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stretch14
02-08-2008, 09:52 AM
If we address some other concerns in FA or through trades I would be very happy with this draft.

http://www.football.com/nflexclusives/d_j_boyer_mock_draft.html


Round 1

1(1). Miami Dolphins

Chris Long Defensive End Virginia

2(2). St. Louis Rams

Jake Long Offensive Tackle Michigan

3(3). Oakland Raiders+

*Darren McFadden Running Back Arkansas

4(4). Atlanta Falcons+

Matt Ryan Quarterback Boston College

5(5). Kansas City Chiefs+

Glen Dorsey Defensive Tackle LSU

6(6). New York Jets

*Vernon Gholsten Defensive End Ohio State

7(7). New England Patriots (From San Francisco)

Antoine Cason Cornerback Arizona

8(8). Baltimore Ravens

Brian Brohm Quarterback Louisville

9(9). Cincinnati Bengals

Sedrick Ellis Defensive Tackle USC

10(10). New Orleans Saints

Mike Jenkins Cornerback South Florida

11(11). Buffalo Bills

*DeSean Jackson Wide Receiver California

12(12). Denver Broncos

*Kenny Phillips Safety Miami (Fla.)

13(13). Carolina Panthers

Andre Woodson Quarterback Kentucky

14(14). Chicago Bears

*Ryan Clady Offensive Tackle Boise State

15(15). Detroit Lions

Gosder Cherilus Offensive Tackle Boston College

16(16). Arizona Cardinals

*Felix Jones Running Back Arkansas

17(17). Minnesota Vikings

*Malcolm Kelly Wide Receiver Oklahoma

18(18). Houston Texans

*Jonathan Stewart Running Back Oregon

19(19). Philadelphia Eagles

*Derrick Harvey Defensive End Florida

20(20). Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Keith Rivers Linebacker USC

21(21). Washington Redskins

*Calais Campbell Defensive End Miami (Fla.)

22(22). Dallas Cowboys (From Cleveland)

*Aqib Talib Cornerback Kansas

23(23). Pittsburgh Steelers

*James Hardy Wide Receiver Indiana

24(24). Tennessee Titans

*Reggie Smith Cornerback Oklahoma

25(25). Seattle Seahawks

*Rashard Mendenhall Running Back Illinois

26(26). Jacksonville Jaguars

Quentin Groves Linebacker Auburn

27(27). San Diego Chargers

Sam Baker Offensive Tackle USC

28(28). Dallas Cowboys

Adarius Bowman Wide Receiver Oklahoma State
29(29). San Francisco 49ers (From Indianapolis)

*Jamaal Charles Running Back Texas

30(30). Green Bay Packers

Chris Williams Offensive Tackle Vanderbilt

31(31). New England Patriots (Pick Forfeited)

Pick Forfeited

32(32). New York Giants

*Pat Sims Defensive Tackle Auburn


Round 2

1(33). Miami Dolphins

Tracy Porter Cornerback Indiana

2(34). St. Louis Rams

*Phillip Merling Defensive End Clemson

3(35). New York Jets

*Martellus Bennett Tight End Texas A&M

4(36). Oakland Raiders+

Jeff Otah Offensive Tackle Pittsburgh

5(37). Atlanta Falcons+

*Ray Rice Running Back Rutgers


6(38). Kansas City Chiefs+

King Dunlap Offensive Tackle Auburn

7(39). Baltimore Ravens

Wallace Gilberry Defensive End Alabama

8(40). San Francisco 49ers

*Branden Albert Offensive Guard Virginia

9(41). Detroit Lions

Leodis McKelvin Cornerback Troy

10(42). Cincinnati Bengals

Dan Conner Linebacker Penn State

11(43). New Orleans Saints

Ali Highsmith Linebacker LSU

12(44). Buffalo Bills

Chris Ellis Defensive End Virginia Tech

13(45). Denver Broncos

*Earl Bennett Wide Receiver Vanderbilt

14(46). Carolina Panthers

Quinton Demps Safety UTEP

15(47). Chicago Bears

Chad Henne Quarterback Michigan

16(48). Philadelphia Eagles

Chris Johnson Running Back East Carolina

17(49). Arizona Cardinals

Trae Williams Cornerback South Florida

18(50). Minnesota Vikings

*Erin Henderson Linebacker Maryland

19(51). Atlanta Falcons (From Houston )

Red Bryant Defensive Tackle Texas A&M

20(52). Washington Redskins

*Brandon Flowers Cornerback Virginia Tech

21(53). Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Joe Flacco Quarterback Delaware

22(54). Seattle Seahawks

Heath Benedict Offensive Tackle Newberry

23(55). Cleveland Browns

*Kevin Smith Running Back Central Florida

24(56). Pittsburgh Steelers

Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Cornerback Tennessee State

25(57). Tennessee Titans

D.J. Hall Wide Receiver Alabama

26(58). Miami Dolphins (From San Diego)

Martin Rucker Tight End Missouri

27(59). Jacksonville Jaguars

Early Doucet Wide Receiver LSU

28(60). Green Bay Packers

*Jack Ikegwounu Cornerback Wisconsin

29(61). Dallas Cowboys

Limas Sweed Wide Receiver Texas

30(62). Indianapolis Colts

Xavier Adibi Linebacker Virginia Tech

31(63). New England Patriots

Kenny Iwebema Defensive End Iowa

32(64). New York Giants

*Anthony Collins Offensive Tackle Kansas

silkamilkamonic
02-08-2008, 10:31 AM
Ugh, not me.

If they wanna go defense, fine. Everybody knows the front 7 is what does it defensively. Champ Bailey even said so himself.

jlarsiii
02-08-2008, 10:46 AM
Ugh, not me.

If they wanna go defense, fine. Everybody knows the front 7 is what does it defensively. Champ Bailey even said so himself.

Agreed. Phillips may prove to be a consumate pro as a safety, but based on the talent on the board with our pick at 12 it would be reach IMO.

cutlerfan
02-08-2008, 10:48 AM
I like the Earl Pick :salute:

Max Power
02-08-2008, 11:00 AM
Now this is a mock draft I can dig. It would be a tough choice between Phillips and Keith Rivers in the 1st round, but I'd go with KP, especially if Lynch retires (which I think he will).

Gr3yStreet
02-08-2008, 11:36 AM
Kenny would be GREAT. But I agree with some others that 12 is a high pick for him. I would love to trade down and get more picks or a DT or something and pick him further down.

Bowie Man
02-08-2008, 12:23 PM
As previously stated, KP is a reach at 12 but I'm not against him IF Lynch retires. As most of you know if Ellis falls to 7 or 8 I'd like to try for him.:salute:

gyldenlove
02-08-2008, 12:29 PM
If we can have Keith Rivers or Ryan Clady and we take Kenny Philips, we have officially lost our marbles.

Bowie Man
02-08-2008, 12:34 PM
If we can have Keith Rivers or Ryan Clady and we take Kenny Philips, we have officially lost our marbles.

If Lynch doesn't retire I agree, but what if he does?:salute:

lancane
02-08-2008, 12:40 PM
If Lynch doesn't retire I agree, but what if he does?:salute:

That is when you sign Ken Hamlin! ;)

Bowie Man
02-08-2008, 12:45 PM
That is when you sign Ken Hamlin! ;)

I like Hamlin, we might go for him anyway since Lynch will surely retire next year. Lynch might pull a Favre though.:D

stretch14
02-08-2008, 08:56 PM
First off Lancane sorry but you need to change your sig. Dansby is being franchise tagged. Second you all think Kenny Phillips is a reach right now but just wait until the combine. Every year in all mock drafts before the combine people are always saying so and so is not a top 15 pick but after the combine that all changes. Kenny Phillips is widely considered the top saftey and at the combine he will prove this. He will run a top 3 time for Safeties in the 40 and in most of the drills he will out perform everyone else. Brandon Merriweather last year was considered to be a 2nd round player up until the combine. He had a good week put up some good numbers and look the Patriots jump all over him. Laron Landry was considered a first round pick up until the combine but not a top 10 player, he then runs a ridiculous 40 and performs well everywhere else and is drafted top 10. I believe Kenny will be similar in that he will move up peoples boards quickly. Maybe not so good that he will be a top 10 but definitely not a reach at 12 anymore.

stnzed
02-08-2008, 09:23 PM
Landry was going in the lottery the second he came back for his SR season! Phillips will need more than just a 4.38 40 to go at No6 like Landry did.

So, are the Safety fans just resigned to the fact that there is not much value at this point for DT's, DE's and LB's at No12?

Or are you so ridiculously enamored with drafting a Safety that you are completely blind to the fact that drafting a safety will do next to nothing to help fix what's wrong with the run defense?

I think it's the latter......

BroncoKazuki
02-08-2008, 09:49 PM
Landry was going in the lottery the second he came back for his SR season! Phillips will need more than just a 4.38 40 to go at No6 like Landry did.

So, are the Safety fans just resigned to the fact that there is not much value at this point for DT's, DE's and LB's at No12?

Or are you so ridiculously enamored with drafting a Safety that you are completely blind to the fact that drafting a safety will do next to nothing to help fix what's wrong with the run defense?

I think it's the latter......

Correct, we fix the front 7 give our secondary a pass rush and run defense we can go into the later rounds drafting a S without getting a 1st round Safety.

Thats why the FA pickups for the Broncos will be key to set the tone of the draft and who gets drafted in the first.

Gr3yStreet
02-08-2008, 11:35 PM
Correct, we fix the front 7 give our secondary a pass rush and run defense we can go into the later rounds drafting a S without getting a 1st round Safety.

Thats why the FA pickups for the Broncos will be key to set the tone of the draft and who gets drafted in the first.

No way!

A HUUUUGE reason ANY front four is successful is because the secondary keep the receivers coverd.

I dont know how many of you watched post game of the SB, but the made a point on ESPN of how great the secondary of the giants played and how it gave them time to get to Brady.

Phillips is a very versatile player who can be used at either safety position with or without John Lynch.

If Lynch stays, he is fast enough and smart enough to play free. If Lynch stays, he is tough enough to play strong, ESPECIALLY if we get Sam Brandon back, and he adds youth, and more importantly, ledership to our defense.

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/kenny-phillips.htm

"He is a very quick learner and leader on football field, but he also showed his intelligence off the field, after being chosen to the 2006 ACC Academic Football Team. Although Miami stumbled from their football dominance as a team last year, the defense still played outstanding and with an experienced secondary and defensive line returning, Phillips can be allowed to be the playmaker he is."

Im not necessarily saying he could single handedly turn out defense around, but he would be a key and valuable addition to our defense, and hopefully could help out our young D line by providing some skill, speed and youth at safety.

Especially in a draft full of depth at ALOT of positions (RB, and LB come to mind right away) there are few (one really) first round quality safety.

BroncoKazuki
02-09-2008, 12:04 AM
No way!

A HUUUUGE reason ANY front four is successful is because the secondary keep the receivers coverd.

I dont know how many of you watched post game of the SB, but the made a point on ESPN of how great the secondary of the giants played and how it gave them time to get to Brady.

Phillips is a very versatile player who can be used at either safety position with or without John Lynch.

If Lynch stays, he is fast enough and smart enough to play free. If Lynch stays, he is tough enough to play strong, ESPECIALLY if we get Sam Brandon back, and he adds youth, and more importantly, ledership to our defense.

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/kenny-phillips.htm

"He is a very quick learner and leader on football field, but he also showed his intelligence off the field, after being chosen to the 2006 ACC Academic Football Team. Although Miami stumbled from their football dominance as a team last year, the defense still played outstanding and with an experienced secondary and defensive line returning, Phillips can be allowed to be the playmaker he is."

Im not necessarily saying he could single handedly turn out defense around, but he would be a key and valuable addition to our defense, and hopefully could help out our young D line by providing some skill, speed and youth at safety.

Especially in a draft full of depth at ALOT of positions (RB, and LB come to mind right away) there are few (one really) first round quality safety.

Ok... let me get this strait,
so your telling me that its smart to trade down to where Phillips is, Mind you that if we do target Phillips i can surely garentee that whoever grabs our spot will get either Stewart or Mendenhall and make us pay for it when we play them unless we can fix our run defense.

Also If i remember during that Superbowl the Pats had a problem throwing the ball because Brady was under sieged almost every play by the Giants Defensive line. I dont care how well a Safety, CB can play but no man can cover a WR for 4+ seconds and hope that they can sustain keeping in stride.

Hmm doesn't that sound with the problem of why Dre and Champ got burned every so often. As well as our Safeties having to stay on a man quite a lot longer then what they are suppose to. It sounds like the problem isnt our secondary its our front 7.

Sure yes we could use a upgrade at Safety but just not Phillips and I doubt he'll be the 'leader' when you got Champ and Dre who have more experience then him to actually lead the defense, as well as DJ. Unless you meant Lynch then disregard that leader part.

The fact is simple, fix the front 7 draft a quality SS/FS to learn under Lynch.

thats why I said, the Off season will set the tone on how we draft.

If we sign a S, DT, OT, WR its more likely we'll go Offense in the first unless by some miracle Ellis or Dorsey fall into our laps.

stretch14
02-09-2008, 10:53 AM
First off Landry was not a top 10 pick before the combine. There was actual a lot of discussion about who the top safety was between him, Nelson, and Griffin. Then at the combine he blew up and all the announcers were like he just put himself in the top 10. As for you saying drafting a S would be a mistake because we have other needs. If you read the first thread I said if we addressed other needs in FA (meaning DT.) Even then though unless someone stands out at DT from now until the draft I definitely don't think we should draft one at 12. I actually don't approve of moving down either and here is why, think back to the 2002 Draft when we drafted Ashley Lelie. I know he was considered the be the best WR that year but I saw to many other players with more talent that we should have grabbed instead. Such as Ed Reed and Lito Sheppard. See now a days you can't hope to grab a secondary in later rounds and hope they turn out to be Pro-Bowlers. If you don't grab Dorsey or Ellis this year the drop off for DT is huge. Also after those guys the difference between the 3rd rated DT on my board Balmer who is projected later 1st to mid 2nd to someone like Dre Moore who is 8th on my board and projected to be a 2nd day guy is actually not that drastic. Kenny Phillips and the next best safety is drastic so if we stay at 12 Kenny Phillips is my choice. Also Mendenhall is not a need he is just a plus. I would be happy to have him on my team but I'd rather not miss out on another Ed Reed caliber player.