Tank Johnson?

[emac87]

I was just reading this morning on ESPN.com on ScoutsInc that John Clayton (or some other analyst) says its pretty much a sure thing that Tank Johnson's days in Chicago are over. He is a beast on the D line. But would this be a good pickup, with all his off the field troubles?

I would just hate to be a team like the Cowboys where every time you turn on you TV all you hear about is dip**** players like T.O.

[MadMarten]

No way, no how. I don't think anybody in the Bronco's organization wants anything to do with that

[Jared]

No way, no how. I don't think anybody in the Bronco's organization wants anything to do with that

I propose a second of that motion.

All those in favor, say 'aye'.

[Calif. Bronco]

I propose a second of that motion.

All those in favor, say 'aye'.

aye!!!!!!!

[Trench777]

Oh, heck yes, bring Tank Johnson here!!

This is Colorado, baby...we don't have hang-ups with men owning guns here.

Bring him and give him another 6 guns when he crosses the state line!!

Hoo rah!

T777

[emac87]

Oh, heck yes, bring Tank Johnson here!!

This is Colorado, baby...we don't have hang-ups with men owning guns here.

Bring him and give him another 6 guns when he crosses the state line!!

Hoo rah!

T777

Oh man that is some funny stuff!! :D

[jlarsiii]

Shanny has shown in the past that he is willing to give a clean slate to anybody who comes to the organization (Dale Carter ring any bells for you). So with that in mind it wouldn't surprise me if we try to bring Tank here. I am all for giving people a second chance.

However, I think that a number of teams would be interested in his services. Considering what some teams are willing to endure to have a winning squad (see Cincinnati) it may prove difficult if not impossible to actually bring him here.

I have another "troubled" d-linemen that may be available if you want to take a risk on him. Do you guys remember Albert Haynesworth of the Titans (the guy who cleated the dallas player on the head)? He could be available and fill a needed role for the team.

Still, would you want either one considering what they may do to the locker room chemistry, and the wrap sheet of the team?

[Trench777]

Oh man that is some funny stuff!! :D

LOL, thx!

But seriously...WHY wouldn't we want him here? Cause he likes guns? Pfft!

Guy is a serious defensive monster. I'd LOVE to see him in lighter blue and orange!

T777

[emac87]

Shanny has shown in the past that he is willing to give a clean slate to anybody who comes to the organization (Dale Carter ring any bells for you). So with that in mind it wouldn't surprise me if we try to bring Tank here. I am all for giving people a second chance.

However, I think that a number of teams would be interested in his services. Considering what some teams are willing to endure to have a winning squad (see Cincinnati) it may prove difficult if not impossible to actually bring him here.

I have another "troubled" d-linemen that may be available if you want to take a risk on him. Do you guys remember Albert Haynesworth of the Titans (the guy who cleated the dallas player on the head)? He could be available and fill a needed role for the team.

Still, would you want either one considering what they may do to the locker room chemistry, and the wrap sheet of the team?
Good point!! But on the Haynesworth situation, I'm not condoning it, but I just think that was a situation where a person's emotions and frustration got the best of him. He did seem genuinely remorseful after it happened. And usually when athletes apologize publicly for something they've done, it always sounds scripted and just some words they were told to read off of a notecard by their agent or coach

[emac87]

LOL, thx!

But seriously...WHY wouldn't we want him here? Cause he likes guns? Pfft!

Guy is a serious defensive monster. I'd LOVE to see him in lighter blue and orange!

T777
You know what? I agree. I've been saying what a beast that guy is for the last 2 seasons. Look at the guy's name for pete's sake!!! TANK!!! That just sounds like a bad***. Sometimes people need bad things to occur in their life to right the ship. Maybe this will straighten him up

[Jared]

LOL, thx!

But seriously...WHY wouldn't we want him here? Cause he likes guns? Pfft!

Guy is a serious defensive monster. I'd LOVE to see him in lighter blue and orange!

T777


When you add the guns to the marijuana possession charges, the prior weapons without a permit charge, and the fact that he kept both in a house, unlocked, with a 20 month old, you have to wonder about his decision making ability in general. On and off the field.


Hayesworth. I dunno. I'd be leery, but less so than of of Johnson. Only because his problems seem to be controlling on the field intensity. Still would prefer not to have either of them in Denver.

[atl-bronco]

We can revisit this thread Monday after seeing what type of pass rush our D-Line puts on Palmer..... ;)

[lancane]

Oh hell, someone go call Romo to come out from retirement...if we are going with questionable players like Johnson and Haynesworth, we might as well have some roid rage as well...hell the Bolts aren't the only team that can use some roided monsters, Bowlen can even pay for their guns, roids and counseling so that it is all fair in the end!

;)

[RunYouOver]

Absolutely not.

No way.

Never.

[tommy1986]

Yes, he would upgrade arguably our weakest area (DT). Besides, if he doesn't pan out, he can always be cut. Just sign him to a bargain-basement, 1-year type of deal and be done with it.

[emac87]

Oh hell, someone go call Romo to come out from retirement...if we are going with questionable players like Johnson and Haynesworth, we might as well have some roid rage as well...hell the Bolts aren't the only team that can use some roided monsters, Bowlen can even pay for their guns, roids and counseling so that it is all fair in the end!

;)
I see your point, but at least Romo admitted it in the end. Too many athletes these days (Barry Bonds) just deny til they're blue in the face about steroid accusations. But you have to admit that it took a lot of guts to come out and say you knowingly cheated. Especially knowing what it might do to your image

[lancane]

I see your point, but at least Romo admitted it in the end. Too many athletes these days (Barry Bonds) just deny til they're blue in the face about steroid accusations. But you have to admit that it took a lot of guts to come out and say you knowingly cheated. Especially knowing what it might do to your image

Romanowski is one of my favorite players of all time, what he did was wrong and hurt his overall outlook by me and many fans...but my point is the we are not the type of unclassy team that allows a Owens, Merriman or Haynesworth on our roster, if it was a drafted pick...then yes, because they have the opportunity to change, not a free agent with experience, they have tainted pasts that can reflect the team more so then what a rookie did in his past.

[emac87]

Romanowski is one of my favorite players of all time, what he did was wrong and hurt his overall outlook by me and many fans...but my point is the we are not the type of unclassy team that allows a Owens, Merriman or Haynesworth on our roster, if it was a drafted pick...then yes, because they have the opportunity to change, not a free agent with experience, they have tainted pasts that can reflect the team more so then what a rookie did in his past.
It seems like I'm replying to a lot of your posts here. He was one of my favorites too. And I would rather have a classy organization then one that goes out and deals with a punk like TO. I would just hate it, from a fan view point, to turn on the TV every day only to hear about a guy like TO. I agree that Denver doesn't go after problematic players, unless they are in college. But we got Dale Carter some years ago, and didn't he have a drug charge or something? I'm not justifying it, I'm actually agreeing with you. But someone who admitted taking roids is a far better person/athlete than one who denied it or blamed it on some kind of dietary supplement (Merriman)

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

Tank will be a Raider :coffee:

[antiwup]

Tank will be a Raider :coffee:
he did get 120 days in jail today for his violation of his probation. jail time equals bengals or raiders future team mates of tanks?!

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

Yes, he would upgrade arguably our weakest area (DT). Besides, if he doesn't pan out, he can always be cut. Just sign him to a bargain-basement, 1-year type of deal and be done with it.I concur :thumb:

I want Tank Johnson :salute:

[RunYouOver]

No, no no no no no no no NO NO!


120 days in jail....

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

No, no no no no no no no NO NO!


120 days in jail....The guns were legal,its not like he committed a crime with them.

[RunYouOver]

The guns were legal,its not like he committed a crime with them.


That's not the only point though...it's not his first run in with the law. We do NOT need players like that on our team.

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

That's not the only point though...it's not his first run in with the law. We do NOT need players like that on our team.Im confused then what else did he do? :confused:

[BDMuhe]

Why are some so eager not to have a guy here because he has a tainted past? Neither one is a habitual locker room distraction. If we were hurting at linebacker and Merriman was availabe, most Bronco fans (myself included) would salivate at the chance of getting him even though he did use roids. Most people have made poor decisions at one point in their life or another, do you deny them a job because of it?

Both can contribute and make the team better, and as neither of these guys has a habitual problem (as far as we can tell), then their potential as players should be the determining factor.

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

Their is not a perfect person in this world.Every Football Player has faults lol.

Like Tommy1986 said sign him to one year contract,if he dont work out,then cut him,its that simple.I think we should give him a try considering we wont find a better solution any time soon.

[RunYouOver]

Why are some so eager not to have a guy here because he has a tainted past? Neither one is a habitual locker room distraction. If we were hurting at linebacker and Merriman was availabe, most Bronco fans (myself included) would salivate at the chance of getting him even though he did use roids. Most people have made poor decisions at one point in their life or another, do you deny them a job because of it?

Both can contribute and make the team better, and as neither of these guys has a habitual problem (as far as we can tell), then their potential as players should be the determining factor.

I disagree.

Many on hear were QUICK (myself included) to attack him after he was busted, and concluded that they would NEVER want a player like that on our team.

It's impossible to know who roids and who doesn't and who's a good person and who's not, but at least if we KNOW they're a bad person, let's stay away.

I know as fans many of us just want our favorite team to win, but think of the team's reputation, and just think of the team in general.

If you were on the team, would you want your teammate to be someone who's just spent 120 days in jail?

Or someone who's blatantly cheating the game just for personal satisfaction, success, and greed?

[EddieMac]

Romanowski is one of my favorite players of all time, what he did was wrong and hurt his overall outlook by me and many fans...but my point is the we are not the type of unclassy team that allows a Owens, Merriman or Haynesworth on our roster, if it was a drafted pick...then yes, because they have the opportunity to change, not a free agent with experience, they have tainted pasts that can reflect the team more so then what a rookie did in his past.


I like Romo too, great intensity. I read his book and yes he admitted to the Balco stuff but as he points out he was off it before it was banned. Still cheating without breaking the rules in place though, I agree.

As for Tank I have been listening to NFL radio all day and the Bears have come out and said he will remain on the roster and is welcome back when his sentence is done...so we won't get him. Teams never lie when then make these press releases. :confused:

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

I disagree.

Many on hear were QUICK (myself included) to attack him after he was busted, and concluded that they would NEVER want a player like that on our team.

It's impossible to know who roids and who doesn't and who's a good person and who's not, but at least if we KNOW they're a bad person, let's stay away.

I know as fans many of us just want our favorite team to win, but think of the team's reputation, and just think of the team in general.

If you were on the team, would you want your teammate to be someone who's just spent 120 days in jail?

Or someone who's blatantly cheating the game just for personal satisfaction, success, and greed?It was just a probation violation it wasnt like he beat his wife or anything like that.

These are high profile players and are targets to be robbed,so maybe he felt he should carry a gun for protection.These guys do get threatened and robbed.

Recently Barry Bonds have been receiving death threats for no apparent reason,having money and fame is very dangerous these days.

I remember when Keyshawn Johnson got robbed out here,by 2 youngsters.I was right across the street when it happened,so I know what they go through.These players can have very dangerous lives.It doesnt mean their bad people.

[antiwup]

The guns were legal,its not like he committed a crime with them.
i know but he is in jail. i think any one who hasnt committed a crime should be allowed to own any kind of gun from pistols to assault rifles. the 2nd amendment is to keep and bare arms to defend this country the way of the minuteman! the 2nd amendment is not for just hunting its for protection!!!!

[RunYouOver]

It was just a probation violation it wasnt like he beat his wife or anything like that.

These are high profile players and are targets to be robbed,so maybe he felt he should carry a gun for protection.These guys do get threatened and robbed.

Recently Barry Bonds have been receiving death threats for no apparent reason,having money and fame is very dangerous these days.

I remember when Keyshawn Johnson got robbed out here,by 2 youngsters.I was right across the street when it happened,so I know what they go threw.These players can have very dangerous lives.It doesnt mean their bad people.


My point is, this isn't the FIRST time he's gotten in trouble with the law, he's a proven trouble maker;

"This isn't the first time that Johnson has been in trouble with the law. In fact, his latest brush with the law may cost him some jail time (based upon a previous offense). Some time ago, Johnson was charged with another crime, and at the time of the raid and his subsequent arrest on weapons charges, he was on probation for this crime."
http://www.e-sports.com/articles/1734/1/The-saga-of-Tank-Johnson-Did-the-Bears-make-the-right-decision/Page1.html



He's NOT the player you want on a team...

[broncolee]

Why are some so eager not to have a guy here because he has a tainted past? Neither one is a habitual locker room distraction. If we were hurting at linebacker and Merriman was availabe, most Bronco fans (myself included) would salivate at the chance of getting him even though he did use roids. Most people have made poor decisions at one point in their life or another, do you deny them a job because of it?

Both can contribute and make the team better, and as neither of these guys has a habitual problem (as far as we can tell), then their potential as players should be the determining factor.

While I would not oppose giving Johnson or Haynesworth a chance, I would not want Merriman to play for the Broncos. His mistake was more than just poor judgement. It was a purposeful act to cheat. :salute:

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

My point is, this isn't the FIRST time he's gotten in trouble with the law, he's a proven trouble maker;

"This isn't the first time that Johnson has been in trouble with the law. In fact, his latest brush with the law may cost him some jail time (based upon a previous offense). Some time ago, Johnson was charged with another crime, and at the time of the raid and his subsequent arrest on weapons charges, he was on probation for this crime."
http://www.e-sports.com/articles/1734/1/The-saga-of-Tank-Johnson-Did-the-Bears-make-the-right-decision/Page1.html



He's NOT the player you want on a team...Some players commit crimes and it gets blowed up,but other players you never hear about it.They all do things wrong lol.Their is a double standard in the NFL.Nobody is PERFECT!!!

[kcarr26]

so I'll be honest... I didn't read to many posts about this guy... as I feel they'd all be like mine (i know... with some people on this board.. that's unrealistic to do... considddddddddddering


this guy has been given 4 chances at his life.



Any average joe like you and me... are only given one... If we screw it up, then we get blasted..


Good or not, this guys days should not only be limited and over in chicago, but should be over in nfl. :coffee: what a joke.

[NickTranOwnz]

I'd give him one shot. One more screw-up, and he's gone. Out of Denver with no money.

Heard of Colt Brennan? He got into trouble at Colorado but June Jones gave him a chance and look where he is now.

I wouldn't mind Shanny signing him. Except the contract would be paid in the off-season and if he screws up his money is all gone and he leaves Denver with no money. One chance only.

Remember - Where would Colt Brennan be today if he didn't get a chance from June Jones?

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

All these athletes screw up time after time.Some things bother some people,and other things bother other people.We all get aggravated off different things.This crime might bother some of you,but it doesnt bother me,because he did at least give an apology for his actions.

[kcarr26]

What's an apology mean these days?


Does that mean, he can go out... do it again.. and just give another apology?

This man has had SUCCESS HANDED to him.. and he throws it out the door.

He's been handed a life most people wish they could have.


I could use the money he's made?


How about you?


If I'd known that all you have to do in the NFL after committing a crime is apologize... "I'd of beefed up on steroids in highschool, cheated my way to the NFL, made my millions, then start disobeying the law...


but just apologize... then it'd be ok.



Come on.. Having offenses like that on my record... would prevent me from being applicable to so many jobs.


Why should he be any different.


Get rid of the man... he's a cancer at best.

[CinnaMunMun]

All these athletes screw up time after time.Some things bother some people,and other things bother other people.We all get aggravated off different things.This crime might bother some of you,but it doesnt bother me,because he did at least give an apology for his actions.

Apologizing is nice, but it doesn't fix the fact that he has been in trouble with the law a few times.

Sure, nobody is perfect, but when someone is paying you millions of dollars, they expect you to stay out of jail.

[Anikai]

forget about Tank Johnson, dont want him, dont need him, let him go to the Bengals..

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

What about the Owners the Big Corporations,the Corporate Thugs they do things that get un noticed and they never give an apology.


Since the spotlight is on Tank it looks like he is bad person.Everyone does things against the law, but not everyone gets caught.

[evendelae]

Blehhhhh on Tank Johnson. I don't want to be paying a thug's salary. Yeah, I know, people can change, but his record really indicates otherwise. I think you really know something is wrong with the world when you're willing to pay criminals in order to win games. I know football seems important, but somehow I think maybe the way to turn his life around isn't by enabling him by giving him millions of dollars.

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

Blehhhhh on Tank Johnson. I don't want to be paying a thug's salary. Yeah, I know, people can change, but his record really indicates otherwise. I think you really know something is wrong with the world when you're willing to pay criminals in order to win games. I know football seems important, but somehow I think maybe the way to turn his life around isn't by enabling him by giving him millions of dollars.You raise good points and I agree with most of them :thumb: ,whose to say he is a criminal just by trying to protect himself lol.

[CinnaMunMun]

What about the Owners the Big Corporations,the Corporate Thugs they do things that get un noticed and they never give an apology.


Since the spotlight is on Tank it looks like he is bad person.Everyone does things against the law, but not everyone gets caught.

Corporate thugs MAKE money, along with getting paid. The business world is different than the NFL in most aspects.

Tank looks like a bad person because: BUMBUDADAAAA he commited crimes that warranted jail time. You keep trying to play it off like he stole a pack of bubble gum.

Yea, people might break the law once in a while, whether its speeding, jaywalking, whatever. Those aren't worth 120 days in jail.

You want to know what he did?

1st offense: misdemeanor gun charge resulting in probation and community service. He had a pistol on him at a nightclub. I wonder why he had it in the first place with him unless he was expecting trouble.

2nd offense: Got rough with a police officer as the cop was ticketing Johnson's limo driver. Tank had to be maced and subdued. Luckily for him, charges were dropped.

3rd offense: Caught having 6 guns, including 2 assault rifles. His bodyguard was also found to have marijuana on him. The marijuana isn't his fault, but he is facing a year in jail for the guns. Johnson was deactivated for a game due to this. He couldn't be suspended since the NFL doesn't have a policy on situations like this, and the CBA protects him from the Bears HO.

4th offense: Violating probation. He was not allowed to leave Illinois or drive himself, except to go to the Super Bowl. He will serve 120 days in jail.

This guy is no angel that had innocently been caught guilty of things the average person does. He is a thug, or at least a wannabe one.

[Jared]

The guns were legal,its not like he committed a crime with them.

The very act of having them was illegal, as it violated parole on a previous charge.

[Jared]

i know but he is in jail. i think any one who hasnt committed a crime should be allowed to own any kind of gun from pistols to assault rifles. the 2nd amendment is to keep and bare arms to defend this country the way of the minuteman! the 2nd amendment is not for just hunting its for protection!!!!


But he DID commit a crime. His previous weapons charge was for possession without a permit.

He also has a marijuana possession charge.



He got parole. He was told to stay away from guns and weed.


And he broke the law again by violating parole.

So, would you still agree with your initial statement?

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

The very act of having them was illegal, as it violated parole on a previous charge.He did buy them legally,their were just purchased in another state,so their were legal.Its not like the guns were stolen or hot,they were his.

The only crime he committed was probation violation. I guess thats a system crime :coffee:

[LoyalSoldier]

The guy just seems to have bad judgment so I would say no.