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mct1967
02-26-2010, 12:56 PM
The San Diego Chargers through out their history have shown they can't win playoff games--even when they're favored. In the last 4 years prognosticators like Chris Berman on ESPN and many others pick the Chargers to win a SB, but the Chargers can never play to their potential. The Chargers have talent, but their recent playoff loss to the Jets and their '06 playoff loss are perfect examples of their lack of focus, lack of leadership and inability to be smart on and off the field. A smart athlete doesn't stay out late partying the night before a playoff game, which is what several Chargers seem to like doing and a smart athlete doesn't get called for PF flags during a playoff game.

With LT gone and possibly Sproles gone the Chargers will have no running game. If an injury happens to Rivers, the Chargers' offense is done. Rivers the last few years has been lucky that he's had no injuries to reduce his productivity. I believe his injury-free seasons will soon come to an end. In the NFL, every starter usually has to contend with an injury every few seasons and miss games....Rivers is due. The Chargers as a team are getting old. Injuries will become more frequent...this "talented" Charger team is running out of time.

The Chargers had a mediocre defense last year and were mediocre against the pass--against the run the Chargers ranked 20th. Cro may be on the way out and Merriman has no talent left, only worthless trash-talking.

With their inability to win in the playoffs in recent years, the Chargers as a team are also losing confidence in themselves. Against the Jets, the Charger offense sputtered and had to rely on field-goal attempts. Then Kaeding (an excellent kicker) choked on all his kicks. All examples of a Charger team succumbing to playoff pressure and lack of confidence. The Colts, a supremely talented and confident team, who knows how to win in the playoffs....destroyed the Jets in the 2nd half of their playoff game.

Jackson can't seem to stay out of trouble and other Chargers keep getting in bar-fights and/or brought up on assault charges. All this is the mark on an undiciplined, out-of-control team. It seems San Diego's NFL team is correctly named.....Chargers = charges.

Norv Turner is just a "yes-man" to AJ and has no real power. Turner is the classic docile, "yes-man" coach---he was a "yes-man" to Al Davis and a "yes-man" in Washington. His only years of success were as an OC in Dallas, but a trained monkey could've been a successful OC in Dallas in the '90s, with all the HOF talent the Cowboys had at that time. Before Turner.....Marty had balls and wouldn't blindly go with what AJ wanted....so AJ (the control-freak) fires a fine coach who rebuilt a horrible Charger team into a 14-2 contender. The stupidity of Charger mgmt is beyond description.

AJ has current and former players who hate the way he runs the team and don't like his decisions. Rodney Harrison has gone on record and severely criticised AJ and other players have voiced negative viewpoints about AJ. This is why Eli Manning isn't your QB. AJ's mocking of LT in the media last year is a perfect example of his unprofessionalism.

The Chargers stadium has problems selling-out, because fans are tired of the inconsistency and playoff losses.

The Chargers had 4 seasons with a talented team to get to a SB and failed all four years. Two of those years they finished their seasons with epic playoff chokes.

The Chargers can be summed up with this sentence.....An overrated team with no heart and a team who's recent years of success will be ending, because of injuries and free-agency.

ChargersDivison
02-26-2010, 01:35 PM
The San Diego Chargers through out their history have shown they can't win playoff games--even when they're favored. In the last 4 years prognosticators like Chris Berman on ESPN and many others pick the Chargers to win a SB, but the Chargers can never play to their potential. The Chargers have talent, but their recent playoff loss to the Jets and their '06 playoff loss are perfect examples of their lack of focus, lack of leadership and inability to be smart on and off the field. A smart athlete doesn't stay out late partying the night before a playoff game, which is what several Chargers seem to like doing and a smart athlete doesn't get called for PF flags during a playoff game.

With LT gone and possibly Sproles gone the Chargers will have no running game. If an injury happens to Rivers, the Chargers' offense is done. Rivers the last few years has been lucky that he's had no injuries to reduce his productivity. I believe his injury-free seasons will soon come to an end. In the NFL, every starter usually has to contend with an injury every few seasons and miss games....Rivers is due. The Chargers as a team are getting old. Injuries will become more frequent...this "talented" Charger team is running out of time.

The Chargers had a mediocre defense last year and were mediocre against the pass--against the run the Chargers ranked 20th. Cro may be on the way out and Merriman has no talent left, only worthless trash-talking.

With their inability to win in the playoffs in recent years, the Chargers as a team are also losing confidence in themselves. Against the Jets, the Charger offense sputtered and had to rely on field-goal attempts. Then Kaeding (an excellent kicker) choked on all his kicks. All examples of a Charger team succumbing to playoff pressure and lack of confidence. The Colts, a supremely talented and confident team, who knows how to win in the playoffs....destroyed the Jets in the 2nd half of their playoff game.

Jackson can't seem to stay out of trouble and other Chargers keep getting in bar-fights and/or brought up on assault charges. All this is the mark on an undiciplined, out-of-control team. It seems San Diego's NFL team is correctly named.....Chargers = charges.

Norv Turner is just a "yes-man" to AJ and has no real power. Turner is the classic docile, "yes-man" coach---he was a "yes-man" to Al Davis and a "yes-man" in Washington. His only years of success were as an OC in Dallas, but a trained monkey could've been a successful OC in Dallas in the '90s, with all the HOF talent the Cowboys had at that time. Before Turner.....Marty had balls and wouldn't blindly go with what AJ wanted....so AJ (the control-freak) fires a fine coach who rebuilt a horrible Charger team into a 14-2 contender. The stupidity of Charger mgmt is beyond description.

AJ has current and former players who hate the way he runs the team and don't like his decisions. Rodney Harrison has gone on record and severely criticised AJ and other players have voiced negative viewpoints about AJ. This is why Eli Manning isn't your QB. AJ's mocking of LT in the media last year is a perfect example of his unprofessionalism.

The Chargers stadium has problems selling-out, because fans are tired of the inconsistency and playoff losses.

The Chargers had 4 seasons with a talented team to get to a SB and failed all four years. Two of those years they finished their seasons with epic playoff chokes.

The Chargers can be summed up with this sentence.....An overrated team with no heart and a team who's recent years of success will be ending, because of injuries and free-agency.

LMAO that's all this thread deserves.

Predicting injuries is this guys only hope. SD was 13-3 with the 31st ranked rushing offense. In 2010 their rushing game will be much better than in 08 and 09.

Literally nothing you typed was true or fact, congratulations on arguably the dumbest post on the internet in the new decade. SD will continue to own the AFCW and make the playoffs and contend for a SB as long as Rivers is QB. Ask Peyton how many games he's missed due to injury or Favre or Brees, or Eli or many other QB's.

LOL @ SD being old. Sorry kiddo that is Denver that is old, not SD. SD is one of the youngest teams. SD's defense also >> Den's defense and that was with 4 NT's on IR. Including a all world all pro probowl NT.

That's as much reply as this desperation thread deserves.

ChargersDivison
02-26-2010, 01:37 PM
The San Diego Chargers through out their history have shown they can't win playoff games--even when they're favored. In the last 4 years prognosticators like Chris Berman on ESPN and many others pick the Chargers to win a SB, but the Chargers can never play to their potential. The Chargers have talent, but their recent playoff loss to the Jets and their '06 playoff loss are perfect examples of their lack of focus, lack of leadership and inability to be smart on and off the field. A smart athlete doesn't stay out late partying the night before a playoff game, which is what several Chargers seem to like doing and a smart athlete doesn't get called for PF flags during a playoff game.

With LT gone and possibly Sproles gone the Chargers will have no running game. If an injury happens to Rivers, the Chargers' offense is done. Rivers the last few years has been lucky that he's had no injuries to reduce his productivity. I believe his injury-free seasons will soon come to an end. In the NFL, every starter usually has to contend with an injury every few seasons and miss games....Rivers is due. The Chargers as a team are getting old. Injuries will become more frequent...this "talented" Charger team is running out of time.

The Chargers had a mediocre defense last year and were mediocre against the pass--against the run the Chargers ranked 20th. Cro may be on the way out and Merriman has no talent left, only worthless trash-talking.

With their inability to win in the playoffs in recent years, the Chargers as a team are also losing confidence in themselves. Against the Jets, the Charger offense sputtered and had to rely on field-goal attempts. Then Kaeding (an excellent kicker) choked on all his kicks. All examples of a Charger team succumbing to playoff pressure and lack of confidence. The Colts, a supremely talented and confident team, who knows how to win in the playoffs....destroyed the Jets in the 2nd half of their playoff game.

Jackson can't seem to stay out of trouble and other Chargers keep getting in bar-fights and/or brought up on assault charges. All this is the mark on an undiciplined, out-of-control team. It seems San Diego's NFL team is correctly named.....Chargers = charges.

Norv Turner is just a "yes-man" to AJ and has no real power. Turner is the classic docile, "yes-man" coach---he was a "yes-man" to Al Davis and a "yes-man" in Washington. His only years of success were as an OC in Dallas, but a trained monkey could've been a successful OC in Dallas in the '90s, with all the HOF talent the Cowboys had at that time. Before Turner.....Marty had balls and wouldn't blindly go with what AJ wanted....so AJ (the control-freak) fires a fine coach who rebuilt a horrible Charger team into a 14-2 contender. The stupidity of Charger mgmt is beyond description.

AJ has current and former players who hate the way he runs the team and don't like his decisions. Rodney Harrison has gone on record and severely criticised AJ and other players have voiced negative viewpoints about AJ. This is why Eli Manning isn't your QB. AJ's mocking of LT in the media last year is a perfect example of his unprofessionalism.

The Chargers stadium has problems selling-out, because fans are tired of the inconsistency and playoff losses.

The Chargers had 4 seasons with a talented team to get to a SB and failed all four years. Two of those years they finished their seasons with epic playoff chokes.

The Chargers can be summed up with this sentence.....An overrated team with no heart and a team who's recent years of success will be ending, because of injuries and free-agency.

Seriously if someone else can't pick this post apart I will, I'll give someone else the chance because this thread is filled with so much fail.


I like this part.

The Colts, a supremely talented and confident team, who knows how to win in the playoffs....destroyed the Jets in the 2nd half of their playoff game.


Hmmm what happened in 07 and 08 when Indy was 1 and done?? What happened in 07 and 08 when SD won playoff games, more than Den has the past 11 years. 3 times more. But obviously you aren't mentioning Den, because they can't even make the playoffs. So who is gonna dethrone SD in the AFCW?? lol, amuse us.

Justblaze2729
02-26-2010, 01:42 PM
LMAO that's all this thread deserves. .

This is true.. so why couldnt u stop there


:go:

Boltheads
02-26-2010, 01:55 PM
Seriously if someone else can't pick this post apart I will, I'll give someone else the chance because this thread is filled with so much fail.It's not worth the time. He's just another Troll who is lashing out because he just realized Denver is the team that finished 2-8, not the one that started 6-0. In fact, if they have another bad draft like last year and if/when they lose Marshall...the team will have actually taken a step backwards.

SLVR and Black
02-26-2010, 02:01 PM
In 2010 their rushing game will be much better than in 08 and 09. Based on what? Free agent RB options are limited at best and this years draft isn't exactly stacked with talent -- do you seriously think that Best is going to be a world beater with all of his injury issues? Thomas Jones, maybe Westbrook but that's a huge maybe, Willie Parker? Beyond that, the pickings get pretty slim.

ERoyal248
02-26-2010, 02:03 PM
It's not worth the time. He's just another Troll who is lashing out because he just realized Denver is the team that finished 2-8, not the one that started 6-0. In fact, if they have another bad draft like last year and if/when they lose Marshall...the team will have actually taken a step backwards.

Chargers arent done, but they just got rid of LT and now letting Sproles walk. Whos going to run the ball, Hester, Bennett, Tolbert?? Our draft wasnt that bad, the rookies barely played other then Moreno and Ayers. Smith was bad, but CB's take time to play in the NFL. McBath was starting to play well until his injury. Bruton is a ST monster. Give it time. But point being, this is still SD's division.

Boltheads
02-26-2010, 02:13 PM
Chargers arent done, but they just got rid of LT and now letting Sproles walk. Whos going to run the ball, Hester, Bennett, Tolbert?? Our draft wasnt that bad, the rookies barely played other then Moreno and Ayers. Smith was bad, but CB's take time to play in the NFL. McBath was starting to play well until his injury. Bruton is a ST monster. Give it time. But point being, this is still SD's division.
1. They are not going to franchise Sproles again this year or Tender him at $7.3 million. That doesn't mean they are letting him walk. They can still resign him.

2. I think Tolbert will be given an opportunity to reduce his playing weight this offseason and be in the RB mix next season. I also think the Chargers will look at Chester Taylor and Willie Parker. Cromartie as trade bait is still out there. And of course, the draft. Dwyer, Best, or Matthews will look just fine in Blue and Gold.

3. Denver's draft might not have been "bad"...but, they definitely "paid too much" in the draft for their top 4 picks. All of them could have been had later than they went.

ChargersDivison
02-26-2010, 02:18 PM
Based on what? Free agent RB options are limited at best and this years draft isn't exactly stacked with talent -- do you seriously think that Best is going to be a world beater with all of his injury issues? Thomas Jones, maybe Westbrook but that's a huge maybe, Willie Parker? Beyond that, the pickings get pretty slim.

RB is literally the easiest position to fill in the NFL. Who thought Shonne Green would be any good.

People didn't think the 08 draft class was deep at RB.


1. Chris Johnson
2. Ray Rice
3. Jonathan Stewart
4. Jamaal Charles
5. Rashard Mendenhall
6. Felix Jones
7. Matt Forte (with better blocking hopefully)
8. Kevin Smith
9. Tim Hightower
10. Steve Slaton
11. Justin Forsett
12. Darren McFadden
13. Tashard Choice

SD was 31st last year in rushing and went 13-3. This is facing the NFCE and the AFCN. 2 best divisions in each conference, they had 4 NT's in a 3-4 on IR, Merriman had his worst season in which he played more than 1 game ala 08.

I guarantee they will be better than 31st in rushing.

They have Tolbert, Hester, Bennett and now they can draft 2 rookies. Or draft a rookie and sign or trade for a more experienced RB. SD might be trading for Mcgahee.

SLVR and Black
02-26-2010, 03:08 PM
People didn't think the 08 draft class was deep at RB.


There were 5 RB's taken in the first round alone, that's a pretty big number for a single round. This year there will be two, three tops.



I guarantee they will be better than 31st in rushing.

Boy, you sure are going out on a limb there. :rolleyes:

ERoyal248
02-26-2010, 03:27 PM
1. They are not going to franchise Sproles again this year or Tender him at $7.3 million. That doesn't mean they are letting him walk. They can still resign him.

2. I think Tolbert will be given an opportunity to reduce his playing weight this offseason and be in the RB mix next season. I also think the Chargers will look at Chester Taylor and Willie Parker. Cromartie as trade bait is still out there. And of course, the draft. Dwyer, Best, or Matthews will look just fine in Blue and Gold.

3. Denver's draft might not have been "bad"...but, they definitely "paid too much" in the draft for their top 4 picks. All of them could have been had later than they went.

1- True, but the likelyhood is Sproles will go elsewhere for more money.

2- Tolbert is solid, but SD did trade there 2nd rounder for Hester, he's good too. I dont think SD gets Chester, why would he go to SD when they rarely run the ball. Willie would be a decent pickup, looks like he's declining. Dwyer would be a good pickup, Best may be too small, got hurt in college, who knows. Matthews is a good back, but not sure if he's worth a 1st rounder. They need to do something or they can just let Rivers throw the ball 40+ times a game.

3- Moreno at 12 is high, but i think we took him so SD doesnt take him at 16. Ayers was rising up draft boards, he was a step away from 6 sacks and had 2 negated from penalties, should have a big year this upcoming year. Smith would of went in the next few picks, CB's take a while to adjust to the NFL. McBath looks like a good pick, probably will start for Hill this year.

BoltNut
02-26-2010, 03:31 PM
Boy, you sure are going out on a limb there. :rolleyes:

Going out on a limb??? Being better than #31 shouldn't be much of a reach. But with our O-line, who knows.

jhildebrand
02-27-2010, 09:08 AM
The reasons the Chargers wont be done

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:i2Z4RXsZafngwM:http://thesportsunion.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/5687_2844_stupid-philip-rivers-face.jpg

The reason the Chargers will be done in the playoffs

1.A.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:3SayNA4YhizmJM:http://getsbybuckner.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/turner_norv1204.jpg

1b.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:XFoKjaNyOpzOOM:http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/Nate-Kaeding-150x200.jpg

Boltheads
02-27-2010, 09:29 AM
Funny stuff Jhild.....I knew I missed this site the past month! :beer:

TRUEBRONCOFAN24
02-27-2010, 12:36 PM
Going out on a limb??? Being better than #31 shouldn't be much of a reach. But with our O-line, who knows.

What he meant was that ChargersDivision really wasn't going out on a limb by making such an obvious prediction like that.

Broncoyearound
02-27-2010, 01:54 PM
This is weak smack and although I wish injury on no player it seems that you are hoping for Rivers to get injured. Chargers still has a shot as long as they are making the playoffs every year. We haven't made the playoffs in four years now. We can't talk smack finishing second and not making playoffs each year. Sometimes we make dumb comments like the op come on man! You making us look bad.

NFLfan..MLBzzzz
02-27-2010, 03:35 PM
This is weak smack and although I wish injury on no player it seems that you are hoping for Rivers to get injured. Chargers still has a shot as long as they are making the playoffs every year. We haven't made the playoffs in four years now. We can't talk smack finishing second and not making playoffs each year. Sometimes we make dumb comments like the op come on man! You making us look bad.

Well said.

ChargersDivison
02-27-2010, 08:25 PM
P.S. Lets say Rivers does get hurt. It's not like SD doesn't have a quality backup in Volek. It's not like they have Chris Simms.


They got Volek with 3 probowl o-line, a promising rookie RG, 2 very quality #1 and #2 WR's, best TE in football and will have a revamped running game and a #3 WR in Naane who will be used more.

A dominant special teams and a defense that finished 11th in PPG with 4 NT's on IR and our best defensive player having his worst year.


They won't be as good without Rivers, but they wouldn't be dead in the water.

RaiderFanSD
02-27-2010, 08:53 PM
P.S. Lets say Rivers does get hurt. It's not like SD doesn't have a quality backup in Volek. It's not like they have Chris Simms.


They got Volek with 3 probowl o-line, a promising rookie RG, 2 very quality #1 and #2 WR's, best TE in football and will have a revamped running game and a #3 WR in Naane who will be used more.

A dominant special teams and a defense that finished 11th in PPG with 4 NT's on IR and our best defensive player having his worst year.


They won't be as good without Rivers, but they wouldn't be dead in the water.

Hahaha 3 Pro Bowl OL.. Maybe in the past but they aren't PB players anymore.

SLVR and Black
02-27-2010, 08:56 PM
revamped running game...Revamped doesn't always mean better. The Charger running game has already been revamped now that Tomlinson's no longer in the mix, it'll be revamped even more once Sproles is gone. Hey, I hear Larry Johnson and Shawn Alexander are still available! :P

ERoyal248
02-27-2010, 08:59 PM
Hahaha 3 Pro Bowl OL.. Maybe in the past but they aren't PB players anymore.

Pro Bowl this, Pro Bowl is stupid. I guess the Jags have a Pro Bowl QB in Garrard, so do the Titans with Vince Young..

ChargersDivison
02-27-2010, 09:27 PM
Hahaha 3 Pro Bowl OL.. Maybe in the past but they aren't PB players anymore.

Dielman was in the probowl and Hardwick missed to many games to make the probowl and Mcneil is a 3 time probowler. SD's o-line in pass blocking is very very good. Especially when healthy, elite unit.

mct1967
02-28-2010, 05:15 AM
This is weak smack and although I wish injury on no player it seems that you are hoping for Rivers to get injured. Chargers still has a shot as long as they are making the playoffs every year. We haven't made the playoffs in four years now. We can't talk smack finishing second and not making playoffs each year. Sometimes we make dumb comments like the op come on man! You making us look bad.

I'm not wishing an injury to Rivers--thats something Rod would do. If you read the part about Rivers again, I am stating how the frequency of injuries usually takes place in the NFL. Elway missed games from injuries at times and Dan Marino missed almost an entire season. Rivers during his years of being a starter has missed few games or none due to injury. Statistically, he's due for some missed games due to injury.

I've watched the NFL and other sports for a long time. I've played sports for a long time. Injuries are a part of any game. Rivers hasn't dealt with that yet. I'm predicting he soon will.

My OP is not smack. Its my take on the Chargers as a whole and why I believe their winning days are ending and why they won't win a SB. I'm not discussing the Broncos, because the Broncos are beginning a new era and have a lot of rebuilding to do. Next year may be like '08--a battle of 8-8 teams to see who wins the division.

So far, very little of what I've said has been challenged by Charger fans. Why? My OP is an accurate assesment of the Chargers as a whole.

ChargersDivison
02-28-2010, 05:23 AM
I'm not wishing an injury to Rivers--thats something Rod would do. If you read the part about Rivers again, I am stating how the frequency of injuries usually takes place in the NFL. Elway missed games from injuries at times and Dan Marino missed almost an entire season. Rivers during his years of being a starter has missed few games or none due to injury. Statistically, he's due for some missed games due to injury.

I've watched the NFL and other sports for a long time. I've played sports for a long time. Injuries are a part of any game. Rivers hasn't dealt with that yet. I'm predicting he soon will.

My OP is not smack. Its my take on the Chargers as a whole and why their winning days will decline and why they won't win a SB. I'm not discussing the Broncos, because the Broncos are beginning a new era and have a lot of rebuilding to do. Next year may be like '08--a battle of 8-8 teams to see who wins the division.

So far, very little of what I've said has been challenged by Charger fans. Why? My OP is an accurate assesment of the Chargers as a whole.

Nope.. 2010 will be worse than 09. SD will win the division by more than 6 games this year.

How many games has Peyton missed?? Favre?? Eli?? Brees??. SD has the AFCW locked up cupcake for the entire decade... We'll talk again in the 2020's though for sure.

mct1967
02-28-2010, 05:33 AM
Nope.. 2010 will be worse than 09. SD will win the division by more than 6 games this year.

How many games has Peyton missed?? Favre?? Eli?? Brees??. SD has the AFCW locked up cupcake for the entire decade... We'll talk again in the 2020's though for sure.

Do you ever get tired of being predictable, Rod? It shows your lack of logic and objectivity. I can be objective with the Broncos and point out their weaknesses. You think the Chargers never have any weaknesses. It's not a smart or analytical viewpoint.

mct1967
02-28-2010, 06:19 AM
P.S. Lets say Rivers does get hurt. It's not like SD doesn't have a quality backup in Volek. It's not like they have Chris Simms.


They got Volek with 3 probowl o-line, a promising rookie RG, 2 very quality #1 and #2 WR's, best TE in football and will have a revamped running game and a #3 WR in Naane who will be used more.

A dominant special teams and a defense that finished 11th in PPG with 4 NT's on IR and our best defensive player having his worst year.


They won't be as good without Rivers, but they wouldn't be dead in the water.

Dead enough...to either miss the playoffs or lose in the playoffs. And if you try to argue this statement, remember your own quote earlier in this thread...

"SD will continue to own the AFCW and make the playoffs and contend for a SB as long as Rivers is QB."

Boltheads
02-28-2010, 08:38 AM
If you read the part about Rivers again, I am stating how the frequency of injuries usually takes place in the NFL. Elway missed games from injuries at times and Dan Marino missed almost an entire season. Rivers during his years of being a starter has missed few games or none due to injury. Statistically, he's due for some missed games due to injury.

I've watched the NFL and other sports for a long time. I've played sports for a long time. Injuries are a part of any game. Rivers hasn't dealt with that yet. I'm predicting he soon will.What are you talking about? He was injured in the 2007 playoffs and played the AFCCG on a shredded knee. He then had major reconstructive surgery on that knee and an entire offseason of rehab in 2008.

SLVR and Black
02-28-2010, 09:37 AM
What are you talking about? He was injured in the 2007 playoffs and played the AFCCG on a shredded knee.Pain killers are a wonderful things. :P

Boltheads
02-28-2010, 09:52 AM
Pain killers are a wonderful things. :PNot to mention the injections he probably took before, during, and after the game.

DevilSpawn
02-28-2010, 10:58 AM
I'm not wishing an injury to Rivers--thats something Rod would do. If you read the part about Rivers again, I am stating how the frequency of injuries usually takes place in the NFL. Elway missed games from injuries at times and Dan Marino missed almost an entire season. Rivers during his years of being a starter has missed few games or none due to injury. Statistically, he's due for some missed games due to injury.
Peyton Manning? Brett Favre?

Boltheads
02-28-2010, 12:34 PM
Dead enough...to either miss the playoffs or lose in the playoffs. And if you try to argue this statement, remember your own quote earlier in this thread...

"SD will continue to own the AFCW and make the playoffs and contend for a SB as long as Rivers is QB."
And you wonder why nobody wants to debate your OP? It's garbage like your statement above - which covers 31 out of 32 teams.

Beagle
02-28-2010, 01:08 PM
Dielman was in the probowl and Hardwick missed to many games to make the probowl and Mcneil is a 3 time probowler. SD's o-line in pass blocking is very very good. Especially when healthy, elite unit.

Which center in your deluded mind do you think Hardwick is going to supplant in the probowl if injury free ? Nick Mangold, N.Y. Jets not only the probowl but the concensus all pro center or Kevin Mawae, Tennessee perenial probowl and former all-pro center? McNeil made the probowl twice not 3 times. Rookie year and second year which everyone knows wasn't even deserved. Your Oline is a problem from what I have read the chargers are even looking to replace your RT Clary. elite if healthy..rofls the only thing keeping Rivers on his feet is play action and a scary screen game. Oline and dline are a problem for the Chargers I'm not sure which is w a worse problem but I am sure they will address them as soon as they get a rb.

mct1967
02-28-2010, 01:50 PM
And you wonder why nobody wants to debate your OP? It's garbage like your statement above - which covers 31 out of 32 teams.

If my OP was garbage, you'd be more specific and challenge the points I made. You can't challenge my points because you and other Charger fans know what I wrote are all facts. Keep living in your fairy-tale land, like Rod does.

mct1967
02-28-2010, 01:59 PM
Peyton Manning? Brett Favre?

Those guys are exceptions and not the rule. Every NFL starter--on average--has to deal with a serious injury every few years in the league and miss games. Wait and watch...Peyton, Favre, Eli and the others who have remained injury-free will eventually be bitten by the injury-bug and miss games.

Boltheads
02-28-2010, 02:05 PM
If my OP was garbage, you'd be more specific and challenge the points I made. You can't challenge my points because you and other Charger fans know what I wrote are all facts. Keep living in your fairy-tale land, like Rod does.Okay, just to entertain you, I'll take just ONE SINGLE sentence from your page of rubish to prove my point.

"With their inability to win in the playoffs in recent years, the Chargers as a team are also losing confidence in themselves."

The first half of this sentence is false. The Chargers are 3-3 in the playoffs over the past 3 years under Turner. They may not have been able to win a SB in that time span, but to say they've been unable to win in the playoffs is just plain ignorant.

The second half of your sentence is just an opinion, not a fact. Why would I spend time trying to disprove what you believe? Your OP is filled with more opinion, than facts. That's why nobody is discussing it.

Beagle
02-28-2010, 05:09 PM
Okay, just to entertain you, I'll take just ONE SINGLE sentence from your page of rubish to prove my point.

"With their inability to win in the playoffs in recent years, the Chargers as a team are also losing confidence in themselves."

The first half of this sentence is false. The Chargers are 3-3 in the playoffs over the past 3 years under Turner. They may not have been able to win a SB in that time span, but to say they've been unable to win in the playoffs is just plain ignorant.

The second half of your sentence is just an opinion, not a fact. Why would I spend time trying to disprove what you believe? Your OP is filled with more opinion, than facts. That's why nobody is discussing it.

and you have never been guilty of that yourself at all...


http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/10270/who-will-replace-l-t-in-san-diego

Any of the backs on this list - rookies included - will have a better year than Moreno. I don't understand why so many Bronco fans love this guy. He has no explosion through the hole, he falls way too often with minimal contact (or none at all), he's average at best out of the backfield, and he's a liability against the blitz.

He carried the ball 250 times and couldn't break 1,000 yards?

pot meet kettle. the only thing that was a fact was he didn't have a 1000 yards the rest is speculation,opinion and crap.

Boltheads
02-28-2010, 07:48 PM
and you have never been guilty of that yourself at all...

pot meet kettle. the only thing that was a fact was he didn't have a 1000 yards the rest is speculation,opinion and crap.Guilty of what? Opinion? Heck, here's how my responses breakdown.....

50% - Opinion
20% - Rants
10% - Clueless
10% - Drunk
5% - Wrong Forum
5% - Wife or Teenage daughter pretending to be me

The difference between me and said tool is that I don't try and persude people to respond to my lame posts.

ChargersDivison
03-01-2010, 06:57 AM
Which center in your deluded mind do you think Hardwick is going to supplant in the probowl if injury free ? Nick Mangold, N.Y. Jets not only the probowl but the concensus all pro center or Kevin Mawae, Tennessee perenial probowl and former all-pro center? McNeil made the probowl twice not 3 times. Rookie year and second year which everyone knows wasn't even deserved. Your Oline is a problem from what I have read the chargers are even looking to replace your RT Clary. elite if healthy..rofls the only thing keeping Rivers on his feet is play action and a scary screen game. Oline and dline are a problem for the Chargers I'm not sure which is w a worse problem but I am sure they will address them as soon as they get a rb.

The same center he supplanted when he made the probowl couple years ago. Mawae gets in more due to name recognition and is at the end of his career and made it due to CJ having 2000 plus yds.

Mcneil made it in 06, 07 and 08 and was a 2nd alternate in 09.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8053b226&template=without-video&confirm=true

Look at the far right.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Top 5 in pass blocking and that was missing Hardwick, with a rookie RG and multiple players rotated at OC, RG and RT.

When Healthy SD is a top 3 pass blocking o-line and capable of being top 5 overall.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/10851305

Had us ranked #2. Sure it was back in 08.

RT is our 1 weak spot.

D-line was only weak due to injury, AGAIN! 4 NT's on IR and constant rotation on the entire d-line due to injury. SD does need a new RDE, unless Vance Martin is ready to be that or with Jamal healthy, Nwagbuo can take over the RDE spot.

BigDaddyBronco
03-01-2010, 08:32 AM
What I don't understand is the blind loyalty Charger Nation has for its GM AJ Smith. He made a decision 2 years ago that very well could have cost SD a Championship. The same type of hard decision that the Patriots make all the time. Which is why they continue to be in the mix every year.

They had the option of trading Tomlinson 2 years ago and keeping M. Turner... Instead they lost both and received nothing in return for either. When you have a player like Richard Seymore who is about to UFA you have options and those options are sign him, trade him or let him walk... For all circumstances there are reasons to at times to do any of the three options... I said this at the time they were letting Turner walk that it was a huge mistake with LT on the decline to do that... They could have easily got a 2nd rounder for LT... Hell maybe even a 1st rounder or another player in a trade. But AJ wasn't brave enough to pull the trigger. Those extra picks could be spent on other positions of need while still having Turner in the backfield. A huge mistake and one that will eventually be pointed out as we watch the Chargers ramp up for another run.

The Chargers are a very good team with a very good QB they will always be competitive as long as Rivers is there... But there have been better QB's that have not won a superbowl... Its decisions like the one above that can make or break a title run. Decisions like trading a first round pick (in one of the most talented draft classes in years) for a back up corner like McDaniels did last year that go under the radar but in a league of equality its the little decisions that add up to championships...

The Chargers aren't done. They are just getting started at piling up good regular seasons records with 2nd round exits... Miami Dolphins of the 80's and 90's anyone?

jhildebrand
03-01-2010, 09:46 AM
Bla bla bla. Bla bla bla. Talking out of the side of my face. Bla bla bla

ROD: This one's for you!!

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0207/nfl_g_drewster_288.jpg

Superbronk
03-04-2010, 01:12 PM
almost all of them are gone, they had their chance for SB Glory and woosh it is gone, the offense half the NFL Dreams of, We might be able to crush the Chargers next year, depends on who we and they, draft, :incomplete: team i repeat :incomplete: team

BroncoSexyDaddy
03-04-2010, 02:32 PM
Sproles got tendered today a 1st and 3rd round tender.It looks like he is staying in San Diego next season.A little cat and mouse game they are playing with the league and Sproles.

Boltheads
03-04-2010, 03:07 PM
almost all of them are gone, they had their chance for SB Glory and woosh it is gone, the offense half the NFL Dreams of, We might be able to crush the Chargers next year, depends on who we and they, draft, :incomplete: team i repeat :incomplete: teamWe lost two of our most ineffective players - LT and Jamaal Williams. Their replacements should be better. Yet, your team that self-distructed (again) at the end of the season "might be able to CRUSH the Chargers next season"? Oakland and KC ran all over your old, tired, under-sized defense to end the year.

Somebody's got a case of the Rockie Mountain Highs

SLVR and Black
03-04-2010, 03:26 PM
Sproles got tendered today a 1st and 3rd round tender.It looks like he is staying in San Diego next season.A little cat and mouse game they are playing with the league and Sproles.They tagged him last year, and now they tender him with first and a third? The Chargers either really, really want to keep him or they're incredibly desperate, he's going to be pretty darn expensive to keep. Makes me wonder how Sproles feels about things.

mct1967
12-26-2010, 07:28 PM
Dec. '10....Most of my '10 Springtime predictions came true regarding the Chargers. Now I get to gloat.

In Sept. on Yahoo I argued with a bunch of Chargers fans and predicted that the Chargers would not win the division in '10 and not make the playoffs. I was right again. However I will admit I didn't see the Broncos collapse and rise of the Cheifs.

But now I can add some tidbits of how overrated and pathetic the Chargers are...

1. How can a team be in the top-5 in offense and defense and not make the playoffs? Only the Chargers can be ranked that high and figure out how to miss the playoffs--PATHETIC!

2. Chargers have been picked over and over and over all year long to win the AFC-West and go on the same win streak they did last year. Last years' team and this years' Chargers are vastly different. Many players of the '06-'09 teams are gone. How these pundits can think a team with different players will play the same as previous years' players is absurd. I hope the media will now finally get off the Chargers bandwagon. The Chargers have some talent, but don't know how to win when it counts--PATHETIC!

3. How can the Chargers beat the Colts, then lose to the Raiders twice and lose to the Bengals?!! PATHETIC!

4. How can a top-5 ranked O and D team lose so many games on the road--PATHETIC!

5. And for A.J.---This guy never ceases to amaze me with how childish and insulting he is with his own players. He's pretty cheap too...doesn't want to pay for talent, so when a couple key Chargers hold out for more money, he gets his petty revenge by screwing with their contracts. Those players will soon be gone, just like the other good ex-Chargers prospering with other
teams--PATHETIC!

The Chargers will never win a Super Bowl as long as AJ is their GM.

NFLfan..MLBzzzz
12-26-2010, 07:41 PM
Dec. '10....Most of my '10 Springtime predictions came true regarding the Chargers. Now I get to gloat.

In Sept. on Yahoo I argued with a bunch of Chargers fans and predicted that the Chargers would not win the division in '10 and not make the playoffs. I was right again. However I will admit I didn't see the Broncos collapse and rise of the Cheifs.

But now I can add some tidbits of how overrated and pathetic the Chargers are...

1. How can a team be in the top-5 in offense and defense and not make the playoffs? Only the Chargers can be ranked that high and figure out how to miss the playoffs--PATHETIC!

2. Chargers have been picked over and over and over all year long to win the AFC-West and go on the same win streak they did last year. Last years' team and this years' Chargers are vastly different. Many players of the '06-'09 teams are gone. How these pundits can think a team with different players will play the same as previous years' players is absurd. I hope the media will now finally get off the Chargers bandwagon. The Chargers have some talent, but don't know how to win when it counts--PATHETIC!

3. How can the Chargers beat the Colts, then lose to the Raiders twice and lose to the Bengals?!! PATHETIC!

4. How can a top-5 ranked O and D team lose so many games on the road--PATHETIC!

5. And for A.J.---This guy never ceases to amaze me with how childish and insulting he is with his own players. He's pretty cheap too...doesn't want to pay for talent, so when a couple key Chargers hold out for more money, he gets his petty revenge by screwing with their contracts. Those players will soon be gone, just like the other good ex-Chargers prospering with other
teams--PATHETIC!

The Chargers will never win a Super Bowl as long as AJ is their GM.

4-11 bro....soon to be 4-12.

How does a coach that managed to bring the only moments of glory to a franchise lose his job when the owner said it was his job for as long as he wanted it. Then hire a 37 year old "offensive genious" and then turn their back on hi after less then 2 years?

And you laugh at us?? Thank you Pat for dooming the Broncos for the next few years to the cellar. :salute:

baphamet
12-26-2010, 07:46 PM
Dec. '10....Most of my '10 Springtime predictions came true regarding the Chargers. Now I get to gloat.

In Sept. on Yahoo I argued with a bunch of Chargers fans and predicted that the Chargers would not win the division in '10 and not make the playoffs. I was right again. However I will admit I didn't see the Broncos collapse and rise of the Cheifs.

But now I can add some tidbits of how overrated and pathetic the Chargers are...

1. How can a team be in the top-5 in offense and defense and not make the playoffs? Only the Chargers can be ranked that high and figure out how to miss the playoffs--PATHETIC!

2. Chargers have been picked over and over and over all year long to win the AFC-West and go on the same win streak they did last year. Last years' team and this years' Chargers are vastly different. Many players of the '06-'09 teams are gone. How these pundits can think a team with different players will play the same as previous years' players is absurd. I hope the media will now finally get off the Chargers bandwagon. The Chargers have some talent, but don't know how to win when it counts--PATHETIC!

3. How can the Chargers beat the Colts, then lose to the Raiders twice and lose to the Bengals?!! PATHETIC!

4. How can a top-5 ranked O and D team lose so many games on the road--PATHETIC!

5. And for A.J.---This guy never ceases to amaze me with how childish and insulting he is with his own players. He's pretty cheap too...doesn't want to pay for talent, so when a couple key Chargers hold out for more money, he gets his petty revenge by screwing with their contracts. Those players will soon be gone, just like the other good ex-Chargers prospering with other
teams--PATHETIC!

The Chargers will never win a Super Bowl as long as AJ is their GM.

what about your prediction that the donks would have their worst season in over 30 years? :smug:

theshiverman
12-26-2010, 07:51 PM
The San Diego Chargers through out their history have shown they can't win playoff games--even when they're favored. In the last 4 years prognosticators like Chris Berman on ESPN and many others pick the Chargers to win a SB, but the Chargers can never play to their potential. The Chargers have talent, but their recent playoff loss to the Jets and their '06 playoff loss are perfect examples of their lack of focus, lack of leadership and inability to be smart on and off the field. A smart athlete doesn't stay out late partying the night before a playoff game, which is what several Chargers seem to like doing and a smart athlete doesn't get called for PF flags during a playoff game.

With LT gone and possibly Sproles gone the Chargers will have no running game. If an injury happens to Rivers, the Chargers' offense is done. Rivers the last few years has been lucky that he's had no injuries to reduce his productivity. I believe his injury-free seasons will soon come to an end. In the NFL, every starter usually has to contend with an injury every few seasons and miss games....Rivers is due. The Chargers as a team are getting old. Injuries will become more frequent...this "talented" Charger team is running out of time.

The Chargers had a mediocre defense last year and were mediocre against the pass--against the run the Chargers ranked 20th. Cro may be on the way out and Merriman has no talent left, only worthless trash-talking.

With their inability to win in the playoffs in recent years, the Chargers as a team are also losing confidence in themselves. Against the Jets, the Charger offense sputtered and had to rely on field-goal attempts. Then Kaeding (an excellent kicker) choked on all his kicks. All examples of a Charger team succumbing to playoff pressure and lack of confidence. The Colts, a supremely talented and confident team, who knows how to win in the playoffs....destroyed the Jets in the 2nd half of their playoff game.

Jackson can't seem to stay out of trouble and other Chargers keep getting in bar-fights and/or brought up on assault charges. All this is the mark on an undiciplined, out-of-control team. It seems San Diego's NFL team is correctly named.....Chargers = charges.

Norv Turner is just a "yes-man" to AJ and has no real power. Turner is the classic docile, "yes-man" coach---he was a "yes-man" to Al Davis and a "yes-man" in Washington. His only years of success were as an OC in Dallas, but a trained monkey could've been a successful OC in Dallas in the '90s, with all the HOF talent the Cowboys had at that time. Before Turner.....Marty had balls and wouldn't blindly go with what AJ wanted....so AJ (the control-freak) fires a fine coach who rebuilt a horrible Charger team into a 14-2 contender. The stupidity of Charger mgmt is beyond description.

AJ has current and former players who hate the way he runs the team and don't like his decisions. Rodney Harrison has gone on record and severely criticised AJ and other players have voiced negative viewpoints about AJ. This is why Eli Manning isn't your QB. AJ's mocking of LT in the media last year is a perfect example of his unprofessionalism.

The Chargers stadium has problems selling-out, because fans are tired of the inconsistency and playoff losses.

The Chargers had 4 seasons with a talented team to get to a SB and failed all four years. Two of those years they finished their seasons with epic playoff chokes.

The Chargers can be summed up with this sentence.....An overrated team with no heart and a team who's recent years of success will be ending, because of injuries and free-agency.

Slam Dunk...windows shut!

theshiverman
12-26-2010, 07:51 PM
4-11 bro....soon to be 4-12.

How does a coach that managed to bring the only moments of glory to a franchise lose his job when the owner said it was his job for as long as he wanted it. Then hire a 37 year old "offensive genious" and then turn their back on hi after less then 2 years?

And you laugh at us?? Thank you Pat for dooming the Broncos for the next few years to the cellar. :salute:

You sound happy to have Norv back for another season...congrats

mct1967
12-26-2010, 08:02 PM
what about your prediction that the donks would have their worst season in over 30 years? :smug:

I never said that--so stop inventing crap misquotes.

Joshecalpoly
12-26-2010, 11:18 PM
Its going to be hard to sign all these guys:
Legedu Naane
Randy McMichael
Jeromey Clary
Jacques Cesaire
Antwan Applewhite
Kevin Burnett
Eric Weddle
Darren Sproles
Vincent Jackson
Stephen Cooper
Brandon Siler
Paul Oliver
Malcom Floyd

Then next year you have Garay Crayton Hardwick and Scrifes all as FA that have been important to your team.

I know many that I listed arent all that important to the Chargers but they are vital, especially with how badly youve needed them for depth this year. Your GM will have to unclench his wallet if he wants to keep his team in tact.