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Blondie79
03-11-2013, 01:25 PM
The man who made flacco his $$ (well one of them)

Traded to 49ers for a 6th round pick... 9 ers got a steal.!

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BREAKING: Anquan Boldin traded to @49ers for sixth-round pick via @ravensinsider

JayJack
03-11-2013, 01:33 PM
Baltimore was going to release Boldin, anyway, so to get a draft pick in return was a plus.

Blondie79
03-11-2013, 01:40 PM
Yeah i know that, however he should have got paid by ravens , but they gave it all to flacco. I feel bad for boldin tbh

bears6385
03-11-2013, 01:45 PM
The man who made flacco his $$ (well one of them)

Traded to 49ers for a 6th round pick... 9 ers got a steal.!

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BREAKING: Anquan Boldin traded to @49ers for sixth-round pick via @ravensinsiderDon't know if it will be a steal. Boldin is not coming off a great year and turns 33 next season. Also the 9ers still lack the burner to take full advantage of Kapernick's big arm.

JayJack
03-11-2013, 01:46 PM
Yeah i know that, however he should have got paid by ravens , but they gave it all to flacco. I feel bad for boldin tbh

Well, Boldin wasn't a FA, I believe he still has 2 yrs left on his contract, but the Ravens have Cap issues which is why they wanted Boldin to take a paycut. I think they should've kept Boldin, but it's the nature of the business. With the draft being deep at receiver, i'm pretty sure they feel like he is replacable.

LSIGRAD09
03-11-2013, 01:51 PM
49ers are SCARY good.

JayJack
03-11-2013, 01:59 PM
Here Jim, sorry for the Superbowl lost.

BroncoFanBoy
03-11-2013, 02:58 PM
The man who made flacco his $$ (well one of them)



Exactly.

He's one of the casualties of "Flacco cash."

But if Boldin actually plays for the 49ers, I will be shocked. He did say he wouldn't play for any other team.

elway93
03-11-2013, 04:14 PM
Exactly.

He's one of the casualties of "Flacco cash."

But if Boldin actually plays for the 49ers, I will be shocked. He did say he wouldn't play for any other team.

Still, I think he should. I know that I would want to help another team win the Super Bowl if the team that I had just helped do so decided to dump me in order to pay their average Joe QB $20 million a year.

Frankenpost
03-11-2013, 06:31 PM
I don't remember Boldin in the Super Bowl, but i remember Jacoby Jones. Didn't he have like 3 TD's?

Maybe keeping Jones and dropping 6 mill off the cap with a 6th round pick to boot ain't so bad.

http://rantsports.media.s3.amazonaws.com/nfl/files/2013/02/Jacoby-Jones-Super-Bowl-XLVII-2.jpg

The 49'rs just traded for the wrong WR. :coffee:

Orange Pants
03-11-2013, 09:15 PM
I don't remember Boldin in the Super Bowl, but i remember Jacoby Jones. Didn't he have like 3 TD's?

Maybe keeping Jones and dropping 6 mill off the cap with a 6th round pick to boot ain't so bad.

http://rantsports.media.s3.amazonaws.com/nfl/files/2013/02/Jacoby-Jones-Super-Bowl-XLVII-2.jpg

The 49'rs just traded for the wrong WR. :coffee:

I know the feeling. GRONK 2013!

BroncoFanBoy
03-11-2013, 09:53 PM
Still, I think he should. I know that I would want to help another team win the Super Bowl if the team that I had just helped do so decided to dump me in order to pay their average Joe QB $20 million a year.

I think he should too, but it's his decision, not mine.

GoManning
03-11-2013, 10:16 PM
The Ravens fans are calling Boldin old and slow just because he's a 49ers now.

Peanut
03-11-2013, 11:02 PM
:laugh:

That's my reaction when I read about this.

I think I might actually watch the Ravens next year. I might find it entertaining and enjoyable. :D

fallforward3y+
03-12-2013, 12:51 AM
He's a perfect fit on the 49ers, he's a first down machine. He can run it like a RB so they can throw short passes to him if somebody's defense is overpowering their blocking and still have a form of a run game. Also, they can throw to him when they are trying to run out the clock if they have 2 bad runs on 1st and 2nd down. He's great in general as another weapon for in their receiving core.

They already have a great defense, good offensive line and good backs. Now, on top of that they have a QB that can run and throw as well as a good receiving core so they are a good team in all areas. That's tough to stop, this makes them the favorites to win the Superbowl in my opnion. They'll be hard to beat.

thenewera44
03-12-2013, 05:14 AM
I do not know about your fantasy football league and how it works, but a trade like that would not be allowed in ours.

That would not be allowed by our commissioner.

Then again our commissioner use to play for UM and actually knows football.

Seriously though. There is a commissioner in the NFL. Someone is trying to tell me that teams like the Dolphins (Boldins home town basically) or the Bears, or any other team would not have offered more than a 6th rounder for Anquan Boldin?

So if we believe that ONE team would offer more than a 6th rounder, then what are we to conclude?

I am not sure, but something smells about this.

fallforward3y+
03-12-2013, 05:54 AM
It is weird to trade away an important player to a team you just played in the Superbowl, but its not like it means something fishy is going on. Who wouldn't want the opportunity to go play in San Fransisco? They are a team who is now a regular contender, and they have great players on both sides of the ball for players to train against in practice. That can help make a good or average player great, and keep a great player at a high level. Plus Boldin is a perfect fit there. They probably offered it, and he jumped quick at the chance to go there.

thenewera44
03-12-2013, 06:01 AM
It is weird to trade away an important player to a team you just played in the Superbowl, but its not like it means something fishy is going on. Who wouldn't want the opportunity to go play in San Fransisco? They are a team who is now a regular contender, and they have great players on both sides of the ball for players to train against in practice. That can help make a good or average player great, and keep a great player at a high level. Plus Boldin is a perfect fit there. They probably offered it, and he jumped quick at the chance to go there.

That is not really the question. Of course Boldin will not mind playing in San Fran. What an opportunity.

However, from the point of view of the Ravens, how does a 6th round pick help them in any real way?

Broncos landed a 4th and a 6th I think for Tebow.

Something does not add up here.

No team out there would have offered something better than a 6th round pick for Anquan Boldin? None?

BroncoFanNC
03-12-2013, 06:07 AM
I thought they said Flaccos cap hit this year was only 6 mill?

They just said on Mike and Mike Flaccos completion rate last year to Boldin was 61%, all other receivers less than 50% for the Ravens. Yikes.

fallforward3y+
03-12-2013, 07:38 PM
That is not really the question. Of course Boldin will not mind playing in San Fran. What an opportunity.

However, from the point of view of the Ravens, how does a 6th round pick help them in any real way?

Broncos landed a 4th and a 6th I think for Tebow.

Something does not add up here.

No team out there would have offered something better than a 6th round pick for Anquan Boldin? None?

They may have not wanted to give him to a team in the AFC, they like the thought of him being in another conference. Boldin is sort of an unsung, but good player, maybe no one offered anything that great. Perhaps they thought a 6th round pick was better than a 4th round but sending him to the AFC

fallforward3y+
03-12-2013, 07:58 PM
That is not really the question. Of course Boldin will not mind playing in San Fran. What an opportunity.

However, from the point of view of the Ravens, how does a 6th round pick help them in any real way?

Broncos landed a 4th and a 6th I think for Tebow.

Something does not add up here.

No team out there would have offered something better than a 6th round pick for Anquan Boldin? None?

They may have not wanted to give him to a team in the AFC, they like the thought of him being in another conference. Boldin is sort of an unsung, but good player, maybe no one offered anything that great. Perhaps they thought a 6th round pick was better than a 4th round but sending him to the AFC

BroncoFanBoy
03-12-2013, 11:28 PM
This may sound a little off-topic, but it does have something to do with the Ravens.

I wonder what Charlie thinks of them getting Paul Kruger.

Baller7120
03-12-2013, 11:53 PM
Don't know if it will be a steal. Boldin is not coming off a great year and turns 33 next season. Also the 9ers still lack the burner to take full advantage of Kapernick's big arm.

Crabtree is a burner. Maybe not Wallace type but still good enough. Plus kaepernick has resurrected V. Davis which defenses can't seem to cover again..

Baller7120
03-13-2013, 12:04 AM
I don't remember Boldin in the Super Bowl, but i remember Jacoby Jones. Didn't he have like 3 TD's?

Maybe keeping Jones and dropping 6 mill off the cap with a 6th round pick to boot ain't so bad.

http://rantsports.media.s3.amazonaws.com/nfl/files/2013/02/Jacoby-Jones-Super-Bowl-XLVII-2.jpg

The 49'rs just traded for the wrong WR. :coffee:

No they traded for the right WR. The 49ers are ramped up to win multiple superbowls. Boldin was the best WR in the post season of 2013.

vs. colts - 5-145-1TD
vs. broncos - 6-71
vs. patriots - 5-60-2TD
vs. 49ers - 6-104-1TD

BTW - Jones had 1-56-1TD and a kick return for TD..

Baller7120
03-13-2013, 12:18 AM
Plus Boldin made the no **** catches to keep drives alive. Flacco looked to him everytime when they had critcal 3rd downs and need 1st downs.

thenewera44
03-13-2013, 03:32 AM
They may have not wanted to give him to a team in the AFC, they like the thought of him being in another conference. Boldin is sort of an unsung, but good player, maybe no one offered anything that great. Perhaps they thought a 6th round pick was better than a 4th round but sending him to the AFC

Yeah. Perhaps they did not want him in the AFC. Then again, it depends which team in the AFC. I would think a team like the Dolphins would offer more than a 6th for Boldin. I mean look at what they just paid for a WR that does nothing more than runs straight really fast.

Steelers fans will tell you. The guy does not have good hands and he is very limited in route running. He has never had more than 72 catches in a season and he did that only once. Is he worth 13 million per year 30 mill garunteed?

The point is I cannot imagine the Ravens viewing the Dolphins as this immediate threat in the AFC, even if they did get Boldin. Is that team a Boldin away from all of a sudden being this threat in the AFC? It is not like they are in the same division.

Either way, I am sure there are other teams that would have offered more than a 6th rounder. What does a 6th rounder get you? Anything?

fallforward3y+
03-13-2013, 03:59 AM
Yeah. Perhaps they did not want him in the AFC. Then again, it depends which team in the AFC. I would think a team like the Dolphins would offer more than a 6th for Boldin. I mean look at what they just paid for a WR that does nothing more than runs straight really fast.

Steelers fans will tell you. The guy does not have good hands and he is very limited in route running. He has never had more than 72 catches in a season and he did that only once. Is he worth 13 million per year 30 mill garunteed?

The point is I cannot imagine the Ravens viewing the Dolphins as this immediate threat in the AFC, even if they did get Boldin. Is that team a Boldin away from all of a sudden being this threat in the AFC? It is not like they are in the same division.

Either way, I am sure there are other teams that would have offered more than a 6th rounder. What does a 6th rounder get you? Anything?

Dolphins signed Mike Wallace, I presume. Maybe that's why they didn't go after Boldin they felt they already had their top WR. He may not be the best route runner, but any deep threat is valuable to an offense. The threat of scoring at any time during the game is what they are looking for. Its not about their stats, its about what they bring to the team. Jacobi Jones has never had a great season statistically, but I bet a lot of teams would like to have him. In this era more than ever, a player who is only good at one thing can be valuable with WRs and RBs.

thenewera44
03-13-2013, 04:44 AM
Dolphins signed Mike Wallace, I presume. Maybe that's why they didn't go after Boldin they felt they already had their top WR. He may not be the best route runner, but any deep threat is valuable to an offense. The threat of scoring at any time during the game is what they are looking for. Its not about their stats, its about what they bring to the team. Jacobi Jones has never had a great season statistically, but I bet a lot of teams would like to have him. In this era more than ever, a player who is only good at one thing can be valuable with WRs and RBs.

Yeah, they signed Wallace YESTERDAY, and Boldin was traded a FEW DAYS AGO.

Wallace is not that great and cerainly not worth what he was paid imo. Never had 72 catches in a season?

More importantly than having a deep threat is having a guy to move the chains. Boldin is a big target, great hands and can catch the deep ball.

It is not like Boldin is a slow poke.

My point is other than what the Dolphins could use is the fact that NO TEAM was going to offer more than a 6th round pick for Boldin?

Something smells.

Captain_23
03-13-2013, 06:47 AM
Flacco hurt the Ravens big time. The Ravens will deny it, but the lost Kruger, Ellerbe, and possibly Reed and traded Boldin because they gave Flacco too much money.. I give them 2-3 years before they ask him to restructure or they will always lose key plays when its time to resign them to long term deals.

They made a grave mistake giving him all that money.. They lost 3/4ths of their starting LB corps (although they anticipate Upshaw being the starter opposite Suggs this year) This draft class really don't have a super, super star at any position, and the way I see it anybody can become a steal and a lot of players in this draft has high potential to become busts'. They have the big holes in the LB corps and the secondary losing Reed and Williams, and now need another Wr..

They cant afford to miss on one player within the first 3 or 4 rounds.. They are going to have to find diamonds in the ruff, and like I said this is a very boom or bust draft imo.

BroncoSexyDaddy
03-13-2013, 10:06 AM
Flacco hurt the Ravens big time. The Ravens will deny it, but the lost Kruger, Ellerbe, and possibly Reed and traded Boldin because they gave Flacco too much money.. I give them 2-3 years before they ask him to restructure or they will always lose key plays when its time to resign them to long term deals.

They made a grave mistake giving him all that money.. They lost 3/4ths of their starting LB corps (although they anticipate Upshaw being the starter opposite Suggs this year) This draft class really don't have a super, super star at any position, and the way I see it anybody can become a steal and a lot of players in this draft has high potential to become busts'. They have the big holes in the LB corps and the secondary losing Reed and Williams, and now need another Wr..

They cant afford to miss on one player within the first 3 or 4 rounds.. They are going to have to find diamonds in the ruff, and like I said this is a very boom or bust draft imo.They lost hard hitting Benard Pollard today as well.

Captain_23
03-13-2013, 01:06 PM
They lost hard hitting Benard Pollard today as well.

Smh. Thats crazy. They lost all these key cogs that were vital to their success to pay one man that needed help from the refs in every playoff game to win, including the super bowl.. One of the flukest super bowl wins in the history of the super bowl if you ask me. This will be Ozzie Newsome's biggest downfall since taking over as GM. He is the last GM in the NFL i would think could make a serious mistake like he has.

I guess in his defense, the draft sucks as far as year one franchise passers and free agency qbs are even worse so the cards played right into Flaccos hands, but like i said, 2-3 years they will ask him to restructure. He isnt Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Peyton Manning, he cant take a talentless team and win big with them. He isnt that guy.

FL BRONCO
03-13-2013, 09:44 PM
Yeah. Perhaps they did not want him in the AFC. Then again, it depends which team in the AFC. I would think a team like the Dolphins would offer more than a 6th for Boldin. I mean look at what they just paid for a WR that does nothing more than runs straight really fast.

Steelers fans will tell you. The guy does not have good hands and he is very limited in route running. He has never had more than 72 catches in a season and he did that only once. Is he worth 13 million per year 30 mill garunteed?

The point is I cannot imagine the Ravens viewing the Dolphins as this immediate threat in the AFC, even if they did get Boldin. Is that team a Boldin away from all of a sudden being this threat in the AFC? It is not like they are in the same division.

Either way, I am sure there are other teams that would have offered more than a 6th rounder. What does a 6th rounder get you? Anything?

Terrelle Davis

fallforward3y+
03-14-2013, 02:23 AM
They lost hard hitting Benard Pollard today as well.

Pollard is overrated. He goes for big hits on guys who aren't running at him in a 1 on 1 to get noticed, but he doesn't wrap up well so he's prone to missed tackles.

thenewera44
03-14-2013, 06:19 AM
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Terrelle Davis

Yeah, I was expecting someone to throw out the Terrell Davis example when I brought up a 6th rounder or maybe Tom Brady.


So let me clarify the comment for people that bring up the 1% chance of landing a Terrell Davis or Tom Brady in the 6th round.


Yeah. a team would have a 1% chance of landing a true impact player in the 6th round.

Peanut
03-14-2013, 10:14 PM
I took a look at the Ravens' board out of curiosity. The fans are very optimistic considering all that they've lost. It's almost like so-and-so wasn't really that good anyway.

Most of them think we are scary good and do not look forward to playing in Denver. Beautiful words to read. :D

Blondie79
03-15-2013, 12:10 AM
lol yeah i was reading there forums too.. "its cool he sucked anyway"

before playoffs "get rid of flacco, he is the devil of this team"

After a lucky SB run in which his WR's completely bailed him out.. and he got millions "so glad flacco got paid, hes a beast". ..

Cant wait to see nxt seasons posts.

BroncoFanBoy
03-15-2013, 11:28 AM
lol yeah i was reading there forums too.. "its cool he sucked anyway"

before playoffs "get rid of flacco, he is the devil of this team"

After a lucky SB run in which his WR's completely bailed him out.. and he got millions "so glad flacco got paid, hes a beast". ..

Cant wait to see next seasons posts.

To add onto this, I saw one mock draft in December on Walter Football that predicting the Ravens drafting a QB with their first round pick.

hopedawg
03-15-2013, 03:27 PM
Cary Williams was drafted in the 7th, Ellerbe was an undrafted rookie. Both just signed big contracts. Not all talent is found in the first couple rounds - look at the Brady 6.
Pollard's getting cut had nothing to do with his play on the field, apparently it was worth losing money to get rid of him.
http://wnst.net/baltimore-ravens/pollard/

Congrats on the Welker signing! Best FA deal so far - scary good!

thenewera44
03-15-2013, 03:28 PM
Cary Williams was drafted in the 7th, Ellerbe was an undrafted rookie. Both just signed big contracts. Not all talent is found in the first couple rounds - look at the Brady 6.
Pollard's getting cut had nothing to do with his play on the field, apparently it was worth losing money to get rid of him.
http://wnst.net/baltimore-ravens/pollard/

Congrats on the Welker signing! Best FA deal so far - scary good!

Yeah. I referred to this rarity in post #34.

Just to reiterate.

Yeah, I was expecting someone to throw out the Terrell Davis example when I brought up a 6th rounder or maybe Tom Brady.


So let me clarify the comment for people that bring up the 1% chance of landing a Terrell Davis or Tom Brady in the 6th round.


Yeah. a team would have a 1% chance of landing a true impact player in the 6th round.

hopedawg
03-25-2013, 09:39 AM
Didn't miss that post, just chose to ignore it for its' ignorance. 1%? Really?

Ellerbe, Leach, Tucker, Birk, Ihedigbo.... That's 15% of your SB-winning STARTERS that came in the 7th or as UFDA's.
Meanwhile, the Ravens just essentially traded a second-string benchwarmer (Kruger) for Doom. a compensatory pick, AND $6 million.
Who's laughing now?

Keep underestimating the Ravens and Ozzie Newsome. Please.

BroncoFanBoy
03-25-2013, 10:42 AM
Didn't miss that post, just chose to ignore it for its' ignorance. 1%? Really?

Ellerbe, Leach, Tucker, Birk, Ihedigbo.... That's 15% of your SB-winning STARTERS that came in the 7th or as UFDA's.
Meanwhile, the Ravens just essentially traded a second-string benchwarmer (Kruger) for Doom. a compensatory pick, AND $6 million.
Who's laughing now?

Keep underestimating the Ravens and Ozzie Newsome. Please.

But you do see what he's saying, right? There usually aren't players available in the 6th that turn out to be great. Besides, fullbacks like Leach would be since they usually aren't drafted in the higher rounds. Besides, Leach came into the NFL with the Packers. Baltimore signed him as a free agent after 2010.

hopedawg
03-25-2013, 11:36 AM
No, I do get it, and you're right, it's rare. (Ihedigbo came as a FA, and only started on ST's, as well. Not saying HOFers, but still...quality)
It's just that Ozzie has a real strong history of finding those overlooked diamonds in the rough, and in Baltimore we're used to 6th rounders coming out of nowhere and playing lights-out.

The sarcastic arrogance of newera's post just rubbed me the wrong way. I like dropping in here from time to time because I respect your team, I love PFM, and there's usually some pretty intelligent football conversation going on.

It's been a little harder to dig for this week with all the hate being spewed over Doom.
I get that, too - I mean, we just lost Ed Reed, but WOW.