Pryce takes swipe at Broncos

[Chronic_Toker]

Saw a reference to this in another thread, so I looked it up...pretty interesting.

Article (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-08-01-notes_x.htm)

Defensive end Trevor Pryce, who played nine seasons with the Denver Broncos before being released during the offseason, took swipes at his former club after practice Tuesday with the Baltimore Ravens.
"They're actually putting me in positions where you can try to make a play instead of the blocking dummies that the D-line ... became last year for Denver," Pryce said.

He also said, "For the first time in a long time, I think I'm happy to be playing football."

He said one reason for that was the relationship between the Ravens players and coaches. "I came from something that could get pretty hairy at times ... even with all the winning," he said. "Just the way the coaches and everybody is the same here. It's not an us-vs.-them kind of mentality ... where you know if you do something wrong, you know it's going to be hell to pay no matter what it was. You took a wrong step, forget missing a tackle. ... The coaches (in Baltimore) I think want to help you. They feel part of it, too."

[Bronco-Holic]

He is the Ravens problem now.

Bon Voyage.

[ReleaseTheBeast7]

2 superbowl rings... And he's acting like an ass... Eh, whatever

[hilife]

that's messed up. Even if you didn't like the team you not suppose to put them out like that. It's an unwriten rule.

[bronx_2003]

Saw a reference to this in another thread, so I looked it up...pretty interesting.

Article (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-08-01-notes_x.htm)

Defensive end Trevor Pryce, who played nine seasons with the Denver Broncos before being released during the offseason, took swipes at his former club after practice Tuesday with the Baltimore Ravens.
"They're actually putting me in positions where you can try to make a play instead of the blocking dummies that the D-line ... became last year for Denver," Pryce said.

He also said, "For the first time in a long time, I think I'm happy to be playing football."

He said one reason for that was the relationship between the Ravens players and coaches. "I came from something that could get pretty hairy at times ... even with all the winning," he said. "Just the way the coaches and everybody is the same here. It's not an us-vs.-them kind of mentality ... where you know if you do something wrong, you know it's going to be hell to pay no matter what it was. You took a wrong step, forget missing a tackle. ... The coaches (in Baltimore) I think want to help you. They feel part of it, too."

shanny is liked by the players but more importantly he is respected. he is the leader of this football team and has to act like it. he NEEDS to be tough if a player makes a mistake, thats why our team has disipline and is tough.....and wins so many games.

this is a SERIOUS ball club who wants to win and shanny always gives us a chance to do that. we prepare for success and for the superbowl.

when i see a HC who is too friendly with his players he looks WEAK and normally is at a LOSING franchise as they have no direction. NORV TURNER was a great example at the raiders. you think his players feared or respected him?

[bronx_2003]

pryce was finished 2-3 years ago.......he is no longer our problem.

[GIVEME6]

Saw a reference to this in another thread, so I looked it up...pretty interesting.

Article (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-08-01-notes_x.htm)

Defensive end Trevor Pryce, who played nine seasons with the Denver Broncos before being released during the offseason, took swipes at his former club after practice Tuesday with the Baltimore Ravens.
"They're actually putting me in positions where you can try to make a play instead of the blocking dummies that the D-line ... became last year for Denver," Pryce said.

He also said, "For the first time in a long time, I think I'm happy to be playing football."

He said one reason for that was the relationship between the Ravens players and coaches. "I came from something that could get pretty hairy at times ... even with all the winning," he said. "Just the way the coaches and everybody is the same here. It's not an us-vs.-them kind of mentality ... where you know if you do something wrong, you know it's going to be hell to pay no matter what it was. You took a wrong step, forget missing a tackle. ... The coaches (in Baltimore) I think want to help you. They feel part of it, too."


His comments in that first paragraph are spot on. The D-line was asked to do that alot last year, because we blitzed so much. Our D-line weren't really asked to do a whole lot sometimes but take up blockers so our LBs/S could get through. The other part of this story is sour grapes.

[y2cragie]

the guy earns millions, and his feelings get hurt for being yelled at for not doing his job right? Oh well, enjoy mediocrity in Baltimore Trevor. :duh:

[JRWIZ]

He whined all the way to the bank last year to the tune of some $8 mil. Poor darling, this clown has not had a real meaningful year since he got his new contract. Every other year or less Mikey was on his case about earning his money.

Maybe he thinks that was not justified. I suspect that next year he will feel the same way about his new coach after they find out the misspelled his name it should be $PRICE$.

[BroncoStampede]

Why is he this bitter about it? He was overpaid, and wouldnt take a paycut after his spinal injury and lack of production.

He did the easy thing to do, blame somebody else. The problem I have with it is he is bad mouthing a team that earned him 2 superbowl rings, and gave him more than fair compensation.

[Almost Heaven]

He wasn't a Denver type a guy. I don't think he spent alot of time in the weight room. He was one of those guys that got by on alot of talent but had no heart. I haven't liked him since we moved him from the middle.

[AdamantiumBronco]

I've had it with Trevor, **** him.

[anton...]

He whined all the way to the bank last year to the tune of some $8 mil. Poor darling, this clown has not had a real meaningful year since he got his new contract. Every other year or less Mikey was on his case about earning his money.

Maybe he thinks that was not justified. I suspect that next year he will feel the same way about his new coach after they find out the misspelled his name it should be $PRICE$.

i think i jsut gave you another bar with that cp...

but maybe im wrong...

and yeah...

he really hasnt performed in many nyears...

im glad we got rid of him...

the last few years he was really only there because of his name and past deeds...

im glad we got crazy elvis...

i think he is gonna be awesome!!!

:salute:

[SM19]

Talk all about his high salary and lack of production all you want, he's right about Denver's system being one in which it sucks to be a defensive end. I can see why he wasn't happy.

[PsychoChicken]

Talk all about his high salary and lack of production all you want, he's right about Denver's system being one in which it sucks to be a defensive end. I can see why he wasn't happy.Exactly! I'm siding with Pryce on this one. Every word he said was true. Blame Coyer and his linebacker fetish.

[Skywalker]

Exactly! I'm siding with Pryce on this one. Every word he said was true. Blame Coyer and his linebacker fetish.
we should have gotten rid of Coyer instead of Pryce...:mad:

[tpryce93]

we should have gotten rid of Coyer instead of Pryce...:mad:
I agree. and i wouldn't say he was dissing the broncos as an organization i think he's just dissing coyer.

[Pandapeep]

See, I think the first part is right. Our D-line scheme last sucked. But that is no reason to rip on the coaching staff. Especially his whine about getting a hard time for mistakes. I'm sorry, football is a tough sport and if you f up, you should expect to get yelled at.

[watchthemiddle]

Saw a reference to this in another thread, so I looked it up...pretty interesting.

Article (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-08-01-notes_x.htm)

Defensive end Trevor Pryce, who played nine seasons with the Denver Broncos before being released during the offseason, took swipes at his former club after practice Tuesday with the Baltimore Ravens.
"They're actually putting me in positions where you can try to make a play instead of the blocking dummies that the D-line ... became last year for Denver," Pryce said.

He also said, "For the first time in a long time, I think I'm happy to be playing football."

He said one reason for that was the relationship between the Ravens players and coaches. "I came from something that could get pretty hairy at times ... even with all the winning," he said. "Just the way the coaches and everybody is the same here. It's not an us-vs.-them kind of mentality ... where you know if you do something wrong, you know it's going to be hell to pay no matter what it was. You took a wrong step, forget missing a tackle. ... The coaches (in Baltimore) I think want to help you. They feel part of it, too."

Blah blah blah...can anyone say BITTER!!!!!

Players say stuff like this all the time......the grass is always greener on the other side.

Look at what the Browncos said when they came over from Cleveland...same type of stuff about Cleveland and very very happy to be in Denver. Saurbrun said the same thing....players just do this when THEY feel they were treated bad.

WHo cares!! See you October 9th Trevor.

:coffee:

[bleedbluorange]

Trevor is telling the truth in regards to our D line. He has a right to his opinion. Just as the Broncos have a right to theirs.

[JRWIZ]

This clown has been eating cap space since 2002, to the tune of $6-9 mill a year. About $1.5 mil per sack, talk about who was or not producing.

If he did not like what was going on since then, instead of just taking his money to the bank he should have produced or ask to be traded.

He took the weasel way out and did not earn his money the old fashioned way by producing.

[Ravage!!!]

Saw a reference to this in another thread, so I looked it up...pretty interesting.

Article (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-08-01-notes_x.htm)

Defensive end Trevor Pryce, who played nine seasons with the Denver Broncos before being released during the offseason, took swipes at his former club after practice Tuesday with the Baltimore Ravens.
"They're actually putting me in positions where you can try to make a play instead of the blocking dummies that the D-line ... became last year for Denver," Pryce said.

He also said, "For the first time in a long time, I think I'm happy to be playing football."

He said one reason for that was the relationship between the Ravens players and coaches. "I came from something that could get pretty hairy at times ... even with all the winning," he said. "Just the way the coaches and everybody is the same here. It's not an us-vs.-them kind of mentality ... where you know if you do something wrong, you know it's going to be hell to pay no matter what it was. You took a wrong step, forget missing a tackle. ... The coaches (in Baltimore) I think want to help you. They feel part of it, too."

apparently he likes to be a bit more laxed.... that must be why Billick's job is in jeapordy due to all the losing, and Shanahan's isn't.

[Ravage!!!]

This clown has been eating cap space since 2002, to the tune of $6-9 mill a year. About $1.5 mil per sack, talk about who was or not producing.

If he did not like what was going on since then, instead of just taking his money to the bank he should have produced or ask to be traded.

He took the weasel way out and did not earn his money the old fashioned way by producing.

Yet... when guy holds out and asks to be traded, because he isn't happy, you complain about him not showing up for camp.

we'll see how happy Trevor is with all that "good will" between coach and players when they have a losing season. Lets see how thrilled he is for not being corrected when making a mistake, when his team is looking for a new coach next season (I'm guessing the OC becomes the head coach).

Although I do agree that our system was making them take up space last season..... I think he needs to have a bit more class rather than showing his sour apples for being released.

[The|Snake#16]

Yet... when guy holds out and asks to be traded, because he isn't happy, you complain about him not showing up for camp.

we'll see how happy Trevor is with all that "good will" between coach and players when they have a losing season. Lets see how thrilled he is for not being corrected when making a mistake, when his team is looking for a new coach next season (I'm guessing the OC becomes the head coach).

Although I do agree that our system was making them take up space last season..... I think he needs to have a bit more class rather than showing his sour apples for being released.

How the hell could Baltimore's OC become a head coach? Have you seen anything besides Jamal Lewis from the Ravens offense in the past 5 years?

[Born'n'Raised]

Good thing hes not our problem now.

[Dean]

When a player is paid 8.5 million dollars to play, he is expected to play at a very high level. Trevor wasn't playing anywhere close to that level. That means that coaches will become upset. If real life's cause and effect upsets Trevor, then too damn bad.

The defensive line scheme was set up so that the LBs could make plays. . . granted and they did. The scheme was effective in allowing a 14-4 season. It was not perfect but given the personnel (no presently outstanding D-linemen), it worked out better than most NFL defensive schemes.

Was this style of play boring for Trevor- probably. However, he was well compensated for his time. Did he miss getting a high sack total and acclaim by his peers- probably. However, that ceased years before this scheme came into being. Get over it. When Denver tried to get a trade for you during the preseason, no one wanted your production for the money. That might tell you something. :duh:

IMHO Trevor being overpaid and continually underproducing has little to complain about. To be a pro means that you will be paid to do any task that the employer wants done, how he wants it done, and to do it to the best of your ability. Some have difficulty with this 'old school' concept.

Bye Trevor. Glad that you took the time to say good-bye to the Broncos and to thank them for making you a multimillionaire and for the time you had in Denver.

[topscribe]

When a player is paid 8.5 million dollars to play, he is expected to play at a very high level. Trevor wasn't playing anywhere close to that level. That means that coaches will become upset. If real life's cause and effect upsets Trevor, then too damn bad.

The defensive line scheme was set up so that the LBs could make plays. . . granted and they did. The scheme was effective in allowing a 14-4 season. It was not perfect but given the personnel (no presently outstanding D-linemen), it worked out better than most NFL defensive schemes.

Was this style of play boring for Trevor- probably. However, he was well compensated for his time. Did he miss getting a high sack total and acclaim by his peers- probably. However, that ceased years before this scheme came into being. Get over it. When Denver tried to get a trade for you during the preseason, no one wanted your production for the money. That might tell you something. :duh:

IMHO Trevor being overpaid and continually underproducing has little to complain about. To be a pro means that you will be paid to do any task that the employer wants done, how he wants it done, and to do it to the best of your ability. Some have difficulty with this 'old school' concept.

Bye Trevor. Glad that you took the time to say good-bye to the Broncos and to thank them for making you a multimillionaire and for the time you had in Denver.
If I didn't know better, I'd accuse you of reading my mind . . .

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[Ravage!!!]

How the hell could Baltimore's OC become a head coach? Have you seen anything besides Jamal Lewis from the Ravens offense in the past 5 years?

How could Jim Fassel become a head coach? Is that what you just asked me? Jim Fassel the former NFL Coach of the Year, Jim Fassel? The same Jim Fassel that took the Giants to two NFC titles and the Super Bowl (with Kerry Collins at QB), that Jim Fassel? The SAME Jim Fassel that was Elway's tutor and mentor, leading him to both AFC Player of the Year AND NFL MVP, is this the same Jim Fassel you are questioning whether can be a Head Coach in the NFL??

Fassel took over the OC for the Ravens in 2005. Thats how the hell I think the OC for the Baltimore Ravens may very well be their next head coach. :coffee:

[Lorcust]

I live in Baltimore and support the Ravens as my #3 team.

And I can tell you, Baltimore has about had it with him. He's getting his last chance with people praying for hope now that Boller is benched and with some free agency draft moves such as Pryce (not as hated in Baltimore), Ngata and of course, Air McNair.

McNair isn't the Qb he used to be, but he is a hell of a better quarterback and decision maker than Kyle Bumblin' Boller could ever hope to be. Watch the last game he played against Denver to see what I mean. McNair will actually do something with the offense, and maybe Billick can get it done.

The general consensus here is that if Billick does not make the postseason (which I doubt he will, considering the Super Bowl Champions, the Bengals and an improving Browns team are in the same division), then Billick is probably gone. We'll probably send Boller out with him, and likely, they'll reunite somewhere else.

I'm going to visit training camp 3 times over the course of camp in Baltimore, and I'll most be looking forward to seeing Mike Anderson, Jamal Lewis, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs, and Steve McNair. Trevor Pryce I'll like seeing, only because he was a Bronco and used to produce. Hopefully now that he is happy, he can produce for the Ravens, as long as he gets shut out by Foster on the 9th of course.

About Jim Fassel:

The reason the offense isn't great is 2 things:

1). Kyle Boller. You cannot win with Kyle Boller on your team unless you are facing the most dissapointing team in the league (based on recent past standards). That would be the Packers game. A once great franchise, destroyed this year by injuries and Farve looks like he's done. This was the only team the Ravens man handled. Only to come apart two weeks later against the Browns.

2.) Aging offensive line and loss of Alan Ricard. Ogden and Mulitado are the only great blockers on the line, and Ogden is on a decline. Dwight Freeney completely dominated him in the opener and Ogden looked like a confused rookie. Mulitado is good, no complaints about him. Mike Flynn is getting up there but only doing ok, not great, but not horrible. The rest of the line is just.... horrible. Another year older, and they might perform even worse. Alan Ricard (when he was healthy) helped carry Jamal to the second most rushing yards in a season in the history of the NFL. Now with some recurring injuries, he's cut and we have hopefuls to fill the gaps.

Jim Fassel would have some trouble as Billick, the coordinator who set the record for most points in a single season with the Vikings right? Before Culpepper too. Not sure if Moss was there that year or not. The line is the first thing that needs a re do, and Billick is probably, in my mind, a better coordinator than coach.

My guess is a 8-8, 9-7 season. Billick is fired, and Boller is released. A QB or lineman is picked up in the first round to replace McNair and help provide a youth movement. A safety is picked up in the FA to put alongside Reed (we have a 5th rounder and a 6th rounder we released but traded back for penciled in at FS). Jim Fassel will eventually become the new coach. This is Billick's last chance, and then he's gone.

[VADER72]

I've always hated Trevor, even when a Bronco. He talks a good game in the locker room, but I think he's lazy as hell in that position. So glad I don't have to hear his stupid coments after games anymore.

[watchthemiddle]

How could Jim Fassel become a head coach? Is that what you just asked me? Jim Fassel the former NFL Coach of the Year, Jim Fassel? The same Jim Fassel that took the Giants to two NFC titles and the Super Bowl (with Kerry Collins at QB), that Jim Fassel? The SAME Jim Fassel that was Elway's tutor and mentor, leading him to both AFC Player of the Year AND NFL MVP, is this the same Jim Fassel you are questioning whether can be a Head Coach in the NFL??

Fassel took over the OC for the Ravens in 2005. Thats how the hell I think the OC for the Baltimore Ravens may very well be their next head coach. :coffee:


:beer:

Fassel is a very well respected OC and HC around the league.

I wouldn't be surprised to see B-more draft a young QB next year and Fassel develop him. Thats pretty much all that teams has been lacking is a QB and Mcnair can do the job.

That team scares me this season.

[CaseP]

Shanahan didn't seem to mind Trevor running his mouth.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_4133492

There would be another not- so-veiled swipe at Shanahan.

"I came from something that could get pretty hairy at times, even with all the winning," said Pryce, who added that any misstep would tend to draw the wrath of the Denver coach. "You took a wrong step, forget missing a tackle ..."

Responded Shanahan: "That was a compliment to me. I get on him for taking a wrong step? I take that as a compliment."

[rcsodak]

Saw a reference to this in another thread, so I looked it up...pretty interesting.

Article (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-08-01-notes_x.htm)

Defensive end Trevor Pryce, who played nine seasons with the Denver Broncos before being released during the offseason, took swipes at his former club after practice Tuesday with the Baltimore Ravens.
"They're actually putting me in positions where you can try to make a play instead of the blocking dummies that the D-line ... became last year for Denver," Pryce said.

He also said, "For the first time in a long time, I think I'm happy to be playing football."

He said one reason for that was the relationship between the Ravens players and coaches. "I came from something that could get pretty hairy at times ... even with all the winning," he said. "Just the way the coaches and everybody is the same here. It's not an us-vs.-them kind of mentality ... where you know if you do something wrong, you know it's going to be hell to pay no matter what it was. You took a wrong step, forget missing a tackle. ... The coaches (in Baltimore) I think want to help you. They feel part of it, too."
Gee.....

....going from a perennial winner and structured team to a losing team with no structure....



.....what a lucky guy..... :rolleyes:

I hope he has the worst season he's ever had and the crows go winless....

[stnzed]

"I'll take that as a compliment". What did Pryce expect? A coach can say whatever it takes to motivate a player making that much money. I sure hope Trevor didn't get his feelings hurt.

[broncos4ever]

The rule normally is "you don't bite the hand that feeds you". Now I realize that Pryce is not at Denver anymore because Denver decided not to pay him what he was wanting.

Another rule is "don't burn your bridges". There have been several players that left Denver even in contract disputes but did not criticize the organization and actually have come back to Denver and done quite well after they came back. (Sharpe, Gold, and Burns come to mind.) Trevor whether his statements were correct or not decided to focus on the negative about Denver and not the positive.

He did have a lot to be positive about. Did he now enjoy the success of the Super bowls? Did he not get paid and get the best of care when he hurt his back?Did he not play for one of the best organizations in professional football since he was drafted?

Instead Pryce decided to dwell on the negative... Well he will not be one who comes back to Denver with shouts of welcome from the crowd. I am sure he will be booed when he comes back to Invesco field. :eek:

[sendacash]

Trevor was always one of my favorite players but the NFL is a business and there is a salary cap. If you get only 2 sacks in like 2 years and draw 2mil or whatever his salary was then obviously that shiat just dont add up.

[Sam24]

shanny is liked by the players but more importantly he is respected. he is the leader of this football team and has to act like it. he NEEDS to be tough if a player makes a mistake, thats why our team has disipline and is tough.....and wins so many games.

this is a SERIOUS ball club who wants to win and shanny always gives us a chance to do that. we prepare for success and for the superbowl.

when i see a HC who is too friendly with his players he looks WEAK and normally is at a LOSING franchise as they have no direction. NORV TURNER was a great example at the raiders. you think his players feared or respected him?
I agree but a better example is Wade Philippes when he coached here in Denver.