Our Smoke Screen Is Up!!!

[Diggs4]

Ok, now that we are starying to get everyone in the league just were we want them, the same place they were in last year before we got cutler (thinkin we were targeting a WR)... SO who are we really after??????? any thoughts???
Would Shanny be crazy to go after Jarret? Considering, Rod is done after this year,and Brandon only signed a one year deal, that leaves us Javon and B-Marsh... what Do u think.....?? maybe meriweather??


The Smoke Screen us up, whats going on behind it???

[Sharpey]

LOL, take a chill pill. It's only the 8th of April, and at this rate you will have tons of grey hair and a heart attack by the 9th.

[DawgFanatic]

LOL, take a chill pill. It's only the 8th of April, and at this rate you will have tons of grey hair and a heart attack by the 9th.
...the draft is only like 22 days away......

[Diggs4]

LOl i think we can address our need for the DL in the 2nd and beyond, there will be serveral guys that arnt 1st round players that had great production in college, and would be good players for us, like last year with evlis, you cant ignore production, Just cause a guy is a 250 DE and not a 280 DE doesnt mean he cant do big things.. we will draft a few DL, but not one of them will come out of the 1st... :coffee:

[TU_HurricaneDB]

Unfortunately we can't play around that much mainly because other teams know that our DL sucks and our S corp is getting old and slow, I don't think many teams are worried about us getting a WR in round 1. Even with Stokley's one year contract next years WR class has some great potential, a guy I like who should be around is 6'5" Todd Blythe from Iowa St. There are others but we are not even through tihs years draft yet so I'll table this until later.

[TU_HurricaneDB]

LOl i think we can address our need for the DL in the 2nd and beyond, there will be serveral guys that arnt 1st round players that had great production in college, and would be good players for us, like last year with evlis, you cant ignore production, Just cause a guy is a 250 DE and not a 280 DE doesnt mean he cant do big things.. we will draft a few DL, but not one of them will come out of the 1st... :coffee:


Weight doesn't mean they can't do great things but it does hinder their ability to have a chance at being successful at everything they need. Dumervil can rush the passer but can he anchor against the run... no, he gets driven back and engulfed by big OT's. We at least need to give ourselves a chance with a first round DL to build around or with.

[trick]

LOl i think we can address our need for the DL in the 2nd and beyond, there will be serveral guys that arnt 1st round players that had great production in college, and would be good players for us, like last year with evlis, you cant ignore production, Just cause a guy is a 250 DE and not a 280 DE doesnt mean he cant do big things.. we will draft a few DL, but not one of them will come out of the 1st... :coffee:

what makes you so sure you read shanny's mind? :rolleyes: if i tried reading shanny's mind all anyone would end up would be a major migrane :hurt:

[evendelae]

I'm fairly certain Shanny is after Joe Thomas.

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

I'm fairly certain Shanny is after Joe Thomas.
We aren't trading up to the 2nd or 3rd pick in the draft and if we did I would rather have Calvin Johnson.

[evendelae]

We aren't trading up to the 2nd or 3rd pick in the draft and if we did I would rather have Calvin Johnson.
How do you know? I'm sorry, but don't say we "aren't". People didn't think we were getting a QB last year either. You've pissed me off....

And it doesn't really matter who you'd rather have, does it?

Sorry, don't mean to come off as a *****, but never say never.

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

How do you know? I'm sorry, but don't say we "aren't". People didn't think we were getting a QB last year either. You've pissed me off....

And it doesn't really matter who you'd rather have, does it?

Sorry, don't mean to come off as a *****, but never say never.
So your basically saying give up our whole draft for Joe Thomas?

Yeah right. :coffee:

[evendelae]

So your basically saying give up our whole draft for Joe Thomas?

Yeah right. :coffee:
I'm not saying we should, I'm saying Shanny is in love with Joe Thomas and might very well do so. I don't call the shots at Dove Valley, and neither do you. Mike Shanahan and Ted Sundquist do. No, I wouldn't complain if we did draft JT. Look what D'Brick did for the Jets.

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

I'm not saying we should, I'm saying Shanny is in love with Joe Thomas and might very well do so. I don't call the shots at Dove Valley, and neither do you. Mike Shanahan and Ted Sundquist do. No, I wouldn't complain if we did draft JT. Look what D'Brick did for the Jets.
The Jets needed D'Brick, we do not need to give up our good draft picks to get a tackle.

Not even Shanny is stupid enough to do that.

[evendelae]

The Jets needed D'Brick, we do not need to give up our good draft picks to get a tackle.

Not even Shanny is stupid enough to do that.
Hmm, our LT is 33 and coming off of microfracture surgery, we just traded away our RT, we have a promising young player, and ???

Joe Thomas is a very attractive option. You get alot of bang for your buck because Olineman can often play for 10-15+ years at a very high level.

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

Hmm, our LT is 33 and coming off of microfracture surgery, we just traded away our RT, we have a promising young player, and ???

Joe Thomas is a very attractive option. You get alot of bang for your buck because Olineman can often play for 10-15+ years at a very high level.
We have multiple needs in different positions and this wouldn't be done.

[evendelae]

We have multiple needs in different positions and this wouldn't be done.
Bet you a cp. We'd be crazy to not take CJ if we traded up that far, but if Oakland takes him, and they very well might, then I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.

[Broncosinindy]

Weight doesn't mean they can't do great things but it does hinder their ability to have a chance at being successful at everything they need. Dumervil can rush the passer but can he anchor against the run... no, he gets driven back and engulfed by big OT's. We at least need to give ourselves a chance with a first round DL to build around or with.You know what confuses me is this.. Denver wants these Gigantic tackles.. and from everything i hear we dont need a true anchor DE.. so why couldnt dumervil start? i mean as i understand it they let the ends fly in this system

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

Bet you a cp. We'd be crazy to not take CJ if we traded up that far, but if Oakland takes him, and they very well might, then I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.
The fact is we aren't trading up that far and I too would be we would take CJ IF we did.

[evendelae]

The fact is we aren't trading up that far and I too would be we would take CJ IF we did.
You DO NOT know that. Nothing is set in stone. That attitude makes me mad, because it's just not a fact. The fact IS that we were in talks with Detroit about that pick, and according to Wabbit at the Mane, we still are.

[Broncosinindy]

i'd take Joe Thomas at number two. but i'd have to really think about it. i mean there are guys like CJ, AD, Adams, and Charles Johnson.


But we will not trade up. especially that high.

[darkhorse]

Shannahan has made it very clear he wants back in the Top 5 in Offense - has he done enough to get there?

Probably


I smell a ballhawk safety. Reggie Nelson, LaRon Landry or Brandon Merriweather.


1 of those are my pick.

[Ed Canfield]

I think they go after Nelson or Griffin first, then take a capable DE next, possible Moses, or I would love to see Baraka Atkins. This guys motor never stops.

[trick]

Hmm, our LT is 33 and coming off of microfracture surgery, we just traded away our RT, we have a promising young player, and ???

Joe Thomas is a very attractive option. You get alot of bang for your buck because Olineman can often play for 10-15+ years at a very high level.


or we could either stay where we are and pick up staley or move up to number 9 and get levi brown.but that's only saying we are targeting a tackle :coffee:

[jb_edson81]

i'd take Joe Thomas at number two. but i'd have to really think about it. i mean there are guys like CJ, AD, Adams, and Charles Johnson.


But we will not trade up. especially that high.

I'd take Joe Thomas at #2 as well. WRs grow on trees. Franchise LTs don't.

[Gulbrand]

Its a good thing the draft is just 21 days away.

Most here seem to be bent on showing extreme anger and discontent with each other until the Broncos make that first pick. Keep your cool. What ever the Broncos do, some of you will be disappointed, some will act like they were vindicated, some will think their predictive powers are justified, others will remind everyone that the pick may not pan out after all.

If a trade happens, some will be pi$$ed, others will cheer and hold their breath until the pick is announced and will groan, moan, gasp or cheer, and come here to react accordingly....

It's the American Dream..........

[Hoss]

I remember these same conversations from last year. Everyone was on the Vernon Davis bandwagon. It was Davis or bust on these message boards. Is anyone upset at our 1st round from last year? In about 3 weeks time we will know what the management has in store for us as fans. It's exciting. Some think we should trade up and some think we should trade down. Time will tell. Personally I love draft day! And the 1st round is the most exciting. That reason alone is the reason I am always against trading down. Selfish I know, but it's fun for me that way.

[Hoserman117]

Yeah... I think if we either had a stronger secondary or a stronger D-Line we could use the whole smoke screen deal... But not this year.

[stnzed]

So your basically saying give up our whole draft for Joe Thomas?

Yeah right. :coffee:


Would you give up the whole draft to protect The Future? I would seriously consider it....I would also rather have Calvin Johnson! :salute:

[broncobuss]

You DO NOT know that. Nothing is set in stone. That attitude makes me mad, because it's just not a fact. The fact IS that we were in talks with Detroit about that pick, and according to Wabbit at the Mane, we still are.

I agree with you, every time someone comes on with an idea, all these people jump on saying Its a fact and they will never do this or that but the truth is they dont know any more than any one else. but with that said if we traded up to #2, I would want adrian peterson 1st, and calvin johnson 2nd. but thats just me, joe thomas, levi brown, and joe staley would all be about the same. and I would much rather wait until the later rounds to get a o-lineman anyway.

[jmjk]

Just think about the following:

If the trade with the Lions is done now and we are targeting
CJ, would the Raiders pick just to stick it to us and get a 2nd round
QB or pick a left over from FA.

YES

So nothing can be said about moving up. Shanny would never
give the Raiders the pleasure. Besides, it keeps Davis from picking
up what they need just to try to stick it to us. This 2nd pick move
up could be just to keep the Raiders guessing, making sure they
get a migrain for trying.

[LockdownD]

if we move up, we only have enough extra picks to move to 10 or lower. we might not even have enough to move into the top 10 unless we add cash to the deal and we don't have enough of that. I still believe if we trade up it will be to get Peterson, but if we don't move up we can expect moss or carriker if he is there. I just don't see a large need for seven picks so i think we will give up a couple if the oppurtunity presents itself for Peterson or Ginn. Shanny loves and has been looking for a big play person on special teams and either one of these two would give us that..ginn especially. Mike likes to use back up running backs as returners. I just feel that if we use all seven picks we will be waisting them, and some may not even make the team.

[evendelae]

Its a good thing the draft is just 21 days away.

Most here seem to be bent on showing extreme anger and discontent with each other until the Broncos make that first pick. Keep your cool. What ever the Broncos do, some of you will be disappointed, some will act like they were vindicated, some will think their predictive powers are justified, others will remind everyone that the pick may not pan out after all.

If a trade happens, some will be pi$$ed, others will cheer and hold their breath until the pick is announced and will groan, moan, gasp or cheer, and come here to react accordingly....

It's the American Dream..........
I'm just cranky cause the Avs didn't make the playoffs, I'm in my depression period. :sad:

[MooseMan]

I am with evendelae. I do not think we have a lot of defensive needs. However, O-Lineman is a pressing need. More specifically, Left Offensive Tackle is a pressing need for the Broncos. Why did our team fail last year?!? Well, let's look at it - Defense setting records first half of season, fell to pieces late. Teams adjusted to our defensive game plan, we didn't. That's coaching, or lack of it. Matt Lepsis tears ACL. Pears fills in nicely, but where is the depth behind him? Meadows is not the answer. Foster was not the answer. Plummer loses Kubiak as O-Coord. Plummer forgets everything Kubiak did with him, and becomes Plummer again. Two safeties go down with leg injuries. We could use some talent and depth here, but...............................I, for one, hope we target a big time left offensive tackle in the draft. You can't believe everything the media puts out there, especially all the talk that we will take the best available D-end. I don't think it's the way to go, must build a solid, young offensive line to protect your young QB. Anyway, just my take on the situation.

[SHELLBACKBRONCO]

Shannahan has made it very clear he wants back in the Top 5 in Offense - has he done enough to get there?

Probably


I smell a ballhawk safety. Reggie Nelson, LaRon Landry or Brandon Merriweather.


1 of those are my pick.
That would be cool! But whoever we pick I just hope he works out for the team. I personally hope we draft D-line! Even if we had to trade up for Carriker or Branch!! :fight:

[SHELLBACKBRONCO]

I am with evendelae. I do not think we have a lot of defensive needs. However, O-Lineman is a pressing need. More specifically, Left Offensive Tackle is a pressing need for the Broncos. Why did our team fail last year?!? Well, let's look at it - Defense setting records first half of season, fell to pieces late. Teams adjusted to our defensive game plan, we didn't. That's coaching, or lack of it. Matt Lepsis tears ACL. Pears fills in nicely, but where is the depth behind him? Meadows is not the answer. Foster was not the answer. Plummer loses Kubiak as O-Coord. Plummer forgets everything Kubiak did with him, and becomes Plummer again. Two safeties go down with leg injuries. We could use some talent and depth here, but...............................I, for one, hope we target a big time left offensive tackle in the draft. You can't believe everything the media puts out there, especially all the talk that we will take the best available D-end. I don't think it's the way to go, must build a solid, young offensive line to protect your young QB. Anyway, just my take on the situation.
Some problems we had was that the O-line was green, rookies. This year will be different; and with the problem of who's starting Q-Back., that's definately going to be different. All for the better!