Media "Love" Tebow....Need A Referendum

[samparnell]

If HWSNBN wasn't a football player, I might not know he exists.

The only interest I have is how HWSNBN will be employed by Tony Sparano with the question being, "Can an effective offense be built around a running QB and, if so, what will it be?"

To me, that's an interesting football question I will be following. All the other stuff is just noise.

[FL BRONCO]

I can agree with the overhype and the tebonites as I refer to them. Heck these boards got frustrating at times cause every thread somehow came back to TT even though it didn't start there and so much as an honest assessment of his abilities and things he didn't do well got so many reposts about TT hating and how TT was the best at everything (little exaggeration but pretty true). I think the Jets board did one of the smartest moves I've seen by creating a forum just for him.

That said, while I definitely think he is way overhyped, I find it kind of refreshing that atleast the hype is about a very respectful good person and good example who is willing to stand up for what he believes in. With all the bad stories and Brandon Marshalls of today, it is refreshing to me to see TT. I hope he succeeds and I will be rooting for him as long as he is not playing us.

[demosthenes9]

There's no way in Hell you're going to convince me that you somehow failed to observe the zealous cult following Tebow around based on his religious values.

At one Bronco game here in Denver, there was a group of such Evangelicals chanting a phrase for Tebow that directly indicated they believed he was the next messiah. It made ESPN's intro one night, and they were all over Dove Valley from the moment we drafted Tebow.

They weren't quiet, they weren't subtle, and you most certainly cannot convince me you missed it.

There are a lot of them. They're vocal. And they spend money on things like this.

Those Jersey sales that Tebow set records for? Those didn't come from NFL fans. Those came from Tebow fans - and the vast majority of those were people who share his religious and political views.

Tell me Alastor, how was it that zealot Christian Tebowites apparently managed to take over SA Stadium and seemingly got most of the tickets for each home game. Did they buy them off the longtime season ticket holders ?

I mean, when you have what seemed to be the entire stadium chanting TEBOW, TEBOW, TEBOW, yeah, that was "non NFL fans" doing that, huh ??

No, it has to be The Christians, because there's no other reason to support Tebow, to purchase his jersey, or to chant his name to get him into the game while Orton was racking up a 7-24 record, right ?

I know plenty of "NFL fans" who say that Tebow isn't a very good QB at this point, BUT, that he's still fun to watch. That they enjoy seeing what he does on the field at different points throughout the games, and especially when he would put it together in the 4th quarter.

Dare I say, once again, it was like watching Elway in his first year. He'd suck. He'd miss receivers all over the place. He'd do things that would just leave you shaking your head and asking "what the heck was he thinking", but then, out of no where, WHAM, a brilliant and exciting play. Then a couple of them. Whoops, there goes a 4th Q comeback, game winning drive.

Now, let's get all psychological and what not. Ever watch a movie or read a book where the main character never has any challenges ? Where they never had adversity ? Where the character just simply does everything right and triumphs at everything ?

Guess what ? That would be a boring book. Sorry, but that's why the Packers were so boring this year. I mean, game, after game, after game, after game. If you saw the Packer's listed in the TV lineup, well, you knew they were going to win, that Rodgers was going to be amazing, and yawn, BORING. Only reason to watch was to see if they might some how lose.

With Tebow, things were hardly boring, except the tedious nature of Fox and McCoy's play calling.

But you just knew that at some point, Tebow was going to start to click and man, you wanted to watch when he did.

Heck, I'll directly challenge you to go find any other QB or any other team that produced as many dramatic games as the Broncos and Tebow had this year.

Another thing that many of us like is that Tebow is truly a throwback player. If you will, it's like the phenomenon of Mike Alstott, but magnified because Tebow is a QB and QBs just don't run over LBs and DBs.

Tell me that it didn't get your heart pounding faster when Tebow went down the right sideline against the Jets, saw Revis standing there, and instead of going out of bounds, he lowered his shoulder and went right at him !

Tell me that it didn't get your heart pounding when he got to the second level against the Bears and lowered his head to take on Urlacher or Lance Briggs ?

Or that play against the Vikings where he scrambled to the left, STIFF ARMED a Viking, then threw to DT ?

But no, real "NFL fans" or real "football fans" or even "real Broncos fans" couldn't have enjoyed watching Tebow play, or be supportive of him.

Nope, instead, it's all about the Christians.

BTW, ftr, I'm not a "Christian" and while I was raised as a Catholic, I've been agnostic/Deist for the last 24 years.

But funny enough, I enjoy watching football, especially College football and I enjoy watching football PLAYERS.

But again, it's all about "the Christians", right ???

/end rant

[Alastor]

Tell me Alastor, how was it that zealot Christian Tebowites apparently managed to take over SA Stadium and seemingly got most of the tickets for each home game.

No, and this is evident by the fact that the lowest attended game in Invesco history was Tebow's home opener.

In fact, those chants weren't always started by Bronco fans at all. In the 59-14 loss to the Raiders for example, the Oakland fans had come out in large numbers. Even Al Davis made the trip. They started the chants for Tebow, which quickly got picked up by the rest of the crowd.

So no, it wasn't always the Tebow faithful.

I'd also concede that the team was unexciting and that many folks had never liked Orton from the start, so chanting to give something new a try is natural.

But yeah, a lot of the fans at the game were there strictly for Tebow. I don't know what percentage it was, but there were a lot of people present at the games and near our seats that were there solely for Tebow.

Did they buy them off the longtime season ticket holders ?

Possibly. I don't know. I wasn't one of them that sold their tickets.

I mean, when you have what seemed to be the entire stadium chanting TEBOW, TEBOW, TEBOW, yeah, that was "non NFL fans" doing that, huh ??

Largely - or non-Denver fans as was the case with Oakland. Certainly some of the Denver fans were also chanting, but there was a pretty big contingent of "I'm only here for Tebow" present the last couple of years too.

No, it has to be The Christians, because there's no other reason to support Tebow, to purchase his jersey, or to chant his name to get him into the game while Orton was racking up a 7-24 record, right ?

I never said it was only the Christians. I said the reason he gets so much coverage is because of the amount of people he draws in - people that are drawn in not by what he does on the field, but because of what he expresses in terms of belief systems.

And yeah, that really is why he gets the attention he gets. It's certainly not because he's a good quarterback.

[demosthenes9]

No, and this is evident by the fact that the lowest attended game in Invesco history was Tebow's home opener.

In fact, those chants weren't always started by Bronco fans at all. In the 59-14 loss to the Raiders for example, the Oakland fans had come out in large numbers. Even Al Davis made the trip. They started the chants for Tebow, which quickly got picked up by the rest of the crowd.

So no, it wasn't always the Tebow faithful.

Alastor, this is emblematic of the problem and of your bias on this issue. I was asking about "The Christians" and in your reply, you mention the "Tebow faithful", which, I submit, you believe to be Non NFL fan Christians".

I'd also concede that the team was unexciting and that many folks had never liked Orton from the start, so chanting to give something new a try is natural.

Yep, having a QB go 7-24 will cause that.

But yeah, a lot of the fans at the game were there strictly for Tebow. I don't know what percentage it was, but there were a lot of people present at the games and near our seats that were there solely for Tebow.

Are you sure ? I mean, around here, anyone who was supportive of Tebow was labelled as a Tebot or a Tebowite and their authenticity was questioned, you know "You aren't a real fan".

Funny thing is that I see quite a number of people with registration dates PRIOR to Tebow even being drafted, people who have been here for years and have 5K+ posts to their credit, who were supportive of Tebow. IIRC, I believe one or more of the Mods were as well.

That a lot of fans were supportive of Tebow DOESN'T mean that they were ONLY supportive of Tebow. But that goes against the narrative, doesn't it ?

Largely - or non-Denver fans as was the case with Oakland. Certainly some of the Denver fans were also chanting, but there was a pretty big contingent of "I'm only here for Tebow" present the last couple of years too.

Or maybe, just maybe, it was also a lot of Bronco Fans who thought that Tebow might just be that "franchise QB" that Bronco fans have been looking for ? That sure, he was raw, and has a lot of work to do, but man, he has soo much potential ? Again, kind of like many people thought of Elway during his first year ?

I never said it was only the Christians. I said the reason he gets so much coverage is because of the amount of people he draws in - people that are drawn in not by what he does on the field, but because of what he expresses in terms of belief systems.

Nah, you didn't say or imply that it was only the Christians.....

here's no way in Hell you're going to convince me that you somehow failed to observe the zealous cult following Tebow around based on his religious values.

At one Bronco game here in Denver, there was a group of such Evangelicals chanting a phrase for Tebow that directly indicated they believed he was the next messiah. It made ESPN's intro one night, and they were all over Dove Valley from the moment we drafted Tebow.

No focus or targeting of Christians at all....... /sarcasm

Oh, wait, guess you score some points on a technicality as you did mention political views as well.

And yeah, that really is why he gets the attention he gets. It's certainly not because he's a good quarterback.

/headshake. Seriously dude. Didn't cross your mind that he gets attention because:

• the "experts" said that he wouldn't be a first round draft pick, yet he was ?
• That the "experts" said he would never be an NFL QB, but he is?
• That the "experts" said that he would never start an NFL game, but he did? That the "experts" said that he would never win in the NFL as a QB but he did ?
• That the "experts" said that he couldn't sustain it, but he did?
• That the "experts" said he couldn't take a team to the playoffs, but he did ?
• That the "experts" said that he had no chance whatsoever of beating Pittsburgh, but he did ??

THAT is the reason why he had so much media coverage this year. Because he kept defying the odds. Because he kept on doing things that many/most of "the experts" kept claiming he couldn't do.

You saw it in action when right after he scored the TD against the Jets, the camera cut to Rex Ryan just lifting his arms kind of saying "Man, did that just happen".

You saw it again when TV announcers said "I can't believe it".

You saw it yet again when the entire collection of "analysts" at the desk on CBS's "NFL Today" all Tebowed from their seats after he dropped 316 yds and the Broncos beat the Steelers.



But no, according to you, Tebow gets attention because of his political/religious views.

Wow.

[Alastor]

Alastor, this is emblematic of the problem and of your bias on this issue.

"Bias." You keep usin' dat word. I do no think it means, what you think it means.

Tebow's not a very good quarterback. Stating the obvious doesn't make me biased. It makes me honest.

The vast majority of Tebow's fans are fans of his for reasons other than his football prowess. Pointing that out doesn't make me biased. That makes me honest.

I was asking about "The Christians" and in your reply, you mention the "Tebow faithful", which, I submit, you believe to be Non NFL fan Christians".

For the most-part, I'd say that's a fair statement of my thoughts. Most of the Tebow faithful are probably not NFL fans.

They've bought the NFL jerseys. They've come to the NFL games. They've posted on NFL boards such as this one. They haven't done so because of their affinity for the NFL however. They've done so because of their affinity for Tebow.

Yep, having a QB go 7-24 will cause that.

I wrote:

But yeah, a lot of the fans at the game were there strictly for Tebow. I don't know what percentage it was, but there were a lot of people present at the games and near our seats that were there solely for Tebow.

To which you replied:

Are you sure ?

Yep. I'm sure. I've been going to Dove Valley training camps for years. I've been a season ticket holder since before Tebow was in the NFL, and I've been going to NFL games since before he was alive.

The religious throngs are new. My guess is that the next time we're at Dove Valley, they won't be there. They'll have suddenly vanished. I don't think it's because of the phases of the moon.

Do you?

I mean, around here, anyone who was supportive of Tebow was labelled as a Tebot or a Tebowite and their authenticity was questioned, you know "You aren't a real fan".

I think there was a lot of that going around. Some of it wasn't merited. Some of it was, however. There were many cases of people that were obviously here just to root for Tebow, and when it became clear that they were blindly loyal to that cause - regardless of the rationality of those engaging them - then they were frequently referred to by those monikers.

Kind of like how anyone that was anything other than emphatically supportive of him got labelled biased as you've done to me repeatedly regardless of how reasonable my arguments or statements have been.

Funny thing is that I see quite a number of people with registration dates PRIOR to Tebow even being drafted, people who have been here for years and have 5K+ posts to their credit, who were supportive of Tebow. IIRC, I believe one or more of the Mods were as well.

Sure. Lots of people support Tebow. Some did it because he was our quarterback. Some because they liked his personality. Some because it was trendy. Some because they thought he was exciting. Some because they legitimately thought he would be the future here.

"Some."

The "some" on this board is probably not indicative of the "most" that are out there creating this kind of buzz for Tebow.

But no, according to you, Tebow gets attention because of his political/religious views.

Wow.

Again, it's not because he's a Bronco - since he's a Jet now. And it's not because he's a good quarterback.

What's your explanation for it then?


Why is a 25th overall draft pick who isn't even good enough to beat out Chad Henne getting this kind of attention?

Let's hear your theory.

While you're at it, perhaps you can explain to me why 40+ true NFL fans were dressed up as Evangelical women chanting phrases about Tebow being the next messiah heading into the stadium and why, oddly, that doesn't seem to happen to every other NFL quarterback all the time.

[watha?]

Alastor, this is emblematic of the problem and of your bias on this issue. I was asking about "The Christians" and in your reply, you mention the "Tebow faithful", which, I submit, you believe to be Non NFL fan Christians".




Yep, having a QB go 7-24 will cause that.





Are you sure ? I mean, around here, anyone who was supportive of Tebow was labelled as a Tebot or a Tebowite and their authenticity was questioned, you know "You aren't a real fan".

Funny thing is that I see quite a number of people with registration dates PRIOR to Tebow even being drafted, people who have been here for years and have 5K+ posts to their credit, who were supportive of Tebow. IIRC, I believe one or more of the Mods were as well.

That a lot of fans were supportive of Tebow DOESN'T mean that they were ONLY supportive of Tebow. But that goes against the narrative, doesn't it ?





Or maybe, just maybe, it was also a lot of Bronco Fans who thought that Tebow might just be that "franchise QB" that Bronco fans have been looking for ? That sure, he was raw, and has a lot of work to do, but man, he has soo much potential ? Again, kind of like many people thought of Elway during his first year ?





Nah, you didn't say or imply that it was only the Christians.....




No focus or targeting of Christians at all....... /sarcasm

Oh, wait, guess you score some points on a technicality as you did mention political views as well.





/headshake. Seriously dude. Didn't cross your mind that he gets attention because:

• the "experts" said that he wouldn't be a first round draft pick, yet he was ?
• That the "experts" said he would never be an NFL QB, but he is?
• That the "experts" said that he would never start an NFL game, but he did? That the "experts" said that he would never win in the NFL as a QB but he did ?
• That the "experts" said that he couldn't sustain it, but he did?
• That the "experts" said he couldn't take a team to the playoffs, but he did ?
• That the "experts" said that he had no chance whatsoever of beating Pittsburgh, but he did ??

THAT is the reason why he had so much media coverage this year. Because he kept defying the odds. Because he kept on doing things that many/most of "the experts" kept claiming he couldn't do.

You saw it in action when right after he scored the TD against the Jets, the camera cut to Rex Ryan just lifting his arms kind of saying "Man, did that just happen".

You saw it again when TV announcers said "I can't believe it".

You saw it yet again when the entire collection of "analysts" at the desk on CBS's "NFL Today" all Tebowed from their seats after he dropped 316 yds and the Broncos beat the Steelers.



But no, according to you, Tebow gets attention because of his political/religious views.

Wow.

St and D play great the whole game while tebow manage only 5mins of decent play had nothing to do with it; and you wonder why other player like DT arent sad to see timmy go. He hogged all the credit and attention when they win. Tebow get attention because he's overhype, him doing the tebowing for the camera help increase his hype. i'll say this, the attention he's getting is definitely not from performing like brees,a.r,p.manning,brady

[Awesomo 2000]

I didn't have to click on much of anything to see how many times he was involved on the NFL.com front page.

You can be annoyed with me......I just think it's beyond overkill, and we are missing out on a ton of other great football / human interest stories that I would prefer to discover, in traditional sources.

I can understand some irritation with the media saturation, but it really could be much worse. If there weren't so many Tebow articles, we'd have even more garbage from that hack Adam Rank.

Even if the Tebow stuff gets old, it sure beats reading about stuff like which quarterback looks most like he could be the next pop sensation. Or who they would should be dating. Or what kind of dog most suits their personality.

[watha?]

I can understand some irritation with the media saturation, but it really could be much worse. If there weren't so many Tebow articles, we'd have even more garbage from that hack Adam Rank.

Even if the Tebow stuff gets old, it sure beats reading about stuff like which quarterback looks most like he could be the next pop sensation. Or who they would should be dating. Or what kind of dog most suits their personality.

they are already doing this with tebow, so how is it any different?

[demosthenes9]

"Bias." You keep usin' dat word. I do no think it means, what you think it means.

Tebow's not a very good quarterback. Stating the obvious doesn't make me biased. It makes me honest.

I'm well aware of the meaning of the word and I used it appropriately. I'll explain the application below.

The vast majority of Tebow's fans are fans of his for reasons other than his football prowess. Pointing that out doesn't make me biased. That makes me honest.

Here is the bias. You completely ignore that people can be fans of Tebow BECAUSE OF what he does on the football field.

In your mind/world, the only QBs that people can support or be fans of apparently (for "football reasons), are ones like Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Brady et al. For whatever reason, it just doesn't register with you that people can like the way a raw, young QB plays, even if he doesn't show that high a skill level.

Therefore, since Tebow isn't a good/great QB, and since he has so many fervent fans, it MUST BE due to his religious/political views.

THAT IS YOUR BIAS. It affects the way you view just about everything with Tebow, including his fans/supporters.

Is there some percentage of his fan base that are fans because of his religion ? Sure. Is there some percentage of his fan base that are fans due to his political positions (even though he hasn't said much in the way of politics) ? Sure.

But you can't even begin to make the case that those people make up the majority of his fan base.

For the most-part, I'd say that's a fair statement of my thoughts. Most of the Tebow faithful are probably not NFL fans.

It might be a fair statement of your thoughts, but that doesn't make it the truth.

They've bought the NFL jerseys. They've come to the NFL games. They've posted on NFL boards such as this one. They haven't done so because of their affinity for the NFL however. They've done so because of their affinity for Tebow.

Yep. I'm sure. I've been going to Dove Valley training camps for years. I've been a season ticket holder since before Tebow was in the NFL, and I've been going to NFL games since before he was alive.

The religious throngs are new. My guess is that the next time we're at Dove Valley, they won't be there. They'll have suddenly vanished. I don't think it's because of the phases of the moon.

Do you?

I think you are drastically overstating the case.

I think there was a lot of that going around. Some of it wasn't merited. Some of it was, however. There were many cases of people that were obviously here just to root for Tebow, and when it became clear that they were blindly loyal to that cause - regardless of the rationality of those engaging them - then they were frequently referred to by those monikers.

Oh, BS. ANYONE and EVERYONE who supported Tebow on this board were frequently referred to by those monikers.

I'll give you two simple facts as an example. Fact 1: Most young QBs take time to develop, they aren't good/great their first year as a starter. Fact 2. Most young QBs have trouble reading NFL defenses.

Guess what ? If you dared state either of those 2 facts when discussing Tebow's performance last year, you were labelled as a Tebot/Tebowite.

Heck, this is another level of bias on your part, in my opinion. Whether you were a fan of the Broncos or not, if you defended Tebow with any FACTS that would apply to most other QBs in the league, yep, you were a mindless Tebowite, not a real football fan who knew something about the game.

Kind of like how anyone that was anything other than emphatically supportive of him got labelled biased as you've done to me repeatedly regardless of how reasonable my arguments or statements have been.

BS here as well. It was the irrationality of the positions many of you took that I had issue with.

Sure. Lots of people support Tebow. Some did it because he was our quarterback. Some because they liked his personality. Some because it was trendy. Some because they thought he was exciting. Some because they legitimately thought he would be the future here.

"Some."

The "some" on this board is probably not indicative of the "most" that are out there creating this kind of buzz for Tebow.

Oh, so now you've backed off to some degree and are saying that "probably" aren't indicative of "most" of his supporters ?? And you are finally recognizing/admitting that people might be fans of his because of what he did on the field.

Hey, it's a start.

Again, it's not because he's a Bronco - since he's a Jet now. And it's not because he's a good quarterback.

What's your explanation for it then?


Why is a 25th overall draft pick who isn't even good enough to beat out Chad Henne getting this kind of attention?

Let's hear your theory.

What's my explanation for it then ? Hmmm, let me think.... Could have sworn that I already made some comments about this. Oh yeah, I did IN THE VERY POST THAT YOU REPLIED TO:

[quote]=headshake. Seriously dude. Didn't cross your mind that he gets attention because:

the "experts" said that he wouldn't be a first round draft pick, yet he was ?
That the "experts" said he would never be an NFL QB, but he is?
That the "experts" said that he would never start an NFL game, but he did? That the "experts" said that he would never win in the NFL as a QB but he did ?
That the "experts" said that he couldn't sustain it, but he did?
That the "experts" said he couldn't take a team to the playoffs, but he did ?
That the "experts" said that he had no chance whatsoever of beating Pittsburgh, but he did ??

While you're at it, perhaps you can explain to me why 40+ true NFL fans were dressed up as Evangelical women chanting phrases about Tebow being the next messiah heading into the stadium and why, oddly, that doesn't seem to happen to every other NFL quarterback all the time.

Wow, 40 whole people ? You are seriously basing your opinion off the 40+ people that you saw dressed up and chanting about Tebow being the Messiah ????

Gee, remind me, what is the seating capacity of SA Stadium ? Does it only hold 50-70 people, making that 40+ "most" of the people in it ??

[CanDB]

I can understand some irritation with the media saturation, but it really could be much worse. If there weren't so many Tebow articles, we'd have even more garbage from that hack Adam Rank.

Even if the Tebow stuff gets old, it sure beats reading about stuff like which quarterback looks most like he could be the next pop sensation. Or who they would should be dating. Or what kind of dog most suits their personality.

I was talking more specifically about NFL.com.........and one of the topics is

"Glee" star Dianna Agron joins the list of lovely ladies who admire Tim Tebow. Who will nab the New York Jets’ quarterback first?

No, NFL.com should be sticking more along the lines of what Mayock and company serve so well at this time of year.......excellent draft coverage.....which they usually do. But cmon, enough TT stuff. And as for the Glee article......lets just say I didn't bother reading it.

[watha?]

[QUOTE=demosthenes9;4387766]I'm well aware of the meaning of the word and I used it appropriately. I'll explain the application below.




Here is the bias. You completely ignore that people can be fans of Tebow BECAUSE OF what he does on the football field.

In your mind/world, the only QBs that people can support or be fans of apparently (for "football reasons), are ones like Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Brady et al. For whatever reason, it just doesn't register with you that people can like the way a raw, young QB plays, even if he doesn't show that high a skill level.

Therefore, since Tebow isn't a good/great QB, and since he has so many fervent fans, it MUST BE due to his religious/political views.

THAT IS YOUR BIAS. It affects the way you view just about everything with Tebow, including his fans/supporters.

Is there some percentage of his fan base that are fans because of his religion ? Sure. Is there some percentage of his fan base that are fans due to his political positions (even though he hasn't said much in the way of politics) ? Sure.

But you can't even begin to make the case that those people make up the majority of his fan base.



It might be a fair statement of your thoughts, but that doesn't make it the truth.




I think you are drastically overstating the case.






Oh, BS. ANYONE and EVERYONE who supported Tebow on this board were frequently referred to by those monikers.

I'll give you two simple facts as an example. Fact 1: Most young QBs take time to develop, they aren't good/great their first year as a starter. Fact 2. Most young QBs have trouble reading NFL defenses.

Guess what ? If you dared state either of those 2 facts when discussing Tebow's performance last year, you were labelled as a Tebot/Tebowite.

Heck, this is another level of bias on your part, in my opinion. Whether you were a fan of the Broncos or not, if you defended Tebow with any FACTS that would apply to most other QBs in the league, yep, you were a mindless Tebowite, not a real football fan who knew something about the game.





BS here as well. It was the irrationality of the positions many of you took that I had issue with.




Oh, so now you've backed off to some degree and are saying that "probably" aren't indicative of "most" of his supporters ?? And you are finally recognizing/admitting that people might be fans of his because of what he did on the field.

Hey, it's a start.






What's my explanation for it then ? Hmmm, let me think.... Could have sworn that I already made some comments about this. Oh yeah, I did IN THE VERY POST THAT YOU REPLIED TO:

=headshake. Seriously dude. Didn't cross your mind that he gets attention because:

the "experts" said that he wouldn't be a first round draft pick, yet he was ?
That the "experts" said he would never be an NFL QB, but he is?
That the "experts" said that he would never start an NFL game, but he did? That the "experts" said that he would never win in the NFL as a QB but he did ?
That the "experts" said that he couldn't sustain it, but he did?
That the "experts" said he couldn't take a team to the playoffs, but he did ?
That the "experts" said that he had no chance whatsoever of beating Pittsburgh, but he did ??




Wow, 40 whole people ? You are seriously basing your opinion off the 40+ people that you saw dressed up and chanting about Tebow being the Messiah ????

Gee, remind me, what is the seating capacity of SA Stadium ? Does it only hold 50-70 people, making that 40+ "most" of the people in it ??

1. your opinion, i dont see what alistor said as being bias.
2. most young qb are not hype and talk about 24/7 nor do they garner all the credit for team win while playing poorly like tebow.
3. dont kid yourself, one of tebow popularity stem from his open boatshowing of his religious faith, good thing he's christian, imagine where he'll be if it was some other ...

[broncoFan!]

I didn't have to click on much of anything to see how many times he was involved on the NFL.com front page.

You can be annoyed with me......I just think it's beyond overkill, and we are missing out on a ton of other great football / human interest stories that I would prefer to discover, in traditional sources.

Yah, I see your point and for the record I just went to NFL.com.

However, I can't deny that I like the kid, I followed him out of college and I got my wish when Mcd drafted him. I can't ask for much more.

[CanDB]

Yah, I see your point and for the record I just went to NFL.com.

However, I can't deny that I like the kid, I followed him out of college and I got my wish when Mcd drafted him. I can't ask for much more.

I don't blame you for being a fan. I still like the guy.

Funny thing, the NFL.com page has changed a bit today, but it seems the number of Tebow articles stayed about the same, even if one or two changed (or so it seems).....now there's something about him being booed at a baseball game. Yet another one of those articles!!! But being booed in NY is not exactly starting a new trend is it???

[Oilersfan34]

You know, there is a great simple way to solve the Tebow media thing. Stop clicking on the links.

I guess I get annoyed about how people complain about him. He's a great kid, a great role model, and he's someone in the sports world that kids can look up to.

He is no role model for my kids. That's my job as a father.