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Hesky
04-12-2012, 10:36 AM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828421b6/article/demaryius-thomas-doesnt-sound-like-hell-miss-tebow?module=HP11_headline_stack
The last time we heard from DeMaryius Thomas, he was in the process of sending Tebowmania into the stratosphere.
Yes, it was Tim Tebow who threw that famous slant pass in overtime of the wild-card game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, but Thomas deserves the lion's share of credit. His catch, run and dehumanizing stiff arm of Ike Taylor was a study in big-play receiving.
In an interview with 790 The Zone in Atlanta on Wednesday, Thomas didn't sound too broken up to trade out Tebow for Peyton Manning.
"I ain’t going to say I was sad because the only thing they remember is that pass," said Thomas (via SportsRadioInterviews.com), taking a different perspective than teammate Von Miller. "You gotta go back and look at the rest of the games. I wasn’t getting no balls and you had to make some of these plays where some players were open and he is not making the throws. But I don’t want to talk bad about Tim, but hey I am happy we got Peyton."
So no, it's unlikely Thomas was in the front row at Tebow's Easter Sunday celebration for the ages. That said, he believes Tebow has the ability to wrest the starting job away from Mark Sanchez in New York.
"I ain’t going to talk bad about Sanchez, but he’s not one of the best quarterbacks in the game," Thomas said. "So I feel good about Tim going out there.”
Is that belief in Tebow or doubt in Sanchez? Let's call it 50/50 and move on.
underrated29
04-12-2012, 10:41 AM
Sanchez sucks. He is close to his maxed out skill set. Tebow is not close to maxing his skill set yet, but he is not as far along as sanchez is either.
I suspect tebow will win the starting job by midseason. If not, then Sanchez will probably have a career year and throw for 31+ tds.
Brohemoth
04-12-2012, 10:44 AM
I'd prefer to hear that Demaryius is joining Decker and Manning to prep for the season, rather than read about his quarterback judgments. I wonder what his plans are.
ERoyal248
04-12-2012, 10:46 AM
I'd prefer to hear that Demaryius is joining Decker and Manning to prep for the season, rather than read about his quarterback judgments. I wonder what his plans are.
He would but he just got a splint off his finger, it's still healing.
Give it time, and he'll be working with them.
ERoyal248
04-12-2012, 10:47 AM
Sanchez sucks. He is close to his maxed out skill set. Tebow is not close to maxing his skill set yet, but he is not as far along as sanchez is either.
I suspect tebow will win the starting job by midseason. If not, then Sanchez will probably have a career year and throw for 31+ tds.
Sanchez is only 25, i wouldn't say he's maxed out his skills. I don't think he'll ever be elite, but not as bad as some say.
I've said it a few times, barring injuries or a bad start by the Jets, Tebow will NOT start this season.
soloking
04-12-2012, 10:52 AM
http://www.milehighreport.com/2012/4/12/2943983/demaryius-thomas-not-sad-to-see-tim-tebow-go
Demaryius Thomas Not Sad To See Tim Tebow Go
Perhaps the biggest beneficiaries of the Broncos move to sign quarterback Peyton Manning are the team's wide receivers. We've already heard form Eric Decker, who is spending his 'off-season' working out with Manning. Demaryius Thomas also figures to benefit. One play will forever link Thomas to former quarterback Tim Tebow, and Thomas will always be asked about Tebow and his departure from the Broncos.
That very question was asked of Thomas on 790 AM The Zone in Atlanta and Thomas - as he has been in the past - was less than glowing in his recollection of the Tebow-era in Denver:
It’s a business decision. I ain’t going to say I was sad because the only thing they remember is that pass. You gotta go back and look at the rest of the games. I wasn’t getting no balls and you had to make some of these plays where some players were open and he is not making the throws, but I don’t want to talk bad about Tim, but hey I am happy we got Peyton.
Star-divide
The questions went further, specifically regarding the players' feelings about Tebow's style of play:
Everybody was talking about…you get some players and had some that said he can’t throw, but if you get open and you get one your way you gotta make the play no matter where the ball is at. Then you had some that said he is a winner. He works hard and just stay with him and you’ll be fine and that was basically it. There wasn’t much talk about him, but you know everything on ESPN was all about Tim. That bothered some players too because they would say ‘Tim Tebow Time.’ I felt like it was a team thing. If it wasn’t for the defense most of the time there wouldn’t be no supposed ‘Tim Tebow Time.’
Agree or disagree, you have to admire Thomas' honesty. Whether there was tension - Thomas says there was not - his comments prove there was something going on in the locker room and the Broncos needed to deal with it, just as they had to deal with the circus off the field.
Hesky
04-12-2012, 10:54 AM
I'd prefer to hear that Demaryius is joining Decker and Manning to prep for the season, rather than read about his quarterback judgments. I wonder what his plans are.
He's still waiting for his finger to be 100%, he's had surgery on it.
To be honest I didn't know that either until about 5 minutes ago :laugh:
Spitfire Riggz
04-12-2012, 10:55 AM
I'd prefer to hear that Demaryius is joining Decker and Manning to prep for the season, rather than read about his quarterback judgments. I wonder what his plans are.
I agree, I don't care about his finger at least be building that chemistry getting to know his new quarterback. He sounds kind of like an ass honestly.
Roddoliver
04-12-2012, 10:56 AM
Appropriate or not, what Thomas said is true. Both statements. Tebow was not making the throws to open receivers (example: week 17) and Tebow can compete with Mark Sanchez and take the job, especially if Sanchez starts to struggle because of the pressure.
getlynched47
04-12-2012, 10:57 AM
I would prefer if Demaryius Thomas kept that stuff to himself. No need to draw the ire of the Tebowmaniacs.
Once national media gets a hold of this, Demaryius Thomas is going to regret saying that :laugh:
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 10:58 AM
I'd prefer to hear that Demaryius is joining Decker and Manning to prep for the season, rather than read about his quarterback judgments. I wonder what his plans are.
Uhhhh he can't be out there yet.
Den615
04-12-2012, 10:58 AM
I'd prefer to hear that Demaryius is joining Decker and Manning to prep for the season, rather than read about his quarterback judgments. I wonder what his plans are.
Like mentioned above, he just had a rod removed from his pinky finger. Although it would be nice for Thomas to attend meetings, practice, etc... with Manning and Decker. Im sure he will be at the upcoming OTA.
There is no doubt that Tebow's teammates loved him as a leader and a player, but it is easy to see why receivers could be frustrated with him as a QB. Thomas was by far our most productive receiver and he has what? 30 receptions? Over a full season he would have been productive, but in the Tebow offense only one receiver was able to put up decent production.
I am excited to see what Manning can do with Thomas, Decker, and Caldwell (who I am high on). That group isn't as strong as Harrison, Wayne, and Stokely. But on a pure talent level it is one of the better groups Manning will have played with. If Thomas can improve as a route runner Manning will make him look like a top 5 receiver.
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 10:59 AM
I would prefer if Demaryius Thomas kept that stuff to himself. No need to draw the ire of the Tebowmaniacs.
Once national media gets a hold of this, Demaryius Thomas is going to regret saying that :laugh:
Psh. Bring em on.
They can cry all the want. He didn't say anything wrong. He spoke the truth.
getlynched47
04-12-2012, 11:01 AM
Psh. Bring em on.
They can cry all the want. He didn't say anything wrong. He spoke the truth.
I know he spoke the truth. He just should've kept it to himself in my opinion. But he'll be getting threats from Tebowmaniacs soon, just watch :laugh:
Broncoyearound
04-12-2012, 11:04 AM
Could be just me speculating here but just read the article on the nfl website. In an interview Thomas basically said he wasn't sad to see Tebow go because everybody just remembers his pass and not the aftermath of it.
He also mentions that he wasn't getting a lot of balls his way and other guys would be open and he would be also and Tim would miss throws and not make the play. Now most of what Thomas talked about is true and I'm not here defending Tebow or anything but my concern is I hope that Thomas isn't turning out to be a future diva.
I get that Tim wasn't the best passer it just worried me on the comments he made and that's what the diva's do. They don't get a lot of balls, then it's gonig to be I'm making the plays and holdouts exc...get the picture.
Thomas seemed humble to me and still is its just the comments rubbed me wrong. Anyone actually hear the interview. It would help me a great bit if I knew the tone of his comments.
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 11:04 AM
I know he spoke the truth. He just should've kept it to himself in my opinion. But he'll be getting threats from Tebowmaniacs soon, just watch :laugh:
no doubt.
but i like it, soft spoken dude, but he'll say what's on his mind.
I think it's pretty funny, he could've kept it to himself sure, but what fun is that? ;)
Once national media gets a hold of this, Demaryius Thomas is going to regret saying that :laugh:
Really? What do you predict is going to happen?
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 11:06 AM
How is this possibly becoming a diva?
He said what was on his mind, the truth. He's a very soft spoken, grateful dude, he is FAR from a Diva.
He didn't get a lot of balls, because frankly, Tebow couldn't locate half of them.
There is nothing wrong with what he said. He's not going to become a Diva (feel free to hold me to that). Making something, out of nothing.
or he could just be an honest kind of guy who give you a straight/honest answer
Mk2_Tebow
04-12-2012, 11:09 AM
I read the article, it was not that bad.
There were many plays that D Thomas was still shaking off the rust from the injury and was not exactly setting the world on fire with separations. Yeah Tebow missed but D Thomas himself did not come on until the Vikings game.
I also remeber the dropped TD bomb in the bears game and the dropped possible TD in the steelers game.
In fact he was in the bottom 10 on catchable drops in the entire NFL. He should maybe care less about other players and work on his own game.
dizzolve
04-12-2012, 11:11 AM
Demaryius Thomas wont miss Tebow
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack
I bet this story is somewhat slanted. Let's face it - really this is not even a story but since someone can add the word Tebow it is
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Ohenhen12345
04-12-2012, 11:12 AM
He is not the only that feels that way. EVen John Elway the boss of the football operations traded Tebow because he didn't believe Tebow was the guy.
dizzolve
04-12-2012, 11:13 AM
yeah it's not that bad BUT
it's obviously not the smartest thing to spout off lol
It provided the impetus to publish this article and that's why he shouldn't have said it - but it's no big deal
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack
Ohenhen12345
04-12-2012, 11:13 AM
I won't miss Tebow on the field but off the field, well will see him hopefully this summer.
dizzolve
04-12-2012, 11:14 AM
I won't miss Tebow on the field but off the field, well will see him hopefully this summer.
Ironically I feel exactly the opposite for the most part
theMileHighGuy
04-12-2012, 11:15 AM
Yeah.... I love to hear my receivers say "I ain't gettin no balls". Guess all that talk of DT being humble and all that other BS were lies. "Selfless", ha. A lot of the guys on the team are still good friends with TT, maybe little TO there shouldn't be throwing people under the bus.
ERoyal248
04-12-2012, 11:15 AM
No big deal, what he said was the truth..
Broncoyearound
04-12-2012, 11:15 AM
I'm not defending Tebow and I could be making something out of nothing but I read a bit more on him and Thomas really went deep into the Tebow thing. We ran the ball a lot last year they didn't let Tebow air it out because they knew he couldn't do it.
Thomas seemed bent out of shape about it and is kind of creating a "me" moment although he insist it's a team thing. I like Thomas and hope I'm wrong but he worded this all bad and it kind of make me scratch my head on him a little. Could be smoke in the water and never surfaces again but I just don't like how he answered the questions. Honest yes but he kind of comes off as a "me" player in the interview. I would really want to listen to that interview until I hear him I can't do nothing but speculate.
Sounds like partial confirmation that Tebow was seen by his own teammates as more of a liability than a benefit.
Broncoyearound
04-12-2012, 11:18 AM
Yeah.... I love to hear my receivers say "I ain't gettin no balls". Guess all that talk of DT being humble and all that other BS were lies. "Selfless", ha. A lot of the guys on the team are still good friends with TT, maybe little TO there shouldn't be throwing people under the bus.
Glad I'm not one of the only ones who think Thomas comments raised an eyebrow or two. I hope he doesn't get that TO in him.
theMileHighGuy
04-12-2012, 11:18 AM
If any other reciever on any other team came out and said "I wasn't gettin no balls" you all would be falling over yourselves to scream diva at him. Especially after 6 months of hearing how selfless they were.
ERoyal248
04-12-2012, 11:18 AM
I read the article, it was not that bad.
There were many plays that D Thomas was still shaking off the rust from the injury and was not exactly setting the world on fire with separations. Yeah Tebow missed but D Thomas himself did not come on until the Vikings game.
I also remeber the dropped TD bomb in the bears game and the dropped possible TD in the steelers game.
In fact he was in the bottom 10 on catchable drops in the entire NFL. He should maybe care less about other players and work on his own game.
The Bears game, eh, i don't quite remember that one, but Tebow just missed that throw.
Don't remember the Steelers pass you are referring too.
As for drops, don't you think some of that is b/c Tebow was really inaccurate, not saying all of the passes were but some of the passes, the WR's had to jump, reach, and try to grab them.
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 11:19 AM
He spoke the truth.
It's obvious WR's aren't going to like being thrown the ball by Tebow.
DT is one of the most humble guys you'll meet. But obviously, when it's your job, you expect to get balls. ESPECIALLY when you are as talented as he is. Calling him selfish, is humorous.
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 11:20 AM
WR speaks the truth about Tebow completely missing open WRs and all of the sudden he's a diva?
lawl
ERoyal248
04-12-2012, 11:21 AM
LOL, what DT said is the truth.
DT is a great person, not a diva like per say TO, Marshall, Dez among others.
WR's want to get thrown the ball, not get 4-5 passes per game, and block most of the time. Nothing wrong with what he said, it's the facts. Can't wait to see DT kill it with Manning.
Yakka27
04-12-2012, 11:23 AM
I can only fight irrationality with irrationality.
Our WRs should want the ball every time a pass play is called, if they didn't I wouldn't want them on the team.
Nothing wrong with wanting the ball.
DT caused no drama on the team during the season, and only commented on it once Tebow was off the team.
I see absolutely no problem with this at all. Stay hungry DT.
broncoFan!
04-12-2012, 11:23 AM
Tebow is one of those guys that is just a different QB. I think imo that he should have chosen Jacksonville over NY because they run the type of offense he would be great in. Wildcat, with MJD would be great with Tebow.
Maybe 15-20 passes thrown the entire game lol, and Tebow would get plenty of opportunities to do what he does best; scramble to his heart's content. Oh well, he's a NY Jet so I guess we will see how he does over there. They normally have a good WR core but unless Tebow improves his throwing motion he is going to have a hard time in the NFL, especially now that teams have game film on him.
Best of luck to you Timmy.
Broncoyearound
04-12-2012, 11:23 AM
I don't care if Thomas misses Tebow or not my concern is with his comments. Tebow is a Jet may he have success but I wouldn't want a reciever in the locker room in the future causing distractions. I'm not saying Thomas will do that and we have a great field general in Manning, so I'm sure Manning will keep distractions at a mininum for us. I just get that eerie feeling in my stomach.
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 11:24 AM
Oh, and by the way, he has every right to be a little scorned about the OT TD. Everyone says "TEBOW THREW AN 80 YARD BOMB TO WIN THE GAME!" when in reality any one of us on here could've completed that pass, but none of us could have done what DT did with the pass after the fact.
Also, props to him for calling out "Tebow Time". I guarantee you he's not the only one that feels that way on the team.
DT will learn much from Manning. One thing he apparently has yet to learn is how to not throw teammates or former teammates under the bus when speaking to the media.
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 11:26 AM
DT tells the truth and there's issues now?
:laugh:
At least he was being honest. And, he was 100% right.
COBronc78
04-12-2012, 11:27 AM
I bet Decker feels the exact same way as Thomas, but he hasn't come out and said it.
Baby T.O? Hahahahhaha, of course Thomas wants more balls. Completing 2 out of 8 passes in a game is going to grow old for the receivers.
Also, listen to the interview. It's not as bad as it was in writing. Thomas was talking about how at the beginning with Tebow, he got no balls and thought that it was going to be a long season but near the end he became the go-to guy and he was happy with it.
Says plenty of positive things to, hilarious seeing some fans throw Thomas under the bus for this.
I respect Thomas for it. He came out and said that if the defense didn't play the way it did, there would be no "Tim Tebow Time"
It's obvious that players in the locker room got tired of hearing Tebow get all the praise for the wins and no one else on the team.
ERoyal248
04-12-2012, 11:28 AM
What are they paying him for? To make pancakes while he's running routes?
WR's are paid to catch the ball, and score TD's. They rarely passed the ball, i'd do the same if i was in his shoes, but my feet aren't as big as his :laugh:
You think Fitz, Andre, or Calvin would like it if they only got 4-5 passes per game, i doubt it.
I have no issues with what DT said, he wants to catch the ball, and score TD's.
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 11:30 AM
Yeah.... I love to hear my receivers say "I ain't gettin no balls". Guess all that talk of DT being humble and all that other BS were lies. "Selfless", ha. A lot of the guys on the team are still good friends with TT, maybe little TO there shouldn't be throwing people under the bus.
He answered a freaking question. Nothing to see here.
broncoFan!
04-12-2012, 11:33 AM
I think it is interesting to note that Demaryius Thomas and the locker room never complained about Orton being QB. Did they get a nicely thrown spiral their way? Yup. Did they get over twenty passes thrown their way? Yup. But still we were a team that managed to beat ourselves i.e. Titans game.
Despite having a 'pro-style' offense we still lost games. I will always have fond memories of Tebow coming in and saving our season. We started off 1-4 and would have probably finished the season 4-12 or 5-11 if Tebow hadn't started. He definitely gave us the spark that we needed.
Good luck in NY Teebs. ;)
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 11:33 AM
Wow. Some of you sound like a bunch of high school drama queens.
Nothing to see here. Tebow is not on the team any more. And Thomas was responding to questions. This isn't a story if Tebow's name isn't involved.
LordOfChaos
04-12-2012, 11:34 AM
I am a little disappointed that all he remembers was the catch in the playoffs.
Personally I remember him dropping the TD against the Bears and Tebow telling him not to worry about it.
At the end of the day though, I dont think its a big deal. I bet these players are getting sick of being asked about Tebow especially now that he is not even on the team any more.
Broncoyearound
04-12-2012, 11:35 AM
Yes Thomas was straight forward. I have no problems with that as much as how he came off while being straight forward. I know what he meant and he wasn't getting a lot of balls but dude do you really have to go on air and dish out all that dirty laundry and complain?
He spoke of team so shouldn't he have supported the offense that was run last year and been like, well I'm not sad to see him go because the offense was tough for me last year as a reciever because there wasn't a lot of opportunities to make plays. Now that we have Manning exc... He could have worded it a lot different.
COBronc78
04-12-2012, 11:36 AM
I am a little disappointed that all he remembers was the catch in the playoffs.
Personally I remember him dropping the TD against the Bears and Tebow telling him not to worry about it.
At the end of the day though, I dont think its a big deal. I bet these players are getting sick of being asked about Tebow especially now that he is not even on the team any more.
If people are commenting on this article, at least listen to the actual interview
http://media.790thezone.com/Podcasts/2447/Demaryius%20Thomas%2004-11-12%20.mp3
Not nearly as bad as it seems. The guy is just answering the questions, Thomas isn't bashing Tebow. He made the right comments regarding on what a NFL team needs from its QB.
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 11:36 AM
Of course we won't hear Tebow saying to the press about how frustrated he was at his receivers for all of the drops on third downs they had.
If Thomas would have caught that go-ahead touchdown pass (that hit him right in the hands) against Chicago, maybe he would have "got more balls."
I sure hope Thomas has enough upstairs to comprehend Peyton's offense, and understand all of the dozens and dozens of audibles and fake audibles he does. If Thomas starts getting confused out there and running the wrong routs, then causes an interception, then for damn sure he "won't be getting no balls."
So yes, comments like this are very Diva-like, especially from a player who hardly produced anything (on the rare occasions he was healthy) when we had the amazing pocket-passer Kyle Orton under center.
broncoFan!
04-12-2012, 11:36 AM
He didn't turn the ball over and was humble enough to accept the fact that he's not a passer.
I hope he loses every game he ever starts. Screw the Jets.
Meh, I used to have the NYJ as my second team until I found out that their fans were turdbags. :shrug: Now the Redskins are my second team lol.
I was actually kind of surprised that Houston or Washington didn't pick him up. He would fit great with Shanny but he's going after RGIII now.
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 11:39 AM
Of course we won't hear Tebow saying to the press about how frustrated he was at his receivers for all of the drops on third downs they had.
If Thomas would have caught that go-ahead touchdown pass (that hit him right in the hands) against Chicago, maybe he would have "got more balls."
I sure hope Thomas has enough upstairs to comprehend Peyton's offense, and understand all of the dozens and dozens of audibles and fake audibles he does. If Thomas starts getting confused out there and running the wrong routs, then causes an interception, then for damn sure he "won't be getting no balls."
Peyton's offense is actually very simple, which I didn't know until reading this:
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/understanding-the-manning-offense-part-1
So Thomas basically just has to learn the terminology.
I don't understand why everyone is up in arms over this. If not for Thomas, we probably don't win that playoff game. Because let's face it...we don't have another receiver that is a deep threat like that....especially with Decker out of the game.
And re: the Chicago game...we won...
PunchDrunk
04-12-2012, 11:39 AM
If any other reciever on any other team came out and said "I wasn't gettin no balls" you all would be falling over yourselves to scream diva at him. Especially after 6 months of hearing how selfless they were.
didn't hear a peep from him before Tebow left.
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 11:39 AM
Of course we won't hear Tebow saying to the press about how frustrated he was at his receivers for all of the drops on third downs they had.
If Thomas would have caught that go-ahead touchdown pass (that hit him right in the hands) against Chicago, maybe he would have "got more balls."
I sure hope Thomas has enough upstairs to comprehend Peyton's offense, and understand all of the dozens and dozens of audibles and fake audibles he does. If Thomas starts getting confused out there and running the wrong routs, then causes an interception, then for damn sure he "won't be getting no balls."
So yes, comments like this are very Diva-like, especially from a player who hardly produced anything (on the rare occasions he was healthy) when we had the amazing pocket-passer Kyle Orton under center.
Lol. So now that he makes comments like this he is a diva and can't run routes?
Maybe if Tebow could pass, he would've gotten more balls? You know, like most quarterbacks, they throw the ball to the WR. It's crazy...I know...but believe me....IT HAPPENS!
You so funny. :rolleyes:
JakeNbake
04-12-2012, 11:40 AM
Tebow doesn't play on this team any more...
let it go people :)
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 11:41 AM
Manning! Manning! Manning!
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 11:42 AM
Tebow doesn't play on this team any more...
let it go people :)
They never will. :(
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 11:42 AM
Manning! Manning! Manning!
Yes!
That's the spirit!!
Let's chant another good players name who is actually a Bronco!!
DT! DT! DT! DT! DT!
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 11:43 AM
People are always told they have a problem with who Tebow is as a person when they judge his football ability. Apparently because DT answered a question honestly, he's stupid, not very good...etc etc etc
:laugh:
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 11:44 AM
Lol. So now that he makes comments like this he is a diva and can't run routes?
Maybe if Tebow could pass, he would've gotten more balls? You know, like most quarterbacks, they throw the ball to the WR. It's crazy...I know...but believe me....IT HAPPENS!
You so funny. :rolleyes:
Maybe if Thomas could catch, he would have been thrown to more often!
See what I did there?
And I didn't say Thomas is an actual Diva, just that his comments were very Diva-like. Thomas hasn't done enough in this league to qualify as a diva, because Diva's are typically much more accomplished, reliable players than him.
Let's see how the kid does this year, shall we?
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 11:44 AM
On the QB change (actual comments from the same interview)
"When they put him in the first game, and he made a couple plays, you could just see the crowd changed, the players changed, everybody just started playing different."
"Once Tim got in I felt like it made a big difference."
See how easy it easy to cherry pick comments to make a point?
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 11:45 AM
On the QB change (actual comments from the same interview)
"When they put him in the first game, and he made a couple plays, you could just see the crowd changed, the players changed, everybody just started playing different."
"Once Tim got in I felt like it made a big difference."
See how easy it easy to cherry pick comments to make a point?
Freyaka
04-12-2012, 11:48 AM
They never will. :(
Not as long as there are people here arguing with them....best way to get past it is don't post in these threads....Arguing about it just fuels the fires.
JakeNbake
04-12-2012, 11:48 AM
Not as long as there are people here arguing with them....best way to get past it is don't post in these threads....Arguing about it just fuels the fires.
Good call D.
Broncoyearound
04-12-2012, 11:52 AM
As I have stated on my thread on this topic I'm not defending Tebow...<----is actually a non topic to be honest he's a jet but Thomas is a bronco and I don't want another Marshall or anything. It was his comments regarding how he was used and not getting enough balls exc...I'm about to listen to the interview now as that was what I wanted to hear most to hear the tone and how he answered the questions. So I'll be back in a bit after I listen.
phaytal
04-12-2012, 11:53 AM
If I was the clear #1 receiver, and I was averaging 3 catches a game, 2 of which I had to run a 14 second route and make a circus grab to haul in, I'd probably come off as a diva too when talking about my awful ex-quarterback.
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 11:58 AM
To be fair....I was never real impressed with his intelligence levels prior to these comments....He just doesn't sound overly bright. He seems like a nice enough guy I'm just not sure he's overly smart...
Then again if he catches the ball and scores touchdowns he could be freakin rain man for all I care....
IIRC, he's actually very bright academically.
He's just not a good public speaker. Some athletes are, others aren't.
ERoyal248
04-12-2012, 11:59 AM
Maybe if Thomas could catch, he would have been thrown to more often!
See what I did there?
And I didn't say Thomas is an actual Diva, just that his comments were very Diva-like. Thomas hasn't done enough in this league to qualify as a diva, because Diva's are typically much more accomplished, reliable players than him.
Let's see how the kid does this year, shall we?
Maybe part of the reason he didn't get many passes is b/c Tebow is so inaccurate...
Some of the passes the WR's had to reach, stretch, jump to get.
2-8, 6-22, 11-26, i can go on.
WR's want to catch the ball, and score TD's, not block, and catch 3-5 passes per game.
COBronc78
04-12-2012, 11:59 AM
To be fair....I was never real impressed with his intelligence levels prior to these comments....He just doesn't sound overly bright. He seems like a nice enough guy I'm just not sure he's overly smart...
Then again if he catches the ball and scores touchdowns he could be freakin rain man for all I care....
Georgia Tech and a high score on the wonderlic > Public Speaking
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 12:00 PM
To be fair....I was never real impressed with his intelligence levels prior to these comments....He just doesn't sound overly bright. He seems like a nice enough guy I'm just not sure he's overly smart...
Then again if he catches the ball and scores touchdowns he could be freakin rain man for all I care....
I just don't think hes very adept at speaking publicly. He held a decent GPA at GT, not exactly a cupcake school.
phaytal
04-12-2012, 12:00 PM
To be fair....I was never real impressed with his intelligence levels prior to these comments....He just doesn't sound overly bright. He seems like a nice enough guy I'm just not sure he's overly smart...
Then again if he catches the ball and scores touchdowns he could be freakin rain man for all I care....
He may not be well spoken, but that 'rain man' crushed the Wonderlic with a 34.
http://www.pitch.com/imager/the-more-you-know-tire-slashing-edition/b/original/2562312/597a/themoreyouknow.jpg
Freyaka
04-12-2012, 12:02 PM
Georgia Tech and a high score on the wonderlic > Public Speaking
Wonderlic means zilch to me honestly...it's overated as a mesurement. I'm sure he's more inteligent than he appears but he sounds like he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, that could be the complete oposite of the truth but he still just doesn't sound that smart.
phaytal
04-12-2012, 12:03 PM
Wonderlic means zilch to me honestly...it's overated as a mesurement. I'm sure he's more inteligent than he appears but he sounds like he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, that could be the complete oposite of the truth but he still just doesn't sound that smart.
It might be an overrated measurement for football prowess, but it is certainly relevant when it comes to measuring general intelligence.
COBronc78
04-12-2012, 12:04 PM
Wonderlic means zilch to me honestly...it's overated as a mesurement. I'm sure he's more inteligent than he appears but he sounds like he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, that could be the complete oposite of the truth but he still just doesn't sound that smart.
The wonderlic means zilch to you? Honestly, who cares? It matters to the NFL teams. DT basically grew up in the ghetto, the way he talks doesn't bother me.
Attending GT and doing well on the wonderlic shows to me that he isn't a moron.
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 12:04 PM
To be fair....I was never real impressed with his intelligence levels prior to these comments....He just doesn't sound overly bright. He seems like a nice enough guy I'm just not sure he's overly smart...
Then again if he catches the ball and scores touchdowns he could be freakin rain man for all I care....
That's a touchdown.....def..def...definatly a touchdown. :)
He went to Georgia Tech and scored a 34 on the Wonderlic...
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 12:05 PM
3/4ths of the people wondering aloud if he's smart or not probably wouldn't/didn't meet the academic requirements for acceptance at Georgia Tech.
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 12:06 PM
The wonderlic means zilch to you? Honestly, who cares? It matters to the NFL teams. DT basically grew up in the ghetto, the way he talks doesn't bother me.
Attending GT and doing well on the wonderlic shows to me that he isn't a moron.
This...
It's cool and all if you don't care about the Wonderlic, but don't act like it's not a tool to somewhat reasonably measure intelligence.
I agree. Just because you talk like you're a black man from the South doesn't mean you're dumb.
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 12:06 PM
3/4ths of the people wondering aloud if he's smart or not probably wouldn't/didn't mean the academic requirements for acceptance at Georgia Tech.
Once again, IIRC, he did VERY well there too. Not just barely passing, like a good amount of athletes. But a very solid, impressive GPA.
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 12:06 PM
It might be an overrated measurement for football prowess, but it is certainly relevant when it comes to measuring general intelligence.
I personally don't think so. That guy who got a 4 or 5 on it must be dumber than a box of hammers, right?
I don't think any standardized test (wonderlic, IQ, etc) is any way to accurately gauge someone's intelligence, whether it be about sports or walking down the street.
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 12:06 PM
3/4ths of the people wondering aloud if he's smart or not probably wouldn't/didn't mean the academic requirements for acceptance at Georgia Tech.
Exactly. And Georgia Tech isn't exactly a school that bends the rules for athletes, either.
COBronc78
04-12-2012, 12:07 PM
3/4ths of the people wondering aloud if he's smart or not probably wouldn't/didn't mean the academic requirements for acceptance at Georgia Tech.
You'll get the people here who says "Well he played football, so of course he got into GT"
Maintaining a good GPA at a TOUGH school like GT while playing football is impressive to me. Many peoples perceptions are that grades are just handed to athletes at big D1 schools. They aren't.
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 12:08 PM
3/4ths of the people wondering aloud if he's smart or not probably wouldn't/didn't mean the academic requirements for acceptance at Georgia Tech.
Did he go to GT on a football scholarship, or an academic one? I honestly don't know.
One thing I do know, is that many big time schools (that are very difficult for the average Joe to get in to) gives a lot of breaks to athletes. Guys graduate from these schools solely on their merit on the athletic field, not their intellectual prowess.
Look at Dez Bryant. I'm not entirely convinced he can even read. :P
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 12:10 PM
You'll get the people here who says "Well he played football, so of course he got into GT"
Maintaining a good GPA at a TOUGH school like GT while playing football is impressive to me. Many peoples perceptions are that grades are just handed to athletes at big D1 schools. They aren't.
For many, they are. I've known many guys that got plenty of "Academic leeway" when I was in college.
COBronc78
04-12-2012, 12:11 PM
Did he go to GT on a football scholarship, or an academic one? I honestly don't know.
One thing I do know, is that many big time schools (that are very difficult for the average Joe to get in to) gives a lot of breaks to athletes. Guys graduate from these schools solely on their merit on the athletic field, not their intellectual prowess.
Look at Dez Bryant. I'm not entirely convinced he can even read. :P
False. Do teams help athletes by providing tutors for them? Sure, but they don't determine what grades each athlete gets in a class.
Just like you said, I have numerous friends that play D1 athletics. They don't get any leeway on their grades. They get help from tutors if needed, but they've never had a grade handed to them.
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 12:11 PM
Did he go to GT on a football scholarship, or an academic one? I honestly don't know.
One thing I do know, is that many big time schools (that are very difficult for the average Joe to get in to) gives a lot of breaks to athletes. Guys graduate from these schools solely on their merit on the athletic field, not their intellectual prowess.
Look at Dez Bryant. I'm not entirely convinced he can even read. :P
First of all, Oklahoma State isn't nearly as prestigious a school as GT.
Secondly, have you seen GT's football team lately? It's basically a bunch of undersized athletes and white kids most other schools took a pass on for whatever reason. Undersized, not as talented. But they have a scheme and recruit for it.
GT, along with schools like Duke, Wake, etc...you're not playing football there if you don't have the ability academically.Period.
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 12:11 PM
Did he go to GT on a football scholarship, or an academic one? I honestly don't know.
One thing I do know, is that many big time schools (that are very difficult for the average Joe to get in to) gives a lot of breaks to athletes. Guys graduate from these schools solely on their merit on the athletic field, not their intellectual prowess.
Look at Dez Bryant. I'm not entirely convinced he can even read. :P
We have a couple of GT alums on the boards here. I knew a couple of athletes personally that went there. A baseball player and a basketball player. They attended on athletic scholarships.
GT doesn't give breaks to student athletes.
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 12:12 PM
For many, they are. I've known many guys that got plenty of "Academic leeway" when I was in college.
And what college was that?
Most schools, especially the more upper echelon schools, have separate admissions criteria from the NCAA.
Did you go to an SEC school?
Justblaze2729
04-12-2012, 12:13 PM
Thomas is right... We all want the ball even While playing with your friends you get a lil ticked off when your not getting any passes thrown your way .
Not to mention that this is how thomas earns a living and provides for his family.
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 12:14 PM
We have a couple of GT alums on the boards here. I knew a couple of athletes personally that went there. A baseball player and a basketball player. They attended on athletic scholarships.
GT doesn't give breaks to student athletes.
I'm glad to hear that. It really does bother me when schools give athletes (especially the football players) academic breaks because of the amount of money these players bring in.
I never said I thought DT was dumb, or stupid, or not-smart. I am concerned about the fact that he ran so few kinds of routs at GT (because of their system), and I haven't seen enough of him in the pros to feel any better about it. It makes me wonder how well he will pick up Peyton's system.
jonathanrivers
04-12-2012, 12:15 PM
FYI, Demaryius Thomas scored a 1275 on the SAT in 2006, and that's before the 3-part test became standard for college reporting.
1275 isn't shabby. It may be lower tier for GT students. And given that standardized tests are usually biased against minorities, I'd say that's impressive.
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 12:16 PM
I'll take the word over my close friends on how they get treated as D1 athletes over yours. Thanks bud.
Good for you. I'm just a voice on the internet. :D I certainly hope you don't take the word of anybody you read on here.
I have friends that were D1 athletes that would disagree with your friends, so ha!
swaiy
04-12-2012, 12:16 PM
I don't think DT said anything wrong.
Justblaze2729
04-12-2012, 12:16 PM
Yeah.... I love to hear my receivers say "I ain't gettin no balls". Guess all that talk of DT being humble and all that other BS were lies. "Selfless", ha. A lot of the guys on the team are still good friends with TT, maybe little TO there shouldn't be throwing people under the bus.
Tebow isnt a bronco anymore....
LSIGRAD09
04-12-2012, 12:20 PM
Nothing wrong with DT's comments here.
Honestly, with all the crap this team has been through since the McD decision, I think our WRs have never had it good. Orton and Tebow were pretty difficult QBs for our receivers to click with, although I am inclined to believe Orton did pretty well with Decker.
I am not starting a debate by mentioning these QBs, but to the whole point on it's a team game, DT is 1000% correct on that point. ESPN and other news sources clearly honed in on Tebow, it was Tebow who won the Steelers game, and DT's stiff arm, and running had nothing to do with it.
Just my 2 cents. Our receivers are better off with Manning.
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 12:21 PM
Sorry, but I completely disagree. We aren't talking about creative thinking here. We are talking about general intelligence in language and mathematics utilizing critical thinking and problem solving.
Most of the questions on the Wonderlic should be able to be easily answered by someone who has completed the 8th grade in a decent public school system. The pitfall of the test is the 12 minute time limit, which is responsible for 99% of the athletes from prestigious universities to not get a perfect score. To accurately gauge intelligence is not the purpose of the test. It is used to get a general idea of how intelligent a person is, nothing more.
And yes, the guy that scored a 4 is as dumb as a box of hammers. I dont care what excuses have been put fourth on his behalf.
That made me laugh out loud in my cubicle. :P
We will just agree to disagree on this. :salute:
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 12:25 PM
Nothing wrong with DT's comments here.
Honestly, with all the crap this team has been through since the McD decision, I think our WRs have never had it good. Orton and Tebow were pretty difficult QBs for our receivers to click with, although I am inclined to believe Orton did pretty well with Decker.
I am not starting a debate by mentioning these QBs, but to the whole point on it's a team game, DT is 1000% correct on that point. ESPN and other news sources clearly honed in on Tebow, it was Tebow who won the Steelers game, and DT's stiff arm, and running had nothing to do with it.
Just my 2 cents. Our receivers are better off with Manning.
Great point. I do think our receivers are much better off with Manning (hell, 28 other teams' receivers would be better off with Manning), but even more in this case because of our youth at the WR position.
I do agree that ESPN clearly honed in to the Tebow comments, just to get a reaction and more ratings. Tebow, DT, and the entire team got to that playoff game and was integral to the win equally, in my opinion.
I really despise that network.
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 12:25 PM
Great point. I do think our receivers are much better off with Manning (hell, 28 other teams' receivers would be better off with Manning), but even more in this case because of our youth at the WR position.
I do agree that ESPN clearly honed in to the Tebow comments, just to get a reaction and more ratings. Tebow, DT, and the entire team got to that playoff game and was integral to the win equally, in my opinion.
I really despise that network.
We're in total agreement here.
I even turn on the radio broadcast of MLB games now and mute the TV.
roushmartin6
04-12-2012, 12:28 PM
DT said what i'm sure all the recievers were thinking, throw the dang ball already.
AdamWeberOrBust
04-12-2012, 12:31 PM
I think DT made a fair assessment regarding how the Networks honed in on Tebow without giving credit to the rest of the team.
Tebow is a Jet now and no-one is forced to like him or speak highly of him.
Roddoliver
04-12-2012, 12:41 PM
This kind of message, in my opinion, can only help Tebow. First of all, Thomas is telling the truth, just telling how it is without dancing around. It's more motivation to make Tebow work during the offseason. This slap in the face can make Tebow focus on the mental part of the game and be more aggressive as a passer. And that's exactly what he needs. He does not have to lift all that weight or run like crazy. He has to study the game, play quicker and make the throws. Thomas said the truth and maybe it's better than being fake and pretend it's all right. The media will have a banquet with this material but it's just extra motivation to a quarterback that wants to prove people wrong.
http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5700/demaryius-thomas
Broncos WR Demaryius Thomas said Thursday that he wasn't "sad" to hear Tim Tebow was traded because he "wasn't getting no balls" last season.
Although Tebow was portrayed as a locker room leader, Thomas revealed that teammates would call him out by saying, "Tim you gotta make that throw. You gotta read the defenses better." Thomas can expect better throws if not more volume from Peyton Manning. As Rotoworld's Mike Clay points out, no wide receiver in the NFL was seeing a greater percentage of his team's targets late in the 2011 season.
Do you want to be a quarterback? Then stop dancing around and make the damn throw. I think it's simple and fair. Tebow is being challenged. He can lift weights. He can run. He can sell jerseys. He can do nice things for the community. But can he be a reliable passer from the pocket? These words by Demaryius Thomas will make Tebow remember he has to study the game to be a better quarterback and pull the trigger consistently.
milehighgal
04-12-2012, 12:51 PM
Wait till ole DT drops a pass from Manning. Manning will rip him a new one. I understand he doesn't mince words with the oline or receivers.
watha?
04-12-2012, 12:52 PM
This kind of message, in my opinion, can only help Tebow. First of all, Thomas is telling the truth, just telling how it is without dancing around. It's more motivation to make Tebow work during the offseason. This slap in the face can make Tebow focus on the mental part of the game and be more aggressive as a passer. And that's exactly what he needs. He does not have to lift all that weight or run like crazy. He has to study the game, play quicker and make the throws. Thomas said the truth and maybe it's better than being fake and pretend it's all right. The media will have a banquet with this material but it's just extra motivation to a quarterback that wants to prove people wrong.
http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5700/demaryius-thomas
Do you want to be a quarterback? Then stop dancing around and make the damn throw. I think it's simple and fair. Tebow is being challenged. He can lift weights. He can run. He can sell jerseys. He can do nice things for the community. But can he be a reliable passer from the pocket? These words by Demaryius Thomas will make Tebow remember he has to study the game to be a better quarterback and pull the trigger consistently.
too bad DT will be label a diva and a dummy for making those comments by some poster on here. smh
SammyWinder
04-12-2012, 01:13 PM
I don't think DT said anything wrong.
I did... Because Tebow could have very well came out and threw him under the bus about all the balls he dropped or the fact that he can't get any freaking separation because his route running SUX... But he DIDN'T, that's what you call class, something this Ashely Lelie clone knows nothing about.
I'm getting sick of these flappy mouth Wide Receiver's that seem to think they are perfect. D.Thomas has been a injury magnet for 85% of his NFL career...He needs to SHUT UP and worry about not getting injured (oh wait he is injured agian). That way he will be able to pay the Broncos back for the investment they put into him... We could have had Dez Bryant, who while injury prone himself, has oh lets see about 11 more TD's and 600 more yrds then this dude...
JakeNbake
04-12-2012, 01:21 PM
I did... Because Tebow could have very well came out and threw him under the bus about all the balls he dropped or the fact that he can't get any freaking separation because his route running SUX... But he DIDN'T, that's what you call class, something this Ashely Lelie clone knows nothing about.
I'm getting sick of these flappy mouth Wide Receiver's that seem to think they are perfect. D.Thomas has been a injury magnet for 85% of his NFL career...He needs to SHUT UP and worry about not getting injured (oh wait he is injured agian). That way he will be able to pay the Broncos back for the investment they put into him... We could have had Dez Bryant, who while injury prone himself, has oh lets see about 11 more TD's and 600 more yrds then this dude...
Good advice...
Remedy
04-12-2012, 01:23 PM
I did... Because Tebow could have very well came out and threw him under the bus about all the balls he dropped or the fact that he can't get any freaking separation because his route running SUX... But he DIDN'T, that's what you call class, something this Ashely Lelie clone knows nothing about.
I'm getting sick of these flappy mouth Wide Receiver's that seem to think they are perfect. D.Thomas has been a injury magnet for 85% of his NFL career...He needs to SHUT UP and worry about not getting injured (oh wait he is injured agian). That way he will be able to pay the Broncos back for the investment they put into him... We could have had Dez Bryant, who while injury prone himself, has oh lets see about 11 more TD's and 600 more yrds then this dude...
First of all I think it's a far stretch to say DT knows nothing about class. If you have read anything about the guy.
Secondly, he was being honest I can't fault him for that... I would also bet a lot of people on the team feel the way he does...
Third, Dez .. really?!? I dont know if you're being serious or not...
swaiy
04-12-2012, 01:23 PM
I like how they are making DT out to be a villain on NFL Live lol
JakeNbake
04-12-2012, 01:24 PM
Dez also had Tony Romo throwing to him...
Just saying.
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 01:25 PM
I like how they are making DT out to be a villain on NFL Live lol
Sports media is a joke.
Ratings = $$$. Screw journalistic integrity.
GreasyQtip
04-12-2012, 01:25 PM
It's is funny how you can change the tone of these articles so easily.
One article read : DT Discusses Manning and Tebow
Another reads: DT hates playing with Tebow
But really, I am not trying to be judgmental, because I understand that he is a football player, and is paid to play. But if you ever see his interviews, he comes off really poorly, he comes off as stupid.
JakeNbake
04-12-2012, 01:28 PM
It's is funny how you can change the tone of these articles so easily.
One article read : DT Discusses Manning and Tebow
Another reads: DT hates playing with Tebow
But really, I am not trying to be judgmental, because I understand that he is a football player, and is paid to play. But if you ever see his interviews, he comes off really poorly, he comes off as stupid.
He's not stupid...
He has trouble with speaking to reporters... there is a difference.
DoomTrooper
04-12-2012, 01:28 PM
It's is funny how you can change the tone of these articles so easily.
One article read : DT Discusses Manning and Tebow
Another reads: DT hates playing with Tebow
But really, I am not trying to be judgmental, because I understand that he is a football player, and is paid to play. But if you ever see his interviews, he comes off really poorly, he comes off as stupid.
I do agree with those that have said that he's just a poor speaker, not stupid. I've seen his interviews, and I think he just gets really nervous in front of people/cameras.
COBronc78
04-12-2012, 01:33 PM
I did... Because Tebow could have very well came out and threw him under the bus about all the balls he dropped or the fact that he can't get any freaking separation because his route running SUX... But he DIDN'T, that's what you call class, something this Ashely Lelie clone knows nothing about.
I'm getting sick of these flappy mouth Wide Receiver's that seem to think they are perfect. D.Thomas has been a injury magnet for 85% of his NFL career...He needs to SHUT UP and worry about not getting injured (oh wait he is injured agian). That way he will be able to pay the Broncos back for the investment they put into him... We could have had Dez Bryant, who while injury prone himself, has oh lets see about 11 more TD's and 600 more yrds then this dude...
Oh wow, this might be the most uninformed post I've seen on here in awhile. Congrats to you!
Ashley Lelie clone? Lol!
Yeah, the first time DT has said anything remotely "negative" his entire time here in Denver and he is now labeled in the likes of B.Marshall and T.O
Unreal
yaz96
04-12-2012, 01:34 PM
Yeah.... I love to hear my receivers say "I ain't gettin no balls". Guess all that talk of DT being humble and all that other BS were lies. "Selfless", ha. A lot of the guys on the team are still good friends with TT, maybe little TO there shouldn't be throwing people under the bus.
wah wah wah
Maybe TT should be practicing throwing balls through windows of a moving bus.
Heck, even a stationary tire would be good......
I've met DT and he is very quiet and doesn't speak up much. These comments are direct answers to questions he received and speak volumes about the truth of the team dynamic last year.
GreasyQtip
04-12-2012, 01:37 PM
He's not stupid...
He has trouble with speaking to reporters... there is a difference.
Well, this is what I meant, he comes off as stupid butwho am I to judge.
Smart what? Many kinds of smart, probably safe to say some people are smarter at some things, like interviews, or others, like football or biology, etc.Who am I to judge? I'd probably look pretty stupid in his world.
On a side note, my best friend and I, who is a Raider fan, both thought Jamarcus Russel came off as a moron, I couldn't belive these words from Billick today, how a QB that dumb sounding could be rated so high, less than WR you need to put some stock in the conversational ability of your QB, I would want to have an intellectual conversation about a defense.
SammyWinder
04-12-2012, 01:37 PM
First of all I think it's a far stretch to say DT knows nothing about class. If you have read anything about the guy.
Secondly, he was being honest I can't fault him for that... I would also bet a lot of people on the team feel the way he does...
Third, Dez .. really?!? I dont know if you're being serious or not...
A classy guy would avoided the question and left it alone. Not take shot's at a guy that took a 1-4 team to one of the most exciting season in Bronco History and to its first playoff win in YEARS.
The guy is a injury magnet, even while in college and especially here. He wants to come out and blame Tebow for not throwing to him while he was open? Why didn't he blame Orton? Oh wait he was probably injured so Orton couldn't throw to him... And if your seriously going to say you rather have him then Dez Bryant then there is no need for me to carry this further. Compare their numbers including COLLEGE... Numbers don't lie, people do though.
If your going to "Be Honest" in essence down another player. Better make sure your game is tight, not full of as many pages as your injury chart...
BroncoooJohnson
04-12-2012, 01:38 PM
I expected a little more from DT, to be honest. We all know this is what he was thinking, but speaking bad about Tebow publicly is only going to stir the pot.
JakeNbake
04-12-2012, 01:41 PM
A classy guy would avoided the question and left it alone. Not take shot's at a guy that took a 1-4 team to one of the most exciting season in Bronco History and to its first playoff win in YEARS.
The guy is a injury magnet, even while in college and especially here. He wants to come out and blame Tebow for not throwing to him while he was open? Why didn't he blame Orton? Oh wait he was probably injured so Orton couldn't throw to him... And if your seriously going to say you rather have him then Dez Bryant then there is no need for me to carry this further. Compare their numbers including COLLEGE... Numbers don't lie, people do though.
If your going to "Be Honest" in essence down another player. Better make sure your game is tight, not full of as many pages as your injury chart...
You're doing the same thing he just did.
So now you're a baby TO.
right?
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 01:41 PM
I expected a little more from DT, to be honest. We all know this is what he was thinking, but speaking bad about Tebow publicly is only going to stir the pot.
He spoke bad of Orton publicly in the same interview. Where's your disappointment in that?
Who gives a flip about speaking bad about Tebow? All of the sudden it's wrong to call a spade a spade?
JerseyAdam
04-12-2012, 01:43 PM
[QUOTE=Spitfire Riggz;4383148]I agree, I don't care about his finger at least be building that chemistry getting to know his new quarterback. He sounds kind of like an ass honestly.[/QUO
I second this notion. I haven't heard anyone else complaining. Last time I checked, Tebow constantly thanked his teammates and consistently re educated the media over and over it's a team thing, not a Tebow thing. Just calling it like I see it.
yaz96
04-12-2012, 01:44 PM
I expected a little more from DT, to be honest. We all know this is what he was thinking, but speaking bad about Tebow publicly is only going to stir the pot.
He didn't speak "bad" about TT............
Where is everyone getting off about that???
If TT is not praised gloriously to the heavens, it's not OK to speak of "HIM"....
bronc_fan23
04-12-2012, 01:47 PM
I fail to see anyone pointing out any specific quotes from DT that were classless or wrong.
I want specific quotes.
hutch2426
04-12-2012, 01:55 PM
Why is it that if someone disagrees with DT, he/she is a TT hater? While the same can be said if they agree with DT, they are a TT hater?
I have to say many of you remind me of my daughter and that Twilight movie. Some of you are team Jacob and some are team Edward.
The guy said what he said. These guys make a pretty penny to play this game. I could care less about their feelings.
PowderAddict
04-12-2012, 01:55 PM
I'm not bothered.
I like DT, a lot. He just doesn't strike me as particluarly media savvy. I think he is honest, and driven. I think he's going to be a huge weapon for Manning.
He could be a bit more media savvy, but he doesn't strike me as a diva type
BroncsSB#3
04-12-2012, 01:57 PM
DT is young. He'll probably learn to keep those opinions to himself in the future. I'm not saying he's not allowed to think those things, but there are plenty of examples of how players are viewed in the NFL when they make negative statements about their teammates, former teammates, or other players (Moss, T.O., Cromartie, Santonio Holmes etc.) . Guys like Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady etc. all know not to say anything negative about other players regardless. Manning slipped up a few times early in his career but he now keeps away from all of that. That's one thing that Tebow has been good at since day one. He always keeps it either positive or at least neutral.
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 01:59 PM
DT is young. He'll probably learn to keep those opinions to himself in the future. I'm not saying he's not allowed to think those things, but there are plenty of examples of how players are viewed in the NFL when they make negative statements about their teammates, former teammates, or other players (Moss, T.O., Cromartie, Santonio Holmes etc.) . Guys like Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady etc. all know not to say anything negative about other players regardless. Manning slipped up a few times early in his career but he now keeps away from all of that. That's one thing that Tebow has been good at since day one. He always keeps it either positive or at least neutral.
...except he didn't say anything negative.
Broncoboy6
04-12-2012, 02:05 PM
Wow, this thread has covered everything under the sun, LOL.
While reading it, i ate a fortune cookie and it had this message:
You Love The Thrill Of Showmanship :huh:
BluenOrnge4Life
04-12-2012, 02:16 PM
And he's defended Tebow too this offseason. He tweeted something like, "I'm tired of people talking bad about my QB. If you ask me, luck has nothing to do with it. It's about hard work."
Personally, I think he should have deferred the question when it was asked, but he was honest and didn't even speak bad of tebow in doing so.
It shouldn't even matter anymore because Tebow is a Jet and DT remains a Bronco.
dizzolve
04-12-2012, 02:24 PM
DT is about to come on The Drive with Dmac and Big Al to talk about these comments
bronc_fan23
04-12-2012, 02:31 PM
I fail to see anyone pointing out any specific quotes from DT that were classless or wrong.
I want specific quotes.
Anyone?:coffee:
shawinkerpoppin
04-12-2012, 02:34 PM
I think Thomas managed to sneak on to the number 3 spot on tebowmanias most hated list
1.elway
2.sanchez (trust me the pitch forks are on deck just wait for the first bad game)
3. D.thomas
4.peyton manning and his mythical ever exploding neck
5. Von miller (for his publicly endorsing manning to denver before it happened)
SoundsOfSuccess
04-12-2012, 02:35 PM
This isn't the first time Thomas has said controversial things, is it?
broncolee
04-12-2012, 02:35 PM
What Thomas said is truth.
Maybe the PR department will get a hold of him and set him straight about what to say and what not to say.
As far as him being a diva goes, he's a wide receiver. What do you expect?
The real concern is whether or not he can mesh with Manning, not what he thinks about Tebow.
:goz::helmet::logo::thumb:
yaz96
04-12-2012, 02:36 PM
This isn't the first time Thomas has said controversial things, is it?
Thomas speaks very little. What other things has he said?
AdamWeberOrBust
04-12-2012, 02:38 PM
If anything it might light a fire under Tebow's backside and then maybe he can push himself to be a better QB...
Not that I would care either way.
shawinkerpoppin
04-12-2012, 02:41 PM
What Thomas said is truth.
Maybe the PR department will get a hold of him and set him straight about what to say and what not to say.
As far as him being a diva goes, he's a wide receiver. What do you expect?
The real concern is whether or not he can mesh with Manning, not what he thinks about Tebow.
:goz::helmet::logo::thumb:
pretty much true. He cant get into the game if he is blocking most of it and only gets a ball or two thrown his way all night. Sounds like he was feeling discouraged at times out there. With manning im sure he feels he always has a chance and is not out there running routes for nothing. Of course he has to do his part as well to make that work but its a mental game in addition to physical. Watch the drop percentage decrease significantly this year.
BroncoooJohnson
04-12-2012, 02:43 PM
The difference is that DT spoke about a former teammate. If he said it in January then sure but now Tebow's a Jet. Who cares?
All I was saying is that it's not always right to stir the pot. Is it a good thing that the tebow publicity is being brought back to Denver? I'd rather him just do like Decker did, say he's a great guy and move on.
shawinkerpoppin
04-12-2012, 02:44 PM
If anything it might light a fire under Tebow's backside and then maybe he can push himself to be a better QB...
Not that I would care either way.
everything is supposed to light a fire under tebow ugh. I hated constantly hearing that said. "tebow ordered no mayo and they gave him mayo anyways that is gonna light a fire under him to be a better QB".
Trust me its nothing against you adamweberorbust. I just needed to say that.
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 02:45 PM
Speaking of not being classy, Tebow was awarded the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame player of the year. He declined his invitation to accept the award.
tsk tsk
AdamWeberOrBust
04-12-2012, 02:58 PM
everything is supposed to light a fire under tebow ugh. I hated constantly hearing that said. "tebow ordered no mayo and they gave him mayo anyways that is gonna light a fire under him to be a better QB".
Trust me its nothing against you adamweberorbust. I just needed to say that.
Oh yeah I hated it too... I also hate how no-one can be critical about him at all. Annoying.
elecshoc
04-12-2012, 03:00 PM
:laugh: 11 pages on a hold lot of nothin, glad to see the boards are back :thumb:
xOrangeCrushx
04-12-2012, 03:09 PM
DT working on routes with Calvin Johnson makes me happy. Who is Tebow working out with right now? Is it still the same QB coach?
The rest is just nonsense. Anything he said isnt breaking news. Elway didn't believe in Tim, players disliked the mania, SHOCKING.
CoryWinget81
04-12-2012, 03:09 PM
DT working on routes with Calvin Johnson makes me smile. Who is Tebow working out with right now? Is it still the same QB coach?
He should be working with a RB coach.
Peanut
04-12-2012, 03:11 PM
:laugh: 11 pages on a hold lot of nothin, glad to see the boards are back :thumb:
Down to 10. I just cleaned it.
Please keep the personal stuff out.
Thanks.
xOrangeCrushx
04-12-2012, 03:14 PM
Speaking of not being classy, Tebow was awarded the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame player of the year. He declined his invitation to accept the award.
tsk tsk
Never heard that. That isn't cool at all.
He will miss Denver if he ever gets to start in NYC. He will be eaten alive.
Freyaka
04-12-2012, 03:25 PM
For those pointing out his grades/wonderlic ect...I don't doubt that he is smart he just doesn't come across that way in the slightest listening to him talk.
And like I said earlier his intelligence doesn't matter to me it's his on the field abilities (which I really don't question) Albert Einstein or someone with a low IQ none of it matters if he gets the job done which I think for the most part he does.
I don't want people getting the wrong impression I like the kid and I think he'll do fine in the manning lead offense.
jarbronco
04-12-2012, 03:26 PM
Here's an idea. Why don't we all just let it go already and go to a Manning thread?
Eric Decker was just interviewed on nfl32. He has some eye opening comments about our qb.
Freyaka
04-12-2012, 03:29 PM
Here's an idea. Why don't we all just let it go already and go to a Manning thread?
Eric Decker was just interviewed on nfl32. He has some eye opening comments about our qb.
If you want to discuss the manning situation you can do that. If people want to discuss that they have that right. Nothing forces you to post or read in this thread.
Freyaka
04-12-2012, 03:31 PM
Speaking of not being classy, Tebow was awarded the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame player of the year. He declined his invitation to accept the award.
tsk tsk
Would you want to in that situation? I sure wouldn't I'd want to stay the heck away from Colorado and worry about my future in New York in his shoes. I don't see that as unclassy more as staying away from a bad situation.
socalpeytonfan
04-12-2012, 03:34 PM
Sanchez is only 25, i wouldn't say he's maxed out his skills. I don't think he'll ever be elite, but not as bad as some say.
I've said it a few times, barring injuries or a bad start by the Jets, Tebow will NOT start this season.
I agree. I don't know how much more, if any, Mark will improve, but I don't see him losing his job to Tebow unless, like you said, Mark gets injured or the team has an awful start.
jarbronco
04-12-2012, 03:34 PM
If you want to discuss the manning situation you can do that. If people want to discuss that they have that right. Nothing forces you to post or read in this thread.
You are absolutly right. I just get frustrated with all of this fighting still going on over a NY Jets player. He's a great guy, we get it, he's a bad qb, we get it. Lets get on with it.
Mortal
04-12-2012, 03:34 PM
Yeah.... I love to hear my receivers say "I ain't gettin no balls". Guess all that talk of DT being humble and all that other BS were lies. "Selfless", ha. A lot of the guys on the team are still good friends with TT, maybe little TO there shouldn't be throwing people under the bus.
If Tebow had thrown at least semi-accurate passes last year, we wouldn't be hearing stuff like this.
Justblaze2729
04-12-2012, 03:35 PM
A classy guy would avoided the question and left it alone. Not take shot's at a guy that took a 1-4 team to one of the most exciting season in Bronco History and to its first playoff win in YEARS.
The guy is a injury magnet, even while in college and especially here. He wants to come out and blame Tebow for not throwing to him while he was open? Why didn't he blame Orton? Oh wait he was probably injured so Orton couldn't throw to him... And if your seriously going to say you rather have him then Dez Bryant then there is no need for me to carry this further. Compare their numbers including COLLEGE... Numbers don't lie, people do though.
If your going to "Be Honest" in essence down another player. Better make sure your game is tight, not full of as many pages as your injury chart...
You mad bro?
Get over it.
broncolee
04-12-2012, 03:36 PM
Would you want to in that situation? I sure wouldn't I'd want to stay the heck away from Colorado and worry about my future in New York in his shoes. I don't see that as unclassy more as staying away from a bad situation.
I don't see Tebow passing up the invite as unclassy but what makes it a bad situation?
It doesn't involve the Broncos' organization. It's the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame Player of the Year Award. All he would have to do is show and accept the award.
Yeah, he would be asked questions about his time as a Bronco but so what? He would just simply give his standard bland answer and move on.
OmaBronco
04-12-2012, 03:41 PM
There wasn't a word of DT's that wasn't true. They weren't exactly tactfully placed or politically correct but they definitely were not false.
Nothing against TT (the person) but vast improvement was needed at the QB position and I thank the Good Lord that the franchise has moved in the direction it has.
DT will never make a living behind a microphone but he also isn't afraid to speak the truth.
Freyaka
04-12-2012, 03:47 PM
I think Thomas managed to sneak on to the number 3 spot on tebowmanias most hated list
1.elway
2.sanchez (trust me the pitch forks are on deck just wait for the first bad game)
3. D.thomas
4.peyton manning and his mythical ever exploding neck
5. Von miller (for his publicly endorsing manning to denver before it happened)
Oh well if so....Tebow isn't a Bronco so what does it really matter what Tebowmania hates?
Just sayin.....
BroncoFanNC
04-12-2012, 04:01 PM
This thread should be moved to the Gang Greene under the Tebowmania section. :D
krazy/kz1
04-12-2012, 04:05 PM
I know he spoke the truth. He just should've kept it to himself in my opinion. But he'll be getting threats from Tebowmaniacs soon, just watch :laugh:
The truth is the truth anyway the Tebowmaniacs want to spin it. What gives Tebow the right to speak his believes if Thomas can't speak his. Besides that they should all be on the jets web page by now. lol.
elevation INC
04-12-2012, 04:50 PM
nothing to see here stop the drama, DT was essentially right on both accounts....
broncoFan!
04-12-2012, 05:02 PM
Tebow was a locker room cancer. I'm glad we got rid of him.
Yup, he was a real locker room cancer. It must have been all that trashing he did of his WR's. Or his coach. Or his ex-coach. Or Elway.
Oh wait.... :coffee:
COBronc78
04-12-2012, 05:05 PM
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He also said some good things as well. People are just looking for any drama
crash123go
04-12-2012, 05:07 PM
I agree, I don't care about his finger at least be building that chemistry getting to know his new quarterback. He sounds kind of like an ass honestly.
What is he gonna do stand next to manning for 2 hours while he throws to the other receivers, please learn football!!! Thomas is more helpful right not healing from surgery.
COBronc78
04-12-2012, 05:11 PM
DT on The Drive:
http://www.1043thefan.com/channels/thedrive/Story.aspx?ID=1685784
Snk16
04-12-2012, 05:15 PM
I don't think it's fair that Thomas trashes Tebow's media coverage. He's not responsible for it, and Tebow even said, "it's Bronco time, not Tebow time." Guess he missed that part.
Also, I don't think it's necessary/classy to trash him at this point...like it really doesn't accomplish anything.
JvDub95
04-12-2012, 05:25 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828421b6/article/demaryius-thomas-doesnt-sound-like-hell-miss-tebow?module=HP11_headline_stack
" I ain't gona talk bad about Tim but he ain't getten me da balls dat I need "
" I ain't gona talk bad about Sanchez but he ain't da best QB in da leadue "
:laugh: I ain't gona talk bad about Optimus but he sounds like Bobby Bouche, all he needs now is a wooden spoon and a water pail :laugh:
Captain_23
04-12-2012, 05:45 PM
I agree, I don't care about his finger at least be building that chemistry getting to know his new quarterback. He sounds kind of like an ass honestly.
why? because he was asked a question and didn't give a politically correct answer?
xOrangeCrushx
04-12-2012, 06:01 PM
" I ain't gona talk bad about Tim but he ain't getten me da balls dat I need "
" I ain't gona talk bad about Sanchez but he ain't da best QB in da leadue "
:laugh: I ain't gona talk bad about Optimus but he sounds like Bobby Bouche, all he needs now is a wooden spoon and a water pail :laugh:
Bet you wouldnt make any comment like that if you were standing within arms reach of the man.
Some people grew up in different cultures than yours. Now these guys are living on a higher hill than yours. Go ahead and keep laughing though.
Freyaka
04-12-2012, 06:32 PM
HGy0KvlE-Uw&list=UUS4Dar9wUUZTvm77M1WBaNw&index=1&feature=plcp
He also said some good things as well. People are just looking for any drama
He did, he actually defended Tebow several times but that's what people like to do, take the bad toss out the good and twist it however they want.
flosstein
04-12-2012, 06:34 PM
U know I do agree with his comments, but again, same as with the other receivers and McGahee, he exonerates himself. As is he had magic hands that caught every pass thrown his way. They always speak of the passes they didn't get or the passes that he missed, but there were just as many that hit them perfectly in stride and they failed to reel in. There's a big one in the Pitt highlight where DT drops a sure fire 3rd down completion. Hit him right in the "basket". Where is the self acknowledgement of what he could have done better? We all know where Timmy's faults were. That's the only thing that gets under my skin with these guys when they get into critiquing what Tim couldn't do. Tim was humble enough to only speak of himself and his faults, can u imagine if he came out and said, "well if DT and Deck caught even half the passes that hit them in the hands or in the basket, things wouldn't look so bad." But he won't, and if he did he'd be just as correct in that statement as DT was in this piece. And just as arrogant.
dizzolve
04-12-2012, 07:57 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d8284656b/Charley-Casserly-s-Soapbox
Mk2_Tebow
04-12-2012, 08:07 PM
The Bears game, eh, i don't quite remember that one, but Tebow just missed that throw.
Don't remember the Steelers pass you are referring too.
As for drops, don't you think some of that is b/c Tebow was really inaccurate, not saying all of the passes were but some of the passes, the WR's had to jump, reach, and try to grab them.
Wow, you don't remember Tebow putting his arm around DT and consoling him for the dropped TD against the bears ? Lol dude put own the beer, what can I say....
JakeNbake
04-12-2012, 08:16 PM
Quit trolling...
Broncoholic3233
04-12-2012, 08:19 PM
Wow, you don't remember Tebow putting his arm around DT and consoling him for the dropped TD against the bears ? Lol dude put own the beer, what can I say....
If you are going to try to 'insult' someone, maybe you should put down the beer.
And seriously, like Jake said......quit trolling.
Mk2_Tebow
04-12-2012, 08:23 PM
If you are going to try to 'insult' someone, maybe you should put down the beer.
And seriously, like Jake said......quit trolling.
How am I insulting Eddie ? He said he didn't remember the pass DT missed for a TD against the bears......really ? How could you miss that and Tebow putting his arm around DT consoling him?
And the beer comment was a joke not an insult , so why don't you calm down and move along
AdamSchefter
04-12-2012, 08:24 PM
yeah its funny because dt dropped a lot of easy passes struggled at running routes that were deep routes, rarely seen over the middle of the field except on one play the whole year. tebow was throwing to him on every play and as much as tebow missed dt just flat out dropped it. dont tell me otherwise i had sunday ticket i watched all the games. if anything manning is going to spread the ball out more to the tightends and slot wrs. i think decker will become mannings favorite option because decker can do it all.
cunninglinguist
04-12-2012, 08:35 PM
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXFouJ-UWLQ
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