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Peerless
11-03-2010, 06:04 PM
The Boston Celtics pounded the Detroit Pistons on Tuesday, and Charlie Villanueva posted messages on his Twitter account that indicate Kevin Garnett may have made it personal.



One of the tweets says: "KG called me a cancer patient, I'm pissed because, u know how many people died from cancer, and he's tossing it like it's a joke."

Garnett is known for his trash-talking on the court. Villanueva suffers from alopecia universalis, a medical condition that results in hair loss. The Detroit forward does not have hair on his head.

The Pistons confirmed that Villanueva posted the tweets but had no further comment.

Garnett called the incident "a major miscommunication."

"My comment to Charlie Villanueva was in fact 'You are cancerous to your team and our league,'" Garnett said. "I would never be insensitive to the brave struggle that cancer patients endure. I have lost loved ones to this deadly disease and have a family member currently undergoing treatment. I would never say anything that distasteful. The game of life is far bigger than the game of basketball."

Villanueva had posted multiple tweets saying that Garnett's alleged comments hit home.

"I wouldn't even trip about that, but a cancer patient, I know way 2 many people who passed away from it, and I have a special place 4 those," the tweet reads.

Garnett scored 22 points and had six rebounds in the Celtics' 109-86 victory. Villanueva had 17 points and seven rebounds off the bench for the winless Pistons. Villanueva was ready to take the battle off the court.


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"KG talks alot of crap, he's prob never been in a fight, I would love to get in a ring with him, I will expose him," another tweet reads.

Although there is no independent verification of what was said between the two players, Garnett and Villanueva did get into it during the game.

Villanueva was fouled by Garnett en route to the basket with 2:39 to go in the fourth quarter, after which the two exchanged words. Celtics coach Doc Rivers immediately subbed Garnett, but the two were still jawing as he was headed to the bench. At that point, a double technical was called.

"It was something that went beyond trash-talking, in yesterday's game," said Robert Villanueva, Charlie's older brother and manager. "Charlie's been teased all his life regarding his skin condition. He's the spokesperson for the National Alopecia Areata Foundation and he has made anti-bullying in public schools across America his foundation's primary initiative and purpose. It's one thing to hear negative, insulting comments from sports fans rooting against you, but to hear it from your peers it's just complete stupidity."

Robert Villanueva did take exception with his brother's reaction, but he also understood.

"I think Charlie could have handled it a little differently, but he's passionate about his cause and beliefs, and I don't blame him for lashing his frustration with his Twitter community," he said. "Keep in mind, we just completed a cancer awareness month and the NBA league is a full partner in fighting this cause. I just don't get it."

Nuggets coach George Karl, himself a cancer survivor, reacted to word that Garnett had called Villanueva a cancer patient.

"Sometimes, responsibility comes from knowing when to argue when not to -- when to cross the line and when not to cross the line," he said, according to CBSSports.com. "So philosophically, if Kevin and I were close friends, I'd probably call him up and say, 'I don't think that's right [what you said].' But I also believe that competition makes us do things when we don't have our total mental morality in line. We act like children at times, even coaches."

Rivers was frustrated by the incident.

"I actually heard what Kevin said, I was standing right there, and what he released [in a statement through the Celtics organization] is what he said," Rivers said before Wednesday's game. "I'm going to leave it at that. I don't like the whole tweeting thing, I'll state that as well. I think guys talk on the court, that doesn't mean they should or shouldn't. But the fact that we're talking about this, to me, is just silly. It really is.

"We should be talking about [how] we had a hell of a game the other day and let's talk about basketball. It's amazing to me that this stuff is news now, that's not sports."

I could see Garnett doing this. He talks crap all the time, and it's not just basketball trash... He'll hate on someone personally.

I remember back in 2004, he was playing the Spurs; going up against Tim Duncan.

It was mother's day, and it was widely known for a while (since he was a rookie in 1999) that Duncan's mom passed away when he was young.

On this game and mothers day, Duncan was shooting a free throw and Garnett yelled at him: "Happy Mother's day Mother f'er!"

Classless. I bet he did say this to Charlie V.

Kno-Sean
11-03-2010, 06:09 PM
I could see Garnett doing this. He talks crap all the time, and it's not just basketball trash... He'll hate on someone personally.

I remember back in 2004, he was playing the Spurs; going up against Tim Duncan.

It was mother's day, and it was widely known for a while (since he was a rookie in 1999) that Duncan's mom passed away when he was young.

On this game and mothers day, Duncan was shooting a free throw and Garnett yelled at him: "Happy Mother's day Mother f'er!"

Classless. I bet he did say this to Charlie V.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he said that to him. I just don't see why Charlie V would make that up, he was obviously upset.

Plus, why would KG tell Charlie V that' he's a "cancer to his team and the league"? What has Charlie V ever done wrong. I loved him in MIL.

Peerless
11-03-2010, 07:30 PM
I like his statement that he issued on what he "really said."

Kevin Garnett, out of high school for 16 years, with no college under his belt want us to believe that he wrote the following...

"My comment to (Villanueva) was in fact 'You are cancerous to your team and our league. I would never be insensitive to the brave struggle that cancer patients endure. I have lost loved ones to this deadly disease...and have a family member currently undergoing treatment. I would never say anything that distasteful."

lol Garnett's publicist needs to be fired for coming up with something like that. tone down the vocab.

Jay3
11-03-2010, 07:32 PM
I would be toast if I was an athlete or public figure, because my sick sense of humor is like Garnett's.

Spice 1
11-03-2010, 07:44 PM
I could see Garnett doing this. He talks crap all the time, and it's not just basketball trash... He'll hate on someone personally.

I remember back in 2004, he was playing the Spurs; going up against Tim Duncan.

It was mother's day, and it was widely known for a while (since he was a rookie in 1999) that Duncan's mom passed away when he was young.

On this game and mothers day, Duncan was shooting a free throw and Garnett yelled at him: "Happy Mother's day Mother f'er!"

Classless. I bet he did say this to Charlie V.


I woulda been like, "wait until fathers day, mama's boy". I had to laugh, because I can visualize Garnett saying that. People have always been on Garnett's jock because he plays w/so much heart. They don't realize that a guy who is willing to do anything to win games, can and will resort to stuff like this. He's a dirty player, but I actually have my own strange respect for that. I would want to play with Garnett, because I know that he's dedicated to the team, and everyone else be damned. It's funny, because you expect to hear stuff like this on the street courts. Guys who grew up in that environment, stuff like this doesn't bother them at all. I have a feeling that Garnett wouldn't be bringing that junk on the playground though.

Peerless
11-03-2010, 08:19 PM
I woulda been like, "wait until fathers day, mama's boy". I had to laugh, because I can visualize Garnett saying that. People have always been on Garnett's jock because he plays w/so much heart. They don't realize that a guy who is willing to do anything to win games, can and will resort to stuff like this. He's a dirty player, but I actually have my own strange respect for that. I would want to play with Garnett, because I know that he's dedicated to the team, and everyone else be damned. It's funny, because you expect to hear stuff like this on the street courts. Guys who grew up in that environment, stuff like this doesn't bother them at all. I have a feeling that Garnett wouldn't be bringing that junk on the playground though.

I totally disagree. Garnett first of all is a punk. Ask anyone who watches the NBA, and you see him targeting the smaller in NBA status players, and the younger generation of hoopsters. Along with that, he always has a fickle with the Europeans.

He's simply a bully. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=As3m_I7wXku_Z1GlVcTlRX28vLYF?slug=aw-garnettvillanueve110310

When do you ever see him going up against some of the elite big shots in the NBA?

He may play with heart, but so do many other NBA stars, and they do it with class: Duncan, Nowitzki, Nash, Bryant, etc.

Remember, KG didn't bring a city/team to a championship like Duncan/Bryant/Jordan... He was spoon fed two all-stars.

KG was the league MVP back in Minnesota, and had teams that went deep into the playoffs. He was the franchise, but could never deliver.
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I may have this dislike towards KG just because I'm such a TD fan. But from his pathetic reputation of abusing/bullying other players; there's no doubt in my mind that he said that to Charlie V.

broncsfan21
11-03-2010, 08:52 PM
I totally disagree. Garnett first of all is a punk. Ask anyone who watches the NBA, and you see him targeting the smaller in NBA status players, and the younger generation of hoopsters. Along with that, he always has a fickle with the Europeans.

He's simply a bully. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=As3m_I7wXku_Z1GlVcTlRX28vLYF?slug=aw-garnettvillanueve110310

When do you ever see him going up against some of the elite big shots in the NBA?

He may play with heart, but so do many other NBA stars, and they do it with class: Duncan, Nowitzki, Nash, Bryant, etc.

Remember, KG didn't bring a city/team to a championship like Duncan/Bryant/Jordan... He was spoon fed two all-stars.

KG was the league MVP back in Minnesota, and had teams that went deep into the playoffs. He was the franchise, but could never deliver.
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I may have this dislike towards KG just because I'm such a TD fan. But from his pathetic reputation of abusing/bullying other players; there's no doubt in my mind that he said that to Charlie V.

Of course KG couldn't do it alone in Minn. Who all did he have with him up there? Duncan had a pretty good parter for his first two rings, or should I say it was David Robinson who had a good partner? Parker and Ginobli are pretty good on that Spurs team too. Kobe had Shaq for his first few and Pau the last two. Jordan had Pippen.

Not saying that KG is in the same league as these guys, but to say Duncan/Bryant/Jordan won championships by themselves isn't really accurate.

Spice 1
11-03-2010, 10:30 PM
I totally disagree. Garnett first of all is a punk. Ask anyone who watches the NBA, and you see him targeting the smaller in NBA status players, and the younger generation of hoopsters. Along with that, he always has a fickle with the Europeans.

He's simply a bully. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=As3m_I7wXku_Z1GlVcTlRX28vLYF?slug=aw-garnettvillanueve110310

When do you ever see him going up against some of the elite big shots in the NBA?

He may play with heart, but so do many other NBA stars, and they do it with class: Duncan, Nowitzki, Nash, Bryant, etc.

Remember, KG didn't bring a city/team to a championship like Duncan/Bryant/Jordan... He was spoon fed two all-stars.

KG was the league MVP back in Minnesota, and had teams that went deep into the playoffs. He was the franchise, but could never deliver.
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I may have this dislike towards KG just because I'm such a TD fan. But from his pathetic reputation of abusing/bullying other players; there's no doubt in my mind that he said that to Charlie V.

It's funny, because I really can't disagree with anything you just said. I just understand, to a point, where it comes from with this guy. And I haven't been a big fan of Villanueva (or whatever) since he grabbed Z by the throat for no reason whatsoever. Z is like a big kid, he's harmless.

BTW: Why them Badgers gotta beat down on my Buckeyes like that? After the game, somebody told me that OSU just came out flat. I told him that when the other team runs the ball on you ten times consecutively, and you can't stop it, it has nothing to do with being flat.

InsaneBlaze23
11-03-2010, 10:46 PM
As a person who is a Pistons fan(sum what).
This does not surprise me, KG always say stuff.
But I wont lie, I have said the same thing in my head.

Peerless
11-04-2010, 01:55 PM
Of course KG couldn't do it alone in Minn. Who all did he have with him up there? Duncan had a pretty good parter for his first two rings, or should I say it was David Robinson who had a good partner? Parker and Ginobli are pretty good on that Spurs team too. Kobe had Shaq for his first few and Pau the last two. Jordan had Pippen.

Not saying that KG is in the same league as these guys, but to say Duncan/Bryant/Jordan won championships by themselves isn't really accurate.

KG had vets in Latrell Sprewell and Sam Cassell during some playoff runs.

Robinson may have had Duncan in 1999, but he was a rookie.

2003 Duncan had Parker and Ginobili in 2003, but both of those guys were unknown. Parker was just 19 years old, and Gino was a 27 year old rookie. Along with them was David Robinson, who had a back that was basically given up on him.

I mean everyone will have their personal opinions... I just think KG is a punk and is LUCKY to have wound up in Boston with two established All-Stars.

broncsfan21
11-04-2010, 03:27 PM
KG had vets in Latrell Sprewell and Sam Cassell during some playoff runs.

Robinson may have had Duncan in 1999, but he was a rookie.

2003 Duncan had Parker and Ginobili in 2003, but both of those guys were unknown. Parker was just 19 years old, and Gino was a 27 year old rookie. Along with them was David Robinson, who had a back that was basically given up on him.

I mean everyone will have their personal opinions... I just think KG is a punk and is LUCKY to have wound up in Boston with two established All-Stars.

Thats very true. I'm not even a KG fan, I just think he didn't have a whole lot to work with in Minn, so he never made any noise in the playoffs. But that has changed since he has been in Boston, but having Allen and Pierce definitely helps a lot.