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ChrisKamanowns
07-17-2007, 11:51 AM
:rockon: :rockon: can anyone help me with a draft order
i have the third pick in the 1st round and i plan on drafting LJ LT or Steven Jackson
what about the other rounds
what positions should i draft in the following rounds
what players?
thanks for the advice ahead of time
underrated29
07-17-2007, 12:09 PM
is it a snake draft? how does your scoring work? etc, etc.
umm, how about drafting another good rb, after your 3rd pick
ChrisKamanowns
07-17-2007, 12:16 PM
scoring is normal scoring except we have to draft a utilty player which is any position u want
but i would like to know like what to draft in round
2-i forgot how many rounds but it's like 16
WhatWould#7Do
07-17-2007, 12:32 PM
Draft as many good starting calibur running backs as you can, the first 2 rounds should easliy be running backs, unless all the good ones that drop are gone (T Henry, Thomas Jones. etc.). If the good runners are gone and u can still get a WR like Marvin Harrison or Torry Holt, do that.
Here's my suggestion
1 RB
2 RB
3 WR
4 WR/QB
5 RB
6 WR
7 DEF/QB
8 TE
9 WR
10 K
This should leave you with RBs like LJ and either Thomas Jones or Marshawn Lynch and WR like Anquan Boldin or Javon Walker and Laverneous Coles and Joey Galloway or something like that and a QB as good as Marc Bulger. Then you can prolly take a flier on another RB like Jamal Lewis or something in teh 5th for depth, then u should be able to pick up a def like Pit or Miami and your TE can be like Alge Crumpler.
Im just sayin this is my strat and I always have good teams :D
NinjaPirateFunk
07-17-2007, 12:52 PM
depends on your scoring strategy and who is available.
take two running backs in the first two rounds unless you're feeling ballsy.
third round is where it gets tricky depending on scoring and who the group is drafting. if it's 6 points per passing td like it is any other position, you might want to think about a qb if you can get bulger or brady or manning. the difference between the #1 receiver last year and the rest of the top 10 isn't a whole lot.
hell, you might consider getting another back for depth. check out my blog, i detail which backs have the best playoff matchups and if you get a third back with excellent odds of scoring like crazy in weeks 14-16 you might thank yourself later.
beyond that, don't draft qb too high unless it's one of the big name qbs like the three above. after that, you can wait. i've seen teams with average fantasy qbs win it all, and there's always good passers available later. depending on rushing, you could take vick or young.
don't draft tight end too high. it's the least valuable position. and don't draft kicker high at all, there's enough good kickers for every team.
you can follow my defense strategy if you want, which is take one good one late if possible, then play the matchups with other defenses throughout the year. almost any defense playing a bad offense will look like a million bucks.
probably best if you let us know the scoring system, how many people are in the league, etc.
ChrisKamanowns
07-18-2007, 03:20 AM
there are ten people ion the league and the scoring system is head to head points
here is some other scoring stuff
Passing
TD Pass 4 Every 25 passing yards 1
40+ yard TD pass bonus 2 50+ yard TD pass bonus 4
300-399 yard passing game 2 400+ yard passing game 5
2pt Passing Conversion 2 Interceptions Thrown -2
Every Time Sacked -2
Rushing
TD Rush 6 2pt Rushing Conversion 2
Every 10 rushing yards 1 Every 5 rush attempts 1
40+ yard TD rush bonus 2 50+ yard TD rush bonus 4
200+ yard rushing game 2
Receiving
TD Reception 6 2pt Receiving Conversion 2
40+ yard TD rec bonus 2 50+ yard TD rec bonus 4
Every 10 receiving yards 1 100-199 yard receiving game 2
200+ yard receiving game 4
Miscellaneous
Fumble Recovered for TD 6 Each Fumble Lost -2
Kickoff Return TD 6 Punt Return TD 6
Kicking
FG Made (50+ yards) 5 FG Made (40-49 yards) 4
FG Made (0-39 yards) 3 Total FG Made 1
Total FG Missed -1 Each PAT Made 1
Each PAT Missed -5
Team Defense / Special Teams
0 points allowed 10 2-6 points allowed 7
7-13 points allowed 4 14-17 points allowed 1
Blocked Punt or FG return for TD 6 Each Interception 2
Each Fumble Recovered 2 Blocked Punt, PAT or FG 2
Each Safety 2 Each Sack 1
Kickoff Return TD 6 Punt Return TD 6
Interception Return TD 6 Fumble Return TD 6
Each Fumble Forced 2 Each Tackle for Loss 1
22-27 points allowed -1 28-34 points allowed -4
35-45 points allowed -7 46+ points allowed -10
Less than 100 total yards allowed 10 100-199 total yards allowed 8
200-299 total yards allowed 5 300-349 total yards allowed -1
350-399 total yards allowed -2 400-449 total yards allowed -6
450-499 total yards allowed -8 500-549 total yards allowed -10
550+ total yards allowed -13
thanks ffor the advise this is helping me a lot
underrated29
07-18-2007, 12:42 PM
OK SO to me there are like there are like 8 guys that blow up your league, imo i would do what it takes to get alteast two.
carson palmer= big points, especially if you can team him up with chad. in your league i might even consider taking them 1@2.
then there is lj- lots of touches, lots of yards, lots of tds= must have, prob not if you get those two above
gore= lots of yards, lots of touches, tds average maybe going up= picks 5-10
sjaxn=lots of touches,lots of yards,lots tds= right there with lj, id go sjax pick 2-4
then there are westbrook, reggie b,
is it a snake draft?
i would get sjax then go westy, or bush if they fell. then get palmer if there or any other gunslinger. andre johnson gets tons of touches, and yards. little low on tds tho. after that get best player available.
kitna throws a ton, arizona should run a ton this year, edge might fall to 3 or 4th, that would be a great pick. furrey porbably wont match his numbers. use your head and you'll be fine.
Doggcow
07-18-2007, 12:51 PM
It's really hard to tell you who to pick without seeing who you have and who is available. Generally I pick whoever is highest on my list, or if I'm in dire need of a position Ill pick my highest rated player from that position still left.
I don't give out my cheat sheet though =p
Doggcow
07-18-2007, 12:53 PM
OK SO to me there are like there are like 8 guys that blow up your league, imo i would do what it takes to get alteast two.
carson palmer= big points, especially if you can team him up with chad. in your league i might even consider taking them 1@2.
then there is lj- lots of touches, lots of yards, lots of tds= must have, prob not if you get those two above
gore= lots of yards, lots of touches, tds average maybe going up= picks 5-10
sjaxn=lots of touches,lots of yards,lots tds= right there with lj, id go sjax pick 2-4
then there are westbrook, reggie b,
is it a snake draft?
i would get sjax then go westy, or bush if they fell. then get palmer if there or any other gunslinger. andre johnson gets tons of touches, and yards. little low on tds tho. after that get best player available.
kitna throws a ton, arizona should run a ton this year, edge might fall to 3 or 4th, that would be a great pick. furrey porbably wont match his numbers. use your head and you'll be fine.
Other than Stephen Jackson I disagree with just about everything =p
dogfish
07-18-2007, 02:11 PM
having those first couple of spots always presents an interesting dilemna (since you haven't said, i'm assuming that it's a snake draft-- that's become pretty standard). . . obviously you know to take a top RB with your first pick, but the problem is that most of the best RBs are going to be taken by the time it gets back to you. . . based on their average ranking and average draft position, i'd say most likely you'll be looking at backs like thomas jones, cedric benson, edgerrin james, clinton portis and deuce mcallister. . . the good news is that you get to pick again four spots later, so you have a decent chance to determine who's likely to be left when it comse back around. . .
of course it depends on individual circumstances, but IMO in your situation you generally want to come out of those second and third picks with your second RB and a top-tier QB/WR-- in this case, given that passing TDs are only worth 4 points, i would probably take a WR. . . IF all the RBs i mentioned are indeed available, you know you'll be able to get at least one of them in the third-- i would probably look to take a WR if one of your top five is still available, because IMO there is more of a difference between, say, torry holt or TO and javon walker or andre johnson, than there is between edge and thomas jones. . . there's no question that you have to play the draft out and make your decision based on who's actually there, but in terms of pre-planning a strategy for the third spot, i myself would probably approach it thinking of going RB, WR, RB with those top three picks-- and then planning to get a RB, WR and QB in your next three picks, unless gates is available. . . the next three picks don't necessarily have to come in that order, but don't wait too log to grab that third RB-- especially if there's a guy still on the board who's a potential starter, or at least co-starter (ahman green, cadillac williams, fred taylor, jamal lewis etc). . .
in your scoring format, i would wait and get a QB in the middle rounds-- let other owners spend their high picks on QBs while you're stocking up on RBs and receivers! if other owners also fail to bite, somebody may just fall into your lap unexpectedly-- but i wouldn't pull the trigger unless it's manning with your second pick (highly unlikely), or possibly palmer with your third (but i wouldn't pass on a good #2 back or top receiver to take him there). . . ultimately i think your best bet is to look for a guy like mcnabb, bulger or hasselbeck after the 5th round (hasselbeck could be available as late as the 7th, or even 8th). . .or, you could even wait and get a player like kitna or rivers around the 8th, and then grab another decent QB before the run on backups begins (take jay cutler ;) )-- you might not get that consistent stud QB, but if you have two solid players you can play matchups and get enough production to win. . . if your strategy goes out the window, the motto "you can never have too much quality depth at RB" is always good to fall back on-- they can almost always be traded to fill holes at other spots!
i'd suggest going to a mock site like mock draft central (check my thread by that name in this forum) and doing a couple of mock drafts (if you sign up a day in advance, you can usually choose the spot you want to draft in) where you pick in that third spot to get an idea how things are likely to play out, and which players are likely to be available at each spot when you do your real draft-- if you're serious about winning, it's worth a few extra hours to ensure that you get a good team that you'll enjoy for the rest of the year. . . good luck!
Mike1709
07-18-2007, 02:26 PM
I think Dog's advice is pretty sound. I was about to suggest you consider taking Kitna with a mid-round pick as he will put up loads of yards and get more than enough TD's to give a healthy score once you take the minus points for INT's off, but realised that you also get -2 for sacks. Tough league man.
Therefore, just as an important factor as yards, TD's or INT's thrown when picking your QB, will be how good the offensive line is at pass blocking. A porous line will see your QB looking like Santa Claus on Christmas Eve (with loads of sacks). Whatever you do, do not take a Raider QB or Matt Schaub of the Texans as you'll end up with minus points from your QB :)
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