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bears6385
05-13-2013, 04:49 PM
Trades, free agency, draft. Who had the best off season in the NFCN.

1 Bears

2 Vikings

3 Packers

4 Lions

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-13-2013, 05:06 PM
Why is that you think the Bears had a better offseason than the Vikings? The Vikings had a much better draft.

I like the Bears 2nd round pick, but I believe Kyle Long was a bit of a reach. You don't take an OG that high unless you're pretty sure he's the next Iupati.

InsaneBlaze23
05-13-2013, 05:43 PM
The Bears didn't even have the 2nd best offseason let alone the 1st.
Vikings had the best offseason in the NFL North. Hell it's debatable that the Vikings had one of the best offseason's in the league.
I'd say the other 3 are even, with a chance of making an argument for the Packers having a better offseason.

They answered 2 big question marks in the draft by getting some OL help and getting Lacey and Franklin. Franklin being the more underrated back in the entire draft. They address the defense a little, but not much. But the Packers have players on defense. They just need to fire Don Chapers. Datone Jones will be a best.

Lions really played the replacement role during the draft. They lost Cliff Avril whom in my opinion was one of the best pass rushers in the league and very underrated. They replaced him with Ziggy. But never really improved much. They got some help in the secondary but that's it.
They even did nothing but replace on offense. One of their biggest issues on offense is their OL, they got a replacement player for Backus.
The only really improvement they got to me was Reggie Bush, whom is becoming an all around back and not just a PR guy or catching out of the back field.

Bears eh, didn't really do much. Lost Urlacher, reached in the draft for Long.
Jon Bostic could end up being a pretty good player. I like that pick, but that's about it.

bears6385
05-13-2013, 07:12 PM
Why is that you think the Bears had a better offseason than the Vikings? The Vikings had a much better draft.

I like the Bears 2nd round pick, but I believe Kyle Long was a bit of a reach. You don't take an OG that high unless you're pretty sure he's the next Iupati.It's more than just the draft, it would also include free agency. Bushrod, a pro bowl LT, Slauson a veteran OG who did not give up a sack last year. One of the few Jets to have a good season, M. Bennett, a very good combo TE who at 26 seems to have a big future ahead of him. On defense two big fast athletic LB's, Anderson a huge upgrade over Roach and Williams who can back up all three LB positions or start if Bostic is not ready.

As for the Bears draft, it was not sexy but it was solid. Long in the first round makes sense for the Bears because they are building their OL much like the Saints have from the inside out. Long fits what the Bears want on their OL, a very athletic OG and will start. Bostic has the ability to start as a rookie. That's six starters added this off season.

The loss of Harvin, and MLB Brinkly offset a very good draft. Rhodes is a great pick, Patterson, has a ways to go as a WR, could make a bigger impact this year as a return man, Floyd appears to be all you want as a 3tech, but you still have to question why he dropped from a supposed top 5 pick all the way to 23. What do NFL GM's know that we fans don't? He will also start the season behind Williams. Jennings is a great pickup.........if he can stay healthy. It is taking two players to replace Harvin, Jennings as a WR and Patterson in the return game, and they have yet to replace Brinkly.

Broncoholic3233
05-13-2013, 08:44 PM
1. Lions

2. Packers

3. Vikings

4. Bears

theMileHighGuy
05-13-2013, 08:52 PM
The Bears had a pretty good offseason, but I don't think better than the Vikings. The Vikes have filled all their needs (well quarterback is still debatable, but...) and I don't think the same can be said for the Bears. It depends on who they start at MLB tbh. If they put that rookie in there over DJ it will probably be a mistake. Either way, I think D.J. is pretty good but he is not Urlacher, who that defense really hinged on. Could've probably added a pass-rusher too.

Atwnbroncfan
05-13-2013, 09:08 PM
Vikings had the best offseason just from the fact that they now have a plan in place to get rid of the worst stadium in football.

bears6385
05-13-2013, 09:21 PM
The Bears didn't even have the 2nd best offseason let alone the 1st.
Vikings had the best offseason in the NFL North. Hell it's debatable that the Vikings had one of the best offseason's in the league.
I'd say the other 3 are even, with a chance of making an argument for the Packers having a better offseason.

They answered 2 big question marks in the draft by getting some OL help and getting Lacey and Franklin. Franklin being the more underrated back in the entire draft. They address the defense a little, but not much. But the Packers have players on defense. They just need to fire Don Chapers. Datone Jones will be a best.

Lions really played the replacement role during the draft. They lost Cliff Avril whom in my opinion was one of the best pass rushers in the league and very underrated. They replaced him with Ziggy. But never really improved much. They got some help in the secondary but that's it.
They even did nothing but replace on offense. One of their biggest issues on offense is their OL, they got a replacement player for Backus.
The only really improvement they got to me was Reggie Bush, whom is becoming an all around back and not just a PR guy or catching out of the back field.

Bears eh, didn't really do much. Lost Urlacher, reached in the draft for Long.
Jon Bostic could end up being a pretty good player. I like that pick, but that's about it.You would be right if we were only talking about the draft, but you also have to take into account free agency.

Bears/Vikings...........see above.

Packers......Is a 4th round pick really going to impact that OL? Otherwise the Packers are doing exactly what the Bears tried to do last season, shift the same players around who allowed your QB to take a beating. Bulaga from RT to LT, a OG to C, a former #1 pick Sherrod who you are hoping is fully recovered from a horrible injury. I know Ted Thompson does not like to get into free agency but this should have been the year with three LT's hitting the open market, Long and Bushrod in free agency, and Albert through trade. As for your draft, Jones and Lacy appear to be outstanding picks, but Thompson is redrafting at those positions year after year to make up for failed high picks. DL Harrell(1), Neal(2) Worthy(2) Jones(1) RB Jackson(2) Green(3) Lacy(2). The Pack looks to have gotten two starters out of this draft, while the Bears seem to have gotten 6/7 new starters through the draft and free agency.

Lions.......Quite simply they have lost quality starters, that to this date have not all been replaced, Backus, Avril, Vanden Bosch, plus the solid Justin Durant.

bears6385
05-13-2013, 09:47 PM
The Bears had a pretty good offseason, but I don't think better than the Vikings. The Vikes have filled all their needs (well quarterback is still debatable, but...) and I don't think the same can be said for the Bears. It depends on who they start at MLB tbh. If they put that rookie in there over DJ it will probably be a mistake. Either way, I think D.J. is pretty good but he is not Urlacher, who that defense really hinged on. Could've probably added a pass-rusher too.Not unless the Vikings hit on every one of those first round picks. The Vikings still have a need at LB and at WR because Patterson is far from a finished product. Urlacher, it depends if you are talking about the healthy Urlacher in 2011 before his knee injury or the very limited Urlacher of 2012. As much as I hate to say it Urlacher does not have the speed to cover the ground in this defense anymore, but both Jon Bostic and D.J. Williams do. Peppers, Melton, Wootten, and McCellin, the pass rush seems to be in good hands. Some also like Cornelius Washington from our draft as a rush specialist.

InsaneBlaze23
05-13-2013, 09:50 PM
You would be right if we were only talking about the draft, but you also have to take into account free agency.

Bears/Vikings...........see above.

Packers......Is a 4th round pick really going to impact that OL? Otherwise the Packers are doing exactly what the Bears tried to do last season, shift the same players around who allowed your QB to take a beating. Bulaga from RT to LT, a OG to C, a former #1 pick Sherrod who you are hoping is fully recovered from a horrible injury. I know Ted Thompson does not like to get into free agency but this should have been the year with three LT's hitting the open market, Long and Bushrod in free agency, and Albert through trade. As for your draft, Jones and Lacy appear to be outstanding picks, but Thompson is redrafting at those positions year after year to make up for failed high picks. DL Harrell(1), Neal(2) Worthy(2) Jones(1) RB Jackson(2) Green(3) Lacy(2). The Pack looks to have gotten two starters out of this draft, while the Bears seem to have gotten 6/7 new starters through the draft and free agency.

Lions.......Quite simply they have lost quality starters, that to this date have not all been replaced, Backus, Avril, Vanden Bosch, plus the solid Justin Durant.

But I'm not just talking Bears draft. I only mention it because their FA isn't worth mentioning. You got Williams, okay he isn't amazing, he is just a solid LB.

Packers didn't go after big name FA because they wanted to lock up Matthews and Rodgers. They also have enough faith in James Jones to step in for Jennings.

Those aren't even failed picks, the rookies played one season. You can't base their entire career off one season, and again a lot of the Packers players would shine if they got a new DC.

Bears didn't do anything impressive and will likely fight for 3rd place with the Lions.

bears6385
05-13-2013, 10:07 PM
But I'm not just talking Bears draft. I only mention it because their FA isn't worth mentioning. You got Williams, okay he isn't amazing, he is just a solid LB.

Packers didn't go after big name FA because they wanted to lock up Matthews and Rodgers. They also have enough faith in James Jones to step in for Jennings.

Those aren't even failed picks, the rookies played one season. You can't base their entire career off one season, and again a lot of the Packers players would shine if they got a new DC.

Bears didn't do anything impressive and will likely fight for 3rd place with the Lions.FA not worth mentioning????? A pro bowl LT, one of the better combo TE's, a OG who did not give up a sack all year while playing on a horrible team, a very solid sam LB, and Williams who will probably lose a camp battle with Bostic, but will still be able to backup all three LB positions, plus a run blocking TE who may have hands of stone but will crush you in goal line and short yardage. I would say our GM Phil Emery did a very impressive job this off season.

Packers never use FA, this just happens to be a year where they should have helped that crap OL.

Worthy was only one player on that list that was a rookie, the rest are failed picks.