the trouble why not post all the #s then? I mean Eckersly is hardly my favorite player (did i mention he played for the oakland A's), but he didnt exactly kiss the sports writers ass's to get elected to the HOF did he?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

What other numbers would you like?
World Series ERA - Rivera, 1.16
Eckersly, somewhere around 6.

[horsesense]

Doesnt matter really, I just wanted to bust your ass for being such a lil stat biatch..;) :D

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

:cheeky:

[orangenblue420]

Just a quick comment or two - First it was in Panama and no details have been release so to say there shouldnt be any sympathy for their stupidty is lame - accidents happen every day here in America - it doesnt mean you cant feel sorry for someone when they or a family member dies in one :rolleyes:

Next - Mariano IS the best reliever in the history of baseball - PERIOD for years he was unhittable - save the last couple years - when he came in you KNEW the game was over

THe basbeball world has been hit by a double tragedy this weekend with this and Camenetti

My prayers are with everyone

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by orangenblue420
Just a quick comment or two - First it was in Panama and no

Next - Mariano IS the best reliever in the history of baseball - PERIOD for years he was unhittable - save the last couple years - when he came in you KNEW the game was over


Sorry to break it to you OB, but that's still the case...when Mariano blows a save, it's usually because the hitter was lucky enough to hit a lil bloop (i.e.- Luis Gonzalez).
SO YOUR WRONG!;)

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

oh, and by the way...look who decided to show up today. (And i better not hear you say that you had off yesterday for Christopher Columbus day)

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Via private jet, expected to be in NY for *1 tonight. Can already see how this plays out: If he pitches poorly, the trip gets the blame; if he pitches well, it's a mystique-builder.

[horsesense]

Remember the 2002 ADS. Wasnt it the Angels that beat the crap outta the Yankees, and wasnt Mariano a Yankee then.:cheeky:
Pull your stats out on that one. <hee hee>:D

[orangenblue420]

Originally posted by NJBRONCOSFAN
Sorry to break it to you OB, but that's still the case...when Mariano blows a save, it's usually because the hitter was lucky enough to hit a lil bloop (i.e.- Luis Gonzalez).
SO YOUR WRONG!

OK homer - :rolleyes: Wake up and smell the coffee - Mariano has lost the "edge" he once had - at one point in his career it was a given when he came in the game was over - today its just not like that - so :cheeky:

And I didnt take off yesterday cause of Columbus day (they dont celebrate that in Oklahomer ) its cause i was/am sick :(

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by orangenblue420

And I didnt take off yesterday cause of Columbus day (they dont celebrate that in Oklahomer ) its cause i was/am sick :(
Aww, I'm sorry....














and by the way...DON"T YOU EVER CALL ME A HOMER AGAIN, YOU HOMER!:fight:

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by horsesense
Remember the 2002 ADS. Wasnt it the Angels that beat the crap outta the Yankees, and wasnt Mariano a Yankee then.:cheeky:
Pull your stats out on that one. <hee hee>:D
OH, you asked for it horsie boy!
Mariano pitched one inning in that series...and got a save!
maybe the reason you guys won is because you didn't have to face teh best closer of ALL-TIME!!!!

[horsesense]

Your both a couple of Yankee HOMERS if there ever was..
Freakin Homers!!!
BTW hard to get your closer in the game when your having your ass handed to you huh?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Ok...i'm done with this argument...what can i say?
Maybe you should go find Vlad, Percival, Troy, or Timmy and see if they want to play some golf? I'm sure they got lots of free time on their hands.:D

[horsesense]

Aight, thats it.. Whats the wager then?:D

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by horsesense
Aight, thats it.. Whats the wager then?:D
Well, I'd love to do a bottle of alcohol, but obviously, that's not gonna work....any ideas?

[horsesense]

$$$, then you can buy either a bottle, or a pack of your favorite smoke(s)..:D

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

ok. 50 bucks sound good?
If not, you wanna do more or less?

[horsesense]

Sounds good to me.. (Cant believe Im puttin 50 on the Sox tho.) Where ya at SC? We need to build up some Karma against these Yankee Bisterds..

[orangenblue420]

Originally posted by horsesense
Sounds good to me.. (Cant believe Im puttin 50 on the Sox tho.) Where ya at SC? We need to build up some Karma against these Yankee Bisterds..

You guys are gettin to rich for my blood - I do have two kids to support - sheesh - I want in but I cant do $50 - any other suggestions- I have nice little wager with SC goin - but it wont work with you horsie - so we need to come up with a lil suttin suttin -

PS Jessica Simpson is playing right now - LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[horsesense]

any other suggestions
A pic of you in that Broncos halter would work for me.:D

[orangenblue420]

Originally posted by horsesense
A pic of you in that Broncos halter would work for me.:D

:laugh:

If the Yanks lose - I could post a pic of me wearin the ALCS Champs Red Sux tee-shirt I have to get SC - Hows that? (although it will be for the adult viewing audience only - cause I am gonna be stickin up BOTH middle fingers - LOL)

[horsesense]

Of course, I wouldnt expect anything less. Whadda ya want from me?

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by horsesense
Of course, I wouldnt expect anything less. Whadda ya want from me?
Two words....'Banana hammock'

:D

[orangenblue420]

Originally posted by horsesense
Of course, I wouldnt expect anything less. Whadda ya want from me? hmmm well if they win I will already be getting a ALCS tee shirt from SC - so from you - I would like the WS tee shirt when they win that - if they dont win the WS then we can figure somethin else out - sound good?

[horsesense]

You got it gorgeous...:)

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

Originally posted by horsesense
Sounds good to me.. (Cant believe Im puttin 50 on the Sox tho.) Where ya at SC? We need to build up some Karma against these Yankee Bisterds..
Horsie....you know who to make the check out too...get that thing in the mail now! That way i can buy my Yankees world series cap and have it for next monday!

[horsesense]

Im gonna send the $$ to X-Factor, and hell buy the cap and send right out to ya, ok?:rolleyes: ;) :D

[NJBRONCOSFAN]

wait, is he gonna take a picture with said check and post it on this site?

[horsesense]

Thats what he said...:D