The Number 27 Should Be Retired (merged)

[Jamal]

I'm all for this move.I just don't wanna see anyone ever wear this jersey again....Man i loved Darrent.

[*Atwater*]

I'm all for this move.I just don't wanna see anyone ever wear this jersey again....Man i loved Darrent.
I agree with you.

[Lorcust]

Steve Atwater, Darrent Williams... Yep, I couldn't imagine someone else in #27, not without remembering Darrent.

I don't know, I thought about it. It seems legit as an option.

[stickyicky420]

i like the idea it would be nice for his family

[BroncoBJ4MVP!!!]

I agree!
so many threads on Darrent Williams today also and its Well Deserved!
this is a SICK WORLD!

and its getting light out!
UGH!
im out!

I LOVE YA DARRENT!
RIP!

[Emancipator]

I don't think they will, but they'll find another great way to honor him. :salute:

[Snk16]

It's a great gesture, but for one, I don't think he was the best player around here, and his play doesn't warrent that. And we can't just retire the jerseys of every single player who dies off the field, no matter how tragic, just because of that. Unless it was for something noble (a la Roberto Clemente), I don't think it should be retired.

If it's going to be retired, do it for Atwater, not him.

[Jamal]

It's a great gesture, but for one, I don't think he was the best player around here, and his play doesn't warrent that. And we can't just retire the jerseys of every single player who dies off the field, no matter how tragic, just because of that. Unless it was for something noble (a la Roberto Clemente), I don't think it should be retired.

If it's going to be retired, do it for Atwater, not him.

Listen man,if its going to be retired dont say do it only for Atwater.Do it for the both of them.

[champbronc2]

I agree as well.

Such a sad thing. :(:(:(

[champbronc2]

It's a great gesture, but for one, I don't think he was the best player around here, and his play doesn't warrant that. And we can't just retire the jerseys of every single player who dies off the field, no matter how tragic, just because of that. Unless it was for something noble (a la Roberto Clemente), I don't think it should be retired.

If it's going to be retired, do it for Atwater, not him.
Snk you are very respectable but this doesn't happen very often.

It is out of sheer respect. Do it for both.

[Emancipator]

Nice gesture and thread.

Let's not debate it because it will lead to debating his performance on a day of his death. That would be demeaning to the young man.

May he rest in peace without us fighting.

[broncoinatlanta]

anybody find out who the other two victims were or whether they died? just crazy that on new years morning one has to wake up to this....seems like a nightmare

[Jaws]

anybody find out who the other two victims were or whether they died? just crazy that on new years morning one has to wake up to this....seems like a nightmare

The last I heard there was just the one fatality. I haven't heard anything about the condition of the two other victims.

[CB123]

I agree, do it for both of them. I just can't think of anyone else wearing that jersey from now on... it would be too eerie for me. :ugh:

[Nomad Broncofan]

It's a great gesture, but for one, I don't think he was the best player around here, and his play doesn't warrent that. And we can't just retire the jerseys of every single player who dies off the field, no matter how tragic, just because of that. Unless it was for something noble (a la Roberto Clemente), I don't think it should be retired.

If it's going to be retired, do it for Atwater, not him.


I agree. A retired jersey is for players who show it on the field. I feel bad DW had to go the way he did but athletes have a huge target on their backs every day and I hope this shooting isn't in spite of his performance!

I don't think disagreeing his number to be retired will disrespect DW. As long as it is civil.

[Morambar]

And agree it should be for both, because Atwater was a huge part of this team when he played as well. Others may disagree and needn't feel guilty about it.

[VADER72]

What about instead of retiring the #, they have a flag waving at the top of the staduim in rememberance of him, especially during the games. With his # and name?

[broncophan]

What about instead of retiring the #, they have a flag waving at the top of the staduim in rememberance of him, especially during the games. With his # and name?

That's a good idea......you would think they would have some sort of permanent memorial for him...........

[Elway1983]

i like the idea it would be nice for his family



I agree, great answer. :salute:

[plummer4presdnt]

I'm all for this move.I just don't wanna see anyone ever wear this jersey again....Man i loved Darrent.


The potential he had and the way he was struck down is why this should happen, just like Korey Stringer retire it

[BigJuan]

he was such good friends with foxy, champ, and paymah could you see any of them wanting to switch out of respect

[JoRo]

I think it should be, and quite simply I dont see a reason not to. It is not like the number would make it impossible for backs to choose they got about a million.

And honestly Darrent deserves it.

[Bronco4l1fe]

he was such good friends with foxy, champ, and paymah could you see any of them wanting to switch out of respect
Nope they have their own legacy and such. I think they have the respect and such for him but would not change numbers. You know that ALL the broncos helmet will have his number next year which I think will help as well. I think that jersey should be retired, because of the great players that have worn it. This is such a sad story I am so bummed about it. :hurt:

[Walker84]

I say put Dwill right beside Atwater.

[tnedator]

I agree!
so many threads on Darrent Williams today also and its Well Deserved!
this is a SICK WORLD!


Yes, so many threads. I'm sure many by the same imbecilic morons that have been saying all kinds of awful things about him all year.

[Drunk Bronco]

I'm all for this move.I just don't wanna see anyone ever wear this jersey again....Man i loved Darrent.me 2 man...

[Broncos72690]

If I saw another 27, he's what I would think about.

[Road_Apples]

The logistics of retiring a number has to weighed carefully against the limited quantity of numbers. It is a decision not to be taken lightly. Although this tragedy hits us hard, the longer term is what matters most. I suggest a Bronze Statue Memorial at the main entrance with a plaque describing his stats, or personal achievements- but not the way in which he died (which would glorify the despicable deed) in which most pass by going to the game would better serve it's purpose than retiring a valuable number. #84 should be retired if anything, but it must take something incredibly special to do that: like #7!

Not a good beginning for the New Year for the Williams family, and the most important thing is that they are looked after, and I am certain the Bronco Organization will do that admirably. Time can heal wounds. We all need some of that right about now.

[sbutk]

It's a great gesture, but for one, I don't think he was the best player around here, and his play doesn't warrent that. And we can't just retire the jerseys of every single player who dies off the field, no matter how tragic, just because of that. Unless it was for something noble (a la Roberto Clemente), I don't think it should be retired.

If it's going to be retired, do it for Atwater, not him.


I think you're a little confused. Well, I don't actually mean confused - maybe moreso misguided. We're not saying anything like he should get into the HOF (for his play). Yes, that'd be unwarranted. Shouldn't even be considered here. But rather, to say simply that no Denver Bronco should ever wear #27 again. Think about it, would you want to be a new player coming in and being able to say: I'm wearing the uniform of a guy who no longer plays for this team because he was murdered? Maybe it's only me, but that would make me feel really, really weird. I hear what you're saying about former Broncos dying: of course that's going to happen as years go by, and if you retired all their numbers you'd be left with nothing. But these circumstances are vastly different. D.W. died while still in posession of that uniform number. He deserves to be honored, to be commemorated. ...And for the record, I'd feel the same about the number of Carswell, if he had succumed after his ordeal.

R.I.P., Darrent Williams. Retired number or not, you will forever be a Broncos legend.


:salute:

[Drunk Bronco]

YES-nuff said

[D Williams 27]

I'm all for this move.I just don't wanna see anyone ever wear this jersey again....Man i loved Darrent.I absolutely agree

[Mr. T]

He'll get a memorial I'm sure...but they should retire number 27 as well. But for both Atwater and Darrent.

That's what I'd want...

[BigBroncLove]

There is certienly precedence for retiring a number not for having a long and great career, but for leaving a team in such a tragic manner.

The Cleveland Browns owner Art Model (one of the greatest owners in league history IMO) acquired a young talent by the name of Ernie Davis in the 1962 draft. Ernie Davis was a great looking back, and many said he would top the league's greatest RB at the time, Jim Brown. He played an amazing pre-season game in 1962, but would never play a regular season league game. That year he was diagnosed with leukemia. The Browns organization went to great lengths to keep Davis's battle with cancer private but in 1963 he lost his battle and in response Art Model (who had also grown very close to the bright, talented, and grounded young man) retired his number despite the fact that he never played a regular season game.

Darrent deserves no less. His death is a tragedy to us all, not only because of how shocking this crime is, but also because of his talent, enthusiasm, poise, and personality. I believe no other Bronco should ever wear D. Williams jersey, he was a truely unique and promising young talent to the Bronco organization. He came in week in and week out and gave his body and heart to the Bronco team and fans... always playing every play out with the vigor and determination of a true competitor. We as fans and the Bronco organization owe Williams a debt that we can now never fully repay... this is the least we can do....

[His Wife]

I'm all for this move.I just don't wanna see anyone ever wear this jersey again....Man i loved Darrent.

I completely agree with you, Jamal. Let's hope they retire his jersey! ;)

[Chidoze]

I'm sure the organization will find a very fittiing way to honor him. I am just beside myself with grief right now. I cant believe this happened. I'll miss you DWill. Words cannot describe the sadness that exists in Broncomania today.

Forever in our hearts. #27 Darrent Williams.

[Marshall#15]

I think this should definetly be done, but I'm not too sure if his play over the years deserve a jersey retirement. He was a great player, a great person, and a great father. I think he should get the number retired and if not just for him, retire it for him and Atwater.

RIP Darrent. :salute:

[Snk16]

I don't feel like debating the subject, as it is a very solemn occasion, and it would be very poor of me.

So my last comment will be:

The only other Bronco number retired was "7" by John Elway. Retiring numbers is for on the field stuff, and then by retiring numbers for everything, and you'll eventually run out of numbers. I think that they should definetly find a way to remember him, like putting his number on their uniforms or something like Jake did for Tillman.

[sbutk]

I think this should definetly be done, but I'm not too sure if his play over the years deserve a jersey retirement. He was a great player, a great person, and a great father. I think he should get the number retired and if not just for him, retire it for him and Atwater.

RIP Darrent. :salute:



Concurred. That seems to be what 98% of the posters in this thread are saying, too.

In such a case, Darrent's play does not even need to enter the equation.

[broncos_mtnman]

I don't feel like debating the subject, as it is a very solemn occasion, and it would be very poor of me.

So my last comment will be:

The only other Bronco number retired was "7" by John Elway. Retiring numbers is for on the field stuff, and then by retiring numbers for everything, and you'll eventually run out of numbers. I think that they should definetly find a way to remember him, like putting his number on their uniforms or something like Jake did for Tillman.

I agree with you, Snk16.

This was very tragic, but to retire his number would be an over-reaction.

I say we petition the NFL to wear the #27 on our uniforms next season.

[broncosfan247]

For as tragic as it may have been, I just don't see retiring #27 is warranted. Give me heat for being insensitive, but I just don't see it. If Terrell Davis, Shannon Sharpe, Rod Smith, or even Steve Atwaters numbers are not going to be retired, I just can't see Williams number being retired. Maybe putting his name on the ring of fame or building some kind of memorial I would totally agree with, but retiring a number is like the ultimate honor. I mean over the 40+ years of the franchise being around they have only retired 3 numbers.

[phycha62]

I think out of respect his jersey should be retired! What do you all think? :D

[JerseyAdam]

yeah, it should be retired "twice" atwater too.

[Rollo]

should we retire it? i think we should

[quiksilverkid13]

I think so. This was no average player. He gave this team all he had every week.

It's not that I don't think any player could live up to what Darrent Williams was, but I think it's a matter of respect and tribute, just like its a matter of respect and tribute with Elway and other players.

[ThunderGirl]

I asked the same question earlier and I think they should.

[Bronco Micah]

I agree as well, they need to retire his number. I doubt that any person could wear his number and play at the level he did with such poise and love. :(

[BrandonMarshall]

I can't imagine seeing another person wearing his #. Just like I couldn't imagine Mike Bell wearing # 30, I am glad Bell decided to change.

[Orange and Blue]

Yes we should as a tribute

R.I.P. D-Will :salute:

[ClaptonFloyd]

I think it would be best.

[broncofan428]

Steve Atwater, Darrent Williams... Yep, I couldn't imagine someone else in #27, not without remembering Darrent.

I don't know, I thought about it. It seems legit as an option.

Here Here
D-Will and Atwater

No one else should ever put that Jersey on again

D-Will the Williams family and the Denver Broncos Orginization my heart goes out to you and cries for you in your time of need

[BF_forever]

It should be retired

[The Dyna$ty]

I have a feeling they will.

Seeing another player from the broncos where 27 would jus be odd and un-cool.

[portis26hb]

I as a bronco fan never want to see this number worn by anyone ever again. I will email anyone I can in the broncos offices and send letters to anyone I can to be heard and to get this # retired.

[ReggieBush25]

I certainly think the number should be retired, sooner rather than later too.

[fraguela09]

Even to this day Thurm Munson's locker is left empty in Yankee clubhouse. I think Denver should do the same thing... Obviously, Darrent has yet to clear his locker out... DON'T TOUCH IT. Leave it just the way it is... That locker is now Darrent's forever and evermore!!!

[Tatum_26]

Wanna start a sign here thing for it?

[gluva1989]

they should retire the number, leave his locker as it is...and maybe even name some part of invesco filed after darrent..maybe the darrent williams corner or something like that?

[SeeingRed]

I don't really tend to get too sentimental over things like this because my heart lies in other places, but earlier when I first heard about this and was first thinking about it, it occured to me that Derrent Williams wore #27. Pat Bowlen made the mistake of not retiring this number for Steve Atwater, one of the greatest Broncos ever. Williams' career in Denver was, unfortunately, short lived, and he didn't accomplish a whole lot, but he was a good player for our team and deserves to be remembered as a Bronco. Retire #27 for Derrent Williams. :salute: :salute: :salute:

[Ravage!!!]

I don't really tend to get too sentimental over things like this because my heart lies in other places, but earlier when I first heard about this and was first thinking about it, it occured to me that Derrent Williams wore #27. Pat Bowlen made the mistake of not retiring this number for Steve Atwater, one of the greatest Broncos ever. Williams' career in Denver was, unfortunately, short lived, and he didn't accomplish a whole lot, but he was a good player for our team and deserves to be remembered as a Bronco. Retire #27 for Derrent Williams. :salute: :salute: :salute:

I respect your sentiments... but I don't feel a retirement of the number is appropriate. RIP Darrant

[SeeingRed]

I don't either, but something just struck me that made it seem appropriate.

[MarvinWillis]

I don't either, but something just struck me that made it seem appropriate.
But a great player wore the jersey too. :smug:

[Darrent4eva]

Atwater was good.

But we didnt get to see the best of Lil' D. Retire it for Darrent.

[Geandily]

Atwater was good.

But we didnt get to see the best of Lil' D. Retire it for Darrent.

Agreed, retire the number for Darrent.

[Rob191288]

I agree too 27 should be retired, 2 great bronco players have worn the number and i think that should be it. Everytime i see the number 27 now im gonna think of darrent, it would not feel right to see another bronco player in that number

[JoKeRsGFX]

I think it should be retired. If any player is killed in this manner it should end with no less I think if Ben Rothesberger would have died on his motorcycle it would have retired #7 for Pittsburgh and also should be honored with the ring of fame so he is never forgoten all my prays goto D-Wills family RIP D-Will

[Britrock]

Maybe not retire it completely, but at least take it out of service for a good few years.

[Tatum_26]

If they don't retire it... Who would take that number anyways? If Pat Bowlen doesn't retire it, I say the players come together and decide not to let anyone wear it.

[Smokey Vols]

Im a Titan but I really think they should retire it

it would be a fitting end to a rising stars life...

[slr777]

Maybe not retire it completely, but at least take it out of service for a good few years.


Well thats a tuff call will always think of Derrent and Atwater. If they do not retire it I am sure it will be out of service for a few years.

[SmithOverTO]

Or if not that, put him into the Ring of Fame

[AlWilsonizKING]

As much as I feel for Darrent and his family. Retireing it for only Williams is saying Atwater meant nothing to this team. I mean we traded him away in his final year only to bring him back to "retire as a Bronco." Now you want to retire the number 27 for a 2nd year corner who didn't really accomplish anything major.... :confused:

I say retire it for BOTH The time and play Atwater gave the Broncos.....and IN MEMORY of Williams.

You can't take away from Atwaters accomplishments because of this tragity



PEACE!!!

[jacob623]

They probably won't, but given that it should have been retired for Atwater and now with Darrent having worn it, it should be retired. I agree with whoever said it wouldn't feel right to see someone else wearing number 27. It just wouldn't.

[TheMastermind]

I think nobody should be able to wear that number anymore.....

I thought it should have been retired with Atwater wearing it.....but even MORE now with the loss of Darrent Williams.....

I'll admit....when Darrent first took that number I was like "what the heck?!".....but it did not take long (the second game of last year against the Chargers) for me to realize he was well deserving of the number.....

I don't think anybody should deserve to wear that number anymore because of how IMPORTANT the number is to Bronco fans..... :salute:

[Anti_KC_choklnd]

I agree...It has a lot of meaning now, because of Atwater of our greatest, and Darrent one of our greatest.

[TD#30]

I agree...It has a lot of meaning now, because of Atwater of our greatest, and Darrent one of our greatest.
agreed, perfectly said

[SeeingRed]

As much as I feel for Darrent and his family. Retireing it for only Williams is saying Atwater meant nothing to this team. I mean we traded him away in his final year only to bring him back to "retire as a Bronco." Now you want to retire the number 27 for a 2nd year corner who didn't really accomplish anything major.... :confused:

I say retire it for BOTH The time and play Atwater gave the Broncos.....and IN MEMORY of Williams.

You can't take away from Atwaters accomplishments because of this tragity



PEACE!!!

How many years has it been since Atwater retired? If Bowlen hasn't retired #27 for Atwater by now, he's not going to. Like I said, Atwater was one of the best, most mean Bronco players any of us have seen, but the number is still available and needs to be hung up in memory of DWill not because of his accomplishments, but because he ultimately sacraficed his life for this team.

[SeeingRed]

I agree...It has a lot of meaning now, because of Atwater of our greatest, and Darrent one of our greatest.

I don't think Derrent was one of our greatest, but this is a repost. ;)

[bestkeeper_14]

I definitely think that it should be retired, or at least the ring of fame. Atwater was great but we must remember this tragic loss :salute:

[greatestfan67]

I would ask everyone to sign this thread and support the retiring of Darrent's #27.

I realize this number was acquired from another great player for the Broncos, Steve Atwater.

But I believe that the Bronco's organization should retire this number because of what this great young man gave to this organization and what I believe he would have continued to give for many years to come.

His personality and humbleness remind me of Rod Smith, his drive reminds me John Elway, the old Orange Crush, his work ethics were admirable in such a young man, a young man who not so many years before had the choice of what direction he wanted for his life and who chose to make it a good direction. He strove to become the best and I think time would have made his dream come true.

Please support me in trying to get the Bronco organization to retire the #27 for eternity.

Thanks.

[bigrick13]

ya i had the same thing in mind i couldnt see anyone else wearing his jersey

[Tatum_26]

James Rooney

R.I.P. D-Will

[dandaman23]

I dont think the jersey will get retired but I think it would be a good tribute if Champ or Dominique wore #27 next season..

[Bronco Bunny]

Out of respect for Darrent and his family, I think the Broncos need to retire #27 at 2007 season home opener. He will be missed by many, but it would sure be nice to see his name and number on the ring of fame at Invesco Field. It would help if more people would write in about this so maybe, we could make it happen?

[CJ_5256]

Yes for sure, so that everyone remembers this guy as long as the Denver Broncos are around...I think it would be the right thing to do.....

[Tatum_26]

You know that there is another big thread about this?

[Tatum_26]

nvm it got moved...

[runnerg26]

27 should never be worn again.

[lsfii2]

This is a close one. Does he really deserve to have his jersey retired? I thought it over and came to the conclusion that it would be a nice memory of him. He was a great man and I am all for retiring the #27. I just couldnt see anyone else wearing the number.

[VADER72]

Ok heres my take. Never understtod why Ray Bourque's # got retired after 1 year with the Ave's. So I say #27 should be ok just after 2 years.

[iverssson]

There is precedent on retiring a number because of an off-field death....the most recent example is Pat Tillman.

However what Pat Tillman died for was arguably more "important". Darrent meant a lot to the team, family and the community no doubt, as did Tillman. Tillman's actions was above and beyond that of DW, for being a patriot and being selfless.

Perhaps its apples and oranges, but I don't see #27 being retired to DW.

FWI--
Current Bronco Retired Numbers:
John Elway – #7
Frank Tripucka – #18
Floyd Little – #44

Current Bronco Ring of Fame:
23 Goose Gonsoulin, S, 1960-66, inducted 1984
44 Floyd Little, RB, 1967-75, inducted 1984
87 Lionel Taylor, WR, 1960-66, inducted 1984
71 Tom casesse,CB, 1976-79, inducted 1984
87 Rich Jackson, DE, 1967-72, inducted 1984
Gerald Phipps, team owner, 1961-81, inducted 1985
12 Charley Johnson, QB, 1972-75, inducted 1986
18 Frank Tripucka, QB, 1960-63, inducted 1986
70 Paul Smith, DE, 1968-78, inducted 1986
36 Billy Thompson, CB, 1969-81, inducted 1987
7 Craig Morton, QB, 1977-82, inducted 1988
15 Jim Turner, K, 1971-79, inducted 1988
25 Haven Moses, WR, 1972-81, inducted 1988
53 Randy Gradishar, LB, 1976-83, inducted 1989
57 Tom Jackson, LB, 1973-86, inducted 1992
20 Louis Wright, S, 1975-86, inducted 1993
7 John Elway, QB, 1983-98, inducted 1999
49 Dennis Smith, S, 1981-94, inducted 2001
77 Karl Mecklenburg, LB, 1983-95, inducted 2001
65 Gary Zimmerman, OT, 1993-97, inducted 2003

***27 Steve Atwater, S, 1989-98, inducted 2005

[JWinn]

Bumping.....

[dmoney27]

i agree i will be very sad if someone comes and wears the number 27. it showed be retired.

[D_Williams27]

I'm all for this move.I just don't wanna see anyone ever wear this jersey again....Man i loved Darrent.

i agree with this also. Darrent was special

[BlackFire89]

I agree.

#27 should be retired for both Atwater & Williams.

[azBRONCOSaz]

do players pick their numbers (from what #'s are available), or are they assigned #'s? i know that if i was an incoming rookie/FA i would not want to wear the # of a former player that was killed in a random act of violence.

[Ravage!!!]

do players pick their numbers (from what #'s are available), or are they assigned #'s? i know that if i was an incoming rookie/FA i would not want to wear the # of a former player that was killed in a random act of violence.

I guess I'll stand up and be the bad guy here. Yes, players pick their numbers if they are available. Thats why you see some big FA or draft choices "buy" the number from another player if it was already chosen.

I do NOT think #27 should be retired. This disasterous event happened to a great guy, but that doesn't mean his number deserves to be retired. Perhaps, it shouldn't be assigned to someone NEXT season(2007), but in 2008 expect to see it being used and worn. You can't blame the organization and you can't blame the player that wears it. Darrant chose to wear a HoF number and beloved icon of the Broncos, and no one held it against him. You certainly could not blame the next guy. The team will move on. The fans will move on. Darrent's tragedy will never be forgotten, and there are a lot more ways to give tribute OTHER than retiring his number.

You can't just retire any number and all numbers to great players, or great people. We can't say that the death of one player on our team, is any greater than the tragedies that happen to other players on other teams. The guy that died a few years ago in Minnesota because of the heat and aphedra, his number wasn't retired. GREAT players that have retired and are in teh HoF, have died and their numbers are NOT retired. People have died from tragic cancers, heart attacks, aneurisms, car wrecks, drug overdoses, and just lingering ill effects from years in the NFL. Thats part of life. Death is a part of life.

I know that many of you are reacting to the tragedy that just has been thrust upon us...but the fact is that if Darrent wasn't killed, he would never have his number retired (after all, Atwater had that number first). So you are saying that his death, after two years with this team, is MORE important to the organization than the lifetime of years that so many players who put their heart and soul into and onto our home field. I'm sorry for Darrent's passing, but I just don't believe thats the case, imo.

[sbutk]

I agree too 27 should be retired, 2 great bronco players have worn the number and i think that should be it. Everytime i see the number 27 now im gonna think of darrent, it would not feel right to see another bronco player in that number


It most certainly would not, you're right.

...Heck, if they don't retire it, the players themselves should take it upon themselves to make sure every rookie/F.A. who comes in refuses to take it.


:huh:

[sbutk]

If they don't retire it... Who would take that number anyways? If Pat Bowlen doesn't retire it, I say the players come together and decide not to let anyone wear it.


Exactly. Sorry, I didn't see your post before making mine.

[VADER72]

I still think instead of retiring #27, there could be a flag waving in the wind at the top of the stadium and all it needs to say is #27 Darrent Williams. That's enough I think.

[eaglebronco]

There should be no retiring a number.

[JoKeRsGFX]

They should retire it because it wouldnt feel right to see any other bronco player to wear it either that or I would like champ to change his number to 27 in thoughts of darrent and to show off his number like darrent would have if he could have played his career out. The honor it would be to have champ wear his number is HUGE. RIP D-Will

[laxcat9]

I agree. It would be a nice gesture for his family.

[vectorscg]

I have established this thread to ask Mr Bowlen on behalf of BroncoNation to retire Darrent's jersey and to induct him in the Ring of Fame.
Please sign by posting additional messages.

We will also have paper petitions on Saturday at the Fan Vigil and Memorial.


Dear Mr. Bowlen,

As a citizen of BroncoNation I humbly ask you on behalf of all Broncos fans everywhere to put aside the normal rules you have on inducting people in the Ring of Fame and allow Darrent to be honored and immortalized forever.

We also ask you to retire the #27 jersey number so that we can with the exception of Steve Atwater always picture Darrent in the number 27.

[vectorscg]

Everyone please post on this so we can make this one of the top posts. We need to make this happen as fans and citizens of BroncoNation!

[Babe]

....."As a citizen of BroncoNation I humbly ask you on behalf of all Broncos fans everywhere to put aside the normal rules you have on inducting people in the Ring of Fame and allow Darrent to be honored and immortalized forever"



not to be nosy or anything but how about......

Please allow this petition with the signatures below to serve as a request to put aside the normal rules you have on inducting people in the Ring of Fame and/or retiring their number. We would like Darrent to be honored and immortalized in a fashion that will also give understanding to the fact that the number 27 was Steve Atwater's number. Thank you.


I don't know...something more general. There is a matter of being careful of who/whom we are speaking "for".

I hope that makes sense...
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[eaglebronco]

I am a Bronco fan that lives in Colorado and a member of all these forums but I do not want to see that number retired. Darrent would not want it retired either I betcha.

[orangeblossom94]

I want him in the Ring of Fame....to be honest, I don't think anyone else will necessarily want to wear the # ever again b/c of the connotations of the number.

[Kyla5999]

I totally agree!!! It in my opinion is the right thing to do!!!!!!!

I loved Darrent. One of the good guys! :sad:
We miss you Darrent. :salute:

[BarkdogRX7]

Agreed, I don't think anyone WOULD wear it out of respect to Darrent. No one needs to retire it though, cause in 10 years a new generation of Bronco fans will wonder why the hell we retired the # for a guy who played 16 games...

[sethkia]

I really feel in my heart that the Denver Broncos need to retire number 27 in honor of Williams who was a great person and player and deserves to have the respect of no other person wearing his number.

[2 Minute Warning]

Welcome, some others agree as well.
And some disagree.

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=81645&highlight=retire

[Denver Native]

I really feel in my heart that the Denver Broncos need to retire number 27 in honor of Williams who was a great person and player and deserves to have the respect of no other person wearing his number.

There was talk on AM950THEFAN about this, and what Scott Hastings and Alfred Williams thought would be fitting was like a dual retirement of the number - both for Darrent and also Steve Atwater.

[The Executioner]

It's a great gesture, but for one, I don't think he was the best player around here, and his play doesn't warrent that. And we can't just retire the jerseys of every single player who dies off the field, no matter how tragic, just because of that. Unless it was for something noble (a la Roberto Clemente), I don't think it should be retired.

If it's going to be retired, do it for Atwater, not him.

I agree with you snake boy, I love DWill but he doesnt deserve the number 27 retired just because he was slain. Should we add him to the ring of famer? I kinda agree with that, but retire his jersey? :nono:

RIP DWill

[2 Minute Warning]

Sorry.........Dumb question but what usually happens if a player dies? :confused:
Just trying to find a happy medium here. :)

[Broncos Fan 29]

I agree, I think the Broncos should retire # 27. It wouldn't be right for somebody else to wear that jersey.

[Den21-Bal19]

Personally, I think #27 should have been retired with Steve Atwater, but it should definitely be retired now.

As a club, Denver have been very choosy over which numbers have been retired, is it 4/5 that have been retired, so from a logistical point of view it isn't a problem, and thankfully occurences like Darrent's untimely death are few and far between in the league in general, so I think it would be a fitting tribute

edit: ~ just checked, Denver's retired 3 numbers, #7 Elway, #18 Tripucka & #44 Little.

[Den21-Bal19]

Sorry.........Dumb question but what usually happens if a player dies? :confused:
Just trying to find a happy medium here. :)

I was just wondering the same thing.

Having looked at the OS, Minnesota retired #77 for Korey Stringer, but San Francisco didn't retire Heron's shirt, so I don't think there's any set format (thankfully)

[MissinMcCaffery]

I agree with the dual retirement of the jersey.

"Darrent, I will never forget you. Thanks for your talent and your smile. Peace"

[Denver Native]

I agree with the dual retirement of the jersey.

"Darrent, I will never forget you. Thanks for your talent and your smile. Peace"

I also totally agree with the dual retirement - both for Steve Atwater & Darrent.

[ronco06]

It Is My Opinion That The Broncos Should Next Season Retire #27 In Darrents Honor. Just As They Retired John Elways #7. I Think It Would Help With The Healing Of This Senseless And Tragic Loss. Darrent Williams Was A Once And A Lifetime Individual, And This Would Imortalize His Life And The Way He Lived. Its Just My Opinion, But If You Agree Then Spread The Word, And May The Person Or Persons Who Ended His Life Pay For What They Have Done.

[Babe]

hey ron....
there is a thread on this already......

the title begins with "sign here if you want...........
it's lower on the page.....
it has 5 stars....


you may wish to repost there too..

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[cnickel84]

I believe it should be retired for both Darrent and Atwater. Both were exceptional players for the Broncos. As of now, even if they do not retire it, who would want to wear the number now? Kinda like with #30. Nobody wears it now because of the relation with T.D.