What to do with Jake?

[Ferryboat63]

What do you think the Broncos are going to do with Jake? The way I see it they really have 3 options:
1. Trade Jake to a team(like the bears, he is bad, but not as bad a Grossman) for a draft pick, possibly anywhere from the 2nd-4th round? And use it to draft a pretty good player they feel can help the team.

2. Trade Jake(possibly Tatum with him) to a team for a Corner Back, to replace the recent loss of Darrent Williams, may he rest in peace.

3. Keep Jake as the holder for Field goals and Extra points, he could possibly help Cutler develop even more. . . as long as he doesn't say it is better to just throw it away from the orange and Blue when under pressure. . .

What do you guys think the Broncos will do with him? If there are more likely options, please state them.
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Rest In peace Darrent Williams

[MindField]

What do you think the Broncos are going to do with Jake? The way I see it they really have 3 options:
1. Trade Jake to a team(like the bears, he is bad, but not as bad a Grossman) for a draft pick, possibly anywhere from the 2nd-4th round? And use it to draft a pretty good player they feel can help the team.

2. Trade Jake(possibly Tatum with him) to a team for a Corner Back, to replace the recent loss of Darrent Williams, may he rest in peace.

3. Keep Jake as the holder for Field goals and Extra points, he could possibly help Cutler develop even more. . . as long as he doesn't say it is better to just throw it away from the orange and Blue when under pressure. . .

What do you guys think the Broncos will do with him? If there are more likely options, please state them.
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Rest In peace Darrent Williams

I still hold out hope there is a market to trade Jake on...

There are several Coaches that will have to win next year, that have bad QB situations, and Jake will look like an improvement to them (ala the Browns, Vikings, etc)...so we'll see. I just continue to hold out hope there is a home for Jake somewhere else on the trade market.....it only takes one team :salute:

Same with George Foster (to the Texans for their 4th rounder?)...
Same with Tatum Bell ( can we get a second or third for him?)...

...and if I am really lucky, the Broncos will deal Ian Gold's carcass as well. Rarely has their been a more over-rated Bronco than Gold. He would look good in Bear colors if Lance Briggs leaves in free agency.

[Charlie Brown]

There are several Coaches that will have to win next year, that have bad QB situations, and Jake will look like an improvement to them (ala the Browns, Vikings, etc)...so we'll see.

Hell no.

Tim Couch > Jake Plummer

I hate Couch ergo, I do not want Plummer.

Plummer would be a horrific mistake by Savage. Crennel has no control over the GM. So, no matter what Crennel thinks of a guy Savage has the final say. Crennel can offer advice on who he would like, but choosing that player is up to Savage.

Jake Plummer would be an idiotic move. The Browns merely need to get rid of Dorsey as he hasn't done squat. Anderson has done fairly well in relief of Frye. All the Browns need is a veteran backup. Plummer has an ego about him and I do not like that. I have no interest whatsoever in him.

[MindField]

Hell no.

Tim Couch > Jake Plummer

I hate Couch ergo, I do not want Plummer.

Plummer would be a horrific mistake by Savage. Crennel has no control over the GM. So, no matter what Crennel thinks of a guy Savage has the final say. Crennel can offer advice on who he would like, but choosing that player is up to Savage.

Jake Plummer would be an idiotic move. The Browns merely need to get rid of Dorsey as he hasn't done squat. Anderson has done fairly well in relief of Frye. All the Browns need is a veteran backup. Plummer has an ego about him and I do not like that. I have no interest whatsoever in him.


Tim Couch does not matter. He is out of the NFL.

Crennel's future right now hangs on Charlie Frye, and I am sorry, but Jake Plummer is better than Frye...

Desparate teams sometimes do desparate things....

[22cannon]

Plummer may get a good look from Tampa Bay. I was reading an article were Gruden kept saying that he needed a consistant starter (even though they just extended Simms contract) from game to game.

Jake is an Iron Man - He doesn't (cross fingers) get injured often.

[Charlie Brown]

Tim Couch does not matter. He is out of the NFL.

Crennel's future right now hangs on Charlie Frye, and I am sorry, but Jake Plummer is better than Frye...

Desparate teams sometimes do desparate things....

Like ignoring the team's needs.

GREAT IDEA.

The Browns need an offensive line. Not another QB. I can't believe people are so blind they can't see that. Like these jerks saying the Browns should draft Quinn because his dad is/was a Browns fan. I don't give a hoot about who Quinn wants to play for. He'll play for who drafts him, whether he likes it or not. My personal hope is that the Raiders draft him and he can rot there. Plummer does not help the Browns unless he picks up 250+ pounds and learns to play offensive line. I highly doubt a QB can make a position shift to OL, so Plummer would be an idiotic choice.

[22cannon]

If the Browns thought an O-line was important Couch still might be able to play football.

[Charlie Brown]

If the Browns thought an O-line was important Couch still might be able to play football.

Blame Butch Davis for that.

If Savage was smart and knew what was good for the team he would address the OL. Frye is not the problem. The problem is the offensive line. Tucker is having his 'mental problems' and is aging. Coleman is average at best and Andruzzi is too old and slow.

[22cannon]

The browns could have a whole new line from center to the right tackle next year. They have 6 OL free agents next year.

[Charlie Brown]

The browns could have a whole new line from center to the right tackle next year. They have 6 OL free agents next year.

That's not smart. That's pretty stupid. The OL needs to get fixed this offseason. Not next offseason. There is no procrastinating. You fix the OL and then see how the QB plays with it. He does well, he's a keeper. He doesn't do well, then look for someone else. It is too soon to judge Frye. He's played one and a half seasons as a starter. This is his first full season as a starting QB.

[WABronco]

Childress said that they're going with Jackson/Bollinger in Minnesota...he specifically said they won't pursue Bledsoe, Plummer, etc.

Tampa has Gradkowski and Simms...they're fine.

Cleveland has two young players...they're fine.

Houston seems like the only realistic scenario, at this time.

[CinnaMunMun]

Childress said that they're going with Jackson/Bollinger in Minnesota...he specifically said they won't pursue Bledsoe, Plummer, etc.

Tampa has Gradkowski and Simms...they're fine.

Cleveland has two young players...they're fine.

Houston seems like the only realistic scenario, at this time.

Well, there is always Miami maybe?

[WABronco]

Well, there is always Miami maybe?
Cleo Lemon and a recovering Culpepper would indicate otherwise, IMO.

[CinnaMunMun]

Cleo Lemon and a recovering Culpepper would indicate otherwise, IMO.

I keep forgetting about Culpepper....

I suppose the Raiders could pick him up if we let him go..

Green Bay has that one kid.

Bears don't need him

What about Detroit? Although Kitna threw for over 4000 yards he did play shaky at times.

[Broncos86]

trade him for a draft pick

[WABronco]

I keep forgetting about Culpepper....

I suppose the Raiders could pick him up if we let him go..

Green Bay has that one kid.

Bears don't need him

What about Detroit? Although Kitna threw for over 4000 yards he did play shaky at times.

Ehhh, Detroit has Kitna and McCown. Marinelli said he's sticking with Kitna for '07 too.

[lancane]

Childress said that they're going with Jackson/Bollinger in Minnesota...he specifically said they won't pursue Bledsoe, Plummer, etc.

Tampa has Gradkowski and Simms...they're fine.

Cleveland has two young players...they're fine.

Houston seems like the only realistic scenario, at this time.

Actually I have thought about this and I saw a thread on another site about a three way trade with Denver, Oakland and the Texans. I do not remember the whole aspects of the thread: But it was Plummer to the Texans for Oakland's 3rd Round Pick and the Texans would send Carr to Oakland for Jerry Porter and a latter day pick, I think a 4th Rounder. (Officially Oakland would trade Porter and their 3rd Round Pick to Houston for their 4th Round Pick and David Carr, then Houston would send Oakland's 3rd Round Pick to Denver for Jake Plummer.) -- I think it would be smart for Denver, and a smart move for both Oakland and more so for Houston. -- Another possibility is Houston trading with Denver for both Plummer and Tatum, I think they want to keep some picks so Denver could maybe (if the deal above had any truth) I think Denver could trade a latter 3rd Round Pick, Tatum and Plummer for their overall 2nd Round Pick. -- Okay, it was just a thought...sounded good in theory...lol.

As far as the Browns, I do not see that happening -- I think the Browns would be an Idea trading partner for Foster who would likely be a Pro Bowler on their line, if I am right and they get Foster and another big time prospect in the draft, I think Cleveland will be a very dangerous opponent in the near future.

[JakeToRod16to80]

As far as the Browns, I do not see that happening -- I think the Browns would be an Idea trading partner for Foster who would likely be a Pro Bowler on their line, if I am right and they get Foster and another big time prospect in the draft, I think Cleveland will be a very dangerous opponent in the near future.

I may be exposing horrible ignorance here, but why would Foster be a pro bowler on their line? I know he is a little too slow for our scheme, so might do better in a scheme requiring less athleticism, but a pro bowler?

[Charlie Brown]

As far as the Browns, I do not see that happening -- I think the Browns would be an Idea trading partner for Foster who would likely be a Pro Bowler on their line, if I am right and they get Foster and another big time prospect in the draft, I think Cleveland will be a very dangerous opponent in the near future.

Foster would be a horrid pick.

The Browns need a LT. Kevin Shaffer played LT for a left-handed QB. Meaning he wasn't protecting the blindside. He is better fit as a traditional RT. The Browns need to pick up a franchise LT to protect Frye's blindside. Not to pick up two traditional right tackles and pray that one of them can magically turn into a franchise LT.

[**OrangeTerp**]

The browns could have a whole new line from center to the right tackle next year. They have 6 OL free agents next year.

We better not go after any more "Browncos".

A lot of good that did for us on our D LINE! :goofy:

[tdot_bronco]

If we can't get a 3rd round pick (or at least a high 4th), we should just release him. He is brutal considering the mula he's making.

[dwills#1fan27]

trade him who the hell cares where he goes just as long as they give something decent in return
just whatever u do don't keep him just to hold kicks............ i say that for 2 reasons

1. he isn't gonna be happy as a #2 and nothing good can come out of him being unhappy

2. he's far to expensive just to hold kicks


bring Preston Parsons up and have him hold kicks

[Dream]

Unless the Broncos can garner a first-day selection for Plummer; they will not trade him. We break even cap wise as far as a hit if we trade him or release him before June 1st. If the Broncos cannot get what they want for him; they'll release him after June 1st and gain 5.5 to 6 million in cap space. That's the smart move.

[tdot_bronco]

Unless the Broncos can garner a first-day selection for Plummer; they will not trade him. We break even cap wise as far as a hit if we trade him or release him before June 1st. If the Broncos cannot get what they want for him; they'll release him after June 1st and gain 5.5 to 6 million in cap space. That's the smart move.

Could you imagine putting that 6 million dollars of cap space toward Nate Clements... that just popped into my mind.

[jlarsiii]

Could you imagine putting that 6 million dollars of cap space toward Nate Clements... that just popped into my mind.

I like this idea but with the cap room that some teams will have we would be lucky to land a guy like this. He will get top dollar from some team and it will be quite a bit more than we can manage. Still though, I guy can dream. . . . . . . .

Just imagine. . .Champ and Clements. . . . :eek:

[Ferryboat63]

I like this idea but with the cap room that some teams will have we would be lucky to land a guy like this. He will get top dollar from some team and it will be quite a bit more than we can manage. Still though, I guy can dream. . . . . . . .

Just imagine. . .Champ and Clements. . . . :eek:


I agree with you, but lets think about it, we lost darrent, so they are going to give us his salary back on the cap. Adding that to the 6million from plummer, and it is possible we could have him.(adding in the fact that who wouldn;t wanna be working beside Champ? he would make you look that much better...)

[tjhenry]

i say trade plummer and tatum for draft picks, and pick up booker from fs, and zabrantsky from boise, those are two players who have really impressed me, booker speedy like tatum but he holds the ball fairly well, and zabrantsky looks like he has so much fun when he's playing, plummer's ready to move on, he doesn't want to be anyone's second fiddle, so let him go, tatums tatum, and i agree with the clements pickup, wow

[Nikaragua]

I say we keep him as a back up and a mentor. At least he won games. He was 7-4 and we were in playoff hopes. But Cutler performs better he just doesn't lead and makes some rookie mistakes. We could trade him but we won't realisticly get much for him.

Rest In Peace - Darrent Williams

[Loyalty]

They probably will cut him because it will save the Broncos more against the cap unless they could get a high draft pick for him which is very unlikely.

[broncos74310]

trade jake for a second round pick to maybe the dolphins, raiders, lions.........?

[Nikaragua]

If we trade Plummer, the highest pick we could dream of getting is maybe a forth and we could get a fifth. This isn't Madden. This is real and picks are valuable

[Rezy]

I know this is too much to hope for, and possibly i dont know what i'm talking about. But why dont we keep Plummer?

Pros:

1. Cutler gets injured we have a experienced QB who is already familliar with the system.

2. Experience.

3. Team Leader.

4 Really the guy isn't that bad. If you had the pressure this guy indured during his time with the Broncs. you too will be dropping the ball. Besides it wasn't all his fault. I blame the pass coverage he wasn't getting. Hence the last 2 games of the season.

5. He's suave and nimble in and out of the pocket. I mean he's no V. Young but he's no M. Vick either. (loud mouth).

6. '05 he was 13-3 give him credit. The guy was working for his job every game.

Cons:

1. Money.

2. Wasted trading chip.

3. Possibly will never go to SB.

4. Turnovers!

5. Unpredictable.?

All in all

I think hes better than:

Grossman
any of the JAX QB
any eagles QB
Vick
Leinardt
Rivers
Manning (thats Eli folks)
Hasselbeck
Roethlisberger
CUTLER