Training Camp Report (Kaylore)

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Herrrrrrreeeeeee we GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meck, Conklin, Disco - The whole crew is up and ready to go. I'm kicking it on the bus eating orange cheese puffs. Good times, guys. Let's get this thing going.

Ok I'll start with what everybody wants to know about: offensive line.

I got a good look at the some O-linemen because they did their drills right in front of me. Here's some things I noticed.

Chris Kuper: He was hands down the best of the "new" guys. He is powerful at the point of attack and you can see him try to ge the right angles for better leverage. Unfortunately his choices in this aren't the best so he needs some game experience to get that part down. He doesn't yield hardly any ground in pass protection and does a good job keeping the block in front of him.

Eslinger: He's very athletic but his upper body strength needs some work. He doesn't hold his blocks for long. In pass protection he gets pushed a bit but what he lacks in straight on attack power he makes for in quickness with jab-pushes. His explosion from snap-to-block is really impressive.

George Foster: He looked pretty good. I thought that was interesting. He seems to engage his blocks better and is doing a better job of forcing the attack to the outside to keep the rush end moving sideways and not in.

Nalen: Nalen is a bit slower but he was one of the best at holding his blocks. He also was hands down the best at not yielding ground in pass protection. He's not as explosive off the line but he's the hardest to get around.

Lepsis & Hamilton: I didn't see the side they were on very well and when I finally was able to see them I was too busy looking at the rest of the offense.

Cooper Carlisle: Better than last year. His technique is better and he seems even stronger. Some of that might be Foster's improved play though.

Now on to the lame stuff (QB's, Receivers, Defensive backs)


QB's:

Jay Cutler: I'm doing him first since no one really cares about him. I'm going to be blunt, he is raw but very talented. He overthrows his guys. His footwork is fine and it appears that

WOOOOOT! ROAF IS RETIRING! This has to be good news that I learned this right as I'm typing about Cutler! An omen, to be sure.

Back to Cutler. He makes some of his throws that are lazers and others that are off. He threw into double coverage twice and I believe it's because he's still learning to make his reads. One thing I was both disappointed and happy to see was that he wasn't trying to show off but make the right throw. When he is off, it's always "right off" where it's out of the defender's reach. Still, he has some work to do and it's only the first day. Remember that the offense doesn't start clicking until day 5 or 6 so don't freak out.

Preston Parsons: If we didn't draft Cutler he could have made the team as a good number 3. He makes some decent throws and makes decent reads. He's not amazing, but not bad.

BVP: The kid seems to have leveled off. He threw into double coverage twice and the camp was graced with a few of his swear words. Anthony Pacino pointed out that he almost looked better last year. As I said it's still the first day and offense has a step to go. As of right now, BVP is deserving of the second spot IMO in spite of his difficulties.

Plummer: Wow. He looked amazing. I'm not just saying that. I didn't come to camp expecting him to impress me and he really has. He makes the right throws, has a good feel for preasure and the defense was struggling to stop him. He knows where his guys and his passes were the most accurate I've seen. I mean he really flashed some skills. He even drew the defense off sides a couple times with an impressive hard count. He's this good now, I can only imagine.


Receivers:

Javon Walker: Wow this guy is good (and in freaking rehab?!?!) he and Rod were the only ones who came close to beating champ. He looks much better than I expected. He makes cuts and his speed is really quite good. If I had to describe Walker in one word it would be effortless. He turns the right way, has his hands in the right position and makes it look easy no matter who's throwing him the ball. Even his comebacks looked good. Rest assured, Bronco nation, the hype is totally justified. One thing I was really impressed with was how precise his routes were. He just sort of glides down them and it is a large part of why so many of his passes looked "right" - easier to throw to.

Rod Smith: Well Crazywhore (Roaf's gone! LOSER!) will be upset to know that he came out looking better than last year at camp. I really think Heimerdinger's coaching has upped the performance of all the wideouts across the board, actually. Polished and had some surprising explosiveness. Rod plays full speed every snap and it shows. I really wish that you guys could see the way he practices because he's easily the hardest working guy on the field.

Little TO: He's a big kid but he's a lot quicker than I expected. When I saw him in the videos I thought he looked slow. Well he isn't slow. He takes long strides and so it's deceiving. He's not FAST but he's second tier for wideouts. good hands and he does a nice jobe of using his physical presence to get to the ball. His routes were pretty good.

Watts: He had two drops. Still amazing athletic specimen and still the best at getting sepperation. His quickness is unreal and he has big potential for yards after the catch. The thing that impressed me the most was when he adjusted his route during a blitz. He was supposed to run out and saw Lynch run by and pulled in to give Van Pelt a chance. He didn't get the ball, but it was the right read.

Tony Scheffler: I know he's a TE, but he was the most impressive rookie at camp. The guy catches EVERYTHING. He has great hands. Plucks the ball from the air and neve rbody catches. He can get some mad air too. His route running was so-so but he's a rookie so I can only imagine what he'll be like months from now. I didn't see his blocking but the guy can make plays in the passing game for sure.

Charlie Adams: He looked very pedestrian and hand some drops. Then again I felt this way about him last year and he was the number 3, so what do I know? I'll tell you what I know! Roaf retired and the Chiefs suck


Defensive Backs.

They're running a lot of zone defense right now. They're really working on their drops and coverage in that regard. It's got a ways to go, but it's getting better.

Champ Bailey: No one caught a pass thrown to Champ. No one. He had an interception too. That schocked me. The closest anyone got was Rod And Javon. Walker had a catch on a fade in the endzone the Plummer threw and Bailey swatted it out of his hands. He looked beat and then he just knocked it out of his hands before he had possesion. The guy is so good. He keeps his shoulders squared and always has hips pointed toward the play. He's better than last year, but then last year he was hurt during camp, so there ya go.

Meck says "hello. Chops are heatin' up - get down here!"

D-Wil: He's really pulled away from the competition and is no contest the starter. He plays physical, he's the quickest of the D-backs and when he hits has his shoulder's squared so he hits clean and will tackle solid. His ball instincts are superior to the other D-backs. Don't look for this to change much.

'Nique: He's better than last year but not by a great deal. He is better in zone and has some good closing speed. It's just that D-wil seems to have really pulled aways and made 'Nique look "second level". Got beat a couple times.

Roc Alexander: He really impressed me. He played with a lot of fire and closed on the ball well. He's agressive and practices hard. He isn't affraid to hit. I suspect that Coyer likes him because he was praising him a couple of times.

Paymah: The difference between Paymah this year and Paymah last year is that Paymah doesn't suck this year. He gets deeper on his drops and his man coverage is good. He's actually competing whereas last year he just looked totally lost. Better, but not amazing or anything.

Curome Cox: He looked good. Was the second string free safety and made some nice plays. He didn't bit on play action and has the athleticism to cover which is a nice bonus.

Lynch: The guy is great. He reads the plays correctly and plays his zone resposibily. Some guys don't know how to defend a player through your zone. Lynch doesn't have this problem. His back peddle is nice and when he's blitzing he didn't show it until right before the snap.


Final notes.

The majority of the defense practiced on the other field, and I couldn't see them so that's why I don't have anyhting on them here's some general observations:

DJ Williams: He's much much better. I think he's really improved in play action. His play recognition is better and he doesn't bite as easily. Very athletic. He can get some amazing air.

Nate Webster: This guy could start for us. Agressive and practices hard. I like him.

Dumervil: He is tiny. Like itty bitty. Especially next Brown and Warren. When I saw him I had my doubts, but we'll see.
They worked on a lot of third downs

Will Roaf: He's retiring and the Chiefs offense sucked with him gone. Do they think they can keep going with both their left tackles and their pro-bowl fullback gone? Chiefs suck.

Nate Jackson: Yes, he looked good but I don't even want to say anything because I know he'll break a pinky and yet remain on the team.

Ok, that's who I had a good look at. Any questions, I'd be happy to answer.

There Reports are for Orangemane.com only and not be re-posted without my permission.

[daynewillreign]

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Herrrrrrreeeeeee we GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meck, Conklin, Disco - The whole crew is up and ready to go. I'm kicking it on the bus eating orange cheese puffs. Good times, guys. Let's get this thing going.

Ok I'll start with what everybody wants to know about: offensive line.

I got a good look at the some O-linemen because they did their drills right in front of me. Here's some things I noticed.

Chris Kuper: He was hands down the best of the "new" guys. He is powerful at the point of attack and you can see him try to ge the right angles for better leverage. Unfortunately his choices in this aren't the best so he needs some game experience to get that part down. He doesn't yield hardly any ground in pass protection and does a good job keeping the block in front of him.

Eslinger: He's very athletic but his upper body strength needs some work. He doesn't hold his blocks for long. In pass protection he gets pushed a bit but what he lacks in straight on attack power he makes for in quickness with jab-pushes. His explosion from snap-to-block is really impressive.

George Foster: He looked pretty good. I thought that was interesting. He seems to engage his blocks better and is doing a better job of forcing the attack to the outside to keep the rush end moving sideways and not in.

Nalen: Nalen is a bit slower but he was one of the best at holding his blocks. He also was hands down the best at not yielding ground in pass protection. He's not as explosive off the line but he's the hardest to get around.

Lepsis & Hamilton: I didn't see the side they were on very well and when I finally was able to see them I was too busy looking at the rest of the offense.

Cooper Carlisle: Better than last year. His technique is better and he seems even stronger. Some of that might be Foster's improved play though.

Now on to the lame stuff (QB's, Receivers, Defensive backs)


QB's:

Jay Cutler: I'm doing him first since no one really cares about him. I'm going to be blunt, he is raw but very talented. He overthrows his guys. His footwork is fine and it appears that

WOOOOOT! ROAF IS RETIRING! This has to be good news that I learned this right as I'm typing about Cutler! An omen, to be sure.

Back to Cutler. He makes some of his throws that are lazers and others that are off. He threw into double coverage twice and I believe it's because he's still learning to make his reads. One thing I was both disappointed and happy to see was that he wasn't trying to show off but make the right throw. When he is off, it's always "right off" where it's out of the defender's reach. Still, he has some work to do and it's only the first day. Remember that the offense doesn't start clicking until day 5 or 6 so don't freak out.

Preston Parsons: If we didn't draft Cutler he could have made the team as a good number 3. He makes some decent throws and makes decent reads. He's not amazing, but not bad.

BVP: The kid seems to have leveled off. He threw into double coverage twice and the camp was graced with a few of his swear words. Anthony Pacino pointed out that he almost looked better last year. As I said it's still the first day and offense has a step to go. As of right now, BVP is deserving of the second spot IMO in spite of his difficulties.

Plummer: Wow. He looked amazing. I'm not just saying that. I didn't come to camp expecting him to impress me and he really has. He makes the right throws, has a good feel for preasure and the defense was struggling to stop him. He knows where his guys and his passes were the most accurate I've seen. I mean he really flashed some skills. He even drew the defense off sides a couple times with an impressive hard count. He's this good now, I can only imagine.


Receivers:

Javon Walker: Wow this guy is good (and in freaking rehab?!?!) he and Rod were the only ones who came close to beating champ. He looks much better than I expected. He makes cuts and his speed is really quite good. If I had to describe Walker in one word it would be effortless. He turns the right way, has his hands in the right position and makes it look easy no matter who's throwing him the ball. Even his comebacks looked good. Rest assured, Bronco nation, the hype is totally justified. One thing I was really impressed with was how precise his routes were. He just sort of glides down them and it is a large part of why so many of his passes looked "right" - easier to throw to.

Rod Smith: Well Crazywhore (Roaf's gone! LOSER!) will be upset to know that he came out looking better than last year at camp. I really think Heimerdinger's coaching has upped the performance of all the wideouts across the board, actually. Polished and had some surprising explosiveness. Rod plays full speed every snap and it shows. I really wish that you guys could see the way he practices because he's easily the hardest working guy on the field.

Little TO: He's a big kid but he's a lot quicker than I expected. When I saw him in the videos I thought he looked slow. Well he isn't slow. He takes long strides and so it's deceiving. He's not FAST but he's second tier for wideouts. good hands and he does a nice jobe of using his physical presence to get to the ball. His routes were pretty good.

Watts: He had two drops. Still amazing athletic specimen and still the best at getting sepperation. His quickness is unreal and he has big potential for yards after the catch. The thing that impressed me the most was when he adjusted his route during a blitz. He was supposed to run out and saw Lynch run by and pulled in to give Van Pelt a chance. He didn't get the ball, but it was the right read.

Tony Scheffler: I know he's a TE, but he was the most impressive rookie at camp. The guy catches EVERYTHING. He has great hands. Plucks the ball from the air and neve rbody catches. He can get some mad air too. His route running was so-so but he's a rookie so I can only imagine what he'll be like months from now. I didn't see his blocking but the guy can make plays in the passing game for sure.

Charlie Adams: He looked very pedestrian and hand some drops. Then again I felt this way about him last year and he was the number 3, so what do I know? I'll tell you what I know! Roaf retired and the Chiefs suck


Defensive Backs.

They're running a lot of zone defense right now. They're really working on their drops and coverage in that regard. It's got a ways to go, but it's getting better.

Champ Bailey: No one caught a pass thrown to Champ. No one. He had an interception too. That schocked me. The closest anyone got was Rod And Javon. Walker had a catch on a fade in the endzone the Plummer threw and Bailey swatted it out of his hands. He looked beat and then he just knocked it out of his hands before he had possesion. The guy is so good. He keeps his shoulders squared and always has hips pointed toward the play. He's better than last year, but then last year he was hurt during camp, so there ya go.

Meck says "hello. Chops are heatin' up - get down here!"

D-Wil: He's really pulled away from the competition and is no contest the starter. He plays physical, he's the quickest of the D-backs and when he hits has his shoulder's squared so he hits clean and will tackle solid. His ball instincts are superior to the other D-backs. Don't look for this to change much.

'Nique: He's better than last year but not by a great deal. He is better in zone and has some good closing speed. It's just that D-wil seems to have really pulled aways and made 'Nique look "second level". Got beat a couple times.

Roc Alexander: He really impressed me. He played with a lot of fire and closed on the ball well. He's agressive and practices hard. He isn't affraid to hit. I suspect that Coyer likes him because he was praising him a couple of times.

Paymah: The difference between Paymah this year and Paymah last year is that Paymah doesn't suck this year. He gets deeper on his drops and his man coverage is good. He's actually competing whereas last year he just looked totally lost. Better, but not amazing or anything.

Curome Cox: He looked good. Was the second string free safety and made some nice plays. He didn't bit on play action and has the athleticism to cover which is a nice bonus.

Lynch: The guy is great. He reads the plays correctly and plays his zone resposibily. Some guys don't know how to defend a player through your zone. Lynch doesn't have this problem. His back peddle is nice and when he's blitzing he didn't show it until right before the snap.


Final notes.

The majority of the defense practiced on the other field, and I couldn't see them so that's why I don't have anyhting on them here's some general observations:

DJ Williams: He's much much better. I think he's really improved in play action. His play recognition is better and he doesn't bite as easily. Very athletic. He can get some amazing air.

Nate Webster: This guy could start for us. Agressive and practices hard. I like him.

Dumervil: He is tiny. Like itty bitty. Especially next Brown and Warren. When I saw him I had my doubts, but we'll see.
They worked on a lot of third downs

Will Roaf: He's retiring and the Chiefs offense sucked with him gone. Do they think they can keep going with both their left tackles and their pro-bowl fullback gone? Chiefs suck.

Nate Jackson: Yes, he looked good but I don't even want to say anything because I know he'll break a pinky and yet remain on the team.

Ok, that's who I had a good look at. Any questions, I'd be happy to answer.

There Reports are for Orangemane.com only and not be re-posted without my permission.


how did dayne and tater look ?!

[KillerBs]

Thanks alot, may i use this report at maddennation.com(will give you and orangemane credit of course)? Thanks...

[champbronc2]

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Herrrrrrreeeeeee we GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meck, Conklin, Disco - The whole crew is up and ready to go. I'm kicking it on the bus eating orange cheese puffs. Good times, guys. Let's get this thing going.

Ok I'll start with what everybody wants to know about: offensive line.

I got a good look at the some O-linemen because they did their drills right in front of me. Here's some things I noticed.

Chris Kuper: He was hands down the best of the "new" guys. He is powerful at the point of attack and you can see him try to ge the right angles for better leverage. Unfortunately his choices in this aren't the best so he needs some game experience to get that part down. He doesn't yield hardly any ground in pass protection and does a good job keeping the block in front of him.

Eslinger: He's very athletic but his upper body strength needs some work. He doesn't hold his blocks for long. In pass protection he gets pushed a bit but what he lacks in straight on attack power he makes for in quickness with jab-pushes. His explosion from snap-to-block is really impressive.

George Foster: He looked pretty good. I thought that was interesting. He seems to engage his blocks better and is doing a better job of forcing the attack to the outside to keep the rush end moving sideways and not in.

Nalen: Nalen is a bit slower but he was one of the best at holding his blocks. He also was hands down the best at not yielding ground in pass protection. He's not as explosive off the line but he's the hardest to get around.

Lepsis & Hamilton: I didn't see the side they were on very well and when I finally was able to see them I was too busy looking at the rest of the offense.

Cooper Carlisle: Better than last year. His technique is better and he seems even stronger. Some of that might be Foster's improved play though.

Now on to the lame stuff (QB's, Receivers, Defensive backs)


QB's:

Jay Cutler: I'm doing him first since no one really cares about him. I'm going to be blunt, he is raw but very talented. He overthrows his guys. His footwork is fine and it appears that

WOOOOOT! ROAF IS RETIRING! This has to be good news that I learned this right as I'm typing about Cutler! An omen, to be sure.

Back to Cutler. He makes some of his throws that are lazers and others that are off. He threw into double coverage twice and I believe it's because he's still learning to make his reads. One thing I was both disappointed and happy to see was that he wasn't trying to show off but make the right throw. When he is off, it's always "right off" where it's out of the defender's reach. Still, he has some work to do and it's only the first day. Remember that the offense doesn't start clicking until day 5 or 6 so don't freak out.

Preston Parsons: If we didn't draft Cutler he could have made the team as a good number 3. He makes some decent throws and makes decent reads. He's not amazing, but not bad.

BVP: The kid seems to have leveled off. He threw into double coverage twice and the camp was graced with a few of his swear words. Anthony Pacino pointed out that he almost looked better last year. As I said it's still the first day and offense has a step to go. As of right now, BVP is deserving of the second spot IMO in spite of his difficulties.

Plummer: Wow. He looked amazing. I'm not just saying that. I didn't come to camp expecting him to impress me and he really has. He makes the right throws, has a good feel for preasure and the defense was struggling to stop him. He knows where his guys and his passes were the most accurate I've seen. I mean he really flashed some skills. He even drew the defense off sides a couple times with an impressive hard count. He's this good now, I can only imagine.


Receivers:

Javon Walker: Wow this guy is good (and in freaking rehab?!?!) he and Rod were the only ones who came close to beating champ. He looks much better than I expected. He makes cuts and his speed is really quite good. If I had to describe Walker in one word it would be effortless. He turns the right way, has his hands in the right position and makes it look easy no matter who's throwing him the ball. Even his comebacks looked good. Rest assured, Bronco nation, the hype is totally justified. One thing I was really impressed with was how precise his routes were. He just sort of glides down them and it is a large part of why so many of his passes looked "right" - easier to throw to.

Rod Smith: Well Crazywhore (Roaf's gone! LOSER!) will be upset to know that he came out looking better than last year at camp. I really think Heimerdinger's coaching has upped the performance of all the wideouts across the board, actually. Polished and had some surprising explosiveness. Rod plays full speed every snap and it shows. I really wish that you guys could see the way he practices because he's easily the hardest working guy on the field.

Little TO: He's a big kid but he's a lot quicker than I expected. When I saw him in the videos I thought he looked slow. Well he isn't slow. He takes long strides and so it's deceiving. He's not FAST but he's second tier for wideouts. good hands and he does a nice jobe of using his physical presence to get to the ball. His routes were pretty good.

Watts: He had two drops. Still amazing athletic specimen and still the best at getting sepperation. His quickness is unreal and he has big potential for yards after the catch. The thing that impressed me the most was when he adjusted his route during a blitz. He was supposed to run out and saw Lynch run by and pulled in to give Van Pelt a chance. He didn't get the ball, but it was the right read.

Tony Scheffler: I know he's a TE, but he was the most impressive rookie at camp. The guy catches EVERYTHING. He has great hands. Plucks the ball from the air and neve rbody catches. He can get some mad air too. His route running was so-so but he's a rookie so I can only imagine what he'll be like months from now. I didn't see his blocking but the guy can make plays in the passing game for sure.

Charlie Adams: He looked very pedestrian and hand some drops. Then again I felt this way about him last year and he was the number 3, so what do I know? I'll tell you what I know! Roaf retired and the Chiefs suck


Defensive Backs.

They're running a lot of zone defense right now. They're really working on their drops and coverage in that regard. It's got a ways to go, but it's getting better.

Champ Bailey: No one caught a pass thrown to Champ. No one. He had an interception too. That schocked me. The closest anyone got was Rod And Javon. Walker had a catch on a fade in the endzone the Plummer threw and Bailey swatted it out of his hands. He looked beat and then he just knocked it out of his hands before he had possesion. The guy is so good. He keeps his shoulders squared and always has hips pointed toward the play. He's better than last year, but then last year he was hurt during camp, so there ya go.

Meck says "hello. Chops are heatin' up - get down here!"

D-Wil: He's really pulled away from the competition and is no contest the starter. He plays physical, he's the quickest of the D-backs and when he hits has his shoulder's squared so he hits clean and will tackle solid. His ball instincts are superior to the other D-backs. Don't look for this to change much.

'Nique: He's better than last year but not by a great deal. He is better in zone and has some good closing speed. It's just that D-wil seems to have really pulled aways and made 'Nique look "second level". Got beat a couple times.

Roc Alexander: He really impressed me. He played with a lot of fire and closed on the ball well. He's agressive and practices hard. He isn't affraid to hit. I suspect that Coyer likes him because he was praising him a couple of times.

Paymah: The difference between Paymah this year and Paymah last year is that Paymah doesn't suck this year. He gets deeper on his drops and his man coverage is good. He's actually competing whereas last year he just looked totally lost. Better, but not amazing or anything.

Curome Cox: He looked good. Was the second string free safety and made some nice plays. He didn't bit on play action and has the athleticism to cover which is a nice bonus.

Lynch: The guy is great. He reads the plays correctly and plays his zone resposibily. Some guys don't know how to defend a player through your zone. Lynch doesn't have this problem. His back peddle is nice and when he's blitzing he didn't show it until right before the snap.


Final notes.

The majority of the defense practiced on the other field, and I couldn't see them so that's why I don't have anyhting on them here's some general observations:

DJ Williams: He's much much better. I think he's really improved in play action. His play recognition is better and he doesn't bite as easily. Very athletic. He can get some amazing air.

Nate Webster: This guy could start for us. Agressive and practices hard. I like him.

Dumervil: He is tiny. Like itty bitty. Especially next Brown and Warren. When I saw him I had my doubts, but we'll see.
They worked on a lot of third downs

Will Roaf: He's retiring and the Chiefs offense sucked with him gone. Do they think they can keep going with both their left tackles and their pro-bowl fullback gone? Chiefs suck.

Nate Jackson: Yes, he looked good but I don't even want to say anything because I know he'll break a pinky and yet remain on the team.

Ok, that's who I had a good look at. Any questions, I'd be happy to answer.

There Reports are for Orangemane.com only and not be re-posted without my permission.
Thanks. I have extremely high hopes for Watts. I might put him in my sig soon.

[ND Bronco Fan]

Thanks alot, may i use this report at maddennation.com(will give you and orangemane credit of course)? Thanks...

Sounds like from the last line that he wants his reports to remain on the mane.

[hilife]

Good job. Like the report. Can't wait till the next one

[Snapping Turtle]

Thanks for posting this, its good to hear that Plummer is looking good!

[Jaws]

Thanks for posting this, its good to hear that Plummer is looking good!

Doesn't he always look good? ;)

[KeystoneBronco]

First off, great report, and we here who are not at camp (but at work instead..ugh) really appreciate it.

Secondly, guys.. come on.. is it really necesarry to quote that long-arse post for your tiny one sentance statements?

Really...

Keep up the great updates man! Want to hear more! I'll be there on Sunday! woooooot!


Edit: Where's the best place to get to on the field?

[hilife]

Thanks for posting this, its good to hear that Plummer is looking good!

That is good news. Espically since it sounds like Cutler will need some time.

[topscribe]

Thanks for the report. :cheers:

I assume you did have Kaylore's permission.

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[ReleaseTheBeast7]

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Herrrrrrreeeeeee we GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meck, Conklin, Disco - The whole crew is up and ready to go. I'm kicking it on the bus eating orange cheese puffs. Good times, guys. Let's get this thing going.

Ok I'll start with what everybody wants to know about: offensive line.

I got a good look at the some O-linemen because they did their drills right in front of me. Here's some things I noticed.

Chris Kuper: He was hands down the best of the "new" guys. He is powerful at the point of attack and you can see him try to ge the right angles for better leverage. Unfortunately his choices in this aren't the best so he needs some game experience to get that part down. He doesn't yield hardly any ground in pass protection and does a good job keeping the block in front of him.

Eslinger: He's very athletic but his upper body strength needs some work. He doesn't hold his blocks for long. In pass protection he gets pushed a bit but what he lacks in straight on attack power he makes for in quickness with jab-pushes. His explosion from snap-to-block is really impressive.

George Foster: He looked pretty good. I thought that was interesting. He seems to engage his blocks better and is doing a better job of forcing the attack to the outside to keep the rush end moving sideways and not in.

Nalen: Nalen is a bit slower but he was one of the best at holding his blocks. He also was hands down the best at not yielding ground in pass protection. He's not as explosive off the line but he's the hardest to get around.

Lepsis & Hamilton: I didn't see the side they were on very well and when I finally was able to see them I was too busy looking at the rest of the offense.

Cooper Carlisle: Better than last year. His technique is better and he seems even stronger. Some of that might be Foster's improved play though.

Now on to the lame stuff (QB's, Receivers, Defensive backs)


QB's:

Jay Cutler: I'm doing him first since no one really cares about him. I'm going to be blunt, he is raw but very talented. He overthrows his guys. His footwork is fine and it appears that

WOOOOOT! ROAF IS RETIRING! This has to be good news that I learned this right as I'm typing about Cutler! An omen, to be sure.

Back to Cutler. He makes some of his throws that are lazers and others that are off. He threw into double coverage twice and I believe it's because he's still learning to make his reads. One thing I was both disappointed and happy to see was that he wasn't trying to show off but make the right throw. When he is off, it's always "right off" where it's out of the defender's reach. Still, he has some work to do and it's only the first day. Remember that the offense doesn't start clicking until day 5 or 6 so don't freak out.

Preston Parsons: If we didn't draft Cutler he could have made the team as a good number 3. He makes some decent throws and makes decent reads. He's not amazing, but not bad.

BVP: The kid seems to have leveled off. He threw into double coverage twice and the camp was graced with a few of his swear words. Anthony Pacino pointed out that he almost looked better last year. As I said it's still the first day and offense has a step to go. As of right now, BVP is deserving of the second spot IMO in spite of his difficulties.

Plummer: Wow. He looked amazing. I'm not just saying that. I didn't come to camp expecting him to impress me and he really has. He makes the right throws, has a good feel for preasure and the defense was struggling to stop him. He knows where his guys and his passes were the most accurate I've seen. I mean he really flashed some skills. He even drew the defense off sides a couple times with an impressive hard count. He's this good now, I can only imagine.


Receivers:

Javon Walker: Wow this guy is good (and in freaking rehab?!?!) he and Rod were the only ones who came close to beating champ. He looks much better than I expected. He makes cuts and his speed is really quite good. If I had to describe Walker in one word it would be effortless. He turns the right way, has his hands in the right position and makes it look easy no matter who's throwing him the ball. Even his comebacks looked good. Rest assured, Bronco nation, the hype is totally justified. One thing I was really impressed with was how precise his routes were. He just sort of glides down them and it is a large part of why so many of his passes looked "right" - easier to throw to.

Rod Smith: Well Crazywhore (Roaf's gone! LOSER!) will be upset to know that he came out looking better than last year at camp. I really think Heimerdinger's coaching has upped the performance of all the wideouts across the board, actually. Polished and had some surprising explosiveness. Rod plays full speed every snap and it shows. I really wish that you guys could see the way he practices because he's easily the hardest working guy on the field.

Little TO: He's a big kid but he's a lot quicker than I expected. When I saw him in the videos I thought he looked slow. Well he isn't slow. He takes long strides and so it's deceiving. He's not FAST but he's second tier for wideouts. good hands and he does a nice jobe of using his physical presence to get to the ball. His routes were pretty good.

Watts: He had two drops. Still amazing athletic specimen and still the best at getting sepperation. His quickness is unreal and he has big potential for yards after the catch. The thing that impressed me the most was when he adjusted his route during a blitz. He was supposed to run out and saw Lynch run by and pulled in to give Van Pelt a chance. He didn't get the ball, but it was the right read.

Tony Scheffler: I know he's a TE, but he was the most impressive rookie at camp. The guy catches EVERYTHING. He has great hands. Plucks the ball from the air and neve rbody catches. He can get some mad air too. His route running was so-so but he's a rookie so I can only imagine what he'll be like months from now. I didn't see his blocking but the guy can make plays in the passing game for sure.

Charlie Adams: He looked very pedestrian and hand some drops. Then again I felt this way about him last year and he was the number 3, so what do I know? I'll tell you what I know! Roaf retired and the Chiefs suck


Defensive Backs.

They're running a lot of zone defense right now. They're really working on their drops and coverage in that regard. It's got a ways to go, but it's getting better.

Champ Bailey: No one caught a pass thrown to Champ. No one. He had an interception too. That schocked me. The closest anyone got was Rod And Javon. Walker had a catch on a fade in the endzone the Plummer threw and Bailey swatted it out of his hands. He looked beat and then he just knocked it out of his hands before he had possesion. The guy is so good. He keeps his shoulders squared and always has hips pointed toward the play. He's better than last year, but then last year he was hurt during camp, so there ya go.

Meck says "hello. Chops are heatin' up - get down here!"

D-Wil: He's really pulled away from the competition and is no contest the starter. He plays physical, he's the quickest of the D-backs and when he hits has his shoulder's squared so he hits clean and will tackle solid. His ball instincts are superior to the other D-backs. Don't look for this to change much.

'Nique: He's better than last year but not by a great deal. He is better in zone and has some good closing speed. It's just that D-wil seems to have really pulled aways and made 'Nique look "second level". Got beat a couple times.

Roc Alexander: He really impressed me. He played with a lot of fire and closed on the ball well. He's agressive and practices hard. He isn't affraid to hit. I suspect that Coyer likes him because he was praising him a couple of times.

Paymah: The difference between Paymah this year and Paymah last year is that Paymah doesn't suck this year. He gets deeper on his drops and his man coverage is good. He's actually competing whereas last year he just looked totally lost. Better, but not amazing or anything.

Curome Cox: He looked good. Was the second string free safety and made some nice plays. He didn't bit on play action and has the athleticism to cover which is a nice bonus.

Lynch: The guy is great. He reads the plays correctly and plays his zone resposibily. Some guys don't know how to defend a player through your zone. Lynch doesn't have this problem. His back peddle is nice and when he's blitzing he didn't show it until right before the snap.


Final notes.

The majority of the defense practiced on the other field, and I couldn't see them so that's why I don't have anyhting on them here's some general observations:

DJ Williams: He's much much better. I think he's really improved in play action. His play recognition is better and he doesn't bite as easily. Very athletic. He can get some amazing air.

Nate Webster: This guy could start for us. Agressive and practices hard. I like him.

Dumervil: He is tiny. Like itty bitty. Especially next Brown and Warren. When I saw him I had my doubts, but we'll see.
They worked on a lot of third downs

Will Roaf: He's retiring and the Chiefs offense sucked with him gone. Do they think they can keep going with both their left tackles and their pro-bowl fullback gone? Chiefs suck.

Nate Jackson: Yes, he looked good but I don't even want to say anything because I know he'll break a pinky and yet remain on the team.

Ok, that's who I had a good look at. Any questions, I'd be happy to answer.

There Reports are for Orangemane.com only and not be re-posted without my permission.

Football... Has... Started :rockon:

[Snapping Turtle]

Doesn't he always look good? ;)

Yes you are correct!

[Inkana7]

Great to hear, great to hear.

Champ is a beast. But I bet my boy Darius could get a catch on him! :D

[WABronco]

Good to hear on Adams...I hope he doesn't make the second round of cuts...

[Krugan]

Goooood grief guys, you dont need to quote the book to type a single sentence response.

Sounds like solid day 1 information.

[2 Minute Warning]

Thanks for posting it and thank Kaylore too. :beer:

[BroncFanIN]

Great reporting!

I liked the stuff on the DB's and WR. If Javon and Rod can get better with Champ defending him...watch out WR core! :D

So glad to hear the first day went so well!

GO BRONCOS!! :rockon:

It's football season! woohoo!!!

[Inkana7]

You missed the RB stuff, if Kaylore asks, I didn't post it. :coffee:


Tatum Bell: Looked average. He doesn't have very good vision. His pass catching has improved but he'll run into where he wishes the hole was - reality be damned.

Dayne: Ok. Nothing that really awed me. His body control is a little shakey. Guys would shove him and he'd stumble which I don't like to see.

Cobbs: Ok

Cecil Sapp: This guy is the first team fullback right now and he's pretty impressive. He's got good hands and throws some powerful blocks. He's not as quick as KJ, but he's more explosive. I think we'll see some good things from him this season.

...Sorry for the delay. Limo Driver got me.

[BroncFanIN]

Doesn't he always look good? ;)
hubba hubba! :D

Hi Jawsie! :wave:

Are you ready for some football?!

[KyLewin]

This report is brought to you by Kaylore at the mane. Orange mane (http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1199600&postcount=39)
QB's:

...

Plummer: Wow. He looked amazing. I'm not just saying that. I didn't come to camp expecting him to impress me and he really has. He makes the right throws, has a good feel for preasure and the defense was struggling to stop him. He knows where his guys and his passes were the most accurate I've seen. I mean he really flashed some skills. He even drew the defense off sides a couple times with an impressive hard count. He's this good now, I can only imagine.

...

There Reports are for Orangemane.com only and not be re-posted without my permission.

Well, at first I thought this must be a joke, because there's no way Plummer is doing as well as described here... I mean, come on, he's Plummer, but then I realized that since Plummer is number 16 and Cutler is number 6, obviously there was a mix up. Then the world seemed to make sense again.

Okay, I'm done being dumb....

Thanks for the report. It was particularly good to hear that D.Will is even better than last year and that Walker seems to be healing nicely. The report on Cutler is about what I expected, really. He is still a rookie and will thus be a bit raw, particularly considering the college program he was in, I'm sure next year will be his year to really shine in camp and show off his improvements.

[Jaws]

hubba hubba! :D

Hi Jawsie! :wave:

Are you ready for some football?!

You bet!

These training reports are getting me all excited.

I love this time of year :beer:

[BroncFanIN]

You bet!

These training reports are getting me all excited.

I love this time of year :beer:
Same here! I can just feel the excitement!

I guess it also helped to hear Roaf retired today, too! :D I mean, I'm really happy he's decided to spend time with his family and all that... ;)

[The_Roses_Thorn]

Great report, my compliments to Kaylore. Hopefully he can get a better and more in depth look at the RB situation as that left a fair deal to the imagination. Bell's lack of vision sounds disappointing, but there isn't a whole lot to judge by from that. His comment on Cobbs being, "Ok," leaves much to the imagination, and there wasn't a whole lot to chew on.

Everything else was great (except for the constant reminders about Roaf... we already know he's retired) :beer: .

[Jaws]

I guess it also helped to hear Roaf retired today, too! I mean, I'm really happy he's decided to spend time with his family and all that... ;)

Touching indeed ;)

Drafting LJ in my two FF leagues doesn't look like quite such a good move now! :duh:

[BroncFanIN]

Touching indeed ;)

Drafting LJ in my two FF leagues doesn't look like quite such a good move now! :duh:
I was thinking of that...very happy I drafted LT....but these are the chances you take when drafts are so early! :ugh:

[The Dark Knight]

Touching indeed ;)

Drafting LJ in my two FF leagues doesn't look like quite such a good move now! :duh:



Yeah, those are the chances you take when you draft early.

He'll still be pretty good.

[tnedator]

Big thanks to Kaylore for the report and domostick for posting it here.

[BayAreaBronco]

Good to hear on Adams...I hope he doesn't make the second round of cuts...

LOL!!!

You crazy WA...

[D.J.55]

thanks for the report. its good to know that our players are working hard. can someone give me a report on how hamza abdullah did?

[jhns]

I liked the report and to hear what is going on in camp. One thing though, he said Champ got an interception and the main page says that he didn't get one.

"Turnovers were in short supply for the defense; Demetrin Veal notched the only interception of the day, nabbing a short pass up the middle off the arm of Jay Cutler."

[VADER72]

I was at practice this morning as well. Almost got ran over by Brandon Marshall after a nice catch on the sidelines. Cutler did throw a few pasees that went over the receiver. Just jitters i'm sure from cashing that new paycheck in the bank . Jake did look good and you could sense he is the leader. I took 161 pictures and a few show Jay watching Jake and you can just tell Jay knows Jake is the leader. Javon looked great. I was worried, but he was flying down the field and looked great. Rod Is Rod, nothing else to say. Darious did drop a few passes, but so did others. I heard Tony Sheffler gets ripped at least two times by the coaches. Oh by the way, Chiefs, Raiders and Chargers all suck.

[chickennob2]

Great post. One of the most well written reports I have read on here. Including things from the Post and ESPN. Give this man a job.

[Bronco T]

good post, good info. i think it is a little premature though to say who is better this year or last year after 2 hours of the season.

[The Hamburgler]

Any info on Mike Bell?

[jhns]

Any info on Mike Bell?
Only thing I have seen is this: "while some extra hustle from Curome Cox allowed him to strip the football from running back Mike Bell."

[GIVEME6]

From the numerous draft profiles I've read on Mike Bell, he isn't a fumbler. Cobbs is said to be great at holding onto the ball as well. I'd love to hear some info on how Cobbs is doing so far.

[ReleaseTheBeast7]

You missed the RB stuff, if Kaylore asks, I didn't post it. :coffee:


Tatum Bell: Looked average. He doesn't have very good vision. His pass catching has improved but he'll run into where he wishes the hole was - reality be damned.

Dayne: Ok. Nothing that really awed me. His body control is a little shakey. Guys would shove him and he'd stumble which I don't like to see.

Cobbs: Ok

Cecil Sapp: This guy is the first team fullback right now and he's pretty impressive. He's got good hands and throws some powerful blocks. He's not as quick as KJ, but he's more explosive. I think we'll see some good things from him this season.

...Sorry for the delay. Limo Driver got me.

Yeah........ Our RBs suck...

Thomas Jones FTW

[Nick]

Ian GOld made Mike Bell fumble (striped ball)

Mike Bell needs a lot of work I am just glad they are already giving him reps with #1 D

[jhns]

Ian GOld made Mike Bell fumble (striped ball)

Mike Bell needs a lot of work I am just glad they are already giving him reps with #1 D
Cox stripped the ball according the the main pages article.

[ReleaseTheBeast7]

Ian GOld made Mike Bell fumble (striped ball)

Mike Bell needs a lot of work I am just glad they are already giving him reps with #1 D

Mike Bell isn't ever going to be anything over a #3 RB, I could care less what he does.

We need another RB... And soon.

[GIVEME6]

I gotta say that I agree with you.

[The Hamburgler]

Mike Bell isn't ever going to be anything over a #3 RB, I could care less what he does.

We need another RB... And soon.

That was what people were saying about TD and look :salute:

[Nick]

Cox stripped the ball according the the main pages article.

Sorry it was Coz with the FF Ian GOld almost droped a pick or somthing

[D.J.55]

can some give me a more detailed report on dj williams and hamza abdullah?

[jhns]

Sorry it was Coz with the FF Ian GOld almost droped a pick or somthing
Thats right.. don't mess up again. ;)

[smalltowngrll]

There Reports are for Orangemane.com only and not be re-posted without my permission.

Just out of curiosity....did you get his permission to repost?

[Kaylore]

No, he didn't and to be honest I'm kind of upset about it. In the future please post a portion of the report and just paste the link to the Orangemane.com in the post. And I'd appreciate it if people would ask me before posting my stuff. :mad:

[Domostick]

No, he didn't and to be honest I'm kind of upset about it. In the future please post a portion of the report and just paste the link to the Orangemane.com in the post. And I'd appreciate it if people would ask me before posting my stuff. :mad:

Opps im sorry, ill do that next time, but nice reports dude keep up the very good work.

[ReleaseTheBeast7]

That was what people were saying about TD and look :salute:

TD is one of a kind, and TD also didn't go undrafted... If you're saying that Mike Bell will be anything like TD, then you're -- eh, I'm not even going to say it and get in trouble again :coffee:

[Javalon]

TD is one of a kind, and TD also didn't go undrafted... If you're saying that Mike Bell will be anything like TD, then you're -- eh, I'm not even going to say it and get in trouble again :coffee:
I could be mistaken but I believe his point about T.D. was only that you can't always tell when an unheralded rookie will step up. The Broncos obviously thought Mike Bell had potential or they wouldn't have signed him.

Obviously it would be insane to claim Mike Bell was going to turn out as incredible as T.D. did.

[The Hamburgler]

I could be mistaken but I believe his point about T.D. was only that you can't always tell when an unheralded rookie will step up. The Broncos obviously thought Mike Bell had potential or they wouldn't have signed him.

Obviously it would be insane to claim Mike Bell was going to turn out as incredible as T.D. did.

Javalon got my point. you never know what someone will do. I.E. Rod, TD, Even Tom Brady. You just never know.

[watchthemiddle]

Great post. One of the most well written reports I have read on here. Including things from the Post and ESPN. Give this man a job.


Thats what I am saying...no "hollier than thou" espn, foxsports, sports illutstrated tired analysis. Just up front and point blank.

I look forward to more if you do more ( Kaylore that is, if he reads this )

Good stuff about Jake, Champ, and DJ Williams.

:beer: