Redskins Portis, possibly may be on the trading block again.. (Merged)

[TDMiller2]

Word out here in DC is that Portis may be on the trading blocks again, because of Danield Snyders concern of salary cap issues and the sudden emergence of Ladell Betts.

Could Portis like Shannan Sharpe return in a Broncos uniform?

This morning:
http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20061218-125725-6547r.htm


Q: I have vague memories of Clinton Portis being the Redskins' main man on offense. Will he be Betts' backup when he's healthy again next season?

A: Portis likely will remain the No. 1 back if the Redskins don't trade him, and a deal remains a possibility. Still, Betts has been terrific the past four weeks. He certainly has earned a greater share of the workload next season.

[silkamilkamonic]

Maybe Betts will be the one that gets traded, even though they wouldn't get the same value.

I wouldn't mind Portis back in Denver, but he would have to restructure his contract.

IMHO, he's overpaid as it is, and Denver doesn't need to give top $'s to a position they haven't had a lot of problems with. It would be foolish.

[emac87]

It would be tough for us to trade for him, unless its for draft picks. I would love to have him back here, although he seems to be injury prone of late.

[WhoDeyBengals]

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post this! :laugh:

He'd be a great fit, and I personally think the Broncos would be smart to try and get him back. But it'll be too costly, most likely.

[ChrisSimpy]

Maybe Betts will be the one that gets traded, even though they wouldn't get the same value.

I wouldn't mind Portis back in Denver, but he would have to restructure his contract.

IMHO, he's overpaid as it is, and Denver doesn't need to give top $'s to a position they haven't had a lot of problems with. It would be foolish.

i doubt betts will be the one traded since he just got a contract extension a few weeks ago

[lancane]

Hahaha...will not happen, Shanahan is more likely to trade our next five first round picks for Marshawn Lynch and offer him a $50,000 seven year deal then bring Portis back...Portis left a bad taste in Shanahan's mouth...he will never be a Bronco again, unless as a broke down backup!

;)

[BayAreaBronco]

I would love to have Portis back.

I think it's highly unlikely though. He'll be disappointed with his contract if he comes here.

[BroncsSB#3]

I'd rather get Betts from them.

[WyoBroncoMan]

As I recall, Portis requested to be the highest paid running back in the league. He may be a fine back, but he should remember the O-line that helped make him so successful in Denver.

If I were a player, I would take less money if it meant playing for a better team and a better chance at a Superbowl.

[ErnieNovember]

If anything the Broncos need to get a big bruiser type back, some one big like Larry Johnson... the big fast backs seem to be the wave of the future, right now I would be happy for a back that can hold on to the ball.

[MadMarten]

Portis would just be too expensive.. slim to non chance... Sharpe came back but, I think denvers need for an exceptional tight-end made his return feasible, With denvers plug and play running backs - no need for Portis' $$$$

[mojo0730]

Here's what's going to have to happen for Portis to come back to Denver...

a) Clinton Portis will have to take less money, and apologize to Mike Shanahan for pushing the orignal trade that sent him to Washington to begin with.

b) Mike Shanahan would essentially admit that Clinton Portis was more valuable to him than he originally led on or thought.

Since I see neither of these happening, I say that Portis goes elsewhere. Denver is going to be having problems with the cap themselves next season, and are going to be looking to both unload some of their big contracts and sign younger, more raw players to fill the gaps. I love CP, and wouldn't mind seeing him back here. But with his age, injury problems, and salary, it just wouldn't be the same as it was three seasons ago.

[Aija]

Portis is damaged goods. They ran the kid into the ground in Washington. They did not use him right and I fear that though still young his best days may be behind him.

[ErnieNovember]

All this was brought up last week sometime. Portis didn't like the actual city of Denver, I seen him on cribs Denver style and all he did was make backhanded comments on the fact there wasn't anything for him to do in Denver outside of football? He was saying Denver was a boring city in other words... (Maybe he's not a skiier)
Let Portis rot in DC in his dark bedroom with is bare looking fish tank, yea he was on cribs again, DC style.

[The Executioner]

I'll take Portis for Plummer and Bell anyday if the Redskins are that dumb. Thats a young Superbowl team right there with Cutler, Walker, Portis and Bailey.

[TheWookieeBronco]

If anything the Broncos need to get a big bruiser type back, some one big like Larry Johnson... the big fast backs seem to be the wave of the future, right now I would be happy for a back that can hold on to the ball.

Yeah i think a Larry Johnson type player would be very good for us but there is no way we would be able to trade for him let alone afford what his wages will be.

Shame really.

[diesel51]

Although highly unlikely,

I'd rather see Micheal "The Burner" Turner in our backfield next year than Portis.

The only thing is this; will Turner turn out to be like another well liked back up, LaMont Jordan?

[Medford Bronco]

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post this! :laugh:

He'd be a great fit, and I personally think the Broncos would be smart to try and get him back. But it'll be too costly, most likely.

Ya think Whodey. ;)

Wouldnt it be nice to have a 1500 yard back who normally scores 15-17 tds (when with Denver)

As long as he is healthy. At least his injury is not to his Knee/legs.

I would love it if he came back. He is so much better than Tatum/Mike Bell it is not even funny.

He might even be as good as Rudi Johnson ;)

[Bronco Texan]

How about Tatum and they get to keep their 3rd round pick. Tatum would be a great compliment to Betts plus he would be cheap. Clinton would be awesome to have again behind our line. Plus a Clinton/Mike Bell pair would be awesome. Although I think Clinton would way too expensive and this would not happen. But for a perfect scenerio this would be it.

[daspeedster]

It would be tough for us to trade for him, unless its for draft picks. I would love to have him back here, although he seems to be injury prone of late.
why would it be hard? jake plummer is sitting there on the sidelines. And they could use a better veteran qb.

[emac87]

why would it be hard? jake plummer is sitting there on the sidelines. And they could use a better veteran qb.
I just think it would be tough because we are strapped when it comes to the cap and he wanted a lot of money and Denver wasn't willing to pay him that

[DenBronx]

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?p=1472375#post1472375

isnt plummers salary comparable to portis?

i thought plummer was scheduled to make around 6 mil...

Player Base Salary Sign Bonus Other Bonus Total Salary Cap Value Position

Plummer, Jake $ 665,000 $ 6,760,000 $ 205,200 $ 7,630,200 $ 3,222,200 QB

Portis, Clinton $ 455,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 455,000 $ 2,385,833 RB

actually this is last year and this year, next year and the following plummer is scheduled to make more ....so i think plummer is getting paid way more than portis.



ok so a few were disagreeing with me until they realized that plummer is making MORE than portis. so a trade is deffinitely not out of the question. we would trade both players and both teams can ask the to re-structure. this time i dont think portis would mind because he has been injured and not playing to his full potential.

washington has a great solid backup that would be way cheaper and they could use him as a starter. washington has huge holes to fill and im sure we will pull off another blockbuster trade with them again this offseason.

also a few words to the wise: WASHINGTON NEEDS A QB, DENVER NEEDS A RB!!!

[TDMiller2]

I just think it would be tough because we are strapped when it comes to the cap and he wanted a lot of money and Denver wasn't willing to pay him that

The problem for Portis, is not very many teams are hurting for running backs and the ones that are, know that they have a nice selection in the draft this year, which means his stock will drop even further.

Look at some of the teams that need RBs right now.
Definitely: Oakland, Cleveland, Detroit

Some teams that may need RBs.
Maybe: NY Jets, Miami, Houston

So, Portis may have to take a pay cut to either play for a decent team or sign with a bad team to get the type of contract that he wants. I believe he will stay in Washington, but if he is traded, he may end up with NY Jets or Oakland.

We all know that the Jets would prefere someone with experience knowing that they may have a chance to run for the Super Bowl next year. AL Davis loves signing veteran players with no incentive clauses. Cleveland and Detroit will probably look to the draft to match the young players that they already have.

The question is where Portis is willing to go and what is he willing to give up if he is traded?

[emac87]

The problem for Portis, is not very many teams are hurting for running backs and the ones that are, know that they have a nice selection in the draft this year, which means his stock will drop even further.

Look at some of the teams that need RBs right now.
Definitely: Oakland, Cleveland, Detroit

Some teams that may need RBs.
Maybe: NY Jets, Miami, Houston

So, Portis may have to take a pay cut to either play for a decent team or sign with a bad team to get the type of contract that he wants. I believe he will stay in Washington, but if he is traded, he may end up with NY Jets or Oakland.

We all know that the Jets would prefere someone with experience knowing that they may have a chance to run for the Super Bowl next year. AL Davis loves signing veteran players with no incentive clauses. Cleveland and Detroit will probably look to the draft to match the young players that they already have.

The question is where Portis is willing to go and what is he willing to give up if he is traded?
Hmmmmm.......good analysis. Although with Detroit, Kevin Jones is pretty young. But he hasn't shown much

[tommy1986]

Hmmmmm.......good analysis. Although with Detroit, Kevin Jones is pretty young. But he hasn't shown much


and Miami has Ronnie Brown, who is a stud. But yeah...

[SmithOverTO]

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post this! :laugh:

He'd be a great fit, and I personally think the Broncos would be smart to try and get him back. But it'll be too costly, most likely.


Good point. We need to remember the money we gave Champ, John Lynch, Al Wilson, Javon Walker, and Matt Lepsis and Nalen.


Mike Bell is the future, I still tink.

[emac87]

Good point. We need to remember the money we gave Champ, John Lynch, Al Wilson, Javon Walker, and Matt Lepsis and Nalen.


Mike Bell is the future, I still tink.
Mike Bell runs hard, but he lacks vision. That is definitely something that if he worked on he would be pretty good

[22cannon]

Portis comes packaged w/ Steinberg. I don't think it would happen

[TDMiller2]

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?p=1472375#post1472375

isnt plummers salary comparable to portis?

i thought plummer was scheduled to make around 6 mil...

Player Base Salary Sign Bonus Other Bonus Total Salary Cap Value Position

Plummer, Jake $ 665,000 $ 6,760,000 $ 205,200 $ 7,630,200 $ 3,222,200 QB

Portis, Clinton $ 455,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 455,000 $ 2,385,833 RB

actually this is last year and this year, next year and the following plummer is scheduled to make more ....so i think plummer is getting paid way more than portis.



ok so a few were disagreeing with me until they realized that plummer is making MORE than portis. so a trade is deffinitely not out of the question. we would trade both players and both teams can ask the to re-structure. this time i dont think portis would mind because he has been injured and not playing to his full potential.

washington has a great solid backup that would be way cheaper and they could use him as a starter. washington has huge holes to fill and im sure we will pull off another blockbuster trade with them again this offseason.

also a few words to the wise: WASHINGTON NEEDS A QB, DENVER NEEDS A RB!!!

Here in DC, Joe Gibbs has stated that Jason Campbell is his QB for next season. He already has Mark Brunell committed for another season to teach Campbell. So, I don't think that he is going to sign Plummer, when he already has Brunell. Besides, Plummer has a better shot at being a solid backup with experience for other teams out there, just like Griese, Kitna, B Johnson etc.

There are a couple of teams that he may fit as a backup.
Atlanta, if Schaub chooses to leave that opens a spot up for a backup to Vick.

Buffalo, because Losman has been inconsistent up until now and look at their backups, Kelly Holcomb and Craig Nall.

Green Bay, if Brett Farve retires, Aaron Rogers will definitely need a veteran backup.

Tennessee, if Kerry Collins looks elsewhere at the end of the season, Plummer definitely has a chance to be a backup to Vince Young, who has good chance of injury with his mobility.

[22cannon]

Your'e nuts if you think Jake is going to back up next year. Mark my words he'll be starting somewhere next year.

Sorry for the OT

[BR0NCOFANATIC]

Portis doesnt deserve to wear a broncos uniform again. This is an organization of class, and he didnt show it when he left us. He is an unfaithful ball player. I would rather see one of them chicago bears running backs over here.

[lancane]

Your'e nuts if you think Jake is going to back up next year. Mark my words he'll be starting somewhere next year.

Sorry for the OT

Yep in Oakland or Kansas City, Foxworth and Bailey will be Pro Bowl bound from two major games a year!

:D

[Breezer]

Word out here in DC is that Portis may be on the trading blocks again, because of Danield Snyders concern of salary cap issues and the sudden emergence of Ladell Betts.

Could Portis like Shannan Sharpe return in a Broncos uniform?

This morning:
http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20061218-125725-6547r.htm


Q: I have vague memories of Clinton Portis being the Redskins' main man on offense. Will he be Betts' backup when he's healthy again next season?

A: Portis likely will remain the No. 1 back if the Redskins don't trade him, and a deal remains a possibility. Still, Betts has been terrific the past four weeks. He certainly has earned a greater share of the workload next season.

That would be sweet. Tatum Bell just doesn't have what it takes to be a consistant runner.

[TDMiller2]

Portis doesnt deserve to wear a broncos uniform again. This is an organization of class, and he didnt show it when he left us. He is an unfaithful ball player. I would rather see one of them chicago bears running backs over here.

Well I am not mad at Portis, he did what he thought was best for him at the time. Young players make mistakes, if he had been at New England with Billacheck, he would have got the same treatement that he got from Shanahan. Because they know superstars and they know role players who fit in systems. Portis fit in our system. If he returned next year, it might be the best move he ever made.

[TDMiller2]

Your'e nuts if you think Jake is going to back up next year. Mark my words he'll be starting somewhere next year.

Sorry for the OT

I hope your write, I like Plummer and hope he does start somewhere esle, but the chances are very slim right now.

Why don't you give me a list of teams that you think he may start for? and we can analyze them to see if he has a chance start.

It all boils down to this, there are places he has a shot at being a starter, but he is going to have to be mistake free, be a deep thhreat passer, and perform in the pocket. And do all of this in the preseason, where ever he goes.

The only teams that I see him being an immediate starter next season:

Buffalo, but Losman has been playing consistent the last few weeks and is starting to show promise, but because the inconsistencey of their backups, this may give him chance to compete for the starting job.

Cleveland, but they may have found something in their backup Derek Anderson and they may go after Troy Brown in the draft, but Crennel likes veterans and may give Plummer a shot.

Detroit, but he is going to be competing possibly with Brady Quinn and every other free agent out there.

Jacksonville, because leftwichs' injuries and Gerrards inconsistency he may have a legitimate shot. His mobility may work in his favor there, because Jacksonville like Denver, has a good running game.

Everyone else made their QB moves this year or the year prior.

[legend]

I still see Plummer going to Minnesota for some reason.

[JoRo]

As I recall, Portis requested to be the highest paid running back in the league. He may be a fine back, but he should remember the O-line that helped make him so successful in Denver.

If I were a player, I would take less money if it meant playing for a better team and a better chance at a Superbowl.


I second that thing you said bout a better team. For how much more money they make it isnt really worth it imo to be losin consistantly. Call me crazy but I'd rather make a little less money and win more often.


Either way I dont think Portis would be worth our efforts. Unlike Tatum CP actually has had durability questions. It looks to me like he is breaking down, not a big surprise as he is something like a 205-210 rb who hasn't played a full season in the nfl cept maybe one year? (not sure)

[MarvinWillis]

Why did Sharpe left, in 2000 i was too young to understand.

[BR0NCOFANATIC]

Sharpe just wanted some more money.

[WABronco]

The price we'd have to give up would hurt us more than adding Portis would help us, IMO. Just junk-heap Tatum and get someone else (Turner, drafted player) if you want to upgrade...

[rich5368]

I think it'd be stupid. Denver got the best end of the deal as it is. Portis is good. He was great for Denver, but don't disregard the fact that he hasn't played an entire season without injury. His 2 years in Denver he missed at least 3 games each due to injury. His last season in Denver he missed 4 games with the Chest injury remember? That's when everyone saw the emergence of R. Droughnes and Portis became expendable in a trade.

[ReleaseTheBeast7]

Oh My God!!!!!!!!

Let's Get Him Baby!!!!

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

My favorite player of that time coming back to play...

Hmmmmmm BRING THE DUDE BACK!!!!

[ReleaseTheBeast7]

My favorite player of that time coming back to play...

Hmmmmmm BRING THE DUDE BACK!!!!

Exactly! Best back in the league when he's in Denver baby.

[tommy1986]

Exactly! Best back in the league when he's in Denver baby.


How about we get the guy in your sig instead? :)

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

How about we get the guy in your sig instead? :)
Would rather have a proven monster of a probowler in Portis.

[tommy1986]

Would rather have a proven monster of a probowler in Portis.


damaged goods

[Charlie Brown]

Cleveland, but they may have found something in their backup Derek Anderson and they may go after Troy Brown in the draft, but Crennel likes veterans and may give Plummer a shot.

Even if Crennel likes veterans he's not the GM. The GM picks the players, not the head coach. Rest assured, Plummer will NOT be a Brown and Troy SMITH will not be a Brown.

[Drunk Bronco]

lets take cp back,wooooooooooooooo

[codbra]

Hahaha...will not happen, Shanahan is more likely to trade our next five first round picks for Marshawn Lynch and offer him a $50,000 seven year deal then bring Portis back...Portis left a bad taste in Shanahan's mouth...he will never be a Bronco again, unless as a broke down backup!

;)

I agree, Shanahan will never let that guy back in our line-up. Portis is a "Me Guy," the only thing he is worried about is personal accomplishments the "U". I love that Shanahan doesn't allow those players to creep back into the locker room. A lot of other coaches let guys like this in their locker room and then all heck breaks loose. Shanahan loves to reward players that bust their A and get it done in practice.

[TDMiller2]

Even if Crennel likes veterans he's not the GM. The GM picks the players, not the head coach. Rest assured, Plummer will NOT be a Brown and Troy SMITH will not be a Brown.

Hey Charlie, whats up?

I agree with you, which is why I was trying to explain that the Browns may have found something in D. Anderson. The problem with Troy Smith is his size and I think Cleveland has another issue, which is their RB position.
Do you agree?

Trying to remember who their GM is?

Can't wait to see the playoff rival resume with Denver and Cleveland...

[rovolution]

Hey Charlie, whats up?

I agree with you, which is why I was trying to explain that the Browns may have found something in D. Anderson. The problem with Troy Smith is his size and I think Cleveland has another issue, which is their RB position.
Do you agree?

Trying to remember who their GM is?

Can't wait to see the playoff rival resume with Denver and Cleveland...

Phil Savage, i belive his name his (Cleveland GM)

[tommy1986]

How exactly is Portis a "me" guy? I guarantee you he wants his team to win. He's definitely not a Terrell Owens.

[Charlie Brown]

Hey Charlie, whats up?

I agree with you, which is why I was trying to explain that the Browns may have found something in D. Anderson. The problem with Troy Smith is his size and I think Cleveland has another issue, which is their RB position.
Do you agree?

Trying to remember who their GM is?

Can't wait to see the playoff rival resume with Denver and Cleveland...

I do not care for Anderson. He's a backup that is starting while the regular starter is injured. Nothing more and nothing less.

The Browns do not need a running back. Droughns, Wright, and Harrison are toting it just fine. The problem is with the blocking. The OL has been providing little to no pass protection and at the same time isn't opening up running lanes.

[TDMiller2]

I do not care for Anderson. He's a backup that is starting while the regular starter is injured. Nothing more and nothing less.

The Browns do not need a running back. Droughns, Wright, and Harrison are toting it just fine. The problem is with the blocking. The OL has been providing little to no pass protection and at the same time isn't opening up running lanes.

I thought that Droughns was doing fine. The reason I mentioned Cleveland because of this article I found.

In recent years the Browns have invested a number of premium draft picks on playmakers at tight end, wide receiver and quarterback but one skill position that is still a concern is running back, where Reuben Droughns is solid but certainly nothing special. Adrian Peterson has a tremendous blend of size, speed and power and he may end up being the best prospect we've seen at the position in quite a while. The only question with Peterson, who's been compared to Hall of Famer Eric ****erson, is durability but his injuries have been relatively minor for the most part and he is just such a rare talent that most teams will be than willing to overlook that factor.

[Charlie Brown]

Adrian Peterson has a tremendous blend of size, speed and power and he may end up being the best prospect we've seen at the position in quite a while. The only question with Peterson, who's been compared to Hall of Famer Eric ****erson, is durability but his injuries have been relatively minor for the most part and he is just such a rare talent that most teams will be than willing to overlook that factor.

Durability is not a 'minor' issue with Peterson.

It is a freaking Major issue with him.

His career will last only a few years before he suffers a career ender (heck, maybe even his rookie year!)

[TDMiller]

WASHINGTON - It’s time to trade Clinton Portis. Maybe it’s the eggnog talking, but Redskins running back Ladell Betts’ recent emergence makes Portis expendable no matter how good the runner is. No matter that he’s better than Betts. No matter the cost will be $8 million against the salary cap.

The Redskins now have two aces in the backfield. Trading one wouldn’t greatly hurt the offense and could provide a defensive starter or a second-round pick.

An impact player in the middle of the defensive line is needed more than another defensive end given Andre Carter now looks worth his big-money deal. The Redskins secondary and linebacking are good enough, but the line needs a run stopper and pass rusher inside.

Redskins owner Dan Snyder loves deal making, but this one has to come with a caveat — don’t do it unless it’s worthwhile. Don’t sweeten the deal with draft picks. Don’t acquire an aging star. If this deal isn’t possible straight up for a defensive tackle, then walk away.

Portis is the logical choice to go. Many executives around the NFL might still doubt Betts despite his 933 yards and 4.8 yard average thus far this season. Portis is the proven back with a Redskins single-season rushing record and a resumé that may eventually merit Hall of Fame consideration. Portis will command far more in a trade than Betts, whom many teams believe they can simply use their own first-rounder to gain.

Betts is a better fit for this offense. He’s more of a between tackles runner than Portis and a better receiver out of the backfield with 45 catches. That’s not saying Portis isn’t a tough guy because he’s a superior blocker picking up blitzes than Betts.

See the rest of the article here:
http://www.examiner.com/a-464416~Audible_out_of_two_back_set__Trade_Portis.h tml

[DenBronx]

WASHINGTON - It’s time to trade Clinton Portis. Maybe it’s the eggnog talking, but Redskins running back Ladell Betts’ recent emergence makes Portis expendable no matter how good the runner is. No matter that he’s better than Betts. No matter the cost will be $8 million against the salary cap.

The Redskins now have two aces in the backfield. Trading one wouldn’t greatly hurt the offense and could provide a defensive starter or a second-round pick.

An impact player in the middle of the defensive line is needed more than another defensive end given Andre Carter now looks worth his big-money deal. The Redskins secondary and linebacking are good enough, but the line needs a run stopper and pass rusher inside.

Redskins owner Dan Snyder loves deal making, but this one has to come with a caveat — don’t do it unless it’s worthwhile. Don’t sweeten the deal with draft picks. Don’t acquire an aging star. If this deal isn’t possible straight up for a defensive tackle, then walk away.

Portis is the logical choice to go. Many executives around the NFL might still doubt Betts despite his 933 yards and 4.8 yard average thus far this season. Portis is the proven back with a Redskins single-season rushing record and a resumé that may eventually merit Hall of Fame consideration. Portis will command far more in a trade than Betts, whom many teams believe they can simply use their own first-rounder to gain.

Betts is a better fit for this offense. He’s more of a between tackles runner than Portis and a better receiver out of the backfield with 45 catches. That’s not saying Portis isn’t a tough guy because he’s a superior blocker picking up blitzes than Betts.

See the rest of the article here:
http://www.examiner.com/a-464416~Audible_out_of_two_back_set__Trade_Portis.h tml




ive been saying all year give them back their round 3 draft pick, toss in plummer and we have a deal.

btw, plummer get paid more than portis and both should consider restructuring their contracts.

[BroncoBJ4MVP!!!]

I'll take Portis for Plummer and Bell anyday if the Redskins are that dumb. Thats a young Superbowl team right there with Cutler, Walker, Portis and Bailey.

WOW!!!!!!! :rockon:

CP for that post!
just the thought of that team is AWSOME!

[Sam24]

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post this! :laugh:

He'd be a great fit, and I personally think the Broncos would be smart to try and get him back. But it'll be too costly, most likely.
Some say its a good idea others say its a bad one, we'd have to weight alot of issues on this.
For one can he last an entire season, Im not sure that an injury prone player is worth the trouble, see Courtney Brown. In Denver players have to be tough and shanny only takes those type of players.

Number two will he restructure his contract and act his age and not become a distraction? We really dont need him messing with the chemistry in our locker room, personally I think he'd be a bad influence on alot of our young players. This is Cutlers, Walkers, Schefflers, Marshalls and Mike Bell's team on offense.

3 Maybe he did learn alot and would appreciate our team alot more but hes still a very big risk in the locker room, so even though Im crazy about his homerun talents I vote no.
Id rather have Ahman Green or Tiki Barber here in Denver. Meaning if we're looking to trade, then trade for high character stand up players such as one tiki barber.

[Bigplayshay84]

If anything the Broncos need to get a big bruiser type back, some one big like Larry Johnson... the big fast backs seem to be the wave of the future, right now I would be happy for a back that can hold on to the ball.

Yeah dude when do you see Larry Johnson in a Broncos uniform?

[UberBroncoMan]

I would trade - Plummer - Bell and a 2nd round pick for Portis....if he restructured his contract....the reason for losing Plummer is that the cash losing him frees up will help to give Portis a contract worth what he is atm.

I would also make sure Portis's contract was filled with incentives and clauses that pertain to injury.

[Dream]

There's to many factors such as injury and contract status that would affect Portis' grade for any of us to even imagine what it'd take to get him. Knowing Dan Synder is their GM; he'd probably ask for the farm.

[rcsodak]

Portis might miss mini-camp
Wednesday, Dec 6, 2006 12:11 pm EST

Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis had left shoulder surgery on Tuesday. Rehabilitation is expected to take six months which could keep him out of mini-camp.

Portis went on injured reserve last month with a broken right hand, suffered while playing Philadelphia on Nov. 12.

Source: Associated Press

[stnzed]

People talk about trades as if they are trading Topps rookie cards! :D

[rcsodak]

People talk about trades as if they are trading Topps rookie cards! :D
It's all play money, when it's not their money.... :coffee:

[stnzed]

It's all play money, when it's not their money.... :coffee:


Logic has no place either............Why not hold out your bound to find some sucker that will trade with you a Plummer and Bell for a Julius Peppers! :D

[WABronco]

Ahhhhh crap the law has been laid....shut down the boards.

[stnzed]

I just don't see the logic in trading a lame duck QB when it cost a lot more to trade him than cut him! (Every team knows he won't be staying anyway)

And who wants Bell?

If he can't do it for a team that churns out 1000yard backs, who can he do it for?

You might find some interest, but how much is worth it when you know what he can give you in this system coming off the bench?

[theshiverman]

Word out here in DC is that Portis may be on the trading blocks again, because of Danield Snyders concern of salary cap issues and the sudden emergence of Ladell Betts.

Could Portis like Shannan Sharpe return in a Broncos uniform?

This morning:
http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20061218-125725-6547r.htm


Q: I have vague memories of Clinton Portis being the Redskins' main man on offense. Will he be Betts' backup when he's healthy again next season?

A: Portis likely will remain the No. 1 back if the Redskins don't trade him, and a deal remains a possibility. Still, Betts has been terrific the past four weeks. He certainly has earned a greater share of the workload next season.


Portis was a beast in that Zone Blocking system, but he has turned injury prone on the field and turned into a complete clown off the field with the stupid dress up sessions, i dont see Shanny trying to work a trade for him, and we all know the Redskins would want Champ back and there aint no way in hell that would happen.........p.s I think its official, Denver got the best out of that /Portis/Champ trade.

[dogfish]

I agree, Shanahan will never let that guy back in our line-up. Portis is a "Me Guy," the only thing he is worried about is personal accomplishments the "U". I love that Shanahan doesn't allow those players to creep back into the locker room. A lot of other coaches let guys like this in their locker room and then all heck breaks loose. Shanahan loves to reward players that bust their A and get it done in practice.


i just want to point out a fallacy here. . . there's no doubt that portis is a cocky, flashy guy-- but it's completely wrong to label him as a locker room problem or insinuate that he doesn't work hard. . . when he was here, he very frequently received praise from both shannon sharpe and rod smith for his work ethic-- and rod smith is the freakin' poster boy for work ethic, he knows it when he sees it, and he doesn't give out praise idly. . . . i remember reading quotes from rod saying that portis spent as much time in the weight room as anyone on the team, and that he was often the first to arrive at the complex and the last to leave. . . he was well-liked as a teammate when he was here, he played hard. . . and i don't ever remember any mention of him causing problems in the locker room, and i've heard no such reports from washington, either. . . fans around here may be bitter that he wanted to get paid in line with his production, but don't make the guy out to be something he's not. . . .

[TXBRONC]

i just want to point out a fallacy here. . . there's no doubt that portis is a cocky, flashy guy-- but it's completely wrong to label him as a locker room problem or insinuate that he doesn't work hard. . . when he was here, he very frequently received praise from both shannon sharpe and rod smith for his work ethic-- and rod smith is the freakin' poster boy for work ethic, he knows it when he sees it, and he doesn't give out praise idly. . . . i remember reading quotes from rod saying that portis spent as much time in the weight room as anyone on the team, and that he was often the first to arrive at the complex and the last to leave. . . he was well-liked as a teammate when he was here, he played hard. . . and i don't ever remember any mention of him causing problems in the locker room, and i've heard no such reports from washington, either. . . fans around here may be bitter that he wanted to get paid in line with his production, but don't make the guy out to be something he's not. . . .

Exactly, although Portis is cocky he was well liked by his teammates from what I understand and a hard worker. He is obviously a great fit for our offense but that being said I don't see how we could afford to bring him back even if the rumor is true.

[Humberg]

No way, I agree with other posters here. Comes down to 3 things:

1) Money - not willing to pay what it would cost for his contract, along with taking a hit to the cap to trade players like Plummer and Bell. A rookie contract is much more manageable.

2) Injuries - repeated injuries are concerning, not to mention shoulder problems are sometimes much more concerning than knee ACL issues (like Javon). There is no certainty that he would return with 100% health and we could be inheriting another Courtney. Go for someone who has lots of years ahead of him like a rookie sensation (drafted in round #2?)

3) Ego - I think it would be difficult for both Shanahan and Portis to put history behind them and start over. In the end, Shanny basically let everyone know he thought it was the system and not the player. I think there's a grudge.

Lets put our money and effort into known safe commodities. If you are going to spend a bundle, go after a DL (much harder to get through the draft). Key RB's come from the draft, thats where they are aplenty.

[broncsyanks]

with the announcments of our aqusition of washingtons high 3rd rounder as well as 4th rounder from the lelie trade, combine that with the way letts is playing for washington with there back up duckett. why not offer there 3rd rounder back to them for portis? i would. they arent on portis as much and yes he has been hurt but he is worth the chance since tater isnt getting the job done. just an idea.
your thoughts

[gobroncsnv]

With all the talk of Tatum's lack of durability, how many part-time backs do you think we need? Sorry, I just can't agree that any part of our future should be in Portis' lap.... We've moved on, and I would like to stay moved.

[s10350]

Portis is all about one thing money and to much of it. :salute:

[Orange RAGE]

As much as we all loved CP, his durability is questionable.

I think the better option is to pry Turner from the Bolts. Just another stab at our good ole' friend Marty.

[BigJuan]

As much as we all loved CP, his durability is questionable.

I think the better option is to pry Turner from the Bolts. Just another stab at our good ole' friend Marty.
why is everyone on turners jock he hasn't proved anything in the NFL but he can come in on a worn down defense and can run the ball for 6 yards a carry we already got a guy like that look what tatum did last year with mike hear he came in on a worn down defense and ran all over them so until turner proves something why would we pay him just as much as CP to get him hear not to mention a draft pick as well because you know SD will tag him

[pipes]

Portis comes packaged w/ Steinberg. I don't think it would happen


I think that you mean Drew Rosenhaus(spell check) aka Bob Sugar!

[bjoli198]

don´t want portis unless we get Mike Anderson back as a fullback for him, Kyle Johnson is to slow to block for the speedier kind of backs