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Puddleglum
02-07-2011, 01:46 PM
Hello everyone just wondering what my fellow estranged Boltheads and Broncoholics think about The Chargers needs in the draft and what to do with our free agents.

San Diego Chargers 2011
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Billy Volek UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
WR Legedu Naanee UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
TE Randy McMichael UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
OT Jeromey Clary UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
DL Jacques Cesaire UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
DL Travis Johnson UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
LB Antwan Applewhite RFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
LB Kevin Burnett UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
LB Stephen Cooper UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
LB Brandon Siler UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
FS Paul Oliver UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
FS Eric Weddle UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
WR Vincent Jackson UFA
WR Malcom Floyd UFA

Edit: I think this list I stole from the Chargers Message Board is wrong, fairly sure Darren Sproles is on there as well.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
02-07-2011, 01:50 PM
Wow, that's a lot. I knew Jackson was a FA, but I didn't realize all of the key receivers were.

Puddleglum
02-07-2011, 03:11 PM
As for my opinion lets start with the FA's

QB Billy Volek - Having a capable backup is quite the luxury in this league. IMO I'm surprised he hasn't been champing at the bit for a starting job for years, instead he's seemed quite content to play second fiddle in San Diego. Although iirc he wants to start again so I can see him being hard to keep despite my wanting to bring him back. BACK

WR Legedu Naanee - We will be having WR problems this coming year related to an exodus of WR talent (see other FA's), and although he spent a fair amount of the year hurt I do believe he can play in this league. Most importantly he knows the playbook. I think we can get him back cheap, though the fact that my stance on him is somewhat similar (aside from injuries) to Buster Davis is worrying. BACK

TE Randy McMichael - Considering people thought he had nothing left in the tank and filled in fairly nicely for Gates is worth noting. I think an effort will be made to bring back McMichael but AJ will not overpay for him and the development of Kory Sperry will have an effect on the outcome. Regardless I would like to keep him but I just don't think that is going to happen. GONE

OT Jeromey Clary - It is said that Clary had his best season this past year. That sounds great, sounds fantastic, but when you also learn that Rivers was the 3rd most sacked QB in the league it puts things into perspective. Last year I said that when our linemen started going down our back ups came in and performed extremely well. I'm now beginning to think that the problem is that our starters just aren't that much better than our back ups. AJ will make an offer to Clary but he won't hesitate in letting him walk and putting Dombrowski (the guy who played LT before McNeill came back) at RT. GONE

DL Jacques Cesaire - As a DE he is the bar against which all of our DE talent is measured. He's not particularly good, he's just not bad either. We can probably get him back for cheap like Travis Johnson I'd like to keep him for depth. BACK

DL Travis Johnson - A first round pick that has never lived up to his billing and has been unable to wrest the a starting job from Cesaire. His off field behavior (effort, on time, what the brass thinks of him, development / potential) more than anything else I believe will dictate if he comes back or not especially with Vaughn Martin getting a larger amount of snaps the last 6 games of the season. As I also think DE is where the Chargers could use an infusion of high grade talent in a DE heavy draft I think he is the odd man out. Gone

LB Antwan Applewhite - An OLB that regardless of being a SDSU product has never really got it done on the field, unless "getting it done" includes inciting stupid penalties. Buried in the depth chart is pretty much the story of his life, but considering that OLB is one of our biggest weaknesses and he is still not able to shine is the problem. GONE

LB Kevin Burnett - We have been lacking a solid coverage ILB since Donnie Edwards (whom I'm still pissed we let go), regardless of injury issues Burnett stepped up and showed us he can play. He is a big part of our revitalization on defense and IMO is a key FA we need to keep. BACK

LB Stephen Cooper - Someone on the Charger's Message Board put it best for this guy "a great football mind, but not a great football body," or at least something like that. Too small, too light, and too slow is not how you want to describe your ILB's and that has described him perfectly for the past 3-4 years regardless of his football instincts. To be frank I'm not even sure I want him back as a back up, I want to move on. Regardless, I think he comes BACK.

LB Brandon Siler - Took over for Cooper when he was hurt and IMO our defense was better for it. He's young but of the 3 digs against Cooper, Siler is only slow, but unlike Cooper can tackle one on one and can shed a block. I'd like to think he would be cheap but unfortunately I think he played just enough this year to show up on the radar of other GM's. He will be harder to keep but I think he will be payed because of a lack of depth and uncertainties at the position. BACK

FS Paul Oliver - Played SS this year, when Gregory was tagged with performance enhancers (you'd think he would have played better). He's a career back up and will carry that price tag, we could do worse but we could also do so much better, how about getting us a real SS AJ? BACK

FS Eric Weddle - As far as I'm concerned he's the only damn person on the whole defense who can tackle. Exaggerated? Yes, but I do actually feel that way. Sometimes it feels like we only field about 5 guys when we are on defense, he is one of these people. He's not the best FS to ever play the game but at the very worst he is solid, and a key FA. I'd like to say that a deal will be done a matter of hours after there is a new CBA but if the past is any indication there is some kind of unspeakable evil that lurks in the team wallet and opening it just a sliver puts the whole world at great risk. Instead AJ chooses to keep it closed, in an effort to prevent this certain doom from consuming the world and all that we hold dear. BACK

WR Vincent Jackson - Smith is going to find a way to get value out of the guy, be it playing time or draft picks, and possibly both. Regardless I don't believe he will get a long term contract from San Diego. We could have traded him last off season and gotten some picks for this draft but alas no we wanted those 6 or so games out of him. BACK

WR Malcom Floyd - Injury Prone is the only way to describe this guy, makes sense when you see him play, he's essentially a human gazelle. An acceptable #2 who will probably only be back if we don't Franchise Tag VJ because he can get a couple mil a year in free agency. GONE

RB Darren Sproles - He had a bad year as a kick returner, though I think our special teams as a unit last year was at a club low. It is my opinion that the team somehow does not know how to use Sproles, and seeing as it will take millions to keep a good player that we can't use properly I think we won't keep him. AJ only sees the $ signs and agrees, especially when Brinkley performed well enough and will be so much cheaper.GONE

We have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds and as I haven't spent much time looking over the prospects I won't be handing out specific names but I would like to see a DE, ILB, OT, OLB, and a C or another OLB. I'd say SS or WR but we have Stuckey from last year's draft and to me Phil has proven that he can throw to anyone who can catch and run a route.

Just my thoughts, would like to hear yours.

Puddleglum
02-09-2011, 02:38 PM
Wow can't even get anything from the Charger regulars so I guess I'll need to make this post a bit more interesting.

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=player_embedded#) you can find a most illuminating look into the thought process of AJ smith for the off season.

Puddleglum
02-14-2011, 07:20 PM
Legedu Naanee arrested in Indy. (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/feb/14/chargers-naanee-arrested-indy/) Seeing as Legadu just commited a Legadon't, I find it my position to support my previous stance on him coming back. We will be hurting at WR and others on the team (see Shaun Philips, Vincent Jackson) have been in trouble multiple times, they don't find themselves an exit they just find themselves on thin ice and on AJ's...poop list.

Puddleglum
03-05-2011, 12:15 PM
I know it's late but the Chargers made some interesting tenders despite the likelihood of a new CBA returning the requirement to 4 years. Tendering gives you a glimpse at how valued these players are by the brass so lets talk about it.

1st and 3rd-

Malcolm Floyd- I think he was tendered this high for money/posturing reasons only. To be fair however, the guy has some fantastic stats (http://www.nfl.com/players/malcomfloyd/profile?id=FLO762180) given how often he is injured. Combined that with not tendering Naanee at all and I can see why the Chargers want to keep Floyd at this point. He's been with San Diego since being an UDFA if I recall correctly, and that important to know considering he will likely become an unrestricted free agent in the new CBA. Will he take a San Diego discount? Regardless I still think he signs for more money elsewhere, and it will be interesting to see how the contract pays out given his injury issues.

1st-

Eric Weddle- Like Floyd, I think Weddle was placed here for money/posturing reasons. I actually believe the brass knows Weddle is most important FA they have (since they tagged VJ). Solid player at worst, who has been very sturdy and a high character guy. Biggest knock on him would probably be that he's not taking a bigger leadership role. I still believe he will sign in San Diego, and regardless of what he is saying in interviews will take a bit of a San Diego discount.

2nd-

Antwan Applewhite - This blew me away, I couldn't figure out for the life of me figure out why they tendered him so high. See above, for my stance on this OLB. Must be something I don't know and that's why I'm an average Joe and not one of the Pro's. Will still be a RFA in the new CBA as he only has 3 years of experience.

Jeromey Clary - Bog standard RT, still young at 27. My old stance was that I wasn't afraid of losing him as I believed we had some backups who could equal his play. While I still believe that, I'm not impressed with the OT's in this draft with which to restock the depth. I think he was tendered at a good spot, and I expect him to be back unless there is a team with a terrible need for a RT that is willing to overpay for him. I don't really see him getting a long term (more than 3 year) contract from San Diego either.

3rd-

Dante Hughes - A backup CB who took over the nickel from Strickland last year. While he's certainly not stellar in coverage he is improving from my point of view. He's also a very physical corner which I love (and a need considering how...temperamental our run defense is). The likelihood of Hughes getting a long term contract is based mostly off of what the coaches think of him, with Jammer getting older and the fact that we can still sign him to a long term contract now for cheap sets things up pretty well for a contract if management thinks he has what it takes to be a starter.

4th-

Antwan Barnes - A pickup from last year as a result of most of our OLB's going down at some point. In my opinion is the best pure rush specialist on the team, considering that is a HUGE need for us I think we will try to keep him regardless of us targeting an OLB in the draft or not. Never a starter on any team he has been with, he impressed last season. If this is because he's actually good or its just been that long since we San Diegans have seen what a decent OLB looks like, I shall leave up to you, the reader. Turns out he has my same birthday, so gonna root for him a little harder from now on.

Paul Oliver - Picked up in the 2007 supplemental draft for a 4th rounder, he's managed to stay on the team and see the field which is something. As a starter we could do better, as a back up, he's not too shabby at all. He was a CB in college but has translated to a safety in the NFL, probably useful in passing situations but I'm not remembering many plays good or bad for him. What I said above pretty well reflected at this spot.

7th-

Brandon Siler - This one also floored me, I thought Siler (who once upon a time was supposed to be the future and has made some key stops the last couple years) was going to be a keeper. I thought our defense was better when he stepped in when Cooper got hurt. The he might not be a long term solution at ILB I certainly thought he was "it" until someone better came along. To be frank, my opinion and what the Chargers have tendered him at aren't lining up, so there must be something the Chargers know that I don't. Though ILB certainly is looking like a BIG need these days.

Not Tendered-

Legedu Naanee - Still think he signs somewhere and very possibly with the Chargers. Due to the arrest, welcome to league minimum. Believe it or not I still think this guy can play. Would love to know the managements thinking on why they didn't tender anything.

As far as the draft goes, still thinking DE, OLBx2, ILB, OT/WR in the first three rounds going with the best player available. AJ I promise you right now if you move up again, I'm just gonna turn off the TV and try to drink enough to forget how much the Chargers have hurt me over the years. It's an abusive relationship it really is.

Those are my thoughts on the subject, would love to hear yours.

PS. I know it's not edited well, but I got other things to do for now.

Puddleglum
08-10-2011, 02:33 PM
Okay...Baph, JCDavey, Broncoholics, how did the Chargers do in FA and the draft (UDFA's included) this year?

Puddleglum
08-13-2011, 01:58 PM
QB Billy Volek - Having a capable backup is quite the luxury in this league. IMO I'm surprised he hasn't been champing at the bit for a starting job for years, instead he's seemed quite content to play second fiddle in San Diego. Although iirc he wants to start again so I can see him being hard to keep despite my wanting to bring him back. BACK

He is back for 2 years, and is hard to top for a backup QB.


WR Legedu Naanee - We will be having WR problems this coming year related to an exodus of WR talent (see other FA's), and although he spent a fair amount of the year hurt I do believe he can play in this league. Most importantly he knows the playbook. I think we can get him back cheap, though the fact that my stance on him is somewhat similar (aside from injuries) to Buster Davis is worrying. BACK

Tried to walk through a crime scene drunk in Indianapolis and played the "Do you know who I am card." Welcome to Carolina Legedu.


TE Randy McMichael - Considering people thought he had nothing left in the tank and filled in fairly nicely for Gates is worth noting. I think an effort will be made to bring back McMichael but AJ will not overpay for him and the development of Kory Sperry will have an effect on the outcome. Regardless I would like to keep him but I just don't think that is going to happen. GONE

McMichael is back for the veteran minimum for 1 year, Sperry has progressed so it turns our Kris Wilson got the boot.


OT Jeromey Clary - It is said that Clary had his best season this past year. That sounds great, sounds fantastic, but when you also learn that Rivers was the 3rd most sacked QB in the league it puts things into perspective. Last year I said that when our linemen started going down our back ups came in and performed extremely well. I'm now beginning to think that the problem is that our starters just aren't that much better than our back ups. AJ will make an offer to Clary but he won't hesitate in letting him walk and putting Dombrowski (the guy who played LT before McNeill came back) at RT. GONE

I updated my opinion lower in the post saying he would be back, but at 20 mil for 4 years I think the Chargers are just doing the best with what they got at this point.


DL Jacques Cesaire - As a DE he is the bar against which all of our DE talent is measured. He's not particularly good, he's just not bad either. We can probably get him back for cheap like Travis Johnson I'd like to keep him for depth. BACK

Back with the team with a 2 year contract as a mentor for Liuget.


DL Travis Johnson - A first round pick that has never lived up to his billing and has been unable to wrest the a starting job from Cesaire. His off field behavior (effort, on time, what the brass thinks of him, development / potential) more than anything else I believe will dictate if he comes back or not especially with Vaughn Martin getting a larger amount of snaps the last 6 games of the season. As I also think DE is where the Chargers could use an infusion of high grade talent in a DE heavy draft I think he is the odd man out. Gone

Appears to be the odd man out at DE.


LB Antwan Applewhite - An OLB that regardless of being a SDSU product has never really got it done on the field, unless "getting it done" includes inciting stupid penalties. Buried in the depth chart is pretty much the story of his life, but considering that OLB is one of our biggest weaknesses and he is still not able to shine is the problem. GONE

Banished to the 49'ers and good riddance. Although it does feel like Travis LaBoy just kind of traded teams with him.


LB Kevin Burnett - We have been lacking a solid coverage ILB since Donnie Edwards (whom I'm still pissed we let go), regardless of injury issues Burnett stepped up and showed us he can play. He is a big part of our revitalization on defense and IMO is a key FA we need to keep. BACK

I don't think our heart was into keeping him and so Miami snatched him up. The bigger question is if this is a statement on Butler's progress (the rookie who seems to be taking his spot) or on Burnett as a player.


LB Stephen Cooper - Someone on the Charger's Message Board put it best for this guy "a great football mind, but not a great football body," or at least something like that. Too small, too light, and too slow is not how you want to describe your ILB's and that has described him perfectly for the past 3-4 years regardless of his football instincts. To be frank I'm not even sure I want him back as a back up, I want to move on. Regardless, I think he comes BACK.

Brought back for depth, not sure I like the move now that Spikes is in the picture and leading. Let's hope he can support the team outside of a leadership role.


LB Brandon Siler - Took over for Cooper when he was hurt and IMO our defense was better for it. He's young but of the 3 digs against Cooper, Siler is only slow, but unlike Cooper can tackle one on one and can shed a block. I'd like to think he would be cheap but unfortunately I think he played just enough this year to show up on the radar of other GM's. He will be harder to keep but I think he will be payed because of a lack of depth and uncertainties at the position. BACK

He was made obsolete when we brought in Takeo Spikes. Not sure I like him going to the Chiefs though, because he doesn't suck.


FS Paul Oliver - Played SS this year, when Gregory was tagged with performance enhancers (you'd think he would have played better). He's a career back up and will carry that price tag, we could do worse but we could also do so much better, how about getting us a real SS AJ? BACK

Gone to New Orleans, his roster spot went to Bob Sanders.


FS Eric Weddle - As far as I'm concerned he's the only damn person on the whole defense who can tackle. Exaggerated? Yes, but I do actually feel that way. Sometimes it feels like we only field about 5 guys when we are on defense, he is one of these people. He's not the best FS to ever play the game but at the very worst he is solid, and a key FA. I'd like to say that a deal will be done a matter of hours after there is a new CBA but if the past is any indication there is some kind of unspeakable evil that lurks in the team wallet and opening it just a sliver puts the whole world at great risk. Instead AJ chooses to keep it closed, in an effort to prevent this certain doom from consuming the world and all that we hold dear. BACK

A LOT of money for a FS. Glad he's back, not sure if I'm 40 million in 5 years kind of glad however. Did end up taking a San Diego discount, I would be oddly interested to know what Houston did offer him.


WR Vincent Jackson - Smith is going to find a way to get value out of the guy, be it playing time or draft picks, and possibly both. Regardless I don't believe he will get a long term contract from San Diego. We could have traded him last off season and gotten some picks for this draft but alas no we wanted those 6 or so games out of him. BACK

Has kept the card of a taxi service or hired a driver, either way he's stayed clean enough to warrant a franchise tag.


WR Malcom Floyd - Injury Prone is the only way to describe this guy, makes sense when you see him play, he's essentially a human gazelle. An acceptable #2 who will probably only be back if we don't Franchise Tag VJ because he can get a couple mil a year in free agency. GONE

Tested free agency and didn't get many offers to his liking so found a way back home for 2.5mil a year. A steal for a #2 WR.


RB Darren Sproles - He had a bad year as a kick returner, though I think our special teams as a unit last year was at a club low. It is my opinion that the team somehow does not know how to use Sproles, and seeing as it will take millions to keep a good player that we can't use properly I think we won't keep him. AJ only sees the $ signs and agrees, especially when Brinkley performed well enough and will be so much cheaper.GONE

Gone to New Orleans, we're gonna miss the person not the player so much. The hunt for his replacement is on in Jordan Toddman, Isac Odim, and Shawnbrey McNeil.

Other notes:

Buster Davis cut - Now plays for the Bills.

Jyles Tucker cut - Can't believe we gave him a big contract.

Nick Richond cut - Surprising with all the past TC hype. Turns out there was an injury settlement. He may play elsewhere when healthy.