Go Cutler Go!

[cutlerfan]

The offensive unit that enjoyed the most success in the "move-the-ball" drills was once again the Jay Cutler-led third-team offense, which marched to a touchdown against the No. 3 defense. The drive opened with what first appeared to be a 70-yard swing pass touchdown from Cutler to Brandon Miree, but the play was brought back to the offense's 37-yard-line for a 7-yard gain. (From this reporter's eyes, Miree's foot appeared to hit the sideline at around that spot.) That didn't faze the offense, which would convert four consecutive third downs. Cedric Cobbs converted two via a 4-yard third-and-1 run and a 10-yard catch-and-run on third-and-10. The others came via offsides and pass-interference penalties. Mike Bell concluded the march -- and the entire practice itself -- with a 1-yard plunge.


I like that

"The offensive unit that enjoyed the most success in the "move-the-ball" drills was once again the Jay Cutler-led third-team offense, which marched to a touchdown against the No. 3 defense"

[Kaylore]

He was a large reason that it worked. Made good decisions and he is thinking less and less and just playing, though I gotta say they let him have a freebie when Partick Chukwurah tagged him just before he threw the ball on a rollout. Should have been a sack.

[TXBRONC]

The offensive unit that enjoyed the most success in the "move-the-ball" drills was once again the Jay Cutler-led third-team offense, which marched to a touchdown against the No. 3 defense. The drive opened with what first appeared to be a 70-yard swing pass touchdown from Cutler to Brandon Miree, but the play was brought back to the offense's 37-yard-line for a 7-yard gain. (From this reporter's eyes, Miree's foot appeared to hit the sideline at around that spot.) That didn't faze the offense, which would convert four consecutive third downs. Cedric Cobbs converted two via a 4-yard third-and-1 run and a 10-yard catch-and-run on third-and-10. The others came via offsides and pass-interference penalties. Mike Bell concluded the march -- and the entire practice itself -- with a 1-yard plunge.


I like that

"The offensive unit that enjoyed the most success in the "move-the-ball" drills was once again the Jay Cutler-led third-team offense, which marched to a touchdown against the No. 3 defense"

I read this and even thought about posting it but I didn't I figured it would draw flack. Anyway, its encouraging because it showing that Cutler is picking up the offense. So nay sayer are going to chime in "well its against the thrid string defense" which is true. But nevertheless Jay is making progress and that's a good for the team.

Disclaimer: The above comments in no way shape or form advocate Cutler starting by week three of the season. Sorry Mntman I just don't see it happening.

[tnedator]

Did Cobbs look any better today?

[Kaylore]

Did Cobbs look any better today?
Sort of. He was the best at picking up some blitzes. You know who looked better? Tatum Bell. He made some decent cutbacks, and was running well until he coughed up the ball at the goalline.

[Inkana7]

From the Orange Mane reports:

NOT TOO HOT

Cobbs - He fumbled a couple times (Tatum did once too). He still hasnt shown anything out there.

[vandyman53]

Shortly it will be Cutler running touchdown drives with the 2nd team. I don't think there's much doubt about that anymore.

[watchthemiddle]

Shortly it will be Cutler running touchdown drives with the 2nd team. I don't think there's much doubt about that anymore.


Your probably right...especially since he has had ONE good drive.... :goofy:

:coffee:

[TXBRONC]

Your probably right...especially since he has had ONE good drive.... :goofy:

:coffee:

Did he do the samething yesterday as well?

[vandyman53]

Your probably right...especially since he has had ONE good drive.... :goofy:

:coffee:

NO, actually that was #2 today. If your trying to compare Bradlee Van Pelt to Jay Cutler...there is really none. Except they both try and work hard. One just has the tools and the other one doesn't.

[SM19]

I read this and even thought about posting it but I didn't I figured it would draw flack. Anyway, its encouraging because it showing that Cutler is picking up the offense. So nay sayer are going to chime in "well its against the thrid string defense" which is true. But nevertheless Jay is making progress and that's a good for the team. [/B]

The real good news is that if he can move the ball against our third-string defense, he's already ready to play against the Raiders! :P

[TXBRONC]

The real good news is that if he can move the ball against our third-string defense, he's already ready to play against the Raiders! :P

Lol. But don't tell WTM he'll get upset. :D

[cutlerfan]

He was a large reason that it worked. Made good decisions and he is thinking less and less and just playing, though I gotta say they let him have a freebie when Partick Chukwurah tagged him just before he threw the ball on a rollout. Should have been a sack.


I like what Jay said yesterday.

"In 11-on-11, I was able to just drop back, have some fun and play football," Cutler said

When he gets the system he is going to shine.

Kaylore - If you are at camp I would love to hear your perspective.

[cutlerfan]

Your probably right...especially since he has had ONE good drive.... :goofy:

:coffee:

I am being nice but Jay has had two TD drives in two days. That is good. :beer:

[watchthemiddle]

NO, actually that was #2 today. If your trying to compare Bradlee Van Pelt to Jay Cutler...there is really none. Except they both try and work hard. One just has the tools and the other one doesn't.


:confused:


Who did that??

:confused:

[AZ Snake Fan]

He was a large reason that it worked. Made good decisions and he is thinking less and less and just playing, though I gotta say they let him have a freebie when Partick Chukwurah tagged him just before he threw the ball on a rollout. Should have been a sack.

--- Good thing that they are playing tag !

--- I would hate for Chucky to sack Jay --- :ugh:



.

[cutlerfan]

:confused:


Who did that??

:confused:


I do feel sorry for BVP. I know he is really working hard and is feeling the pressure. Jay is not going to get any kind of free pass. He will have to earn it.

Like the old saying goes it is not personal just business.

[dogfish]

Your probably right...especially since he has had ONE good drive.... :goofy:

:coffee:



many more to come buddy!

:beer:


stay tuned. . . . .

[watchthemiddle]

I do feel sorry for BVP. I know he is really working hard and is feeling the pressure. Jay is not going to get any kind of free pass. He will have to earn it.

Like the old saying goes it is not personal just business.


You've lost me with the BVP comments... :confused:

many more to come buddy!




stay tuned. . . . .

I'll toast to that... :beer:

:D

[MileHighMagic07]

here's a comment...

BVP SUCKS! plays like a guy they picked up off the streets who drops back, and panicks and starts running like maniac.... what a joke... should be carrying water bottles to the team in between timeouts, I don't know what Shanny is thinking with that bozo on the team.

on a brighter note...

gO Cutler!!!!

[broncos_mtnman]

The offensive unit that enjoyed the most success in the "move-the-ball" drills was once again the Jay Cutler-led third-team offense, which marched to a touchdown against the No. 3 defense. The drive opened with what first appeared to be a 70-yard swing pass touchdown from Cutler to Brandon Miree, but the play was brought back to the offense's 37-yard-line for a 7-yard gain. (From this reporter's eyes, Miree's foot appeared to hit the sideline at around that spot.) That didn't faze the offense, which would convert four consecutive third downs. Cedric Cobbs converted two via a 4-yard third-and-1 run and a 10-yard catch-and-run on third-and-10. The others came via offsides and pass-interference penalties. Mike Bell concluded the march -- and the entire practice itself -- with a 1-yard plunge.


I like that

"The offensive unit that enjoyed the most success in the "move-the-ball" drills was once again the Jay Cutler-led third-team offense, which marched to a touchdown against the No. 3 defense"

Great to hear!!

Jay's days on the third team are quickly coming to an end.

Look out Jake.... LOL!!

:beer:

[MileHighMagic07]

Great to hear!!

Jay's days on the third team are quickly coming to an end.

Look out Jake.... LOL!!

:beer:

week 8 week 8 :beer:

[broncos_mtnman]

week 8 week 8 :beer:

I'm hoping for week 3... :D :beer:

[Sam24]

People keep saying "its only 2 touchdown drive" but seriously for a rookie QB to even make one TD drive in Mike Shanahans system is very impressive.
You couldnt ask for anymore!
Jay said he is "having fun and getting to play some football", that statement alone shows me that he is going to be something special on this team!

[watchthemiddle]

People keep saying "its only 2 touchdown drive" but seriously for a rookie QB to even make one TD drive in Mike Shanahans system is very impressive.
You couldnt ask for anymore!
Jay said he is "having fun and getting to play some football", that statement alone shows me that he is going to be something special on this team!


Well I hope all the players on the team are making that statement.

Go Jay Go!!!!

:coffee:

[Sam24]

Well I hope all the players on the team are making that statement.

Go Jay Go!!!!

:coffee:
What is your beef with Cutler?

[watchthemiddle]

What is your beef with Cutler?


WHo said I had a beef??

[tnedator]

I'm hoping for week 3... :D :beer:

Still fail to understand how you would want the starting QB replaced by a rookie by week 3...

[Sam24]

WHo said I had a beef??
I knew that would be your response. :coffee:

[Krugan]

Is this really something to be excited about? After all it was the third team defense.

Does this shows Cutlers ability or the lack of quality third string D players?

[JRWIZ]

Lets just say some of us want to see him perform against a real defense not made up of folks that just may not be in football six weeks from now. Before that is we anoint him the second coming of Elway.

Be excited if you wish, but don't expect everyone to do back flips like some are. Just don't condemn those that are not.

[TXBRONC]

Lets just say some of us want to see him perform against a real defense not made up of folks that just may not be in football six weeks from now. Before that is we anoint him the second coming of Elway.

Be excited if you wish, but don't expect everyone to do back flips like some are. Just don't condemn those that are not.


And lets just some of us are glad to see him make progress in camp because that's were it has to start.

Btw name just one poster that has said "he's the second coming of Elway." Just one JR.

[watchthemiddle]

Is this really something to be excited about? After all it was the third team defense.

Does this shows Cutlers ability or the lack of quality third string D players?


Hummmm.... :confused:

TIme will tell.

:coffee:

[JRWIZ]

And lets just some of us are glad to see him make progress in camp because that's were it has to start.

Btw name just one poster that has said "he's the second coming of Elway." Just one JR.

Perhaps no one has outright stated that exact term, but we all know most of the cutler fans are thinking it.

I obviously pressed your hot button again.

[Javalon]

Perhaps no one has outright stated that exact term, but we all know most of the cutler fans are thinking it.

I obviously pressed your hot button again.
JR, I truly doubt most Bronco fans are thinking Cutler is the next Elway. But I would assume most of us are hoping he is. I mean, why wouldn't we?

Being pleased with Cutler performing well, even with and against the third team, does not mean he is being annointed the next Elway just yet. But it is nice to not have him stinking up the joint, wouldn't you say? And it would be easy for any rookie QB to do just that in his first week of camp, even on the third team.

[JRWIZ]

JR, I truly doubt most Bronco fans are thinking Cutler is the next Elway. But I would assume most of us are hoping he is. I mean, why wouldn't we?

Being pleased with Cutler performing well, even with and against the third team, does not mean he is being annointed the next Elway just yet. But it is nice to not have him stinking up the joint, wouldn't you say? And it would be easy for any rookie QB to do just that in his first week of camp, even on the third team.


Lets not be naive here, most of the cutler fans are drooling at the prospect.

I remain guarded that he will be the franchise QB that a few so desperately dream he will be. History has shown that many and chosen and few if any each year make it as such.

If he does indeed become that guy all the better. But I have seen Mikey's history/ record in the first day drafts and remain at best unconvinced he knows what he is doing.

While he might have turned the corner last year with the group of DB/KRs he got on the first the majority of his #1's have not been spectacular

[GuitarJ]

Lets just say some of us want to see him perform against a real defense not made up of folks that just may not be in football six weeks from now. Before that is we anoint him the second coming of Elway.

Be excited if you wish, but don't expect everyone to do back flips like some are. Just don't condemn those that are not.
The only ones getting condemned in this thread are those who are.
:coffee:

[GuitarJ]

Man.....we need some backflip smileys.

[Kaylore]

Wow tough crowd. Your first round pick shows promise and it's met with boooo's. :huh:

[UltimateSoldier]

Wow tough crowd. Your first round pick shows promise and it's met with boooo's. :huh:


Thats the way over here.

[Prodigal19]

Wow tough crowd. Your first round pick shows promise and it's met with boooo's. :huh:
broncomania wouldnt be broncomania if everybody agreed on something. :goofy:

[dogfish]

Wow tough crowd. Your first round pick shows promise and it's met with boooo's. :huh:


if you didn't know, lots of fans over here have personal agendas and axes to grind, and quite frankly i suspect that some would like to see cutler fail because they think that will somehow validate their support of plummer in the face of the criticism that he's taken. . . . . . :coffee:


but don't worry, quite a few of us just want the team to do well, and root for ALL of our players to succeed. . . . . . .

[TXBRONC]

Perhaps no one has outright stated that exact term, but we all know most of the cutler fans are thinking it.

I obviously pressed your hot button again.

Right, when did God give you the ability to read minds?

No you haven't hit my hot button. I wont waist energy doing that.

[TXBRONC]

if you didn't know, lots of fans over here have personal agendas and axes to grind, and quite frankly i suspect that some would like to see cutler fail because they think that will somehow validate their support of plummer in the face of the criticism that he's taken. . . . . . :coffee:


but don't worry, quite a few of us just want the team to do well, and root for ALL of our players to succeed. . . . . . .

It sure comes across that way at times. I would agree that there are some that seem to have personal agendas. I don't think its lots of fans but a select few. ;)

[vandyman53]

Lets just say some of us want to see him perform against a real defense not made up of folks that just may not be in football six weeks from now. Before that is we anoint him the second coming of Elway.

Be excited if you wish, but don't expect everyone to do back flips like some are. Just don't condemn those that are not.

No one is condemning those that are not. Cutler has worked against a mixture of first and second team defense and handled himself quite well. It the pic on the front page is the one talked about that Walker went up and got that Jay supposedly should never have thrown take a close look at it. You will see many of those during his career. Notice the position of the db-back to the ball and short. Jay eats that type of thing up, and is quick to notice and not afraid to toss the ball where only the receiver can go up and get it.

[tnedator]

I remain guarded that he will be the franchise QB that a few so desperately dream he will be. History has shown that many and chosen and few if any each year make it as such.

I think most of us 'dream' that Cutler will become a franchise QB. However, a lot of us realize that they don't come around that often and that it is by no means a given that he will beome one. However, there is no harm in hoping for the best.

[TXBRONC]

No one is condemning those that are not. Cutler has worked against a mixture of first and second team defense and handled himself quite well. It the pic on the front page is the one talked about that Walker went up and got that Jay supposedly should never have thrown take a close look at it. You will see many of those during his career. Notice the position of the db-back to the ball and short. Jay eats that type of thing up, and is quick to notice and not afraid to toss the ball where only the receiver can go up and get it.

There is no doubt Cutler has great arm and I'm interested to see how he turns out as a qb.

[TXBRONC]

I think most of us 'dream' that Cutler will become a franchise QB. However, a lot of us realize that they don't come around that often and that it is by no means a given that he will beome one. However, there is no harm in hoping for the best.

This very true, franchise qb don't come around very often. I don't think JR means to say this, but does sound like he's saying; "Don't ever draft a qb especially in the first round because they might fail." How will you ever know unless you take a chance?

You are absolutely right there is no harm hoping for the best. I also don't see anything wrong with being pleased that Cutler has taken some steps forward. It doesn't mean he's ready to start or that he's next big. It simply means that we have reason to be hopeful about him.

[tnedator]

You are absolutely right there is no harm hoping for the best. I also don't see anything wrong with being pleased that Cutler has taken some steps forward. It doesn't mean he's ready to start or that he's next big. It simply means that we have reason to be hopeful about him.

Yep. A lot of us Bronco fans became spoiled by Elway. Not only was he one of the greatest ever, he was behind center year in and out and missed very few games. We have not had much of a QB carousel here. Even over the last six years, we have had two starting QB's (not counting the odd injury start), when many teams have had 3, 4 or more starting QB's (whether due to injury or trying to upgrade) during that time.

I think a lot of us hope to get back to the point where we have a guy under center that will be 'the' guy for many years.

[Krugan]

Wow tough crowd. Your first round pick shows promise and it's met with boooo's. :huh:

I dont think anyone is boo'ing, more of a caustiously optimistic, with a twist of reserved.

Im not sure how solid our 3rd team d is, so I cant really be overly happy about 1 aspect without being concerned about the other.

[TXBRONC]

I dont think anyone is boo'ing, more of a caustiously optimistic, with a twist of reserved.

Im not sure how solid our 3rd team d is, so I cant really be overly happy about 1 aspect without being concerned about the other.

It's just a starting point. By no means do I think that Jay picking apart the 3rd string defense means he ready to start. However, it shows progress and that is something to be optimistic about.

[vandyman53]

I dont think anyone is boo'ing, more of a caustiously optimistic, with a twist of reserved.

Im not sure how solid our 3rd team d is, so I cant really be overly happy about 1 aspect without being concerned about the other.

The 3rd team "d" stopped the second team offense on 3 and out. Bradlee went back and sat down.

[jhns]

The 3rd team "d" stopped the second team offense on 3 and out. Bradlee went back and sat down.

That is because Bradlee is not very good. I know he has been getting hype, and he is a crazy runner, but I have never seen much of a passing game out of him since he started playing. Cutler will hopefully be good and most likely by the time the season starts he will be #2 on the depth chart. I would imagine the only thing holding him back right now is he doesn't know much of the playbook. As soon as he learns enough to play full games with he will be the #2 guy easily.

[vandyman53]

That is because Bradlee is not very good. I know he has been getting hype, and he is a crazy runner, but I have never seen much of a passing game out of him since he started playing. Cutler will hopefully be good and most likely by the time the season starts he will be #2 on the depth chart. I would imagine the only thing holding him back right now is he doesn't know much of the playbook. As soon as he learns enough to play full games with he will be the #2 guy easily.

I personally think he was being hyped up because Shanny was thinking he could get a little something for him. I think it'll be the last cut before whether he decides to keep 2 or 3 quarterbacks. It all depends on how quick Cutler learns. Knowing Jay Cutler it won't take him long. He probably walks around with the playbook stuck out in front of his eyes, and of course on Sunday mornings :coffee:

[BayAreaBronco]

It's just a starting point. By no means do I think that Jay picking apart the 3rd string defense means he ready to start. However, it shows progress and that is something to be optimistic about.

Very true. Progress is progress. I like hearing about good things our rookies (or all of our players) are doing during practices. We look forward to the season and hope that each player can come out of camp better than they were before camp started.

[Javalon]

Lets not be naive here, most of the cutler fans are drooling at the prospect.
You'll just have to pardon my naivety, JR. I always assumed that most of the fans here are Bronco fans.

But on the slim chance that I'm correct, most Bronco fans aren't convinced Cutler is the next Elway. Rather, we hope he's our next franchise-caliber QB that can somehow accomplish many of his own great feats over the next 10 - 15 years.

Bronco fans vs. Cutler fans. Hopes vs. expectations. Just because you and Mtnman and whomever are getting kind of bitter over these issues, please don't stereotype the rest of us into the same mold. Most of us hope for the best and are excited by Cutler's potential, but that is not the same as declaring him Elway reincarnate.

[Inkana7]

In the 90's it was darn near impossible to draft a Franchise QB in the first round, however, as of late, a 1st Round QB has a very good chance of becoming a Franchise QB. In the past few years, Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Michael Vick, David Carr, Byron Leftwich(Well, jury's still out on him), Eli Manning and Chad Pennington have all been drafted in the 1st round of the Draft(since 2000) Only two QBs taken in the 1st Round aren't considered Franchise QBs, Rex Grossman and Patrick Ramsey. It should be mentioned that Drew Brees was the 1st pick in the second round of the 2001 draft.

[GuitarJ]

if you didn't know, lots of fans over here have personal agendas and axes to grind, and quite frankly i suspect that some would like to see cutler fail because they think that will somehow validate their support of plummer in the face of the criticism that he's taken. . . . . . :coffee:


but don't worry, quite a few of us just want the team to do well, and root for ALL of our players to succeed. . . . . . .
Hey! I can grind an axe once in a while.......that would be a pick grinding across guitar strings. :D

I am rooting for all the Broncos, and I will get excited the prospects of the future, and am thankful for our coaching staff and their decisions.

[cutlerfan]

It's just a starting point. By no means do I think that Jay picking apart the 3rd string defense means he ready to start. However, it shows progress and that is something to be optimistic about.


I agree with TXBRONC statement!

I do not agree Jay will start by early this year and probably not this year and that is ok. Jake is a very good QB and it is really not realistic to think of a rookie to come in and take over a pro bowl QB their first year. I am just happy that Jay is coming in and making progress. I know some of the Denver fans are really not sure about Cutler and that is cool. I, like Vandyman53 have watched Jay here at Vanderbilt and watched his maturation. I KNOW that Jay is good because I have watched him for four years! That is why I am excited. This has nothing to do with BVP or Jake Plummer. I have no beef with either of them.

[TXBRONC]

You'll just have to pardon my naivety, JR. I always assumed that most of the fans here are Bronco fans.

But on the slim chance that I'm correct, most Bronco fans aren't convinced Cutler is the next Elway. Rather, we hope he's our next franchise-caliber QB that can somehow accomplish many of his own great feats over the next 10 - 15 years.

Bronco fans vs. Cutler fans. Hopes vs. expectations. Just because you and Mtnman and whomever are getting kind of bitter over these issues, please don't stereotype the rest of us into the same mold. Most of us hope for the best and are excited by Cutler's potential, but that is not the same as declaring him Elway reincarnate.

Well said Jav even though you might be naive. ;) I believe the same thing. Most are Bronco fans not just the fan of a particular player(s). I have not found myself in need of bid because I soil my clothes with drool.

When we drafted Cutler I had a hard time being upset with it because I saw us possibly have rework the offense around sometime in the nearby future. But by know means have already annoited him the next Elway, I want see what he can before I go that far.

[TXBRONC]

I agree with TXBRONC statement!

I do not agree Jay will start by early this year and probably not this year and that is ok. Jake is a very good QB and it is really not realistic to think of a rookie to come in and take over a pro bowl QB their first year. I am just happy that Jay is coming in and making progress. I know some of the Denver fans are really not sure about Cutler and that is cool. I, like Vandyman53 have watched Jay here at Vanderbilt and watched his maturation. I KNOW that Jay is good because I have watched him for four years! That is why I am excited. This has nothing to do with BVP or Jake Plummer. I have no beef with either of them.

Exactly, there is nothing to be ashamed of for being encouarged by Cutler's progress. It doesn't you're going say start Jay by week 3. For me and assuming for you and Vandy it means I'm glad he making progress nothing more nothing less.

[tnedator]

I posted the following questions over at Mane:

I have a couple questions:



What is a 'move the ball' drill?
Mike Bell sounds impressive and as you guys have said, should at least be our short yardage back. I know this is putting you on the spot after only four practices, but if you had to predict now, what would our RB situation look like for the opener against St. Louis?
Can you give us some perspective on Cutler. You guys say he is getting better each practice, but how much. What I mean is, based on what you have seen, if Plummer went down with an injury in the first or second week, would we win with Cutler?


This was the response from SoCalBronco, one of the guys that has been attending traiining camp and writing the reports that Dream has been posting here.

Move the ball is like as if it is a drive itself.

I dont know what the RB situation is like in the coaches eyes, but if I were to rank them purely on merit, it would go:

1. M. Bell
2. T. Bell
3. Dayne
4. Cobbs

Cutler is just as good as Plummer right now in my opinion. He has been very consistent the last few days and does not make many mistakes. On Saturday in particular he was outstanding. He's still learning, but I dont really think there is a gap between him and Plummer at all based on what I have seen. He has become proficient much quicker than I thought.

Here is a link to the thread (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1205191&postcount=64)

[TXBRONC]

I posted the following questions over at Mane:

I have a couple questions:



What is a 'move the ball' drill?
Mike Bell sounds impressive and as you guys have said, should at least be our short yardage back. I know this is putting you on the spot after only four practices, but if you had to predict now, what would our RB situation look like for the opener against St. Louis?
Can you give us some perspective on Cutler. You guys say he is getting better each practice, but how much. What I mean is, based on what you have seen, if Plummer went down with an injury in the first or second week, would we win with Cutler?


This was the response from SoCalBronco, one of the guys that has been attending traiining camp and writing the reports that Dream has been posting here.

Move the ball is like as if it is a drive itself.

I dont know what the RB situation is like in the coaches eyes, but if I were to rank them purely on merit, it would go:

1. M. Bell
2. T. Bell
3. Dayne
4. Cobbs

Cutler is just as good as Plummer right now in my opinion. He has been very consistent the last few days and does not make many mistakes. On Saturday in particular he was outstanding. He's still learning, but I dont really think there is a gap between him and Plummer at all based on what I have seen. He has become proficient much quicker than I thought.

Here is a link to the thread (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1205191&postcount=64)

Now youwent and did it. JR will be in shortly and well I you take from there what's going to happen. ;)

[tnedator]

Now youwent and did it. JR will be in shortly and well I you take from there what's going to happen. ;)

FWIW: Kaylore chimed in and said that Jay has more raw talent, but he doesn't think Jay is as polished as Jake right now. However, he is happy with how he is progressing and thinks he will be the start in '07 based on what he has seen in camp.

Apparently the Mane has blown a gasket, so I can't get back on to see exactly what Kaylore said, but that is close.

[TXBRONC]

FWIW: Kaylore chimed in and said that Jay has more raw talent, but he doesn't think Jay is as polished as Jake right now. However, he is happy with how he is progressing and thinks he will be the start in '07 based on what he has seen in camp.

Apparently the Mane has blown a gasket, so I can't get back on to see exactly what Kaylore said, but that is close.

I appreciate you bring us his commentary.:salute:

[vandyman53]

I agree with TXBRONC statement!

I do not agree Jay will start by early this year and probably not this year and that is ok. Jake is a very good QB and it is really not realistic to think of a rookie to come in and take over a pro bowl QB their first year. I am just happy that Jay is coming in and making progress. I know some of the Denver fans are really not sure about Cutler and that is cool. I, like Vandyman53 have watched Jay here at Vanderbilt and watched his maturation. I KNOW that Jay is good because I have watched him for four years! That is why I am excited. This has nothing to do with BVP or Jake Plummer. I have no beef with either of them.

Hey, Cutlerfan leave me out of this. I want JC by game 3!!!, lol.

In reality as Cutlerfan said we have followed the career of Jay Cutler. Yes, we are following him, but have become Bronco fans because that is where Jay has come to roost.

One must understand that Jay Cutler saved a program that was struggling to say the least. We want him to do well so high schoolers can see that he went to Vandy and see that if he did it there that they could also.

In the previous two years Vandy had signed exactly 2 three star high schoolers each year. The rest were two star. This year the total signed of 3 star is up to 8 which is quite a leap for Vandy.

We want Jay to do well, and if Jay does well so do the Broncos. I already have my #6 jersey and when the Broncos show up in Nashville in a couple of years I will have it on rooting for the Broncos. That would be an interesting day in Nashville. I would imagine several thousand #6 Bronco jerseys would be in LP field.

[broncos_mtnman]

Wow tough crowd. Your first round pick shows promise and it's met with boooo's. :huh:

Only with the few who are terrified that their beloved Jake is about to be replaced.

I'm stoked!!

:beer:

[TXBRONC]

Only with the few who are terrified that their beloved Jake is about to be replaced.

I'm stoked!!

:beer:

Edit: Imo one to two years is most likely. But it wont be by the 3rd week under most circumstances.

[Javalon]

Possibly in two to three years.
While I'm not as stoked as Mtnman, I would say one year at the most before Jay gets a real shot to win the job. Of course, Jake isn't going to just concede. Next year should be an exciting training camp, with tons of fiery debate over who should be the starter.

[TXBRONC]

While I'm not as stoked as Mtnman, I would say one year at the most before Jay gets a real shot to win the job. Of course, Jake isn't going to just concede. Next year should be an exciting training camp, with tons of fiery debate over who should be the starter.

Shoot. I went back and changed the orignal because wasn't satisfied with what I said. Sorry Jav.

Anyway I argee with your statement.

[Inkana7]

Only with the few who are terrified that their beloved Jake is about to be replaced.

I'm stoked!!

:beer:
I'm incredibly impressed with Jay, and even though I'll probably be branded a "Jakester" for this, I really don't think he has any chance of starting this season. Somebody on the Mane pointed out that if you throw a QB into the fire too early, it leads to him developing bad habits that will plauge him for the rest of his career. Jake is a good example of this.

Basically, I'm echoing what everybody else is saying, Take the Carson Palmer way, let Jay sit and learn the offense until he's completely comfortable with it, then unleash him upon the leauge. After all, even God, aka John Elway, has admitted he would have loved to have sat out his first few years.

[cutlerfan]

Hey, Cutlerfan leave me out of this. I want JC by game 3!!!, lol.

In reality as Cutlerfan said we have followed the career of Jay Cutler. Yes, we are following him, but have become Bronco fans because that is where Jay has come to roost.

One must understand that Jay Cutler saved a program that was struggling to say the least. We want him to do well so high schoolers can see that he went to Vandy and see that if he did it there that they could also.

In the previous two years Vandy had signed exactly 2 three star high schoolers each year. The rest were two star. This year the total signed of 3 star is up to 8 which is quite a leap for Vandy.

We want Jay to do well, and if Jay does well so do the Broncos. I already have my #6 jersey and when the Broncos show up in Nashville in a couple of years I will have it on rooting for the Broncos. That would be an interesting day in Nashville. I would imagine several thousand #6 Bronco jerseys would be in LP field.

I know what you mean. I wish the Titans/Bronco's game would have been at LP Field. I too would have my Cutler jersey on.

I can't wait until preseason. Do you think the Commodore Club will be showing the Detroit Denver game on 8-11? I am going to be there!

[broncos_mtnman]

Still fail to understand how you would want the starting QB replaced by a rookie by week 3...

Because the rookie has more talent.... :duh:

[Inkana7]

Because the rookie has more talent.... :duh:
Talent? Hell yes. Experience? Familiarity with the playbook? His recievers? No. One year, Mtn_Man, one season and your boy will be behind center shredding defenses.

[SM19]

Btw name just one poster that has said "he's the second coming of Elway." Just one JR.

If he were so inclined, he could do a search and come up with a number of posters who've said this. I remember seeing quite a lot of that kind of talk after the draft.

[SM19]

Because the rookie has more talent.... :duh:

Ah, mtnman, you've not changed in the least since I was last on these boards. Making unprovable statements as though they're obvious facts is fun, isn't it?

[GuitarJ]

Cutler is just as good as Plummer right now in my opinion. He has been very consistent the last few days and does not make many mistakes. On Saturday in particular he was outstanding. He's still learning, but I dont really think there is a gap between him and Plummer at all based on what I have seen. He has become proficient much quicker than I thought.

Here is a link to the thread (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1205191&postcount=64)
Hmmm.
If anything, he keeps it up, and he will make a case for 2nd string, and second stringers are 1 play away from starting.
I dont know much about this Preston Parsons but it sounds like BVP doesnt have enough arm to run with Jay. I like our chances with Jay if Jake was injured.

[Javalon]

Hmmm.
If anything, he keeps it up, and he will make a case for 2nd string, and second stringers are 1 play away from starting.
I dont know much about this Preston Parsons but it sounds like BVP doesnt have enough arm to run with Jay. I like our chances with Jay if Jake was injured.
I agree. Cutler shouldn't be #1 yet. But it does seem more and more likely that he's fit for the #2 job already.

Although, since I will defend Jake's starting job because we're only 5 days into camp, I guess I should give BVP the same benefit of the doubt. Realistically, Shanny should probably wait until after the first preseason game before making any switch. Both Van Pelt and Cutler should see a lot of playing time that game and we can compare them better against defenses that actually want to inflict some bruises.

(The main difference being that I've never really been happy with BVP as our backup.)

[TXBRONC]

If he were so inclined, he could do a search and come up with a number of posters who've said this. I remember seeing quite a lot of that kind of talk after the draft.


Ok but honestly SM I haven't anyone make that comparison.

[broncos_mtnman]

Ok but honestly SM I haven't anyone make that comparison.

There have been comparisons about some of his attributes.

The draft talk was that he had an arm like Favre and the mobility of an Elway.

However, no one has made a comment like JRs.


V- check out the new sig -V

[TXBRONC]

There have been comparisons about some of his attributes.

The draft talk was that he had an arm like Favre and the mobility of an Elway.

However, no one has made a comment like JRs.


V- check out the new sig -V

Yes I remember that but imo that's still not exactly the same thing.

[GuitarJ]

I agree. Cutler shouldn't be #1 yet. But it does seem more and more likely that he's fit for the #2 job already.

Although, since I will defend Jake's starting job because we're only 5 days into camp, I guess I should give BVP the same benefit of the doubt. Realistically, Shanny should probably wait until after the first preseason game before making any switch. Both Van Pelt and Cutler should see a lot of playing time that game and we can compare them better against defenses that actually want to inflict some bruises.

(The main difference being that I've never really been happy with BVP as our backup.)
I cant wait to see them play. I agree that we will continue to see Jay with the 3rd team until he is evaluated in real game action. I feel that he will continue to improve, if he does, he will easily start the season backing Jake.

[TXBRONC]

I agree. Cutler shouldn't be #1 yet. But it does seem more and more likely that he's fit for the #2 job already.

Although, since I will defend Jake's starting job because we're only 5 days into camp, I guess I should give BVP the same benefit of the doubt. Realistically, Shanny should probably wait until after the first preseason game before making any switch. Both Van Pelt and Cutler should see a lot of playing time that game and we can compare them better against defenses that actually want to inflict some bruises.

(The main difference being that I've never really been happy with BVP as our backup.)

I remember not to long ago Jared had mentioned something to this effect. He said something to the effect he could see Cutler moving up to the #2 slot by at some point in the season. If keeps making progress like this he could very easily be the number two by the end of preseason.

[JRWIZ]

No one is condemning those that are not. Cutler has worked against a mixture of first and second team defense and handled himself quite well. It the pic on the front page is the one talked about that Walker went up and got that Jay supposedly should never have thrown take a close look at it. You will see many of those during his career. Notice the position of the db-back to the ball and short. Jay eats that type of thing up, and is quick to notice and not afraid to toss the ball where only the receiver can go up and get it.

Now perhaps this has been commented on already but I read them in order so bear with me.

If he continues to do this ion the NFL, the real DB's will most likely make him pay for it. They do it to Farve and did it to Elway, Marino and many other NFL QB's. This is not college any longer.

Now perhaps he can do stuff that mere mortals can't. But he would be the first to do so.

[JRWIZ]

I think most of us 'dream' that Cutler will become a franchise QB. However, a lot of us realize that they don't come around that often and that it is by no means a given that he will beome one. However, there is no harm in hoping for the best.

I agree but still will wait till he has played against real DB's and against a real DC that can take any QB apart.

[Javalon]

Now perhaps this has been commented on already but I read them in order so bear with me.

If he continues to do this ion the NFL, the real DB's will most likely make him pay for it. They do it to Farve and did it to Elway, Marino and many other NFL QB's. This is not college any longer.

Now perhaps he can do stuff that mere mortals can't. But he would be the first to do so.
I know this wasn't what you intended but it sure sounded like you just stated how Cutler wouldn't want to be as bad as the likes of Farve, Elway and Marino. :D


That sure would suck. ;)

[TXBRONC]

Now perhaps this has been commented on already but I read them in order so bear with me.

If he continues to do this ion the NFL, the real DB's will most likely make him pay for it. They do it to Farve and did it to Elway, Marino and many other NFL QB's. This is not college any longer.

Now perhaps he can do stuff that mere mortals can't. But he would be the first to do so.

Besides being sarcastic do you have a point?

Qbs like Farve, Elway and Marino could get away doing things that most qbs couldn't. I would suppose if Jay can do the same kind of thing that would put him in pretty good company. Again JR no one is saying he's super human.

I maybe wrong about this and I hope I am, but I have a hunch that any mistake Jay makes will end being 1000 times worse than any mistake that Jake will make.

[Pandapeep]

I honestly want to see Jay play. Yep. I really do. In week 14, 15, or 16 after we locked up the first round bye and are resting starters.