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Ravage!!!
10-15-2008, 02:57 PM
Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-trade

Tony Gonzalez figured there's no way I'd be writing a story today referring to him as Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez.

But after the NFL's trading deadline came and went and the future Hall Of Famer wasn't moved, he was wrought with a variety of emotions from disappointment to anger to trying to cope with damage caused by his trade request. But more than anything, there's confusion.


"I'm shocked," he said in an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com. "It didn't make sense not to do this deal. It's winding down for me and this team is rebuilding. If they said from the get-go, 'No, we're not going to trade you,' that would've been better than how this whole thing unfolded. But that's not what happened.

"Last night I talked to Carl (Peterson, Chiefs President and GM) and I point-blank asked him what it would take to get it done. I wanted to know if it could happen with a fourth (-round pick). He started talking about a second and a fifth like the Shockey deal. Nobody is going to trade a second for a 32-year-old tight end. All along Carl said he would do something that works for both parties. Then he talked about how he traded a third for Willie Roaf, and he made it pretty clear to me that's what was going to get it done. That was certainly fair.

"I know teams offered a third and in the end, Carl made the asking price a second. I'm very disappointed that he didn't go through with it after he told me he was going to try to make it happen. I've been around this league a long time, it's a business. There's nothing I can do about it. I was pissed off about it, but I'll get over it. I won't let it affect my play and my preparation."

So where does he go from here? Gonzalez insists he'll do whatever it takes to make the Chiefs a better team. But first he says he will clear the air with many of his teammates.

"I'm going to go in tomorrow and get up in front of the team, no coaches, just my teammates and let them know exactly where I was coming from," he said. "Like I said, they keep talking about the future here and trading me would've helped build for the future. I love Kansas City and will always be a Chief, always! But my road is coming to an end, and I didn't want it to end on a team that is rebuilding.

"When I signed my deal a few years ago, it was to end my career here. But I also felt we had real potential, I didn't see us ending up with a rebuilding effort. But once they cleaned house, and when they traded Jared (Allen), it was clearly to rebuild. They have a bright future here. Some of the players they've drafted are going to be great. They are on the right road, but by the time they travel it, I'll probably be done. That's why I asked for this, and I was certainly led to believe they understood this and would help accommodate it."

Gonzalez, after hanging up with Peterson last night, was pretty sure he'd soon pick up a new zip code. As the day progressed, several teams involved began increasing their offers. A few came up to a fourth while a pair came up to a third. The Chiefs, however, will remain steadfast with a second rounder.

"If I was 28-years-old, we wouldn't even be having this conversation," said the league's all-time receiving leader for tight ends. "We've been talking about it for three weeks now, so we've had plenty of time to get it done. In the end, they had their agenda, and I don't know if they were serious about trading me or whether they were just trying to appease me.

"But you know what? I can't cry about it. If anything, this has motivated me even more. I'm a Chief, will be happy to be a Chief and will bust my butt for the Chiefs. I was never not happy being a Chief. I just wanted the chance to spend my last couple of years winning a title, not rebuilding. But I'm here to help rebuild, I'll work with all our young guys and get after it like I always have."

Tony Gonzalez: "Nobody is going to trade a second (-round pick) for a 32-year-old tight end."

BarkdogRX7
10-15-2008, 03:15 PM
I can see this from both sides, I mean I know KC wants to do right by TG and trade him but I think everyone learned from the most lop-sided trade ever (Moss to NE for a 4th rd pick...and they got CB named John Bowie)

I don't think anyone wants that to happen again, now stuff like Roy Williams being traded for the house is a bit insane but I think a 2nd rd or 3rd pick for a 32 yr old is fair?

He'll be a free agent and maybe he'll wanna play for us since SD has gates, usually when players look to scorn there former team they play for a rival! We could unload Graham and pick up TG, I'd be stoked

BroncoManiac_69
10-15-2008, 03:18 PM
Well it seems he is taking it OK I guess. To be honest, I couldn't imagine him being anything other than a Chief but understand how the aging tight end feels.

John Lynch got slammed around here for the same reason. Knowing his career is near over and wanted a better chance and winning the big one before retirement.

I know there have been many discussions revolving around that scenario on the both the negative and positive side of things.

I believe Tony has surpassed Sharpe in the record books by now have always somewhat admired him.

KCLadyFan will be very happy he stayed. :D

Ravage!!!
10-15-2008, 03:26 PM
I can see this from both sides, I mean I know KC wants to do right by TG and trade him but I think everyone learned from the most lop-sided trade ever (Moss to NE for a 4th rd pick...and they got CB named John Bowie)

I don't think anyone wants that to happen again, now stuff like Roy Williams being traded for the house is a bit insane but I think a 2nd rd or 3rd pick for a 32 yr old is fair?

He'll be a free agent and maybe he'll wanna play for us since SD has gates, usually when players look to scorn there former team they play for a rival! We could unload Graham and pick up TG, I'd be stoked

I don't think he comes a FA this year. As he stated, he just signed a new contract a couple years ago with the expectations of finishing as a Chief.

ebsoria
10-15-2008, 03:36 PM
I don't think he comes a FA this year. As he stated, he just signed a new contract a couple years ago with the expectations of finishing as a Chief.

Yep, signed a five year deal which means he's DONE. It's at the discretion of KC here on out. I do like that he says he's still gonna give it his all. If he can still perform and does still perform then he'll maintain my respect. But if he slacks or holds out next year then he can rot in hell.... I mean.. rot in KC.

Chris Wade
10-16-2008, 07:54 PM
As I posted in the other Tony G thread a talking head on NFL network had a commentary basically stating don't fall for the woe is Tony bs because Buffalo offered a second and Tony nixed the deal.

KCLadyFan
10-16-2008, 08:00 PM
Well it seems he is taking it OK I guess. To be honest, I couldn't imagine him being anything other than a Chief but understand how the aging tight end feels.

John Lynch got slammed around here for the same reason. Knowing his career is near over and wanted a better chance and winning the big one before retirement.

I know there have been many discussions revolving around that scenario on the both the negative and positive side of things.

I believe Tony has surpassed Sharpe in the record books by now have always somewhat admired him.

KCLadyFan will be very happy he stayed. :D

I have always loved seeing Tony on the field but I am not happy for him at all.He deserves more and Carl is a snake.I don't blame Tony at all and I wasn't upset that he wanted to leave.

Yes he hold all the records for a TE but that means very little in a way when you're stuck with a crappy team.I would of loved to see him go to the Giants or a team that has a chance to make a run at the SB this year or before Tony decides to call it quits.

KCLadyFan
10-16-2008, 08:02 PM
As I posted in the other Tony G thread a talking head on NFL network had a commentary basically stating don't fall for the woe is Tony bs because Buffalo offered a second and Tony nixed the deal.

Can you provide a link of some sorts? Some kind of info that shows that this is true?

Ravage!!!
10-16-2008, 08:14 PM
As I posted in the other Tony G thread a talking head on NFL network had a commentary basically stating don't fall for the woe is Tony bs because Buffalo offered a second and Tony nixed the deal.

This is interesting if true. If thats the case, then it would change my opinion on few things. I wonder if Buffalo just wasn't a big enough contender?

KCLadyFan
10-18-2008, 08:40 AM
As I posted in the other Tony G thread a talking head on NFL network had a commentary basically stating don't fall for the woe is Tony bs because Buffalo offered a second and Tony nixed the deal.


This is interesting if true. If thats the case, then it would change my opinion on few things. I wonder if Buffalo just wasn't a big enough contender?

I knew that was BS....He wants out of KC.
In this link...he is quoted as basically saying that no one would give up a 2nd rounder for a 32 yr old TE.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/843198.html

ebsoria
10-18-2008, 09:00 AM
I knew that was BS....He wants out of KC.
In this link...he is quoted as basically saying that no one would give up a 2nd rounder for a 32 yr old TE.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/843198.html

I gotta agree with him in that no one should give up a 2nd for a 32 year old te. You can change the face of your team with a pick like that and to be honest... I love Tony and have loved him since he was a Bear, but is he big enough of an upgrade to justify a 2nd? At least his head is straight in realizing his value. I feel for him and his situation. Most players want the ring. Some want the accolades and records... but I've never seen Tony as the type who wanted anything other then to win. Like I said... if he continues to show that he's a gamer and continues this year to play and be all that he is I would expect KC to deal him and let him have his shot.

Chris Wade
10-18-2008, 12:56 PM
I knew that was BS....He wants out of KC.
In this link...he is quoted as basically saying that no one would give up a 2nd rounder for a 32 yr old TE.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/843198.html

Just repeating what I saw on TV ma'am. Please don't harm the messenger.

Chris Wade
10-18-2008, 05:15 PM
Check this link http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/15/packers-thought-they-had-a-deal-for-gonzalez/ basically it vindicates me and says the Falcons were also willing to do more and Tony wouldn't play for them either.

KCLadyFan
10-18-2008, 10:30 PM
Check this link http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/15/packers-thought-they-had-a-deal-for-gonzalez/ basically it vindicates me and says the Falcons were also willing to do more and Tony wouldn't play for them either.

Thanks for the link.That is coming from their mouths,not Tony's.Also alot has to do with what is remaining on his contract.

Also says that the other teams were willing to do more,but doesn't say what.I don't think they are a good source.This link
says more.If you're interested in reading it.


http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=7649836&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1

KCLadyFan
10-18-2008, 10:31 PM
Just repeating what I saw on TV ma'am. Please don't harm the messenger.

Not trying to harm the messenger.I am calling BS what you heard.

bd2fc
10-18-2008, 10:58 PM
Who cares???;);)

BRONCOS_OWN_U16
10-19-2008, 12:00 AM
Not trying to harm the messenger.I am calling BS what you heard.

its not bs. its true. everyone knows this except you. you just gotta accept the facts.

by the way shannon sharpe is better then tony gonzalez

KCLadyFan
10-19-2008, 07:11 AM
Who cares???;);)

I guess Ravage does since he started the thread....:cheers:

Ravage!!!
10-19-2008, 08:05 AM
its not bs. its true. everyone knows this except you. you just gotta accept the facts.

by the way shannon sharpe is better then tony gonzalez

Everyone knows that Buffalo offered a second? I don't know that. I've never heard or read that from anywhere other than from Chris on the boards here.

Chris Wade
10-19-2008, 08:18 AM
Check my latest post.

Ravage!!!
10-19-2008, 08:40 AM
Check my latest post.

Hmmmm... thats interesting. Like you said, its hard to feel sorry for a player that actually refused to play for some teams.

But at the SAME time.... the reason he wanted to leave KC was to go to a contender... not JUST to leave KC. So if he felt neither of those were contenders, I actually respect him for not going. I mean, I like that he's not wanting to leave KC for just anyone. The only reason he wants to go is to be on a contending team rather than one that is obviously rebuilding. So leaving to go to a team like Buffalo and Atlanta (although they are better than CHiefs, they aren't really TRUE contenders yet)... would only be a lateral move.

But Peterson pulling out at the last 10 minutes to try and pull a power move with the Packers is bush league, and shows why he hasn't built a good team since Schottenheimer left.