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SLVR and Black
05-15-2010, 04:25 PM
Merrioidman, check it out (http://www.chargers.com/team/roster.html)!

Sure, he may get more sacks than Doom this year (like anyone but ROD really believes that), he'll just be getting them for some other team! First rounder? Nope. How about a second rounder? No takers yet. :D

baphamet
05-15-2010, 04:32 PM
yeah he is probably gonna be gone IMO, i am actually surprised that nobody here posted the topic about merriman changing his agent so he can get traded easier (supposedly).

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/12/new-agent-quicker-exit-for-bolts-merriman/


Shawne Merriman’s switch from one high-profile agent to another will almost certainly have no bearing on his ultimate fate with the Chargers, but it could possibly hasten a trade.

Merriman’s firing of uber-agent Tom Condon and pending agreement to be represented by David Dunn comes on the heels of three possible draft-weekend deals that sources said died in large part because of Condon’s high demands for a long-term contract for Merriman.

with or without merriman i am concerned about the defense, every year that goes by this team reminds me more and more of the coryell years.

we need a decent defense or this team will not be able to win a Superbowl, no matter how good the offense is.

Amari24
05-15-2010, 04:36 PM
yeah he is probably gonna be gone IMO, i am actually surprised that nobody here posted the topic about merriman changing his agent so he can get traded easier (supposedly).

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/12/new-agent-quicker-exit-for-bolts-merriman/



with or without merriman i am concerned about the defense, every year that goes by this team reminds me more and more of the coryell years.

we need a decent defense or this team will not be able to win a Superbowl, no matter how good the offense is.

I heard something about him going to the Texans but Im not sure if thats true or not. It was on TA this morning. He most likely wont go anywhere in this divison though

SLVR and Black
05-15-2010, 04:38 PM
with or without merriman i am concerned about the defense, every year that goes by this team reminds me more and more of the coryell years.

we need a decent defense or this team will not be able to win a Superbowl, no matter how good the offense is.
Dang dude, the whole "common sense/logical/non-homeristic" thing really needs to go. :P I was actually surprised that nobody posted it as well so I thought I'd pull the trigger.

Honestly, I'm wondering if, at this point of his career, he's just too darn big to be an OLB. After all, 265 is a lot of weight to carry around while you're running after smaller guys -- you'd be hard pressed to find another OLB within 15lbs of him.

Jer_ber73
05-15-2010, 04:39 PM
Dang dude, the whole "common sense/logical/non-homeristic" thing really needs to go. :P I was actually surprised that nobody posted it as well so I thought I'd pull the trigger.

Honestly, I'm wondering if, at this point of his career, he's just too darn big to be an OLB. After all, 265 is a lot of weight to carry around while you're running after smaller guys -- you'd be hard pressed to find another ILB within 15lbs of him.

LOL. You two are my favorite non-Bronco fans on this board.

baphamet
05-15-2010, 04:42 PM
I heard something about him going to the Texans but Im not sure if thats true or not. It was on TA this morning. He most likely wont go anywhere in this divison though

it was the saints (from what i hear), i am sure he would have loved to be traded to a team that just won the SB and could use more help on defense.

Beagle
05-15-2010, 04:42 PM
Honestly, I'm wondering if, at this point of his career, he's just too darn big to be an OLB. After all, 265 is a lot of weight to carry around while you're running after smaller guys -- you'd be hard pressed to find another OLB within 15lbs of him.

It is alot of weight to carry around. Especially years after your last roids cycle.

I think the reason he may not be listed on the roster is because he has not signed his tender?

Joshecalpoly
05-15-2010, 04:45 PM
He and the front office are having issues. If it werent for the fans he would be gone by now.

Amari24
05-15-2010, 04:46 PM
it was the saints (from what i hear), i am sure he would have loved to be traded to a team that just won the SB and could use more help on defense.

Yea I could see him going to the Saints. Did they even address the LB spot in the draft?

baphamet
05-15-2010, 04:52 PM
It is alot of weight to carry around. Especially years after your last roids cycle.

you are assuming he no longer uses any kind of performance enhancing drugs. also, it is not a lot of weight on his big 6'4 frame.



I think the reason he may not be listed on the roster is because he has not signed his tender?

that is actually true but i still think the guy will be gone before the season starts if someone is willing to pay him and compensate the chargers.

we will see.

baphamet
05-15-2010, 04:58 PM
He and the front office are having issues. If it werent for the fans he would be gone by now.

nah, i don't think the fans make one bit of difference to be honest. i think its more to the fact that AJ smith and tom condon always struggle to get deals worked out, which is likely why he switched agents.

its no secret that players don't really like AJ for being a hard ass, it pisses me off at times but then again i think he is looking out for what he thinks is best for the team.

if merriman does go and this defense really struggles this year, AJ will deserve some heat for that.

Joshecalpoly
05-15-2010, 05:00 PM
you are assuming he no longer uses any kind of performance enhancing drugs. also, it is not a lot of weight on his big 6'4 frame.




that is actually true but i still think the guy will be gone before the season starts if someone is willing to pay him and compensate the chargers.

we will see.
See baphamet this is why I respect you. You seem to be honest in most things you say you dont go overboard and make outrageous statements that are far from being even remotely accurate.

The Chargers attached a 1st and 3rd tender on him which he has refused to sign. He has said before he is not happy with the way the organization has treated him, w/e that means and seems to want out although I doubt if they through money his way he will change his mind.

Other Chargers who havent signed:
Malcolm Floyd
Vincent Jackson
Travis Johnson
Marcus McNeil

baphamet
05-15-2010, 05:11 PM
See baphamet this is why I respect you. You seem to be honest in most things you say you dont go overboard and make outrageous statements that are far from being even remotely accurate.

LOL thanks but Denver fans often say that until i start running smack on their team then they hate me again. :D


The Chargers attached a 1st and 3rd tender on him which he has refused to sign. He has said before he is not happy with the way the organization has treated him, w/e that means and seems to want out although I doubt if they through money his way he will change his mind.

Other Chargers who havent signed:
Malcolm Floyd
Vincent Jackson
Travis Johnson
Marcus McNeil



yeah but the chargers are not gonna re-sign him for what he wants, i don't think they like his outlandish personality and the fact that he is always devoting time to doing non-football related activities like TV shows.

either way the dude will be gone at some point unless a deal does not get done and he has an unbelievable season, that is the only way AJ is gonna budge.

the fact that merriman is so hell bent on getting a contract now rather than playing this season and proving he is back to his old form kind of makes you wonder.

Joshecalpoly
05-15-2010, 05:21 PM
LOL thanks but Denver fans often say that until i start running smack on their team then they hate me again. :D





yeah but the chargers are not gonna re-sign him for what he wants, i don't think they like his outlandish personality and the fact that he is always devoting time to doing non-football related activities like TV shows.

either way the dude will be gone at some point unless a deal does not get done and he has an unbelievable season, that is the only way AJ is gonna budge.

the fact that merriman is so hell bent on getting a contract now rather than playing this season and proving he is back to his old form kind of makes you wonder.

2 injuries in 2 years and after last years less then stellar results (although thats common) I can see why most teams would want him to prove he is still dominant. Like Marshall I dont see to many teams willing to pay the Chargers price for Merriman.

DevilSpawn
05-15-2010, 05:41 PM
He's a has-been and I think a great chunk of it is psychological.

Joshecalpoly
05-15-2010, 05:51 PM
He's a has-been and I think a great chunk of it is psychological.

That or its a result of him laying of the roids his body isnt producing enough testosterone.

tech576
05-15-2010, 05:53 PM
good,he deserves to be on a superbowl caliber team.

SLVR and Black
05-15-2010, 05:57 PM
it is not a lot of weight on his big 6'4 frame.

While that may or may not be true, 6'4"/256 stands a worse chance at being quick than 6'2"/230 -- like just everything else, it's an exercise in compromises.

Beagle
05-15-2010, 06:04 PM
you are assuming he no longer uses any kind of performance enhancing drugs. also, it is not a lot of weight on his big 6'4 frame..

True he might be but with all the injurys I don't think so.
265 is too much weight no mater his frame. we are talking 60 lbs extra on a bad knee



Height Feet Inches Small Frame Medium Frame Large Frame
5' 2" 128-134 131-141 138-150
5' 3" 130-136 133-143 140-153
5'' 4" 132-138 135-145 142-156
5' 5" 134-140 137-148 144-160
5' 6" 136-142 139-151 146-164
5' 7" 138-145 142-154 149-168
5' 8" 140-148 145-157 152-172
5' 9" 142-151 148-160 155-176
5' 10" 144-154 151-163 158-180
5' 11" 146-157 154-166 161-184
6' 0" 149-160 157-170 164-188
6' 1" 152-164 160-174 168-192
6' 2" 155-168 164-178 172-197
6' 3" 158-172 167-182 176-202
6' 4" 162-176 171-187 181-207

SLVR and Black
05-15-2010, 06:07 PM
True he might be but with all the injurys I don't think so.
265 is too much weight no mater his frame. we are talking 60 lbs extra on a bad knee



Height Feet Inches Small Frame Medium Frame Large Frame
5' 2" 128-134 131-141 138-150
5' 3" 130-136 133-143 140-153
5'' 4" 132-138 135-145 142-156
5' 5" 134-140 137-148 144-160
5' 6" 136-142 139-151 146-164
5' 7" 138-145 142-154 149-168
5' 8" 140-148 145-157 152-172
5' 9" 142-151 148-160 155-176
5' 10" 144-154 151-163 158-180
5' 11" 146-157 154-166 161-184
6' 0" 149-160 157-170 164-188
6' 1" 152-164 160-174 168-192
6' 2" 155-168 164-178 172-197
6' 3" 158-172 167-182 176-202
6' 4" 162-176 171-187 181-207

That doesn't really apply to people who do extensive weight lifting. Take Tomlinson for example, his BMI puts him in solidly in the "Obese" category using most guidelines. No matter how you look at it though, 265 on any frame is too darn heavy to be playing OLB.

Freestyle
05-15-2010, 06:09 PM
Somehow I predict some posters predictions of 28 sacks per year and productive till 42 years old will get taken back if a trade occurs. :laugh:

baphamet
05-15-2010, 06:15 PM
good,he deserves to be on a superbowl caliber team.

you mean SB winning team? hes already on a SB caliber team.

baphamet
05-15-2010, 06:19 PM
True he might be but with all the injurys I don't think so.


i am willing to bet that he is, along with most of the other players in the NFL. when there is 100% chance to get away with taking HGH and millions of dollars involved, you can bet your ass most these players are using it.

HGH should be helping his body recover, so if it really was the roids (which i don't buy for a second) then the HGH should still be helping him stay healthy and recovering faster.

ChargersDivison
05-15-2010, 06:25 PM
Merriman will have DPOY winning and record season, sign a huge contract with SD and then next chapter of seeking smack material for the superior Chargers will begin for Raider and Den fans.


How is he a hasbeen?? lol, he's missed 1 season due to injury and his only bad season of 4 seasons played could be last year, year coming off the injury.

1 average/bad year is hardly washed up.


Merrimanis 6'4 272 pounds. A Genetic FREAK! Roids take Merriman, not the other way around. Whoever your QB is this year, will be on their ass all game long facing SD.

Joshecalpoly
05-15-2010, 06:35 PM
you mean SB winning team? hes already on a SB caliber team.

Nah I think he met SB caliber team. Every playoff team had a better D last year then the Chargers. In 08 your D managed to be the 4th best but were still one of the best winning teams. In 07 Ild say you had the 9th best playoff defense, and in 06 you were 4th best but only the Jets did the same with more.

broncoFan!
05-15-2010, 06:39 PM
Merrioidman, check it out (http://www.chargers.com/team/roster.html)!

Sure, he may get more sacks than Doom this year (like anyone but ROD really believes that), he'll just be getting them for some other team! First rounder? Nope. How about a second rounder? No takers yet. :D

Don't insult the ROD. His name rhymes with God. Chargers are a good team unfortunately though and Norv will find someone to replace him if he leaves.

Hoserman117
05-15-2010, 06:51 PM
Dang dude, the whole "common sense/logical/non-homeristic" thing really needs to go. :P I was actually surprised that nobody posted it as well so I thought I'd pull the trigger.

Honestly, I'm wondering if, at this point of his career, he's just too darn big to be an OLB. After all, 265 is a lot of weight to carry around while you're running after smaller guys -- you'd be hard pressed to find another OLB within 15lbs of him.

A lot of 3-4 OLB's are that big actually

DAL - Demarcus Ware: 262
DEN - Robert Ayers: 274
PIT - Lamarr Woodley: 265
KAN - Tamba Hali: 275
NYJ - Calvis Pace: 265
SD - Shaun Phillips: 262

Just to name a few :goofy:

tech576
05-15-2010, 07:11 PM
you mean SB winning team? hes already on a SB caliber team.

lol,sit kid

EddieMac
05-15-2010, 09:27 PM
Nice new pic 'spawn.

Merroids gone..that would be one down for them to be an almost likable team...for someone other than an AFC West fan.

:logo:

ERoyal248
05-15-2010, 10:04 PM
Merriman will have DPOY winning and record season, sign a huge contract with SD and then next chapter of seeking smack material for the superior Chargers will begin for Raider and Den fans.


How is he a hasbeen?? lol, he's missed 1 season due to injury and his only bad season of 4 seasons played could be last year, year coming off the injury.

1 average/bad year is hardly washed up.


Merrimanis 6'4 272 pounds. A Genetic FREAK! Roids take Merriman, not the other way around. Whoever your QB is this year, will be on their ass all game long facing SD.

LOL, the only way Merriman stays in SD is unless he has a comeback year and would take a paycut to what he would for a new contract. So would they move Phillips instead, but i think he's as good as gone. For the right offer, i think the Dolts would trade him.

Boltheads
05-15-2010, 10:08 PM
Again....Bronco fans praying that Merriman has another down year....or better yet....he gets traded out of the division. It ain't happening.

The type of surgery he had in 2008 takes two years to fully recover. While he will likely never get back to the form he had in his first 3 years, it's not out of the realm of thought that he might have a better season this year. If opponents have to game plan for him and have to double team him.....then things will be just fine.

ERoyal248
05-15-2010, 11:29 PM
Again....Bronco fans praying that Merriman has another down year....or better yet....he gets traded out of the division. It ain't happening.

The type of surgery he had in 2008 takes two years to fully recover. While he will likely never get back to the form he had in his first 3 years, it's not out of the realm of thought that he might have a better season this year. If opponents have to game plan for him and have to double team him.....then things will be just fine.

I dont think we're praying he's gone.. It doesnt matter, if he's here great, if not, oh well, i just dont know how they can keep him with Phillips and they just drafted English last year and have to re-sign McNeill, Jackson, Gates, Floyd.

Joshecalpoly
05-15-2010, 11:45 PM
I dont think we're praying he's gone.. It doesnt matter, if he's here great, if not, oh well, i just dont know how they can keep him with Phillips and they just drafted English last year and have to re-sign McNeill, Jackson, Gates, Floyd.

Well Larry English being drafted in the 1st was one of the things Merriman was upset about. He believed they were shoving him out. Personally if I had a choice Ild rather see Phillips gone I dont like him. Plus he is quietly a more dominant tackle and he doesnt have the questions about his health.

gorky
05-16-2010, 03:18 AM
I dont think we're praying he's gone.. It doesnt matter, if he's here great, if not, oh well, i just dont know how they can keep him with Phillips and they just drafted English last year and have to re-sign McNeill, Jackson, Gates, Floyd.

I concur.

I'd actually rather SD keep him.
I love the extra drama he creates off the field. That has way more impact these days than his play on the field.
But the added bonus is what he is going to get paid because of the tag from earlier this year.

jcdavey
05-16-2010, 04:38 AM
if we can get a 2nd rounder out of some sucker for him, i'm all for it

anything lower, we may as well keep him till at least the 2010 trade deadline, or the whole season, and hope he regains some of his former self

hope he's been hgh'ing


best case scenario IMO, we get a 2012 3rd round comp for him after we let him walk after the 2010 season (ala michael turner)

TH3JUICEMAN
05-16-2010, 09:53 AM
Merriman will have DPOY winning and record season, sign a huge contract with SD and then next chapter of seeking smack material for the superior Chargers will begin for Raider and Den fans.


How is he a hasbeen?? lol, he's missed 1 season due to injury and his only bad season of 4 seasons played could be last year, year coming off the injury.

1 average/bad year is hardly washed up.


Merrimanis 6'4 272 pounds. A Genetic FREAK! Roids take Merriman, not the other way around. Whoever your QB is this year, will be on their ass all game long facing SD.

Your assumptions are right on par with one RaiderJoe...........hmmmmmm

DevilSpawn
05-16-2010, 11:52 AM
Merriman will have DPOY winning and record season, sign a huge contract with SD and then next chapter of seeking smack material for the superior Chargers will begin for Raider and Den fans.


How is he a hasbeen?? lol, he's missed 1 season due to injury and his only bad season of 4 seasons played could be last year, year coming off the injury.

1 average/bad year is hardly washed up.


Merrimanis 6'4 272 pounds. A Genetic FREAK! Roids take Merriman, not the other way around. Whoever your QB is this year, will be on their ass all game long facing SD.
I don't care, this is funny. It's like saying Superbowls can't win Chargers.

gorky
05-16-2010, 02:51 PM
I don't care, this is funny. It's like saying Superbowls can't win Chargers.

Funny stuff DS!

Blitzmaster
05-16-2010, 05:35 PM
Merrioidman, check it out (http://www.chargers.com/team/roster.html)!

Sure, he may get more sacks than Doom this year (like anyone but ROD really believes that), he'll just be getting them for some other team! First rounder? Nope. How about a second rounder? No takers yet. :D

YES Merriman IS listed on the roster as a RESTRICTED FREE AGENT (Scroll all the way to the bottom of the roster page you posted the link to).

LOL. I can't believe nobody caught that (regarding the title of this thread and the assumption that Merriman is gonna be gone because his name is not on the main roster). Funny. :go:

Joshecalpoly
05-16-2010, 07:07 PM
YES Merriman IS listed on the roster as a RESTRICTED FREE AGENT (Scroll all the way to the bottom of the roster page you posted the link to).

LOL. I can't believe nobody caught that (regarding the title of this thread and the assumption that Merriman is gonna be gone because his name is not on the main roster). Funny. :go:

Many of us have mentioned he just hasnt signed his tender

sgriffeth78
05-19-2010, 09:41 AM
LOL thanks but Denver fans often say that until i start running smack on their team then they hate me again. :D





yeah but the chargers are not gonna re-sign him for what he wants, i don't think they like his outlandish personality and the fact that he is always devoting time to doing non-football related activities like TV shows.

either way the dude will be gone at some point unless a deal does not get done and he has an unbelievable season, that is the only way AJ is gonna budge.

the fact that merriman is so hell bent on getting a contract now rather than playing this season and proving he is back to his old form kind of makes you wonder.

Yet they approve of Rivers' outlandish personality? Among other players? Hmm...

baphamet
05-19-2010, 10:37 AM
Yet they approve of Rivers' outlandish personality? Among other players? Hmm...

rivers doesn't have an outlandish personality, i wasn't talking about trash talking during a game, many players do that.

the only thing merriman does during the games that can even be considered outlandish is his sack dance and that is not the issue. :coffee:

DoJo Chargerfan
05-19-2010, 11:17 AM
Yea I could see him going to the Saints. Did they even address the LB spot in the draft?

well, he'll play DE on the Saints and every other 43 team.

DoJo Chargerfan
05-19-2010, 11:18 AM
Yet they approve of Rivers' outlandish personality? Among other players? Hmm...

ha. drinking the haterade I see. Rivers is every bit outlandish as Tebow is.