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BroncoSexyDaddy
12-27-2006, 12:10 AM
These DL are free agent after the season ends who should we sign.
REEF_811
12-27-2006, 12:13 AM
I want all of them, shanny needs to go serious on D-line this offseason if we have a decent pass rush it would help us alot.
SPLITTINGBUNS
12-27-2006, 12:40 AM
If we could get Dwight or Jared I would be a happy man, our pass rush sucks as s
BroncoSexyDaddy
12-27-2006, 02:18 AM
If we win the superbowl this season all the free agents will be fighting to get to Denver.It doesnt matter i take any of the three.We play Indy,KC,and Balt next season so losing one to the Broncos would be huge.I like to see Freeney go up against Payton Manning and the Colts OL.
robbensays
12-27-2006, 02:31 AM
Adalious Thomas is a beast... he can play all position.
DEN7ER
12-27-2006, 03:40 AM
you forgot Simeon Rice...
lord_helmet
12-27-2006, 03:41 AM
IMHO Jared Allen is the best defensive end in the league right now
tommy1986
12-27-2006, 03:43 AM
IMHO Jared Allen is the best defensive end in the league right now
Better than Jason Taylor?
I prefer Charles Grant to any of those guys because he would probably be cheaper and he's good at both the run and rushing the passer. Dwight Freeney would make our defense scary though.
lord_helmet
12-27-2006, 03:52 AM
Better than Jason Taylor?
I prefer Charles Grant to any of those guys because he would probably be cheaper and he's good at both the run and rushing the passer. Dwight Freeney would make our defense scary though.
Taylor is getting up there in age, but true he is a beast in his own right. Grant is a quality DE but doesn't belong in the same tier as the other 2. Freeney I don't like, really hope he gets re-signed by the Colts or goes to a team I don't care about!
Allens 2006 numbers 16 weeks:
73 tackles, 63 solo!!!! 6 fumble recoveries, 5 forced fumbles, 8 sacks, 1 INT and 7 passes defensed
The guy is a MONSTER
tommy1986
12-27-2006, 03:55 AM
Taylor is getting up there in age, but true he is a beast in his own right. Grant is a quality DE but doesn't belong in the same tier as the other 2. Freeney I don't like, really hope he gets re-signed by the Colts or goes to a team I don't care about!
Allens 2006 numbers 16 weeks:
73 tackles, 63 solo!!!! 6 fumble recoveries, 5 forced fumbles, 8 sacks, 1 INT and 7 passes defensed
The guy is a MONSTER
Wow those are nice numbers! I knew Allen was good but man this proves he is one of the elite defensive players in this league. CP to you for this info! :salute:
I think I'll take Allen above anybody (except Julius Peppers). :)
lord_helmet
12-27-2006, 04:00 AM
Wow those are nice numbers! I knew Allen was good but man this proves he is one of the elite defensive players in this league. CP to you for this info! :salute:
I think I'll take Allen above anybody (except Julius Peppers). :)
My ears are a little red right now, I actually managed to forget about Peppers. He's the top dog and its not close, but Allen is a lot more realistic to change teams even though I'm pretty sure KC will find a way to retain him
BroncoSexyDaddy
12-27-2006, 04:05 AM
you forgot Simeon Rice...I sure did thanks for telling me that,i forgot about him.
BroncoSexyDaddy
12-27-2006, 04:07 AM
Wow those are nice numbers! I knew Allen was good but man this proves he is one of the elite defensive players in this league. CP to you for this info! :salute:
I think I'll take Allen above anybody (except Julius Peppers). :)Since you are in a CP mood wanna share some over here :cheers:
tommy1986
12-27-2006, 04:09 AM
Since you are in a CP mood wanna share some over here :cheers:
No problem. It's already sent. :salute:
lord_helmet
12-27-2006, 04:19 AM
I don't care about CP, I'd rather have Allen :D
BroncoSexyDaddy
12-27-2006, 04:21 AM
I don't care about CP, I'd rather have Allen :D I love CPs and Allen :salute: :D :salute:
lord_helmet
12-27-2006, 05:51 AM
I love CPs and Allen :salute: :D :salute:
Just looked up a little more #s on Allen, he's only a 3rd year player. Over the last 2 seasons he has more than 110 solo tackles, 12 Forced Fumbles and 19 sacks. I say we should offer him the farm to come here
GoBroncos84
12-27-2006, 06:44 AM
I think Allen is restricted, so keep in mind that if we sign him not only would he get a big contract but it would also cost us a draft pick, most likely a 1st rounder. He will probably be franchised anyways, if Tony G. isn't.
tommy1986
12-27-2006, 09:04 AM
I think Allen is restricted, so keep in mind that if we sign him not only would he get a big contract but it would also cost us a draft pick, most likely a 1st rounder. He will probably be franchised anyways, if Tony G. isn't.
I would give a first rounder for Allen.
Zoneblock249
12-27-2006, 12:06 PM
you forgot Simeon Rice...
To old................
theshiverman
12-27-2006, 12:15 PM
If they could sign any one of those guys it would be great.
emac87
12-27-2006, 12:16 PM
what about Mike Rucker? He's a beast and he's still got some years left. He's the Panther's career leader in sacks. Good against the run too.
ChrisKamanowns
12-27-2006, 12:51 PM
what about Mike Rucker? He's a beast and he's still got some years left. He's the Panther's career leader in sacks. Good against the run too.
a linemen that tore his ACL will not be nearly as effective as he was before the previous injury.....not many people know how much a linemen uses his knees unless you've played line.....a receiver is easier to come back from that sort of injury IMHO
i'd go with allen if and that's a big IF we could get him
Fan in exile
12-27-2006, 01:26 PM
You've got to figure that at least they'll have feelers out for these guys to see how much it's going to take to bring them in.
All things considered I would rather have a younger guy so that we can build a good line.
If we bring in a good young free agent, and keep picking up development guys, we won't have to be in this situation every year.
DiehardinAlaska
12-27-2006, 02:04 PM
Would seriously wound the Cheifs but what surprises me is all the votes for Freeney. We seem to neutralize him pretty well. Why not pick up a guy we can never stop (uh, Allen)?
Astrass
12-27-2006, 04:22 PM
I think our ends are fine. I'd love a couple DT's that can add pressure and demand double teams.
broncsyanks
12-27-2006, 04:42 PM
jared allen is a restricted free agent. that being said we would have to give up a 2 1st rounders. dwight freeney is unrestricted. dont give up anymore then we have to. we only need 1 DE. the other side is dumervil.
spend the money here
broncsyanks
12-27-2006, 04:43 PM
speaking of dt's i never understood why we gave up kieth traylor. the guy was awesome. i agree we need a stuffer on dt to help the fast DE's we have
Chidoze
12-27-2006, 05:06 PM
Is Adalious Thomas with Baltimore?
BroncoSexyDaddy
12-27-2006, 05:54 PM
Is Adalious Thomas with Baltimore?Yeah,he is a free agent at season end,it would be a big pick up for us if we could get him.
thomas will prolly be the only one we have a shot at. Chiefs will match any offer for allen considering he is one of theo nly bright spots on their defense and freeney at the least will be franchised tagged.
smilin'assassin
12-27-2006, 05:59 PM
Isn't Justin Smith on Cincy a free agent? Him or Jared Allen plus a DT would be the top priorities of the offseason IMO.
TheWookieeBronco
12-27-2006, 06:01 PM
I would love all of them but if i had to chose one, it would be Dwight. He is mad and if we played the Colts MUWAHAHAHA, Peyton would just piss his pants.
UnderArmour
12-27-2006, 06:03 PM
jared allen is a restricted free agent. that being said we would have to give up a 2 1st rounders. dwight freeney is unrestricted. dont give up anymore then we have to. we only need 1 DE. the other side is dumervil.
spend the money here
I don't think for Restricted Free Agents that the other team is entitled to two 1st round picks, I'm pretty sure that is only for Franchise Tagged players. But I may be mistaken.
If I could choose any one of those three, it'd be Thomas. Allen and Freeney are good, but Thomas would give our defense a whole new level of unpredictability.
Morambar
12-27-2006, 06:51 PM
I'd rather have Chris Hoke than anyone listed here. It's funny how 15 more tackles, an extra pick and sack and admittedly more forced fumbles are the difference between Allen being "the best in the League" and Ekuban needing to be cut. Note to wannabe NFL ends: if you have 6.5 sacks after 15 games you shouldn't be in the League; if you have 8 you're "the best.... "
Give me a DT besides Warren so our ends and LBs can make more plays. As long as the DTs can't occupy blockers or collapse the pocket and we rarely send more than one LB it doesn't matter who our ends are; with 2-3 guys to block him he's going nowhere.
SuperD77
12-27-2006, 07:02 PM
These DL are free agent after the season ends who should we sign.
All of them!!!!
BroncoSexyDaddy
12-27-2006, 07:15 PM
All of them!!!!
If we sign all of them,that means Jake and Rod are gone next season.Also all the Brownies!
WABronco
12-27-2006, 07:20 PM
None of the above.
Allen isn't leaving KC. He's a RFA and he will get the big tender, almost guaranteed.
Freeney would be nice, but he figures to get a massive contract. We could get the improvement we need elsewhere at lower prices.
Adalius Thomas is a LB...
arapaho
12-27-2006, 07:26 PM
I'd rather have Chris Hoke than anyone listed here. It's funny how 15 more tackles, an extra pick and sack and admittedly more forced fumbles are the difference between Allen being "the best in the League" and Ekuban needing to be cut. Note to wannabe NFL ends: if you have 6.5 sacks after 15 games you shouldn't be in the League; if you have 8 you're "the best.... "
Give me a DT besides Warren so our ends and LBs can make more plays. As long as the DTs can't occupy blockers or collapse the pocket and we rarely send more than one LB it doesn't matter who our ends are; with 2-3 guys to block him he's going nowhere.
see people heres a man who sees the big picture....it is not the defensive end we need it is the defensive tackle
eb, dumervill and lang have put up good numbers considering we have absolutly no interior push....what could it be with a great inside line man...i for one do not believe that anyone , freeney, peppers, allan anyone will help us without interier presense...all they would end up being is constanly doubled...much like pryce was
with freeny or any of the others they will do excactly what eb is doing force the qb to step up in a huge hole where the interior lineman should be...but isnt
we need to start with DT
and a new DC
lord_helmet
12-27-2006, 10:49 PM
I'd rather have Chris Hoke than anyone listed here. It's funny how 15 more tackles, an extra pick and sack and admittedly more forced fumbles are the difference between Allen being "the best in the League" and Ekuban needing to be cut. Note to wannabe NFL ends: if you have 6.5 sacks after 15 games you shouldn't be in the League; if you have 8 you're "the best.... "
Give me a DT besides Warren so our ends and LBs can make more plays. As long as the DTs can't occupy blockers or collapse the pocket and we rarely send more than one LB it doesn't matter who our ends are; with 2-3 guys to block him he's going nowhere.
No whats funny is that you're the only one mentioning Ekuban in this thread, I don't appreciate anyone putting words in my mouth. Allen is a beast right up there with Peppers and Taylor IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. I'm not saying my opinion actually matters I'm just expressing it, please go play on the freeway now.
#7fan
12-27-2006, 11:03 PM
Just knowing that he's playing against Dwight Freeney would strike fear into the hearts of all QB's who dare challenge us. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :devil:
Pandapeep
12-27-2006, 11:38 PM
Dwight Freeny is a whole lot of hooey packed into a tiny frame. Orlando Pace has shown the league how to beat him, and guess what? Most of the league listened. Besides, we have him, only cheaper, younger, tougher, and named after the freakin' king.
What we need is a big end, like Pyrce, who can hold down the line, contain and crush in. Besides, our biggest defensive problem is Coyer and his freakin' zones. Talk to me about changes when that loser is a head coach or fired.
Hansolo
12-27-2006, 11:48 PM
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What the heck is this???? :eek:
Pandapeep
12-27-2006, 11:52 PM
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What the heck is this???? :eek:
Frightening to no end, thats what.
UnderArmour
12-28-2006, 04:39 AM
I say just sign Allen with a poison pill contract and give them our first round pick as compensation. It will take a lot of money to get him here, but the salary cap is increasing by $7 mil so that can only help.
BroncoSexyDaddy
12-28-2006, 09:33 AM
I say just sign Allen with a poison pill contract and give them our first round pick as compensation. It will take a lot of money to get him here, but the salary cap is increasing by $7 mil so that can only help.Im growing impatient waiting for the draft and the offseason moves :coffee:
24SuperChamp
12-28-2006, 09:40 AM
Do we have the money to sign Freeney?
lord_helmet
12-28-2006, 09:54 AM
Do we have the money to sign Freeney?
Give one single good reason to spend a boatload of money on Freeney ? He's a one trick pony with a small frame, it was an awesome trick but the league has figured that spin move out. He's a liability in run support, countless times this season teams has converted 3rd and long against the Colts by running straight at him.
I'm holding my breath waiting for a single sensible answer to this question
UnderArmour
12-28-2006, 01:24 PM
Do we have the money to sign Freeney?
Freeney is getting Franchise tagged, which means the Colts are entitled to up to 2 first round picks in compensation.
fcspikeit
12-29-2006, 12:41 AM
If we could just pick one of the 3 I say Jared Allen hands down! He is playing amazing right now and he played for Idaho State. That really isn't important except that most Idahoans like the Broncos and seahawks. So there is a good chance he would like to play for the Broncos. I really feel the 3 positions we need the most help at are DE, CB, and HB. If we got a sack specialist it would improve our secondary tremendously! We need more of a power back that can hit the cutback lanes. I like Mike and he runs hard but he just is a little small to be truly effective in our running system. and Tatum,,, well I like his speed but he is tareable inside the tackles. He takes forever to hit tho hole. The only time he is good is when he can get outside and use his speed.
stnzed
12-29-2006, 02:08 AM
Freeney is getting Franchise tagged, which means the Colts are entitled to up to 2 first round picks in compensation.
Would you trade Ashley Lelie and George Foster for Freeney?
I would!
Think about where the Broncos have been/always will be picking.
Think about Shanahan's track record with the draft.
I'm not saying the Broncos should.....I'm just saying it's not such a bad idea!
The Broncos have got to do something! Despite what all the Guard/Safety fans say.....The Broncos main need is the D-line.
Btw Lord Helmet, as far as him being a one trick pony.....That is the one trick the Broncos need most! He's an elite player, quit lieing to yourself!
lord_helmet
12-29-2006, 04:03 AM
Btw Lord Helmet, as far as him being a one trick pony.....That is the one trick the Broncos need most! He's an elite player, quit lieing to yourself!
As I posted earlier, it seems to me that the league has figured that spin move out. Still waiting for a good reason that we should get him, in the unlikely event June gets tagged over Freeney
BroncosTX77
12-29-2006, 08:55 PM
I read these boards a ton, don't post much at all. Of the choices given to me Jared Allen is who I picked.
as someone mentioned earlier the league knows how to contain Dwight Freeney. He's had a subpar year, not good for him in a contract year. Colts will probably slap the Franchise tag on him and thats that.
Adalius Thomas of the Ravens is a Linebacker case closed next!
Which leaves Jared Allen an RFA. Y'all honestly think the Chiefs will let Allen slip away to the Broncos? Not a chance. I'm willing to bet that the Chiefs will not only offer more than anything Denver proposes, but they also throw in a subscription to ESPN The Magazine and even let him keep the lil MP3 player :P
IMHO Broncos need to go after a DT in FA or as a high draft pick. Not a Defensive End. Need that guy who can stuff the run and take up some blockers.
Free Agent DT's that arent pipe dreams
Vonnie Holliday UFA Miami
Robaire Smith UFA Tennessee
Hollis Thomas UFA New Orleans
Possible 1st Round DT Draft Picks I'd be happy with
Amobe Okoye Louisville DT
Quinn Pitcock Ohio State DT
DeMarcus Tyler NCSU DT
IF DT is satisfied through FA then my thoughts on where Denver needs to go in first round.
Michael Griffin S Texas - Great compliment and successor to Lynch
Levi Brown OT PSU - Need a mammoth to protect Cutler's blindside
Michael Bush RB Louisville - McGahee anyone? Woulda been top 5 if not injured.
lord_helmet
12-30-2006, 03:53 AM
I read these boards a ton, don't post much at all. Of the choices given to me Jared Allen is who I picked.
as someone mentioned earlier the league knows how to contain Dwight Freeney. He's had a subpar year, not good for him in a contract year. Colts will probably slap the Franchise tag on him and thats that.
Adalius Thomas of the Ravens is a Linebacker case closed next!
Which leaves Jared Allen an RFA. Y'all honestly think the Chiefs will let Allen slip away to the Broncos? Not a chance. I'm willing to bet that the Chiefs will not only offer more than anything Denver proposes, but they also throw in a subscription to ESPN The Magazine and even let him keep the lil MP3 player :P
IMHO Broncos need to go after a DT in FA or as a high draft pick. Not a Defensive End. Need that guy who can stuff the run and take up some blockers.
Free Agent DT's that arent pipe dreams
Vonnie Holliday UFA Miami
Robaire Smith UFA Tennessee
Hollis Thomas UFA New Orleans
Possible 1st Round DT Draft Picks I'd be happy with
Amobe Okoye Louisville DT
Quinn Pitcock Ohio State DT
DeMarcus Tyler NCSU DT
IF DT is satisfied through FA then my thoughts on where Denver needs to go in first round.
Michael Griffin S Texas - Great compliment and successor to Lynch
Levi Brown OT PSU - Need a mammoth to protect Cutler's blindside
Michael Bush RB Louisville - McGahee anyone? Woulda been top 5 if not injured.
Very much agree with almost everything posted here, I have an addition for the FA DT list: Terdell Sands from Oakland, the guy is worth a look based on size alone.
6'7
335
:eek:
lord_helmet
12-30-2006, 02:31 PM
I've been trying to find out more about the "Big Terd" from Oakland, what I can tell you is that the Raiders fans sound pretty desperate about getting him re-signed. They're raving about how he's a pro bowl caliber player and widely recognized as one of the strongest players in the league, not the most agile but dominant at stuffing runners and very good at getting his arms up to deflect passes on passing downs.
Definitely appears to be worth a look
Morambar
01-01-2007, 04:39 AM
No whats funny is that you're the only one mentioning Ekuban in this thread, I don't appreciate anyone putting words in my mouth. Allen is a beast right up there with Peppers and Taylor IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. I'm not saying my opinion actually matters I'm just expressing it, please go play on the freeway now.
Substitute Lang if you prefer, though he's got more sacks than Ekuban (but not more tackles; no one on our line has more tackles than Ekuban. ) Otherwise you're talking about signing a FA to be a backup, and that seems like a waste of cap space to me. You are, of course, always entitled to your own opinion with or without my consent, and I'll never question that; sorry if you felt like I was calling you out or something, I just get a little sensitive 'cos folks are always bashing ends that IMHO are pretty good. Just don't forget the famous words of the great Daniel Patrick Moynihan: "everyone's entitled to thier own opinion, but NOT their own facts.... " ;)
Morambar
01-01-2007, 04:53 AM
the more I wish I cared about college ball. Is he a realistic possibility? 'Cos, I gotta say (again... ) 19. Think about that. 19, and already 298 and a top prospect.
1) He's smart, or he wouldn't be a 19 year old senior.
2) He's a cheeseburger shy of 300, and I doubt seriously he's done growing.
3) He'll be 20 his rookie year. If he plays 'til he's 35 someone will have him for fifteen years. If he plays as long as Jim Marshall he'll be 38 when he retires. As a very sharp and big DT who can probably tell you all the best hotels in Honolulu, 'cos he's stayed at most of them. And maybe has a few Super Bowl Rings. Since we need a (couple) DTs I'd love to see him get 'em here....
lord_helmet
01-01-2007, 11:28 AM
Substitute Lang if you prefer, though he's got more sacks than Ekuban (but not more tackles; no one on our line has more tackles than Ekuban. ) Otherwise you're talking about signing a FA to be a backup, and that seems like a waste of cap space to me. You are, of course, always entitled to your own opinion with or without my consent, and I'll never question that; sorry if you felt like I was calling you out or something, I just get a little sensitive 'cos folks are always bashing ends that IMHO are pretty good. Just don't forget the famous words of the great Daniel Patrick Moynihan: "everyone's entitled to thier own opinion, but NOT their own facts.... " ;)
I have nothing against our ends, would I like to see a worldclass end take over ? Of course. Do I believe that will happen ? Certainly not. But its all good, hatchet is officially buried
:beer:
Hipfan333
01-01-2007, 11:28 AM
I read these boards a ton, don't post much at all. Of the choices given to me Jared Allen is who I picked.
as someone mentioned earlier the league knows how to contain Dwight Freeney. He's had a subpar year, not good for him in a contract year. Colts will probably slap the Franchise tag on him and thats that.
Adalius Thomas of the Ravens is a Linebacker case closed next!
Which leaves Jared Allen an RFA. Y'all honestly think the Chiefs will let Allen slip away to the Broncos? Not a chance. I'm willing to bet that the Chiefs will not only offer more than anything Denver proposes, but they also throw in a subscription to ESPN The Magazine and even let him keep the lil MP3 player :P
IMHO Broncos need to go after a DT in FA or as a high draft pick. Not a Defensive End. Need that guy who can stuff the run and take up some blockers.
Free Agent DT's that arent pipe dreams
Vonnie Holliday UFA Miami
Robaire Smith UFA Tennessee
Hollis Thomas UFA New Orleans
Possible 1st Round DT Draft Picks I'd be happy with
Amobe Okoye Louisville DT
Quinn Pitcock Ohio State DT
DeMarcus Tyler NCSU DT
IF DT is satisfied through FA then my thoughts on where Denver needs to go in first round.
Michael Griffin S Texas - Great compliment and successor to Lynch
Levi Brown OT PSU - Need a mammoth to protect Cutler's blindside
Michael Bush RB Louisville - McGahee anyone? Woulda been top 5 if not injured.
I can't agree with you more on your entire quote.
Miami will be having money problems this off year and Holliday SHOULD be available too! As well, I could easily be happy if Denver drafted Brown - they need another OT as all of the other experiments (Pears, Foster, Meadows) have failed.
the more I wish I cared about college ball. Is he a realistic possibility? 'Cos, I gotta say (again... ) 19. Think about that. 19, and already 298 and a top prospect.
1) He's smart, or he wouldn't be a 19 year old senior.
2) He's a cheeseburger shy of 300, and I doubt seriously he's done growing.
3) He'll be 20 his rookie year. If he plays 'til he's 35 someone will have him for fifteen years. If he plays as long as Jim Marshall he'll be 38 when he retires. As a very sharp and big DT who can probably tell you all the best hotels in Honolulu, 'cos he's stayed at most of them. And maybe has a few Super Bowl Rings. Since we need a (couple) DTs I'd love to see him get 'em here....
I don't know the draft as well as a lot of people here, but if all the junior DT prospects come out then it looks like we could have a very good chance to get him. I'd love that. He sounds like a great prospect for us.
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