PDA

View Full Version : Top 10 WRs



B Real 15
05-16-2013, 09:19 AM
I know we have been discussing if DT was a top 10 receiver and please lets keep it respectful. I don't think he is top 10 and here is my list. Feel free to make your own list and comments as well.

Mine are in no order:

Marques Colston
Calvin Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Roddy White
A.J. Green
Brandon Marshall
Dez Bryant
Vincent Jackson
Reggie Wayne
Andre Johnson

That is my top 10......I had DT at 12 behind Steve Smith but I believe that after this season, depending on how he does, that he could eventually be in the top 10.

Denver Mike
05-29-2013, 02:09 PM
Decent list, but to be honest I don't think Dez has done anything to warrant a top 10 spot. He's got a boat-load of talent yes. But lets be honest, he doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the names of Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Andrew Johnson...

Not being disrespectful this is a very very good list, I like the credit you gave Colston, the dude is a stud. I'm just saying I'd put DT over Dez at this point in their careers. It's very neck and neck though

91bronco
05-29-2013, 07:38 PM
I would take DT over Dez, Colston and Jackson right now. I'm not sure how his stats rank against the other WR's I mentioned but his skillset is very well rounded.

bears6385
06-05-2013, 04:10 PM
1) Calvin Johnson

2) Brandon Marshall

3) Andre Johnson

4) A.J. Green

5) Larry Fitzgerald

6) Wes Welker

7) Roddy White

8) Demaryius Thomas

9) Victor Cruz

10) Marques Colston

InsaneBlaze23
06-05-2013, 04:12 PM
Fitz and Calvin are the best, the rest are irrelevant.

Alpha
06-06-2013, 05:32 AM
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-12-28/sports/ct-spt-1228-bears-pompei-chicago--20121228_1_brandon-marshall-calvin-johnson-complete-receiver
Johnson and Marshall incomparable
But wide receivers are alike only in size as they bring distinct gifts to their respective offenses
December 28, 2012|Dan Pompei | On the NFL



126

Forget Calvin Johnson versus Charles Tillman for a minute.

Let's pit Calvin Johnson against Brandon Marshall.

Viewed strictly on the field, who would you rather have?

Start here: Most teams in the NFL probably would love to have either.

"Either one is a 'reason you win' type of player," said one general manager who has studied both.
Ads by Google

Stop Doing "Speed Drills"Speed Coach Reveals Winning Formula For Faster Athletes. Free Video! Youth-Speed-Training.com

"Both are special," said Bears defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli, who was head coach of the Lions when the team picked Johnson. "They both like the ball. Both have great hands, size, and leaping ability. They have the whole package. And they both love football."

They have similar production this year. Marshall has just four fewer catches than Johnson, but is 426 yards off Johnson's record setting pace. Marshall also has six more touchdowns.

But they really aren't as similar as players as you might think.

"The only thing that is similar is their size," Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfield said of the 6-foot-41/2 Marshall and the 6-5 Johnson. "Calvin is the downfield guy. He's definitely going to outjump you. Brandon is the more complete receiver. He runs all the routes, the underneath routes, the slants, takes out defensive backs, runs over them. He's strong, and he has strong hands. Brandon is more physical."

Here is how Johnson and Marshall stack up in areas NFL scouts judge receivers.

Downfield playmaking ability

This is where Johnson separates himself from Marshall and every other receiver in the NFL, and why he is the best wide receiver in the NFL. You can't teach size and speed, and Johnson has a better combination of it than anyone.

If Marshall beats a cornerback deep, it's usually because he either deceives him or gets him off balance by being physical with him. Johnson routinely blows by corners.

Whereas Marshall is more likely to take the fight out of a defense with a series of body blows, Johnson can deliver a knockout punch more effectively.

"Calvin's faster," Winfield said. "You have to respect him and make sure he doesn't take the top off the defense. You have to make him catch the ball underneath and tackle him there. Anything over the top, you are in trouble."

Route running

Marshall presents more challenges to cornerbacks than Johnson because he runs every route in the tree with precision.

The general manager said Marshall has better feet, bend and balance in and out of his cuts.

Marshall is savvier in how he separates. He has to be because he isn't as explosive an athlete as Johnson.

Catching ability

Both players have good hands.

Each has dropped 10 passes this year, according to STATS. But that's understandable considering the number of passes coming their way. Marshall has had a drop on 5.6 percent of the balls thrown to him; Johnson on 5.3 percent.

What is interesting is Marshall's hands are more reliable on certain routes and Johnson's on others.

"Brandon has better, stronger more consistent hands and is at his best in jump situations or when he is posted up facing the QB," the general manager said. "Calvin appears to have the edge in some over the shoulder situations and the off target, contested end zone catch."
Ads by Google

Christian Brothers SettleThe Christian Brothers have agreed to settle claims. Learn more. www.christianbrotherssexabuse.com

Yards after catch

Both are proficient in this area, but in different ways. Johnson is more likely to run away from defenders with a sudden first step and finishing speed; Marshall uses his strong lower body and balance to break tackles better.

But Marshall is more likely eventually to get caught.

Johnson is averaging 4.45 yards after the catch this season, Marshall 3.13.

"Brandon is better after the catch," Winfield said. "He runs short routes, screens, and then you see him running down the sideline. He's very elusive for his size, and strong with great quickness."

Competitiveness

There is nothing lacking about Johnson's competitiveness, but no wide receiver is more competitive than Marshall.

On contested passes, Marshall plays stronger and with more determination, according to the GM.

Marshall, who played safety at Central Florida for a spell, sometimes plays with the mindset of a defender, coming back to the ball and breaking up potential interceptions as well as anyone. Even though Marshall does not have Johnson's hops, it's difficult for anyone to win a jump ball against him.

Marshall, whose nickname is "Beast," also is a superior blocker. Marshall seems to relish getting a chance to take defenders out of plays.

Johnson has some physical gifts Marshall doesn't possess. That, in part, was why Johnson was the second overall draft pick in 2007 and Marshall was the 119th pick in 2006.

But because of the rare passion and grit with which Marshall plays, he is not far behind Johnson in terms of his impact on his team.

dpompei@tribune.com

Twitter @danpompei

bears6385
06-08-2013, 01:40 PM
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-12-28/sports/ct-spt-1228-bears-pompei-chicago--20121228_1_brandon-marshall-calvin-johnson-complete-receiver
Johnson and Marshall incomparable
But wide receivers are alike only in size as they bring distinct gifts to their respective offenses
December 28, 2012|Dan Pompei | On the NFL



126

Forget Calvin Johnson versus Charles Tillman for a minute.

Let's pit Calvin Johnson against Brandon Marshall.

Viewed strictly on the field, who would you rather have?

Start here: Most teams in the NFL probably would love to have either.

"Either one is a 'reason you win' type of player," said one general manager who has studied both.
Ads by Google

Stop Doing "Speed Drills"Speed Coach Reveals Winning Formula For Faster Athletes. Free Video! Youth-Speed-Training.com

"Both are special," said Bears defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli, who was head coach of the Lions when the team picked Johnson. "They both like the ball. Both have great hands, size, and leaping ability. They have the whole package. And they both love football."

They have similar production this year. Marshall has just four fewer catches than Johnson, but is 426 yards off Johnson's record setting pace. Marshall also has six more touchdowns.

But they really aren't as similar as players as you might think.

"The only thing that is similar is their size," Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfield said of the 6-foot-41/2 Marshall and the 6-5 Johnson. "Calvin is the downfield guy. He's definitely going to outjump you. Brandon is the more complete receiver. He runs all the routes, the underneath routes, the slants, takes out defensive backs, runs over them. He's strong, and he has strong hands. Brandon is more physical."

Here is how Johnson and Marshall stack up in areas NFL scouts judge receivers.

Downfield playmaking ability

This is where Johnson separates himself from Marshall and every other receiver in the NFL, and why he is the best wide receiver in the NFL. You can't teach size and speed, and Johnson has a better combination of it than anyone.

If Marshall beats a cornerback deep, it's usually because he either deceives him or gets him off balance by being physical with him. Johnson routinely blows by corners.

Whereas Marshall is more likely to take the fight out of a defense with a series of body blows, Johnson can deliver a knockout punch more effectively.

"Calvin's faster," Winfield said. "You have to respect him and make sure he doesn't take the top off the defense. You have to make him catch the ball underneath and tackle him there. Anything over the top, you are in trouble."

Route running

Marshall presents more challenges to cornerbacks than Johnson because he runs every route in the tree with precision.

The general manager said Marshall has better feet, bend and balance in and out of his cuts.

Marshall is savvier in how he separates. He has to be because he isn't as explosive an athlete as Johnson.

Catching ability

Both players have good hands.

Each has dropped 10 passes this year, according to STATS. But that's understandable considering the number of passes coming their way. Marshall has had a drop on 5.6 percent of the balls thrown to him; Johnson on 5.3 percent.

What is interesting is Marshall's hands are more reliable on certain routes and Johnson's on others.

"Brandon has better, stronger more consistent hands and is at his best in jump situations or when he is posted up facing the QB," the general manager said. "Calvin appears to have the edge in some over the shoulder situations and the off target, contested end zone catch."
Ads by Google

Christian Brothers SettleThe Christian Brothers have agreed to settle claims. Learn more. www.christianbrotherssexabuse.com

Yards after catch

Both are proficient in this area, but in different ways. Johnson is more likely to run away from defenders with a sudden first step and finishing speed; Marshall uses his strong lower body and balance to break tackles better.

But Marshall is more likely eventually to get caught.

Johnson is averaging 4.45 yards after the catch this season, Marshall 3.13.

"Brandon is better after the catch," Winfield said. "He runs short routes, screens, and then you see him running down the sideline. He's very elusive for his size, and strong with great quickness."

Competitiveness

There is nothing lacking about Johnson's competitiveness, but no wide receiver is more competitive than Marshall.

On contested passes, Marshall plays stronger and with more determination, according to the GM.

Marshall, who played safety at Central Florida for a spell, sometimes plays with the mindset of a defender, coming back to the ball and breaking up potential interceptions as well as anyone. Even though Marshall does not have Johnson's hops, it's difficult for anyone to win a jump ball against him.

Marshall, whose nickname is "Beast," also is a superior blocker. Marshall seems to relish getting a chance to take defenders out of plays.

Johnson has some physical gifts Marshall doesn't possess. That, in part, was why Johnson was the second overall draft pick in 2007 and Marshall was the 119th pick in 2006.

But because of the rare passion and grit with which Marshall plays, he is not far behind Johnson in terms of his impact on his team.

dpompei@tribune.com

Twitter @danpompeiGreat article if you are a Bears or lions fan. Sure am glad Marshall is a Bear. I actually hope Marshall has less catches this year while Jeffery, M. Bennett, and E. Bennett step up and take some pressure off him.

theMileHighGuy
06-08-2013, 02:36 PM
Awesome article on Johnson and BMarsh. The only reason I put him behind Calvin is the sheer numbers. My top three would be Calvin/Marsh/Fitz. I sure hope Fitz can blow it up this year with Palmer. He's killed his career in Arizona. He very well could be #1 if he played with a half decent offense.