Looks like it'll be Denver/New England

[DenverFanInGB]

Well, Pittsburgh just went up 31-17 in the forth and you might as well stick a fork into the Bengals. So that means we'll get New England next week.

I'm thinking that we might be underdogs which is fine to me. New England is on a roll, but we already beat them at our house this year. People will say, "well that was a different New England team", but what i'd have to say to that is we're a different team too. We could have destroyed New England that game, but couldn't close it out.

I like our chances next week and will predict:

Denver-27
New England-20

[poothainl]

as long as we dont let them have a big rushing day we will be fine i think. :beer:

[Nomad Broncofan]

Denver wants to be recognized and get respect. Well, this is the perfect game to get that. NE is clicking and the majority of the starters are back. What a way to give Brady his first playoff loss in the Mile High City. Yes, Denver will more likely be underdogs and will not be mentioned as a contender, but we all know Denver can kick their tails. Hopefully the Broncos come with a fire and use it on the field. No playing conservative. Should be an exciting but very close game.
GO BRONCOS!

Denver 24
NE 23

[SSBRONCS]

bring on the pats. to be the champions we have to beat the champions. should be a good game but we will get the win

[sportsgeist]

I was hoping for Cincy but Beating New England will be good too.

[skte1ement]

I was just about to make a post like this.

I woudl have much rather drawn cinnci than NE, it should be a great game. I am worried about having played them earlier this year. Billicheck is a great coach and having allready played us, I think he will do a better job of drawing up a game plan than Shannahan will.

I think this will be evident on defense especially. I still like our chances, and hopefully the Broncos will come out inspired and give the fans a long awaited playoff victory.

I think a main key will be the Broncos running game and if they can keep the ball out of Brady's hands.

It will be very intersting to watch 2 of the best coaches in the league go at it. I can't wait.

GO BRONCO'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheRefinedDrunk]

NE is failing to run the ball as of recent and Denver is great at run D. However stopping Brady will be the toughest part.

I think if Denver takes plays from their game against Philly (blitzing from everywhere) then it will disrupt Brady enough to cause some errant tosses.

New England's D is weak enough that I think the run game will be easy.

[DenverFanInGB]

Denver wants to be recognized and get respect. Well, this is the perfect game to get that. NE is clicking and the majority of the starters are back. What a way to give Brady his first playoff loss in the Mile High City. Yes, Denver will more likely be underdogs and will not be mentioned as a contender, but we all know Denver can kick their tails. Hopefully the Broncos come with a fire and use it on the field. No playing conservative. Should be an exciting but very close game.
GO BRONCOS!

Denver 24
NE 23


Exactly, New England complains about not getting respect, but look at our team. We haven't gotten any recognition this season. If anyone has been disrespected it's us!!

[Buff_bronc_fan]

Denver winning the regular season matchup seems like a blessing and a curse... It's good because Denver knows they can beat NE and that gives them confidence coming in.

However...

Everyone remembers what a comeback Brady and company mounted in the 2nd half, falling just short. At times it looked as though they could score at will. Plus, these are the Patriots that haven't lost a playoff game almost 3 years.

Beating Bellicheck and Co. is never easy. Let alone twice in one season... But if the Broncos do win, they have great confidence going into the Championship game. Knocking off the defending back to back world champions has a nice ring to it.

To be the champ, you gotta beat the champ.

[JeffHPI]

I disagree. I believe Denver will be the favored team, even if it's by the customary 3 points for being the home team. Several starters are back now but don't forget the number of season ending injuries they've had. As good as they played down the stretch, the Pats still aren't the team they were last year. Definitely better than they were on October 16 but still not the scary good team they were, even on opening Thursday night this season.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

To Hell with New England. They have to come to our house and play our game. We are not the Jacksonville Jaguars or some crappy AFC East rival - we are #2 seeded, 13-3, 8-0 at home for a reason. They'd better bring their "A"-game because we won't be no easy win, B****es!

[PatriotsCanWin]

Before you get over-confident because of your week 6 dominance, just remember what happened to the Steelers last year. They dominated the Patriots on Halloween, but when it meant the most, the Patriots ended their 15 game winning streak in their house in the AFC championship game. Hopefully Dillon, Faulk, Bruschi, and Seymour will be at full strength this game and represent what the REAL Patriots are about.

Oh, and Jakes' pal Duane Starks won't be playing!

[RazR]

Forget these "be careful" posts..... you honestly think the Broncos are going to take them lightly or magically forget that the patriots are on the brink of being a dynasty?? I can guarantee you, the Broncos are going to be prepared for this game in a big way.

[SM19]

...that the patriots are on the brink of being a dynasty??

Please stop. If I hear the term "dynasty" applied one more time to a team that's only been good for four years, I'm going to do something incredibly violent.

I agree with your sentiment, though. Look for the Broncos to be real tired of the Patriot hype and put an end to it.

[RazR]

Please stop. If I hear the term "dynasty" applied one more time to a team that's only been good for four years, I'm going to do something incredibly violent.

I agree with your sentiment, though. Look for the Broncos to be real tired of the Patriot hype and put an end to it.


:)

Just know this: The Broncos can put an end to all that "dynasty" talk.

[GoPatsGo]

Should be one hell of a game! Go Pats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VADER72]

Maybe it's a blessing Cinci didn't win and we get the Pats. If Cinci won, and after Palmer got hurt, our team might have won the game, but might have been lazy and over confident for the AFCC. This will be a great battle and keep the team and fans 100% focused. Hopefully the 12th man will be crazy loud and help us. Time to get our game faces on NOW.

[pegmatite]

I'm a New England fan and the Broncos are the last team I wanted to have my team play. Indy would have been easier.

Good luck to both.

pegmatiteman

[DrunkPanda]

i'm scared for this game. i'm about 70% certain pats will beat us, yet i'm going to be so angry if it happens. i will pop a blood vessel in my brain and vent my anger on this forum

[bronc_fan23]

Im so confident about this game im gonna be betting my toosh off

[DrunkPanda]

what really scares me about new england is their ability to make half time defensive adjustments that basically shut down the other team's offense for the rest of the game. we almost never make good half time adjustments so that's a big advantage for the pats :ugh:

[pegmatite]

i'm scared for this game. i'm about 70% certain pats will beat us, yet i'm going to be so angry if it happens. i will pop a blood vessel in my brain and vent my anger on this forum
Don't worry Drunkpanda. Broncos are the only team I feel can give my Patriots a run for the money.

I'm hoping to hell the Patriots win but it won't come easy. Take your 70% and make it 50.

pegmatiteman

[Dr. Broncos]

I'm thinking that we might be underdogs which is fine to me. New England is on a roll, but we already beat them at our house this year. People will say, "well that was a different New England team", but what i'd have to say to that is we're a different team too. We could have destroyed New England that game, but couldn't close it out.


Guys, we are not the underdawgs. We have the first or second best team in the NFL according to most analyst. And we are impossible to beat at MILE HIGH. IF you watched the NE game, NE barely won, and they could have easily lost, don't look at the final score. The Pats all know this too. They are going to get their arses handed to them in Denver.

Further, when we beat them earlier... it wasn't even close. We had them the whole game. They got a garbage time TD at the end. We owned them.

Honestly, if you look at the matchups.... they don't really havea chance, and they knw it.

3 of the last 4 times we played NE, we beat them. The only time we lost was with Danny Kanell as QB, we were up 3 points with a few seconds left on the clock and Deltha Oneal screwed up while guarding Givens. Givens caugt the TD and Oneal got fired.

These guys don't have a chance against us. No one can beat Denver at hme, we have 87% winnng percentage at home.... where are you guys coming up with this doom and gloom? And Corey old man Dillon.... he ra like 60 yards on JAX and their rush Def is not as good as ours.

Come on guys, we will crush them!

As for Indy, they had a weak schedule and now have to play Pit again, and pit is actually healthy this time around. Plus its the Bus' last go around. If they knock off Indy, teh rest of the playoffs is in Denver. Go Pit!

[PatrickdaDookie]

It'll be funny. a 13-3 team coming off a bye and a four game winning streak will be underdogs at home against a 10-6 team from a weak division.

Atleast that's what I'm expecting. There are so many people predicting a Patriots repeat that there's no way a pro-Denver line will hold up.

[Dean]

I think that we have to use some common sense here. There seems to be a hint of hysteria on the board. It is obvious that the teams that make it to the second round of the play-offs are better than those that lost in the first round. What did you expect.

Now, stop and think why we got a first round bye. We had the second best record in football against the third most difficult schedule. Why the panic? The Broncos can play ball with the best of them and we have all season long. Our coaches are experienced in post season play.

Denver will not suddenly forget how to play ball. This is why the season is played. Enjoy it. Don't be frightened by it. :duh:

[GoPatsGo]

Honestly, if you look at the matchups.... they don't really havea chance, and they knw it.



Haha..don't count on that.

[BradysDynasty]

Please stop. If I hear the term "dynasty" applied one more time to a team that's only been good for four years, I'm going to do something incredibly violent.

So what do you term a "dynasty"?? Even members of all the other NFL "dynasties" say the currents Pats are one...

As for the game itself...NE will have to play it's best game of the year to win. They ALWAYS have a tough time against the Broncos. Remember this though - in the game played this year the Pats had no Brusci or Seymour (both '04 Pro Bowlers) so the running game will be a lot tougher for the Broncos.

[Dr. Broncos]

Haha..don't count on that.

Read the interviews and comments by Bilihomocheckmypanties, Brady, Fauria, Ben Watson..... then come back and talk to me.

Freaking Danny Kanell almost beat your nasty team!

[broncoswin]

These guys don't have a chance against us. No one can beat Denver at hme, we have 87% winnng percentage at home.... where are you guys coming up with this doom and gloom? And Corey old man Dillon.... he ra like 60 yards on JAX and their rush Def is not as good as ours.

Come on guys, we will crush them!

As for Indy, they had a weak schedule and now have to play Pit again, and pit is actually healthy this time around. Plus its the Bus' last go around. If they knock off Indy, teh rest of the playoffs is in Denver. Go Pit![/QUOTE]


Well said and I couldn't agree more!! The Broncos are just starting to peak!!

[PatriotsCanWin]

And Corey old man Dillon.... he ra like 60 yards on JAX and their rush Def is not as good as ours.

How good is your pass defense? That is the Patriots' strength.

The Patriots only need Dillon to open up the pass. He can be ineffective, but his presence will make the Broncos look to stop him.

[DrunkPanda]

is bruschi playing next week? haven't heard anything about him for a while

[Dr. Broncos]

So what do you term a "dynasty"?? Even members of all the other NFL "dynasties" say the currents Pats are one...

As for the game itself...NE will have to play it's best game of the year to win. They ALWAYS have a tough time against the Broncos. Remember this though - in the game played this year the Pats had no Brusci or Seymour (both '04 Pro Bowlers) so the running game will be a lot tougher for the Broncos.


In case you hadn't noticed we have three running backs that can play. We had one of the toughest two or three schedules (depending on your rating system) and still smoked everyone.

If you think you are gonna stop the No 1 rushing game in the NFL.... good luck. Bruschi will probably keel over and pass out. And old man Seymour.... yeah, tough guy there. He has no chance against us. This isn't Fred slow Taylor. And we actually have an offensive line.

[GoPatsGo]

Yes he is. Belechick didn't need him against the Jags because of their offense but he will definitely be playing against the Broncos.

[BradysDynasty]

In case you hadn't noticed we have three running backs that can play. We had one of the toughest two or three schedules (depending on your rating system) and still smoked everyone.

If you think you are gonna stop the No 1 rushing game in the NFL.... good luck. Bruschi will probably keel over and pass out. And old man Seymour.... yeah, tough guy there. He has no chance against us. This isn't Fred slow Taylor. And we actually have an offensive line.


Old man Seymour? They guy who is all of 27 years old and has only been in the league four years?? Your comments prove you know NOTHING about football...at least back up your argument with facts. And Bruschi will keel over? Bronco fans - this guy is an embarrassment to your fandom...

One last thing - don't even bring up strength of schedule...look what the Pats schedule was...

[BRONCOS_OWN_U16]

you guys didnt even play 1 real team and win this year besides us and your lucky you made the playoffs

your ride ends here


Denver actually has an experienced Offense with many Veterans especially on the O-Line and Rod Smith and Anderson

Plummer isnt a statue like Leftwich who stands in the pocket 12 seconds before he throws the ball


And Denvers Defense is even better

when you played us

only reason you had a decent air attack was because Champ Bailey wasnt even playing

Champ is back to almost 100% and dont expect it to be easy to throw against Champ

[broncoswin]

what really scares me about new england is their ability to make half time defensive adjustments that basically shut down the other team's offense for the rest of the game. we almost never make good half time adjustments so that's a big advantage for the pats :ugh:










Do you not remember the awesome halftime adjustment Denver made in week 2 against San Diego??

[PatriotsCanWin]

And old man Seymour....

uhh... Seymour is 26 and this is his 5th NFL season. That is considered old?

[ErnieNovember]

[QUOTE=skte1ement]I was just about to make a post like this.

Billicheck is a great coach and having allready played us, I think he will do a better job of drawing up a game plan than Shannahan will.

All Billichick draws up is 80% short pass plays to set up easy 3rd downs, maybe he'll throw in a few runs to set up the long pass... To say he is a better game planner then Shanahan is crazy talk.

[BRONCOS_OWN_U16]

uhh... Seymour is 26 and this is his 5th NFL season. That is considered old?

na thats concidered young and about to be on the Peak of your career

what he said about seymour and bruschi was dumb

[GoPatsGo]

you guys didnt even play 1 real team and win this year besides us and your lucky you made the playoffs

your ride ends here



How about the Steelers?

[BRONCOS_OWN_U16]

How about the Steelers?

oh of course
how could i have forgotten


you guys are clearly battle tested

[BradysDynasty]

oh of course
how could i have forgotten


you guys are clearly battle tested

Oh yeah...the Broncos are clearly battle tested against Oakland twice a year, Philly and Baltimore AND 12 of your 16 games this year were against teams that DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!!!

[DrunkPanda]

Do you not remember the awesome halftime adjustment Denver made in week 2 against San Diego??
well i said "almost never". i will try to be optimistic about this game though...... go broncos! give tom brady a career ending injury so that even if we lose, we win! (j/k about that last statement :P)

[PatriotsCanWin]

only reason you had a decent air attack was because Champ Bailey wasnt even playing

Champ is back to almost 100% and dont expect it to be easy to throw against Champ
lol, don't even go there. If you want to talk about injuries, I will lay out a list.

[PatriotsCanWin]

How about the Steelers?

What about Tampa Bay? They were pretty good.

[BRONCOS_OWN_U16]

Oh yeah...the Broncos are clearly battle tested against Oakland twice a year, Philly and Baltimore...

ok buddy

you guys have defeted 2 teams with winning records

Pitts and Bucs

3 if you want to count Miami but they did also beat you

lets look at who we beat

Cheifs ( which you guys got destoryed against)
Chargers twice ( which you guys were murdered against)
Washington
a healthy Byron Leftwich and Jags team
Dallas
Philly when they were winning and had Terrel Owens and Donovan Mcnabb and Westbrook

and guess who else
YOU guys

so dont say were not Battle tested


lol, don't even go there. If you want to talk about injuries, I will lay out a list.

You want to know who Champs Back ups are?

3 rookies
so if you think '' oh so what if Champ got hurt it doesnt even make a difference''
trust me man
a 100% Champ will be to much for mr Tom to handle

You can make a list if you would like as im curious

[DrunkPanda]

ok buddy

you guys have defeted 2 teams with winning records

Pitts and Bucs

3 if you want to count Miami but they did also beat you

lets look at who we beat

Cheifs ( which you guys got destoryed against)
Chargers twice ( which you guys were murdered against)
Washington
a healthy Byron Leftwich and Jags team
Dallas
Philly when they were winning and had Terrel Owens and Donovan Mcnabb and Westbrook

and guess who else
YOU guys

so dont say were not Battle tested




You want to know who Champs Back ups are?

3 rookies
so if you think '' oh so what if Champ got hurt it doesnt even make a difference''
trust me man
a 100% Champ will be to much for mr Tom to handle

You can make a list if you would like as im curious
i like this post. CP for you :beer:. oh, and washington BEAT your precious buccaneers so don't pat yourselves on the back too hard for beating tampa bay.

[PatrickdaDookie]

ok buddy

you guys have defeted 2 teams with winning records

Pitts and Bucs

3 if you want to count Miami but they did also beat you

lets look at who we beat

Cheifs ( which you guys got destoryed against)
Chargers twice ( which you guys were murdered against)
Washington
a healthy Byron Leftwich and Jags team
Dallas
Philly when they were winning and had Terrel Owens and Donovan Mcnabb and Westbrook

and guess who else
YOU guys

so dont say were not Battle tested




You want to know who Champs Back ups are?

3 rookies
so if you think '' oh so what if Champ got hurt it doesnt even make a difference''
trust me man
a 100% Champ will be to much for mr Tom to handle

You can make a list if you would like as im curious

CP'd as well.

The Patriots have had their share of problems this year and not the nicest schedule, by any means, but it doesn't quite reach what the Broncos were able to accomplish. That's why the game will be played at Invesco.

I am worried a bit because it's always difficult to beat a team twice in a year, and thus would have rather played Cincy, Pittsburg, or Jacksonville. But the champs are the champs until someone beats them. Ending the chance of a three-peat would exorcise some of our own demons and bolster our confidence entering our biggest game since Super Bowl XXXIII (at Indy in two weeks).

[BradysDynasty]

ok buddy

you guys have defeted 2 teams with winning records

Pitts and Bucs

3 if you want to count Miami but they did also beat you

lets look at who we beat

Cheifs ( which you guys got destoryed against)
Chargers twice ( which you guys were murdered against)
Washington
a healthy Byron Leftwich and Jags team
Dallas
Philly when they were winning and had Terrel Owens and Donovan Mcnabb and Westbrook

You can make a list if you would like as im curious

lol...OK...let's see our SECOND TEAM played against Miami in the last game to rest the starters for the playoffs and our SECOND TEAM almost beat them. How'd Denver do against Miami this year? I didn't see that in your post. Also, how'd you do at KC? I didn't see that in your post. As for SD? I'll give you that even though that was the first game without Rodney Harrison and our rookie DB's were clueless...

Dallas? You didn't win that, they lost it...Philly - when were they EVER winning this year??? Look at their record.

As for our DB's? Let's see:

Rodney Harrison - IR
Duane Starks - IR (Thank God)
Randall Gay - IR
Tyrone Poole - IR
Chad Scott - IR

Now who starts??:

Asante Samuel - remember him Jeb??
Ellis Hobbs - Rookie
Eugene Wilson
Artrell Hawkins

So don't talk about inexperienced DB's....

[steve1iron]

Mike Ditka and Sean Salisbury just picked the Patriots over the Broncos. They said the don't see how the Broncos win this one against such a battle tested team. Salisbury said the difference will be Plummer who will try to do too much and turn the ball over.

Patriots 30 Broncos 10

[PatrickdaDookie]

lol...OK...let's see our SECOND TEAM played against Miami in the last game to rest the starters for the playoffs and our SECOND TEAM almost beat them. How'd Denver do against Miami this year? I didn't see that in your post. Also, how'd you do at KC? I didn't see that in your post. As for SD? I'll give you that even though that was the first game without Rodney Harrison and our rookie DB's were clueless...

Dallas? You didn't win that, they lost it...Philly - when were they EVER winning this year??? Look at their record.

As for our DB's? Let's see:

Rodney Harrison - IR
Duane Starks - IR (Thank God)
Randall Gay - IR
Tyrone Poole - IR
Chad Scott - IR

Now who starts??:

Asante Samuel - remember him Jeb??
Ellis Hobbs - Rookie
Eugene Wilson
Artrell Hawkins

So don't talk about inexperienced DB's....

So your point is... the Patriots have no secondary depth left and will lose next weekend? Thanks for the clarification. :cheers:

[BradysDynasty]

So your point is... the Patriots have no secondary depth left and will lose next weekend? Thanks for the clarification. :cheers:

Actually it was BRONCOS_OWN_U16 who was crying about rookie DB's so learn to read earlier posts. I thought you earthy-crunchy types out there would know better...

[BRONCOS_OWN_U16]

Mike Ditka and Sean Salisbury just picked the Patriots over the Broncos. They said the don't see how the Broncos win this one against such a battle tested team. Salisbury said the difference will be Plummer who will try to do too much and turn the ball over.

Patriots 30 Broncos 10

no suprise


Sean Salisbury and all his media buddies predicted the Broncos to go 3rd in the division with an 8-8 record at best


you think anyone cares what this guy says anymore?

he's doesnt know anything about the Broncos and doesnt even watch our games

i bet if he saw Brom66's highlights he would change his opinions

dont even listen to what sean salisbury says

[BRONCOS_OWN_U16]

Actually it was BRONCOS_OWN_U16 who was crying about rookie DB's so learn to read earlier posts. I thought you earthy-crunchy types out there would know better...


Im not crying about rookie DB's

because our rookies are preforming extremley well

make sure Tom knows that and doesnt think our Rookies are some push overs

[TonyGFortheTD]

Mike Ditka and Sean Salisbury just picked the Patriots over the Broncos. They said the don't see how the Broncos win this one against such a battle tested team. Salisbury said the difference will be Plummer who will try to do too much and turn the ball over.

Patriots 30 Broncos 10
I think the Patriots may escape Denver with the win, but it sure as hell won't be by 20 points.

[BroncFanIN]

lol...OK...let's see our SECOND TEAM played against Miami in the last game to rest the starters for the playoffs and our SECOND TEAM almost beat them. How'd Denver do against Miami this year? I didn't see that in your post. Also, how'd you do at KC? I didn't see that in your post. As for SD? I'll give you that even though that was the first game without Rodney Harrison and our rookie DB's were clueless...

Dallas? You didn't win that, they lost it...Philly - when were they EVER winning this year??? Look at their record.

As for our DB's? Let's see:

Rodney Harrison - IR
Duane Starks - IR (Thank God)
Randall Gay - IR
Tyrone Poole - IR
Chad Scott - IR

Now who starts??:

Asante Samuel - remember him Jeb??
Ellis Hobbs - Rookie
Eugene Wilson
Artrell Hawkins

So don't talk about inexperienced DB's....
Sounds like excuses to me.
And we did win the game vs. Dallas. We got the W, they got the L. Great teams figure out how to win.
We face KC twice a year and consistantly split with them. We beat them 30-10 on our only MNF appearance this year, and lost by 4 the second time around-which is better than what NE did vs. Chiefs.
We swept the Chargers, playing our scrubs in the second game and still managed to stop LT.
We dominated and Eagles team that still had McNabb and TO and Westbrook.

Do not underestimate the Broncos. Like the Patriots, we know how to win games. And we'll win against yours.

[PatrickdaDookie]

Actually it was BRONCOS_OWN_U16 who was crying about rookie DB's so learn to read earlier posts. I thought you earthy-crunchy types out there would know better...

Ok, let's draw a little diagram. In order to draw this diagram correctly, I will have to use periods as space filler.

First up, this is you


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The O is obviously your head, and you can see your arms, legs, and torso. The periods are there in order to keep your body parts lined up correctly.

Next, we'll represent the point I was trying to make with this symbol


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Finally, movement will be designated by an arrow, such as this.


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So, with that cleared up, here is an illustration that may help you understand what happened.






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Let's hope you can figure out this one. ;)

[jmag]

i'm about 70% certain pats will beat us

People, including the media and even Ditka et al, are confusing the 2005 Broncos with past years. They are still saying that Broncs will show the same weaknesses that this year have been largely corrected.

I don't even think we'll get respect after we womp the Pats.

[plummer=d-man]

Read the interviews and comments by Bilihomocheckmypanties, Brady, Fauria, Ben Watson..... then come back and talk to me.

Freaking Danny Kanell almost beat your nasty team!

"Bilihomocheckmypanties" that is freakin hilarious. And yes you do hold a good point. They are afraid... very afraid. :beer:

[SM19]

So what do you term a "dynasty"?? Even members of all the other NFL "dynasties" say the currents Pats are one...

It's very hard for me to justify applying that label to any team that hasn't been consistently excellent for at least eight years, and only the 49ers and Steelers have ever met that requirement.

Don't get me wrong, I respect what the Patriots have done. I understand how hard it is to win three Super Bowls out of four in the salary cap era, but doing it doesn't make them a dynasty.

[Archimedes Owl]

How good is your pass defense? That is the Patriots' strength.

The Patriots only need Dillon to open up the pass. He can be ineffective, but his presence will make the Broncos look to stop him.
That is indeed the Patriots' strength. Luckily for the Broncos, pass defense is their strength.

They are ranked 29th in yards allowed per game, but they have also faced the most passing attempts in the league by a very wide margin, so the stats are skewed like crazy.

Denver is ranked third in completion percentage allowed, fourth in yards per passing attempt allowed and 6th in interceptions. Of course, if I am going to say that the passing yards have been skewed by facing tons of attempts, it is only fair to note that the number of interceptions has likely also been skewed by so many attempts. Still, Denver is good at getting interceptions. They have some very good safeties and incredibly fast corners who can easily stick with their man. They are very fast.

[Dr. Broncos]

Oldman Seymour?
One last thing - don't even bring up strength of schedule...look what the Pats schedule was...

We played the 2nd or 3rd toughest schedule. (depending on your ranking system) While Indy and Sea played the two easiest schedules.

And, I am not the one who calls him Oldman Seymour, I got that from your message boards.... you guys gave him that nickname. But it's fitting he plays like a grandma.

[Cuban Pete]

With Seymour back, the Pats have one of the best rushing defenses in the league. Denver won't have as easy a time running the ball against the Pats as they did back in October. Against the Jaguars, the Pats passing defense bent, but didn't break. They did a good job forcing the Jags into a short to medium passing game while shutting down their deep routes. They also stifled their running game. If I were gameplaning against the Broncos, I'd take away the deep pass and shut down the run. I think the Pats can do that.

Trash talk moment: Too bad for you guys that Carson got hurt. The Pats are one team that I wouldn't want to face, home or otherwise. :D

GO PATS!!!

[BRONCOS_OWN_U16]

With Seymour back, the Pats have one of the best rushing defenses in the league. Denver won't have as easy a time running the ball against the Pats as they did back in October. Against the Jaguars, the Pats passing defense bent, but didn't break. They did a good job forcing the Jags into a short to medium passing game while shutting down their deep routes. They also stifled their running game. If I were gameplaning against the Broncos, I'd take away the deep pass and shut down the run. I think the Pats can do that.

Trash talk moment: Too bad for you guys that Carson got hurt. The Pats are one team that I wouldn't want to face, home or otherwise. :D

GO PATS!!!

likewise with you guys trying to run on us

Broncos Defense in my opinion is superior than the Patriot Defense

Both teams have great linebackers but i think its clear that Al Wilson, Ian Gold, and DJ Williams is the best line backing group in the NFL

Also our defensive line isnt as weak as it was last year

Gerrard Warren and Trevor Pryce are great run stoppers and Pass Rushers

rotation of Courtney Brown, Ekubon, and Micheal Myers give this group great depth


Than our secondary has Champ Bailey the best CB in the NFL

I belive he should be able to blanket Branch

Our rookie DB's Foxworth and Williams should be able to hold their own against Branch and Brown

But I think Brown might give us some problems but Nick Ferguson is playing great Ball so I like him at saftey

I think our defense will be able to stop your run and force you to pass which will lead to some key INTS by Bailey and Ferguson

Then we will use Blitz packages and put Brady in the dirt

I think our Passing game has an Advantage against your secondary
Ashley Lelie should be able to get behind Ellis Hobbs for the deep ball as you guys will have to concentrate on Rod Smith

and if you even think about doubling a Reciver it will just open our running game

which opens our passing and play action game


It will be a good game but I see Denver on top by 17 points

[skte1ement]

All Billichick draws up is 80% short pass plays to set up easy 3rd downs, maybe he'll throw in a few runs to set up the long pass... To say he is a better game planner then Shanahan is crazy talk.

You can not argue that Billicheck comes up with great game plans and halftime adjustments. Shannahan is one of the great offensive masterminds and Billicheck is one of the great defensive masterminds. I am worried because defense usually wins in the playoffs.

Billicheck's offensive planning may not be as good as Shannahans, but it is still pretty damn good. I expect a very hard fought game from both teams, and an exciting matchup. I cannot wait.

[PatrickdaDookie]

The Patriots... playing a road playoff game in a hostile environment versus a team that they faced previously and is coming off a bye week...

... this might be the time when the Patriots realize how much they miss Romeo and Charlie.

[BradysDynasty]

The Patriots... playing a road playoff game in a hostile environment versus a team that they faced previously and is coming off a bye week...

... this might be the time when the Patriots realize how much they miss Romeo and Charlie.

Yeah...let's see...playing a 16-1 Steeler team last year on the road...what was THAT outcome??

[BroncoRT]

Yeah...let's see...playing a 16-1 Steeler team last year on the road...what was THAT outcome??

Last years Pats were much better and Cowher notoriously chokes in the playoffs. This should be a good game.

[PatrickdaDookie]

Yeah...let's see...playing a 16-1 Steeler team last year on the road...what was THAT outcome??

I make a point about New England missing its coordinators, and you bring up an example from last season? Are you kidding me?

[BANJOPICKER1]

what really scares me about new england is their ability to make half time defensive adjustments that basically shut down the other team's offense for the rest of the game. we almost never make good half time adjustments so that's a big advantage for the pats :ugh:


It happened this week to the Jags,come half time,we better change our game plan or we will be in trouble and you know Shanny is not known for change...

[BradysDynasty]

I make a point about New England missing its coordinators, and you bring up an example from last season? Are you kidding me?


The Patriots... playing a road playoff game in a hostile environment versus a team that they faced previously and is coming off a bye week...


You apparently have Altzheimers...that's OK...when the Pats kick the crap out of the Broncos you can go back home to Brokeback Mountain...

[BroncFanIN]

Watching the Jags/Pats game this weekend, the Jags were able to gain short yardage with the pass, either to a WR on a short route, or to a TE. While our TE are not well known, we can take advantage of this weakness in the Pat defense. Unlike the Jags, who offense is anemic at best, Denver will not give up on the run so quickly.
Remember, the Pats won against a QB that hasnt played in 6 weeks, and a dinged up runner in Fred Taylor. The Pats didnt have a 100 yard rusher, and Brady threw for just over 200 yards, and 3 TD.

The Patriots gave up 292 total yards in 62 plays. Average gain? 4.7 yards. What is even more interesting. Their D gave up 5.1 yards average on 17 rushes.

Each team held the ball for about 30 minutes.

Denver has the #1 rushing offense in the AFC Regular season, with an average of 158.7 yards per game. In passing the ball, we accumulated 3373 yards this season, with an average of 12.1 gain per reception.

The Patriots in top form? They better watch out against denver. We are more disiplined in the run than the Jags. I do not know why the Jags got away from the run with NE. At 5.1 avg...a little more persistance in that area....who knows? :confused:

Complete stats of the game can be found at: foxsports.com (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/recap?gameId=20060107017)

[Boxer21]

Originally Posted by: BRONCOS_OWN_U16
....Our rookie DB's Foxworth and Williams should be able to hold their own against Branch and Brown

But I think Brown might give us some problems but Nick Ferguson is playing great Ball so I like him at saftey



Troy Brown? You forgot about David Givens or Ben Watson. Troy Brown? He's been our all around "utility" player this year. I hope the Broncos are as unprepared as you are.

This will be a close game and not the 20 point spread Ditka and Salisbury are calling. However, the Pats will stop the run this time around. Bruschi will play, and bringing Vrabel inside changed the the whole chemistry of the Pats defense. Oh yes, Vrabel...don't forget about Vrabel. He's been pretty good on situational offensive plays. Bruschi & Vrabel inside, McGinest & Colvin outside, and don't forget about "old" Seymore. Oh yes Bronco fans, this is a very different Patriots team from what you saw in October. Pats 24 Den 21.

[oldrover]

Watching the Jags/Pats game this weekend, the Jags were able to gain short yardage with the pass, either to a WR on a short route, or to a TE. While our TE are not well known, we can take advantage of this weakness in the Pat defense. Unlike the Jags, who offense is anemic at best, Denver will not give up on the run so quickly.
Remember, the Pats won against a QB that hasnt played in 6 weeks, and a dinged up runner in Fred Taylor. The Pats didnt have a 100 yard rusher, and Brady threw for just over 200 yards, and 3 TD.

The Patriots gave up 292 total yards in 62 plays. Average gain? 4.7 yards. What is even more interesting. Their D gave up 5.1 yards average on 17 rushes.

Each team held the ball for about 30 minutes.

Denver has the #1 rushing offense in the AFC Regular season, with an average of 158.7 yards per game. In passing the ball, we accumulated 3373 yards this season, with an average of 12.1 gain per reception.

The Patriots in top form? They better watch out against denver. We are more disiplined in the run than the Jags. I do not know why the Jags got away from the run with NE. At 5.1 avg...a little more persistance in that area....who knows? :confused:

Complete stats of the game can be found at: foxsports.com (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/recap?gameId=20060107017)


The run average is deceiving. The QBs ran for a good chunk of that... Taylor was 8 for 24. I agree that your best option may be the short passing game, although your WRs aren't quite as gigantic as Jax's.

Regarding Brady's stats, while he airmailed a few balls in the first half, Branch also dropped a sure 60 yd TD, and Watson dropped an easy first down ball too. The second half, he was 8-10 for 127 and 2 TDs.

[Deck]

Oh and so we can count dropped balls as stats now TOO? :eek: Sweet! That tacks on another couple hundred yards to Lelie! Thanks for that! Where do all these fairweather Patty-trolls come from anyways?? 9 posts... 7 Posts.... Once again, where were they when they were 4-4 this season? :confused:

[TheRefinedDrunk]

Yeah...let's see...playing a 16-1 Steeler team last year on the road...what was THAT outcome??

Nothing better than living in the past

[oldrover]

Nothing better than living in the past

That's funny, coming from a board where every other person's sig is a picture of Elway. :D

[TheRefinedDrunk]

Ahhh, If only everyone could be a jackass the world would be a better place.

[Deck]

You'd have a pic of a HOF QB too if he played for your team AND won a SB for you guys IN YOUR LIFETIME.... oh...wait neither matches the criteria..... maybe next time

[HORSEPOWER 56]

What a lot of Pats' fans seem to forget is... their defense was effective against a sub-par offensive line. The Jags' O-line has been their achilles heel all season. So, sure, McGinnest gets 4.5 sacks and they pressure immobile/broken ankle Leftwich and stop a dinged up Fred Taylor.

The Jags showed zero enthusiasm in that game and still went to halftime down 7-3. In light of the fact that the Jags' had one of the worst offenses in the league and the defense was on the field for the entire third quarter, it's understandable that the Pats were able to increase their lead - that TD catch by Watson was disgraceful to any defense even Bellichick admitted it was a fluke.

Denver has the #1 rushing offense. We are the #2 seed. We played a schedule just as tough as NE and ended up 13-3 and 8-0 at home. We will run theball and we will dominate TOP. The only x-factor this weekend is turnovers. The team that gives the ball up less will win the game. Our O-line will dominate the defensive front all day. We are not the Jaguars!

[Deck]

Now that I think about it.... HOF Pats.... HOF Pats.... nope no QB's there.. oh wait Steve Gor- who? oh that guy that got blasted 46-10 in SB XX... Shoulda practiced the Superbowl Shuffle like the other team did

[Deck]

The bittersweet Days of NFC Dominance..... what a world... we got a taste of that too, though....

[PatrickdaDookie]

Troy Brown? You forgot about David Givens or Ben Watson. Troy Brown? He's been our all around "utility" player this year. I hope the Broncos are as unprepared as you are.

I drafted Givens in fantasy football this year. He's shown me nothing to be worried about. =P

[Boxer21]

I drafted Givens in fantasy football this year. He's shown me nothing to be worried about. =P

You could say that about most of the Patriots offense. They are not individuals. They play as a team and they spread it around on offense...always have.