View Full Version : Report: S. Nash to be Named NBA MVP
broncofan8791
04-26-2006, 08:38 AM
saw it on ESPNEWS.
What a complete disgrace..... :coffee:
Eldritch
04-26-2006, 09:35 AM
What a complete disgrace..... :coffee:
If this is true, then you SHOULD be disgraced. Because it means that you were wrong about not only who should be MVP, but who would be.
And if it is true it would mean I would be right! :D
If this is true, then you SHOULD be disgraced. Because it means that you were wrong about not only who should be MVP, but who would be.
And if it is true it would mean I would be right! :D
OK, this is just ridiculous, Marion deserved it more than nash, Billups deserved it more, Kobe definatly deserved it more, basically every candidate was more deserving than Steve Nash. He is certainly the most overrated player in the NBA, just shocking, that's all I can say. :duh:
Spice 1
04-26-2006, 02:07 PM
OK, this is just ridiculous, Marion deserved it more than nash, Billups deserved it more, Kobe definatly deserved it more, basically every candidate was more deserving than Steve Nash. He is certainly the most overrated player in the NBA, just shocking, that's all I can say. :duh:
First of all. Steve Nash did the same thing he did last year w/o Stoudamire.
Second. He made Shawn Marion.
Third. The only impressive thing Chauncey Billups has done this season, is manage to be in the top ten in assists, and #1 in assist to t.o. ratio. There are about fifteen other PG's in the league who could accomplish that as the Pistons starter.
I agree about Kobe, and Lebron. I think they may have deserved it a little more, but I'm not complaining with Steve Nash. I suggest you watch some Pheonix games, and focus on Nash. If you watch him run the offense closely, you'll see him doing things that nobody else in the league is doing.
The Dark Knight
04-26-2006, 02:09 PM
Who decides the NBA MVP?
OK, this is just ridiculous, Marion deserved it more than nash, Billups deserved it more, Kobe definatly deserved it more, basically every candidate was more deserving than Steve Nash. He is certainly the most overrated player in the NBA, just shocking, that's all I can say. :duh:
:confused: WOW - you are from Canada and you're hating on Nash....
Nash is the definition of a M.V.P. - he makes his whole team better -
Unless your definition of a M.V.P. is someone that scores a lot and doesn't get his teamates involved at all (Kobe)....
The only other players that I think should get serious votes are LeBron and Dirk - however - both of these guys are the focal points of their teams - take away LeBron from the Cavs where does that leave them, same for Dirk....
Nash led the Suns to the Pacific Division title and #2 seed in the West without the Suns best player (lost for the entire year) Amare - on top of that, the only players that returned from last year that saw any playing time were Marion and Barbosa....
Every player that was on the team (Marion, Diaw, Bell, House, Jones - even Tim Thomas when he came in late in the year) had a career year....
The Suns were the 1st team in history to be 1st in every offensive catagory....
Nash was only the 3rd player ever to average 50% from the field, 40% from 3's and 90% from the line....
Nash was 1st in FT% - 1st in assists and averaged a career high in ppg....
The one common denominator = Steve Nash, a.k.a. Mr. Back to back M.V.P. and only the 2nd PG ever to win back to back M.V.P.'s (the only other = Magic - pretty impressive company)
How are you going to tell me that he wasn't deserving of the M.V.P. or even more shocking that he is the most overrated player in the league :duh:
Who decides the NBA MVP?
Sports writers....
Classy post TR3Y. :beer:
Has Nash been confirmed as MVP yet or is this just a rumour?
Jared
04-26-2006, 05:01 PM
OK, this is just ridiculous, Marion deserved it more than nash, Billups deserved it more, Kobe definatly deserved it more, basically every candidate was more deserving than Steve Nash. He is certainly the most overrated player in the NBA, just shocking, that's all I can say. :duh:
Marion was not even a top 30 player until NAsh came and Amare went down.
With no Nash, Marion doesn't even get looked at as a candidate. As a matter of fact, without Nash, Marion is just another anonymous 19-9 guy, which makes him the new version of Armon Gilliam. Not exactly superstar stuff.
I still say Kobe was more derving, based on the definition of MVP (that Lakers team is a lottery team without him), but I have no qualms about Nash at all. When you put up a Magic Johnson-like season, that warrants a legit claim to the MVP.
Billups is solid, but that team is so deep that it hurts any claim to MVP for him.
:confused: WOW - you are from Canada and you're hating on Nash....
Nash is the definition of a M.V.P. - he makes his whole team better -
Unless your definition of a M.V.P. is someone that scores a lot and doesn't get his teamates involved at all (Kobe)....
The only other players that I think should get serious votes are LeBron and Dirk - however - both of these guys are the focal points of their teams - take away LeBron from the Cavs where does that leave them, same for Dirk....
Nash led the Suns to the Pacific Division title and #2 seed in the West without the Suns best player (lost for the entire year) Amare - on top of that, the only players that returned from last year that saw any playing time were Marion and Barbosa....
Every player that was on the team (Marion, Diaw, Bell, House, Jones - even Tim Thomas when he came in late in the year) had a career year....
The Suns were the 1st team in history to be 1st in every offensive catagory....
Nash was only the 3rd player ever to average 50% from the filed, 40% from 3's and 90% from the line....
Nash was 1st in FT% - 1st in assists and averaged a career high in ppg....
The one common denominator = Steve Nash, a.k.a. Mr. Back to back M.V.P. and only the 2nd PG ever to win back to back M.V.P.'s (the only other = Magic - pretty impressive company)
How are you going to tell me that he wasn't deserving of the M.V.P. or even more shocking that he is the most overrated player in the league :duh:
Replace Nash with Billups and you'll get the same if not a better result, I think Baron Davis could do a better job than Nash, there is no way you deserve MVP when you don't even average 20ppg. Once the mavs win the NBA Championship it will be pretty clear who should have won it... :coffee:
Eldritch
04-26-2006, 05:13 PM
Replace Nash with Billups and you'll get the same if not a better result,
You actually think that Billups would run Suns basketball better than Nash???
I think Baron Davis could do a better job than Nash,
Is he still in the NBA??
there is no way you deserve MVP when you don't even average 20ppg.
Once again, you show your lack of understanding of the thing.
Once the mavs win the NBA Championship it will be pretty clear who should have won it...
Okay, so NOW you're saying that the MVP should only come from the eventual NBA champions???
Really, do you think you have ANY credibility left?
Eldritch
04-26-2006, 05:17 PM
Classy post TR3Y. :beer:
Indeed.
Was there a single "expert" at the start of the season that would predict the Suns without Amare would:
1 Lead the league in scoring at 108.36, which was almost 6 ppg better than second place and rank fourth in point differential at 5.54 ppg
2.Lead the league in shooting percentage at 47.9%
3 Lead the league in three point shooting at 39.9%
4. Lead the league in assists with 26.57 per
What other team can boast of such things? How much of it can be directly or even indirectly attributed to Steve Nash?
Has Nash been confirmed as MVP yet or is this just a rumour?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2422255
Reports say Nash earns NBA MVP award
ESPN.com news services
PHOENIX -- Steve Nash will win his second straight NBA Most Valuable Player award, according to reports on several area newspapers.
The announcement may not come for two weeks, according to the Arizona Republic. But the paper, and others, report that the voting shows Nash edging LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Chauncey Billups and Kobe Bryant for the MVP.
This season, Nash had career-highs in points (18.8 points per game), rebounds (4.2 per game), field goal percentage (51.2 percent) and free throw percentage (92.1 percent -- best in the league). He was also the league-leader in assists (10.5) and shot nearly 50 percent from three-point range.
The Suns are currently playing the Los Angeles Lakers in the first round of the Western Conference playoffs.
A year ago, Nash edged Shaquille O'Neal in what was the fourth-closest balloting in history.
You actually think that Billups would run Suns basketball better than Nash???
Yes
Is he still in the NBA??
Yes
Once again, you show your lack of understanding of the thing.
You mean that it's a complete sham? :confused:
Okay, so NOW you're saying that the MVP should only come from the eventual NBA champions???
No, I'm saying that Dirk's gonna lead the mavs to the Finals and Nash won't do squat...
Really, do you think you have ANY credibility left?
I don't know, but the MVP voters sure as hell don't!
Classy post TR3Y. :beer:
Has Nash been confirmed as MVP yet or is this just a rumour?
Thanks :beer:
Replace Nash with Billups and you'll get the same if not a better result, I think Baron Davis could do a better job than Nash, there is no way you deserve MVP when you don't even average 20ppg. Once the mavs win the NBA Championship it will be pretty clear who should have won it... :coffee:
WOW - I have a hard time disagreeing with a fellow Broncos fan - but dude, you are way wrong about almost 100% of what you said - Baron Davis and Chauncey Billups could run the Suns better than Nash :confused:
Why on Earth did Bryan Colangelo and Mike D'Antoni not go out and try to bring one of them in (granted they probably weren't free agents - but a trade could have been brewed up)....
Trust me on this one - no matter what team Nash played for - that team would be twice as good with him running the show - that is the true definition of a M.V.P. in my eyes....
By the way - the Mavs are gonna get beat by the Spurs in 7 games in the semis and the Suns are gonna be at home resting getting ready for a WCF rematch after they destroy the Clippers....
Eldritch
04-26-2006, 05:36 PM
Yes
BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!
You mean that it's a complete sham?
No, I meant you have no clue what an MVP is.
No, I'm saying that Dirk's gonna lead the mavs to the Finals and Nash won't do squat...
You further indicate you have no clue. Dirk leading the Mavs to the finals doesn't prove Nash doesn't deserve to have the MVP. If anything, it further proves Nash should get it because he did so much with less of a team. The Mavs probably SHOULD go to the finals, but that doesn't mean Dirk should get the MVP. By that logic Michael Finley should be the MVP because the Mavs hadn't gone to the finals without him.
I don't know, but the MVP voters sure as hell don't!
But you don't either. First you said it should be Dirk and you were wrong. Then you said Lebron would be picked (not that he deserved, according to you) and you were wrong again. But you know better than those who vote for this year after year. Okay.
Eldritch
04-26-2006, 05:39 PM
Isn't Mark Cuban smart??
He decided not to resign a future back-to-back MVP so he could sign a $70Million center who starts on the bench!!
Spice 1
04-26-2006, 05:40 PM
Replace Nash with Billups and you'll get the same if not a better result, I think Baron Davis could do a better job than Nash, there is no way you deserve MVP when you don't even average 20ppg.:coffee:
Billups didn't average 20ppg. Now compare his stats w/Nash, and you too will believe that CHAUNCEY BILLUPS is the most overrated player in the NBA. If that doesn't convince you, look at the rosters around the two players.
And Baron Davis was in the running for MVP two years ago, so don't hate on B Diddy.
Isn't Mark Cuban smart??
He decided not to resign a future back-to-back MVP so he could sign a $70Million center who starts on the bench!!
The funny thing is the mavs are alot better without Nash and will probably win a few championships without him, I like the way Mark thinks! :D
Spice 1
04-26-2006, 06:30 PM
Chauncey Billups History
He has played for 5 NBA teams. 3 bad ones (Boston, Denver, Toronto), 1 good one (Minnesota), and 1 very good one (Detroit). He was a regular starter for all but Minnesota, wich he started about 50% of the time.
Chauncey Billups Career Highs:
PPG: '06 DET
FTPG: '06 DET
APG: '06 DET
(Teammates include Ben Wallace-All Star, Sheed Wallace-Former All Star, Richard Hamilton-All Star, Antonio McDyess-Former All Star)
FG% Before MIN (Good Team) and DET (Very Good Team): 35%
FG% After MIN and DET: 41%
APG (As A Starter) before DET: 3.5
APG (As A Starter) after DET: 6
It's not Billups, it's the players around him.
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