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theshiverman
09-08-2008, 09:47 AM
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080908/SPORTS01/809080337/1027


For starters there was the left knee injury Vince Young suffered in the fourth quarter. Also up for debate was something maybe just as serious -- whether Young quit on the Titans before the injury. Those two issues overshadowed the fact the Titans were able to grind out a 17-10 victory against their AFC South rival with a Herculean-type effort from the defense. ... Young, injured on a hit by Jaguars linebacker Daryl Smith, left LP Field on crutches and in a knee brace. He was taken to his truck in a golf cart and was driven home by a friend. He did not speak to the media. The Titans called the injury a sprained knee and Coach Jeff Fisher said he doesn't think it's serious. There were indications late Sunday the injury is a sprained MCL, which could sideline Young for two to four weeks. Midway through the fourth quarter, after throwing his second interception, Young headed to the sideline amid a chorus of boos at LP Field. He pushed away defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, who was trying to console him, and took a seat on the bench. When it was time for the Titans to take the field following a three-and-out by the Jaguars, Young appeared as if he didn't want to go back in. ... Asked about it five times during his postgame news conference, Fisher never changed his story. "It's not an issue,'' he said. "It is OK; he is our quarterback. It is not a controversy. � We are lucky we have Kerry.'' Teammates seemed confused. Young eventually ran on the field late and ended up getting hurt four plays later. -- Tennessean

saltybuggah
09-08-2008, 10:02 AM
being that young was considering retirement who knows what the guy is thinking :confused:

he probably was just frustrated about his/team play and looked a lil sluggish... the injury could possible be a result of him not giving a 110% on the field effort... injuries happen when players dont give it there all...

stnzed
09-08-2008, 10:08 AM
I forgot about the considering retirement thing, if these things are true, somebody needs to have a Come To Jesus meeting with Young to find out where his head is at.

The NFL seems to be the first adversity he's faced in his football life, apparently he's not handling it too well......

NinjaPirateFunk
09-08-2008, 01:34 PM
It is OK; he is our quarterback. It is not a controversy
Wooden PR statements like this are like listening to lawyers say "my client has no comment". Ugghhh shut up, you're so full of crap Fisher it's bursting at the seams. I know he had to say it but it's so dull and irritating.

What I'm wondering, is how many incidents do we have to go through to realize Young is a complete and utter moron? Punching a teammate over nothing with his throwing hand. Getting on TV yelling "cant nobody tell me nuttin!" like a child easily influenced by his crappy music. Making horrible decisions all the time and now this. Maybe the wonderlic score should've indicated something.

Or what I'm wondering even more, is how many times his backup has to come in and look and play better before someone just says "ok to hell with this guy, he can't even throw properly and no matter what we do he's not going to be a decent passer in this league".

It's naturally more exciting to reward and cheer on and hype up individual players rather than the group. It's one of the downfalls of our society I believe. We feel it in football as much as anything else and what I'm getting at, is we rewarded and hyped Young in college and built him up to be a God based upon what he did on a team that was built to kinda make him look like a star. Now when you yank that player out of a comfortable atmosphere and put him in a league where everyone's faster and better, and he has to do a little bit on his own, he falls into a million pieces and can't do anything. All because it was more fun to get excited and go overboard on a single player rather than realize it might've been the group who was responsible for college success. You can tell me the Titans offense isn't that good but the line isn't bad. The receivers in the NFL can run routes well if they're given time, New England proved that in the early millennium. He just can't hit an open man to save his life and his decision making is absolutely stupefying.

If the Titans have a chance at another young, capable passer, maybe it should be time to take it and try to trade Young. I dunno much from behind a monitor not like Jeff Fisher would about his team but this is getting silly.

Chris Wade
09-08-2008, 02:23 PM
It's the samo he was a number one pick and we've invested millions and we don't make million dollar boo boo's..........My adopted poster is kapaibro. Mine

Cutmeister6
09-08-2008, 03:36 PM
Aren't you guys glad Bud Adams is a Texas fan and not a Vanderbilt fan?
Bud was the only guy who wanted to draft Young and now he is looking more and more like an epic failure. Fish was the guy who gave Shanny a heads up on Cutler.

VY acts like a child, can't take criticism, and yesterday he actually gave up on his team...AND THEY WERE LEADING in the game. The kid is unbelievably immature and selfish.

stnzed
09-08-2008, 04:45 PM
As Jaime Dukes puts it, the Titans absolutely have to go out and get Young an elite WR to make up for his deficiencies (SP?), like it's that easy.

But if Young doesn't improve within the next two seasons, maybe the Titans should draft another QB and move Young to WR instead of bringing in even more WR's for him......ya know......kill two birds kinda thing.

If he doesn't make it as a QB he should consider himself lucky to have an opportunity to more to WR, the Andre Ware's and David Klingler's didn't have that option.

There is still a lot of time to prove he can do it, though, but he is getting the benefit of too many excuses......

GridironChamp
09-08-2008, 05:33 PM
Called he was bust from the get go...

He has had more success than I expected though.

This is what happens with Wonderlic scores of 7 or 13 (i dont remember what he got)

Cutmeister6
09-09-2008, 06:42 AM
WOW......

Concerns for Titans quarterback prompt midnight meeting

Posted: Sep 9, 2008 08:19 AM

Updated: Sep 9, 2008 08:28 AM



Concerns about the well-being of Titans quarterback Vince Young prompted an early morning meeting at Titans headquarters.

Metro police officers and Tennessee Titans Coach Jeff Fisher gathered at Baptist Sports Park around 12:30 a.m. Tuesday to meet with Vince Young after trying to locate him.

According to sources, questions about Young's state of mind began when the quarter back left his home abruptly at 7:30 p.m. Monday.

According to those same sources, Young seemed emotionally down and left his cell phone behind.

Titans officials alerted Metro police to be on the lookout for Young's SUV.

http://www.wkrn.com/global/story.asp?s=8976169

theshiverman
09-09-2008, 06:54 AM
WOW......

Concerns for Titans quarterback prompt midnight meeting

Posted: Sep 9, 2008 08:19 AM

Updated: Sep 9, 2008 08:28 AM



Concerns about the well-being of Titans quarterback Vince Young prompted an early morning meeting at Titans headquarters.

Metro police officers and Tennessee Titans Coach Jeff Fisher gathered at Baptist Sports Park around 12:30 a.m. Tuesday to meet with Vince Young after trying to locate him.

According to sources, questions about Young's state of mind began when the quarter back left his home abruptly at 7:30 p.m. Monday.

According to those same sources, Young seemed emotionally down and left his cell phone behind.

Titans officials alerted Metro police to be on the lookout for Young's SUV.

http://www.wkrn.com/global/story.asp?s=8976169

Man, what a turd, ok so you have a bad game (Team still won dumb azz!) the crowd booing him is making him depressed so he has to pull a 'Drama Queen' and run off in tears like a 15 year old girl running away from home because she got grounded, what a weak minded fool! This guy is supposed to be a grown man and a Team Leader, what a joke.

CJ_5256
09-09-2008, 09:43 AM
Man, what a turd, ok so you have a bad game (Team still won dumb azz!) the crowd booing him is making him depressed so he has to pull a 'Drama Queen' and run off in tears like a 15 year old girl running away from home because she got grounded, what a weak minded fool! This guy is supposed to be a grown man and a Team Leader, what a joke.

I think you're totally missing the point of that post. That's pretty scary knowing that the head coach had to call the police because he was worried about the mental state of one his players. Its sad to see whats happening with Vince Young. not from a football standpoint at all

Mount-n-Groan
09-09-2008, 09:50 AM
I think you're totally missing the point of that post. That's pretty scary knowing that the head coach had to call the police because he was worried about the mental state of one his players. Its sad to see whats happening with Vince Young. not from a football standpoint at all

Yep. Especially since it was reported that he left in said mental state and was known to have a gun. I think the inference is obvious - people that care about him and are close to him were afraid that he was suicidal. This is moving beyond the realm of football and in to the realm of life (and death).

Ravage!!!
09-09-2008, 09:55 AM
Man, what a turd, ok so you have a bad game (Team still won dumb azz!) the crowd booing him is making him depressed so he has to pull a 'Drama Queen' and run off in tears like a 15 year old girl running away from home because she got grounded, what a weak minded fool! This guy is supposed to be a grown man and a Team Leader, what a joke.


I think you're totally missing the point of that post. That's pretty scary knowing that the head coach had to call the police because he was worried about the mental state of one his players. Its sad to see whats happening with Vince Young. not from a football standpoint at all

You nailed it CJ. This kid isn't a 'turd'... he simply isn't able to handle the criticisms and boo's that are coming down on him in the NFL. Some people will simply say "get over it" and whatevers, but there is obviously something seriously upsetting in this kid's mental state. He considered retirement after 2 years in the NFL because he wasn't able to handle the pressures and the press and the fans (or their comments)... and he's had a break-down.

theshiverman
09-09-2008, 09:57 AM
I think you're totally missing the point of that post. That's pretty scary knowing that the head coach had to call the police because he was worried about the mental state of one his players. Its sad to see whats happening with Vince Young. not from a football standpoint at all

Bah! he is an over grown diva, he just wanted somebody to baby him, come hold his hand after a tough game, there hasent been any reports before of him having mental problems, but there have been reports of him acting like a spoiled brat, like getting his old offensive cordinator fired.

ebsoria
09-09-2008, 10:56 AM
BULL****! If I called about my mom theyd ask- "How long has she been missing?" "uh.. about 7 hours..." "Okay, we can't file a missing persons report til she's been gone for (x) hours, call back then." I feel for the Titans and their qb, I feel for VY, I hope he's okay. I dont ever wish harm on anyone at anytime, but BULL****!

NinjaPirateFunk
09-09-2008, 12:04 PM
I hope his mental state is recovered before his life is changed by it. Though at the same time, he's raking in millions of dollars and gets to play a fun game some of us would play for free. So what you were bood, it'd not the biggest problem in the world.

I think maybe two things should happen-maybe they need to try and get him some help, like maybe in the form of a shrink and keep this kid from going overboard. Maybe help him grow up too because I don't think he's done that. His actions could either speak to being a mental breakdown, or, a temper tantrum. Sad but usually the symptoms are the same. It sounds insensitive but it's true.

Secondly, they need to focus on the future and not only is Young's play unacceptably poor, but this will most likely kill morale and have the team not believing in him. You can't be a leader and do this, like an upset teenager. You're a grown man. If it's his mental state, than he's got to get help or risk losing his job. There's a place to be warm and fuzzy outside of football but in the world of football, man or up lose your job.

I was thinking about this when I saw the article earlier-how much of this, has to do with this guy being coddled most of his life? I don't know for sure, but I mean c'mon, he was probably a star in high school, which means you get away with murder. He was a star in college and think about it-how the hell in the world could this guy ever obtain any sort of completed university education? He was obviously guided along so he could keep playing football. Sad reality of university sports, because how many of the worlds brightest minds still struggle with university? And they don't have to worry about being a national football star, either. Think of how many fools the NFL has playing at a given time, and remember-supposedly they all completed school. Right. Maybe now that no one is holding his hand and it's time to do something on your own when the chips are down, he can't handle it. Maybe it's why alot of players turn out to be busts. I don't know, who here does, but I think it's highly likely.

Overtime
09-09-2008, 02:27 PM
i live in Nashville, and from what I know of the situation, Vince Young and Jeff Fisher don't exactly have a very good relationship, and Young is in a make or break year. He's got a lot of pressure on him, the crowd expects him to be like he was in that Rose Bowl win against USC, the media is on him about his poor passing, the coaches are trying to make him play their system, rather than designing their offense to match his strengths.

All in all, I think the Titans pick of Vince Young was very poor. His leadership is a phenomenal attribute when the guy is in the right system, with the right coach, and the right supporting cast, however this is not the case. Jeff Fisher is trying to get Vince Young to adapt to his style of coaching, rather than adapting his coaching to fit Vince Youngs style of play.

I also think there is more to this than either Young or Fisher are letting on, something has happened to the relationship or within the organization, that is or may be leading to a lot of this as well, that the fans and general public aren't being told.

I think the Titans will ultimately go another direction after the season ends, which may be the best thing for Vince Young, so he can find the type of coaching style and Offensive System that best suits his skills and abilities.

theshiverman
09-09-2008, 10:16 PM
Yep. Especially since it was reported that he left in said mental state and was known to have a gun. I think the inference is obvious - people that care about him and are close to him were afraid that he was suicidal. This is moving beyond the realm of football and in to the realm of life (and death).

Its just like i said, the guy was putting on a show to get some Sympathy, he wants people to baby him and hold his hand, he wants a hug, he cant take it when the fans get on him, it hurts his little feelings, so he goes and pulls a drama queen, gets everybody worked up worrying about him , leaves his cell phone at home on purpose and then it comes out today that the whole time he was at a buddys house eating chicken wings and watching monday night football and more then likely sitting back and loving the fact that people were out worried sick about him knowing he would get the 'Special Attention' he needed when he got back home, now the fans will feel sorry for him and cheer him even when he stinks it up because they will be so worried he might have a break down if they boo him for his crappy play.....this guy is a turd.:coffee: