Sean Taylor Spits in Micheal Pittman's face...National Outrage?

[theshiverman]

So Far i havent really seen alot of outrage like i saw when ROMO spit in JJ Stokes face back in that 97 monday night game, Romo was blasted as being a racist and dirty player by everyone with a camera stuck in front of their face, will people be as outraged over Taylors classless act? Or was it differant because Romo was white and spit in a black mans face while Both Taylor and Pittman are black so it isnt such a big deal? Either way i think it has no place in The NFL or anywhere else for that matter , And i think Taylor should be fined heavy and blasted all week by those same media people that wanted to Kick Romo out of the NFL. :coffee:

[armedequation]

that was an excellent example of being totally classless. Wow first vick now this....

[Plastique]

Taylor should be suspended next week, playoff or no that kind of behavior is unacceptable.

[ClevelandBronco]

So Far i havent really seen alot of outrage like i saw when ROMO spit in JJ Stokes face back in that 97 monday night game, Romo was blasted as being a racist and dirty player by everyone with a camera stuck in front of their face, will people be as outraged over Taylors classless act? Or was it differant because Romo was white and spit in a black mans face while Both Taylor and Pittman are black so it isnt such a big deal? Either way i think it has no place in The NFL or anywhere else for that matter , And i think Taylor should be fined heavy and blasted all week by those same media people that wanted to Kick Romo out of the NFL. :coffee:

Spitting in any player's face is reprehensible. So is your defense of Romo, IMHO. (After Romo's spitting incident, at least one player on his own team — Shannon Sharpe — supported the idea that Romo held racist views and did indeed exhibit racist behavior. Sharpe refused to support Romo against the charge.)

Not that I'm sure that you're defending Romo in your post. You may just be trying to make a point about how a Caucasian might be accused of racism after any negative interaction with an African American, while a similar charge would not normally be levelled against an African American who acted badly toward a Caucasian and that such a charge wouldn't be levelled at all in a case of one man spitting in the face of another man of more similar lineage. If that's your point, I think it's a petty, almost child-like point to try to make. It's not the kind of point that will help to eradicate the very real effects of racism.

I guess perhaps your post intends to support the idea that sometimes a spit in the face is simply just a spit in an opponent's face. It's not necessarily a spit in an opponent-of-another-ethnic-background's face.

Any way you meant it I wish you hadn't wasted your time keying it in or my time reading it and attempting to shut you up about it. There's good evidence to suggest that Romo spit in an African American's face and that he probably meant something by it.

And, yeah, Taylor should be suspended for three games. Preseason doesn't count toward the suspension. It's absolutely intolerable behavior.

[Tyler_Thompson]

I think he should be suspended for two or three games, who did it before him?

[ClevelandBronco]

Bill Romanowski when he played for our very own Denver Broncos.

[KnightOLB53]

Its not like he spit a bloody loogie in his face.

[VADER72]

I know the story on this, but did he really spit in his face. With Romo, we totally saw it. This, I don't know. He could have, but I'm sure it happens all the time, we just don't see it.

[NevadaBroncofan]

Its not like he spit a bloody loogie in his face.
hehehehe...that actually might have been kinda funny... :D

[Wanobe]

i think he should be fined as well as miss the rest of his playoff games (like they are getting past seahawks heh)

[Bronco_f1]

He spitted on someone else. That is a complete lack of respect and such action should be punished. It doesn't matter who does it

[rcsodak]

Spitting in any player's face is reprehensible. So is your defense of Romo, IMHO. (After Romo's spitting incident, at least one player on his own team — Shannon Sharpe — supported the idea that Romo held racist views and did indeed exhibit racist behavior. Sharpe refused to support Romo against the charge.)

Not that I'm sure that you're defending Romo in your post. You may just be trying to make a point about how a Caucasian might be accused of racism after any negative interaction with an African American, while a similar charge would not normally be levelled against an African American who acted badly toward a Caucasian and that such a charge wouldn't be levelled at all in a case of one man spitting in the face of another man of more similar lineage. If that's your point, I think it's a petty, almost child-like point to try to make. It's not the kind of point that will help to eradicate the very real effects of racism.

I guess perhaps your post intends to support the idea that sometimes a spit in the face is simply just a spit in an opponent's face. It's not necessarily a spit in an opponent-of-another-ethnic-background's face.

Any way you meant it I wish you hadn't wasted your time keying it in or my time reading it and attempting to shut you up about it. There's good evidence to suggest that Romo spit in an African American's face and that he probably meant something by it.

And, yeah, Taylor should be suspended for three games. Preseason doesn't count toward the suspension. It's absolutely intolerable behavior.
I think you have issues...... :confused:

[Broncofan-13]

Spitting in any player's face is reprehensible. So is your defense of Romo, IMHO. (After Romo's spitting incident, at least one player on his own team — Shannon Sharpe — supported the idea that Romo held racist views and did indeed exhibit racist behavior. Sharpe refused to support Romo against the charge.)

Not that I'm sure that you're defending Romo in your post. You may just be trying to make a point about how a Caucasian might be accused of racism after any negative interaction with an African American, while a similar charge would not normally be levelled against an African American who acted badly toward a Caucasian and that such a charge wouldn't be levelled at all in a case of one man spitting in the face of another man of more similar lineage. If that's your point, I think it's a petty, almost child-like point to try to make. It's not the kind of point that will help to eradicate the very real effects of racism.

I guess perhaps your post intends to support the idea that sometimes a spit in the face is simply just a spit in an opponent's face. It's not necessarily a spit in an opponent-of-another-ethnic-background's face.

Any way you meant it I wish you hadn't wasted your time keying it in or my time reading it and attempting to shut you up about it. There's good evidence to suggest that Romo spit in an African American's face and that he probably meant something by it.

And, yeah, Taylor should be suspended for three games. Preseason doesn't count toward the suspension. It's absolutely intolerable behavior.


Wow, anyone care to guess who's reading into a post a little too much?

[Ravage!!!]

Football is a high adrenalin and high testosterone'd-up sport. In the playoffs (and big rivalies), emotions grow HIGH and intense. People do stupid things. Taylor obviously did something that was classless, and something that was unsportman like, but that doesn't mean he should be suspended for the playoffs nor miss time for a spit in the face. He was kicked out of that game, and will be fined. I personally don't think an unsportman like deed needs to be punished further than that. Its not like he did anything "more" than spike the ball in a guys face, or made a comment about his sister in bed. Yes, its to a different "degree" as far as people feeling insulted....but all insults have 'degrees' of severity. He didn't do anything that caused the other player injury, or threatened his career. He crossed the line of class and sportmanship. Lets not make this into more than it is.

ClevelandBronco

Dude. You seriously need to chill out. I think theshiverman has a good point. I think ROMO did get more media because of the allegations of him spitting for racial reasons. I personally don't think it was for racial reasons, but the media certainly tried to run that angle. Maybe that spit got more press because of that, or maybe it was because it was the first time it was caught so vividly on camera. I don't know, and I don't care. But I know you have some issues you need to deal with.

[bcbronc]

Football is a high adrenalin and high testosterone'd-up sport. In the playoffs (and big rivalies), emotions grow HIGH and intense. People do stupid things. Taylor obviously did something that was classless, and something that was unsportman like, but that doesn't mean he should be suspended for the playoffs nor miss time for a spit in the face. He was kicked out of that game, and will be fined. I personally don't think an unsportman like deed needs to be punished further than that. Its not like he did anything "more" than spike the ball in a guys face, or made a comment about his sister in bed. Yes, its to a different "degree" as far as people feeling insulted....but all insults have 'degrees' of severity. He didn't do anything that caused the other player injury, or threatened his career. He crossed the line of class and sportmanship. Lets not make this into more than it is.

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i have to completely disagree with you here. spitting in someones face is nothing comparable to spiking a ball in a guys face. its so much further than unsportsmanlike behaviour. it is completely innappropriate behaviour and he should be suspended at least one game. some things you can write off as being the heat of the moment, but there are lines that cant be crossed. spitting in somebody's face is definatly one of them.

[tdnmecudawon3]

Spitting in any player's face is reprehensible. So is your defense of Romo, IMHO. (After Romo's spitting incident, at least one player on his own team — Shannon Sharpe — supported the idea that Romo held racist views and did indeed exhibit racist behavior. Sharpe refused to support Romo against the charge.)

Not that I'm sure that you're defending Romo in your post. You may just be trying to make a point about how a Caucasian might be accused of racism after any negative interaction with an African American, while a similar charge would not normally be levelled against an African American who acted badly toward a Caucasian and that such a charge wouldn't be levelled at all in a case of one man spitting in the face of another man of more similar lineage. If that's your point, I think it's a petty, almost child-like point to try to make. It's not the kind of point that will help to eradicate the very real effects of racism.

I guess perhaps your post intends to support the idea that sometimes a spit in the face is simply just a spit in an opponent's face. It's not necessarily a spit in an opponent-of-another-ethnic-background's face.

Any way you meant it I wish you hadn't wasted your time keying it in or my time reading it and attempting to shut you up about it. There's good evidence to suggest that Romo spit in an African American's face and that he probably meant something by it.

And, yeah, Taylor should be suspended for three games. Preseason doesn't count toward the suspension. It's absolutely intolerable behavior.


I've never seen someone try to project an image of being non racist as much as you. Who in there right mind refers to a person as african american or caucasian every time they mention someones race?

[JADJARHD]

Taylor should get whatever punishment the NFL decides for the spitting incident. In addition the team would be wise to address the issue. However the incident was without racial overtones.

Romo, on the other hand, not only spit but reportedly used a racial slur during the incident. Romo was an embrrresment to himself and the team and should have been cut immediatly from our roster. I am not a Bronco fan so I can cheer for someone who does that type of thing. He is a black eye for the organization that usually stands for class and integrity.

[DistilledFun]

Did anyone of you actully see Talyor spit. Beacuse his coaches believe he didn't do it. We all know he is a troblemaker but i dont think he is the type to spit in someones face like that. And do you know what was said to him? I mean you want to chastize the mand without knowing any details. It's not like he threw a punch infact; if the man was being insulted and something that was said made him go to the brink at that point spitting is taking the high road instead of getting in a fist fight. Also don't give me this walk away bull because when emotions are running high and your in a tense enviroment such as that and someone was to attak you be it verbaly or physically your already close to the brink and I for one am glad to see it end in the way it did and not a fist fight.

[In-com-plete]

Did anyone of you actully see Talyor spit. Beacuse his coaches believe he didn't do it. We all know he is a troblemaker but i dont think he is the type to spit in someones face like that. And do you know what was said to him? I mean you want to chastize the mand without knowing any details. It's not like he threw a punch infact; if the man was being insulted and something that was said made him go to the brink at that point spitting is taking the high road instead of getting in a fist fight. Also don't give me this walk away bull because when emotions are running high and your in a tense enviroment such as that and someone was to attak you be it verbaly or physically your already close to the brink and I for one am glad to see it end in the way it did and not a fist fight.
Were you watching the game? Did you see what happened? The Bucs just failed to convert a third down and Pittman was standing there. While the Skins were walking off the field Taylor walked up to Pittman and was standing behind him. You could clearly see Taylor was talking ****. When Pittman turned around Taylor was doing all the talking. Taylor initiated the conversation.

I didn't actually see the spit, but the ref was reaching for the flag before Pittman threw the punch. The Skins coaching staff may not believe it happened, but what does that ref have to gain by making this up?

And I wouldn't really call spitting in someones face "the high road". If you've watched the Skins at all this year you've seen Taylor in atleast one altercation a game. The guy has never taken "the high road".

[Moss iz 89]

OMG he did not spit in his face they were having a shouting match back and forth. You could see the spit hit JJ in his face you cant see anything with taylor and if someone spits in your face wouldnt you try and wipe it off which Pittman did not try to do

[Broncosinindy]

i say let em duke it out ...also the announcers if they would shut up for a second would have actually known what was going .. happened like two or three times that whole game

[Broncosinindy]

OMG he did not spit in his face they were having a shouting match back and forth. You could see the spit hit JJ in his face you cant see anything with taylor and if someone spits in your face wouldnt you try and wipe it off which Pittman did not try to do

well wether you seen it or not the refs did and that is what counts

[Broncosinindy]

Taylor should get whatever punishment the NFL decides for the spitting incident. In addition the team would be wise to address the issue. However the incident was without racial overtones.

Romo, on the other hand, not only spit but reportedly used a racial slur during the incident. Romo was an embrrresment to himself and the team and should have been cut immediatly from our roster. I am not a Bronco fan so I can cheer for someone who does that type of thing. He is a black eye for the organization that usually stands for class and integrity.

its hard to be a racial incident when there both black.. :duh:

[Perry1977]

OMG he did not spit in his face they were having a shouting match back and forth. You could see the spit hit JJ in his face you cant see anything with taylor and if someone spits in your face wouldnt you try and wipe it off which Pittman did not try to do


Here ya go.

http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/9150905

Nothing like not believing something because you don't want to, eh?

[Nomad Broncofan]

Wow, anyone care to guess who's reading into a post a little too much?


There seems to be a lot of "reading into a post a little too much" on this board these days. I sense a little anxiety by some of the faithful. Both guys should have been thrown out the game - one for allegedly spitting and the other for slapping to the head.

[theshiverman]

Spitting in any player's face is reprehensible. So is your defense of Romo, IMHO. (After Romo's spitting incident, at least one player on his own team — Shannon Sharpe — supported the idea that Romo held racist views and did indeed exhibit racist behavior. Sharpe refused to support Romo against the charge.)

Not that I'm sure that you're defending Romo in your post. You may just be trying to make a point about how a Caucasian might be accused of racism after any negative interaction with an African American, while a similar charge would not normally be levelled against an African American who acted badly toward a Caucasian and that such a charge wouldn't be levelled at all in a case of one man spitting in the face of another man of more similar lineage. If that's your point, I think it's a petty, almost child-like point to try to make. It's not the kind of point that will help to eradicate the very real effects of racism.

I guess perhaps your post intends to support the idea that sometimes a spit in the face is simply just a spit in an opponent's face. It's not necessarily a spit in an opponent-of-another-ethnic-background's face.

Any way you meant it I wish you hadn't wasted your time keying it in or my time reading it and attempting to shut you up about it. There's good evidence to suggest that Romo spit in an African American's face and that he probably meant something by it.

And, yeah, Taylor should be suspended for three games. Preseason doesn't count toward the suspension. It's absolutely intolerable behavior.

Where in my post does it say im defending Romo?, Read it again before you start pointing fingers, I think both Romo's and Seans actions are about as low as you can get, my post is simply shining light on the fact that the media doesnt care as much when a black man spits on another black man, but they went crazy When the white guy did it, As a Black man myself i think this isnt right and i was just wondering how everyone else felt about it, because as Bronco fans we all know what a big stink the romo incindent brought down, it was on every Media outlet for weeks. :coffee:

[Loyalty]

I agree if Romo was a racist for spitting in Stokes face then Taylor must be a racist too!

[BroncoManiac_69]

Anyone that spits in another person's face is a pathetic. It is always considered a complete insult regardless of who why and where.

A hefty fine and suspension should occur.

[Moss iz 89]

Here ya go.

http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/9150905

Nothing like not believing something because you don't want to, eh?
Im still going to belive taylor on this one and it is even more BS that the ref let pittman hit taylor in the face with no penalty

[bcbronc]

Im still going to belive taylor on this one and it is even more BS that the ref let pittman hit taylor in the face with no penalty


your going to believe taylor over the ref that was standing 2 feet away? sounds logical to me.

:coffee:

[JADJARHD]

its hard to be a racial incident when there both black.. :duh:


...the lack of a racial component. That is why there is not as much outrage that the original poster is calling for. The Romo incident was different and therefore sparks more outrage. It is not because Romo was a Bronco but because Romo did more than just spit.

[PatrickdaDookie]

You guys are nuts. You think spitting is the worst thing that happens on a football field? You don't see what goes in a pile of players. It's only a big deal because it was out in the open.

If I'm a defensive coach, I want a bunch of mean, toothless, slobbering defensive players who will spit, kick, bite, scratch, and try to eat the other team alive... so long as they don't get caught.

[AussieGriff]

...also the announcers if they would shut up for a second would have actually known what was going .. happened like two or three times that whole game

Not to mention how they dug themselves into a hole by ranting and raving about how the officials messed it up so badly, and how poor Taylor was the innocent victim of Pittman's punch...

I sure hope that commentary team doesn't find its way to NBC for next season's Sunday night games.

Anyway, latest on this is Taylor won't be suspended: Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/08/AR2006010801114.html)

[Ravage!!!]

i have to completely disagree with you here. spitting in someones face is nothing comparable to spiking a ball in a guys face. its so much further than unsportsmanlike behaviour. it is completely innappropriate behaviour and he should be suspended at least one game. some things you can write off as being the heat of the moment, but there are lines that cant be crossed. spitting in somebody's face is definatly one of them.

Its against the rules. Its crossing the lines for disrespect...but you can't distinquish it as MORE disrespectful than spiking a ball in a person's face, because that is YOUR opinion as to what is worse. What if another guy gets JUST as offended with a ball spiked in his face? SHould the ball SPIKER get suspended as well? How about the personal foul for slapping a QB in the head?? What about the BAD face-mask penalties?? Those can hurt someone's career and keep them from earning a paycheck? How can spitting in someone's face be given a suspension when the others are not?? It can't be. It won't be.

Spitting in someone's face is disgraceful. Its disgusting. It crosses the line horribly in regards to bad sportsmanship...but it does NOT deserve a suspension. Not if you don't suspend other players for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Besides. Taylor DID get a bigger punishment than most "unsportsmanlike" conduct when he was removed from the game. When players push a referee, they get removed from the game, get fined, and are BACK again the next week. I just don't think you can expect more punishment to be levied on this player for unsportsmanlike conduct. Despite the "degree" that you feel it represents. ITs not physical harm.

[Ravage!!!]

Im still going to belive taylor on this one and it is even more BS that the ref let pittman hit taylor in the face with no penalty

Why would the ref lie? What purpose does the referee, that was just 3 feet away have for making that up? He saw it, and called it ON THE SPOT. He didn't take someone's word for it. He didn't throw the flag because of second hand knowledge, he was watching and SAW Taylor spit in the face of another player... THAT is what drew the flag, and being removed from the game immediatly. To say that it didn't happen because you couldn't see it from a camera that was WAyyyyy back... is silly.

[Charlie Brown]

I for one am very angry over what he did. Players need to know better than to lose their temper and act the way they have. Taylor and Polamalu I believe should be dealt with harshly.

[Beard]

OMG he did not spit in his face they were having a shouting match back and forth. You could see the spit hit JJ in his face you cant see anything with taylor and if someone spits in your face wouldnt you try and wipe it off which Pittman did not try to do

He didn't?

How do you know Pittman didn't wipe his face. Did you turn on "Pittman-cam" and watch him for the rest of the game?

Sorry, homer...I understand you getting behind your guy, but lets face it...your boy can ball but he's a complete idiot. It's a shame, really.

You want proof?

http://media.putfile.com/Taylor-edit29

[Jared]

So Far i havent really seen alot of outrage like i saw when ROMO spit in JJ Stokes face back in that 97 monday night game, Romo was blasted as being a racist and dirty player by everyone with a camera stuck in front of their face, will people be as outraged over Taylors classless act? Or was it differant because Romo was white and spit in a black mans face while Both Taylor and Pittman are black so it isnt such a big deal? Either way i think it has no place in The NFL or anywhere else for that matter , And i think Taylor should be fined heavy and blasted all week by those same media people that wanted to Kick Romo out of the NFL. :coffee:

The biggest difference in those 9 years is that the mind set of the sports fan has changed.


In the most recent ESPN The magazine, they had their annual Sportsnation survey.

There has been a significant change in the numbers of fans who are either feel that athletes are completey disconnected from reality or palpably angry at pro sports.

In essence, the fan has less respect for the players because they feel that the players and owners, as a group, treat them like sheep.

So, whereas back then, more fans expected pro athletes to be held to a higher standard, now, most fans just see that as typical behavior for a spoiled millionaire.

There is disapproval, just no shock.

[tommy1986]

I for one am very angry over what he did. Players need to know better than to lose their temper and act the way they have. Taylor and Polamalu I believe should be dealt with harshly.


This thread has nothing to do with Polamalu; Polamalu was flagged once (and rightfully so) for unsportsmanlike conduct in the Cincinatti game but he did not spit in anyone's face like Taylor did to Pittman. Taylor should have been fined 50,000 dollars and gotten suspended for the Seattle game.