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hockey878
11-02-2014, 05:30 PM
helmet to helmet...

JordanElyea
11-02-2014, 05:30 PM
Bad call on fourth down...

roushmartin6
11-02-2014, 05:30 PM
Need 5 yards, lets throw four. This team is just plain stupid all around

Bootleg
11-02-2014, 05:30 PM
That play doesn't even remotely make sense there

HurricaneDovs
11-02-2014, 05:30 PM
Why on earth would you run a route that is short of the line?! This is just asinine!

LASERLIPS
11-02-2014, 05:30 PM
5 yards needed. Throws 3 yds. Makes sense.

SinePari
11-02-2014, 05:30 PM
This team's problem remains a lack of toughness - both mental and physical toughness. The offense relies on finesse and timing; it's unable to adjust when schemes are disrupted. The offensive line is still weak at the OT opposite Clady, there's still a questionable running game, and the WRs still refuse to fight through contact.

The defense can't make big stops when it matters - consistently giving up third and very long and collapsing when the chips are down. Even with the signings of TJ Ward, DeMarcus Ware, and Aqib Talib, the defense has not gotten into the "top tier" of defenses - it's still unable to make any significant stops on third and (very) long or create any takeaways (27th in the league in INTs and 30th in fumbles).

The big blowout wins were all against teams that were seriously hampered - the 49ers missing their three starting linebackers, the Cardinals playing with a third string QB, the Chargers playing w/o Matthews and most of their starting DBs. I have yet to see a complete game from this Denver team against a fully healthy opponent, which concerns me because the season is half over and Denver doesn't look any more ready to win the Super Bowl than it did last year.

JJBroncoFan
11-02-2014, 05:30 PM
thats a call the refs have to make.

Agreed, not the point I was making though.

nickmeyer
11-02-2014, 05:31 PM
New England is just not a place that is nice to Peyton. I think its in his head.

dandaman23
11-02-2014, 05:31 PM
They better not let the Pats score 50.

karaoke_jesus
11-02-2014, 05:31 PM
Why throw a yard short of the line? Why run a route one yard short?

That's on the receiver to get past the sticks. The ball was there

bronco30
11-02-2014, 05:31 PM
Sucks to lose, especially this way but it's just one game. Long way to go.

I agree but there clearly better today n if we have to go back up there not good..

Houshmazode
11-02-2014, 05:31 PM
New England is just not a place that is nice to Peyton. I think its in his head.

Like George Karl and the Lakers.

JJBroncoFan
11-02-2014, 05:31 PM
I don't understand hoping for yac om 4th down. Run the route BEYOND the first down line!

BlindFandom88
11-02-2014, 05:31 PM
Why are we constantly out coached? It's starting to get really really really old.

bronco30
11-02-2014, 05:32 PM
4td route on 4th n 5 u bet

JJBroncoFan
11-02-2014, 05:32 PM
Same stupid finesse team, no back bone what soever

Blazindro
11-02-2014, 05:32 PM
Well here comes the sky is falling posts. NEWS FLASH: New England looked like utter garbage against KC and turned out fine. NEWS FLASH: we will be just fine from here on out as well. NEWS FLASH: We lost to New England at New England last year, but beat them at home. If we get the advantage again no doubt in my mind we beat them. If we were to play up there again it'll be tough, but we can overcome it. It isn't impossible.

Broncos-R-Great
11-02-2014, 05:32 PM
I don't understand hoping for yac om 4th down. Run the route BEYOND the first down line!

Had time to throw, could've waited another second and let Sanders get past the line, Manning has been rushing passes all day

hockey878
11-02-2014, 05:32 PM
Agreed, not the point I was making though.

i know. it was a great play by manning and tamme. refs bailed pats out

100%Broncoholic
11-02-2014, 05:33 PM
There goes another MLB.... ARGH

the0rangecrush
11-02-2014, 05:33 PM
It's easy to complain about the refs, but at the end of the day Denver got punched in the mouth, and didn't hit back. The Pats were much more physical, and executed. At the end of the days this team still doesn't have that punch you in the mouth mentality. If Peyton is off, the team is off. The Pats exploited our weaknesses, and hats off to them.

EddieMac
11-02-2014, 05:33 PM
Great dead time injuries in a loss to add to the pile of crud today

Nuts4koi
11-02-2014, 05:33 PM
Doesn't look good for Irving. Hate to see this.

bronco30
11-02-2014, 05:33 PM
hopefully not serious for irving

LASERLIPS
11-02-2014, 05:33 PM
The one thing I was hoping for after it was evident this game was over.....stay healthy. Now we lose Irving. Awesome.

dandaman23
11-02-2014, 05:33 PM
Just what we need in a blowout.

one_bad_55
11-02-2014, 05:33 PM
Irving is done for the year

Gsam
11-02-2014, 05:34 PM
Until we can win in tough environments on the road, we will be nothing more than a team that creates fantasy football championships.

Loss in Seattle.
Loss in Foxborough.

Oakland had a closer margin of victory in seattle than we had in NE....

dandaman23
11-02-2014, 05:34 PM
hopefully not serious for irving

Looks like an ACL.

BroncoSynapses
11-02-2014, 05:34 PM
This team's problem remains a lack of toughness - both mental and physical toughness. The offense relies on finesse and timing; it's unable to adjust when schemes are disrupted. The offensive line is still weak at the OT opposite Clady, there's still a questionable running game, and the WRs still refuse to fight through contact.

The defense can't make big stops when it matters - consistently giving up third and very long and collapsing when the chips are down. Even with the signings of TJ Ward, DeMarcus Ware, and Aqib Talib, the defense has not gotten into the "top tier" of defenses - it's still unable to make any significant stops on third and (very) long or create any takeaways (27th in the league in INTs and 30th in fumbles).

The big blowout wins were all against teams that were seriously hampered - the 49ers missing their three starting linebackers, the Cardinals playing with a third string QB, the Chargers playing w/o Matthews and most of their starting DBs. I have yet to see a complete game from this Denver team against a fully healthy opponent, which concerns me because the season is half over and Denver doesn't look any more ready to win the Super Bowl than it did last year.

Because they aren't ready to win the Super Bowl. You don't want to get hot mid-season. But this loss could be a big deal.

Losing Nate Irving could be huge as well. Ugh.

dizzolve
11-02-2014, 05:34 PM
ACL no doubt

Bootleg
11-02-2014, 05:34 PM
Losing players late in a game that's likely already lost...

nickmeyer
11-02-2014, 05:35 PM
Can't wait for #18 and #12 to retire, never liked either of these guys, just tolerate #18 because he is a Bronco. Looking foward to the day when I never have to see either of them play agian.

theMileHighGuy
11-02-2014, 05:35 PM
"Brady's better" chant, haha!

dizzolve
11-02-2014, 05:35 PM
That doesn't look good at all

Hopefully just meniscus

VADER72
11-02-2014, 05:35 PM
This team still lacks the killer instinct against good teams. Against good teams we play so conservative.

broncolee
11-02-2014, 05:35 PM
Nobody can say they're surprised by the loss. This is the new norm for the Broncos vs the Patriots, not necessarily a beat down, but losing. It's going to happen more often than not as long as Belichek and Brady are there. If only we could bring Shanahan back just for these games.

Bootleg
11-02-2014, 05:36 PM
I don't understand how the run D can play so well, but the 3rd down pass D can play so badly

BroncoSynapses
11-02-2014, 05:36 PM
Until we can win in tough environments on the road, we will be nothing more than a team that creates fantasy football championships.

Loss in Seattle.
Loss in Foxborough.

Oakland had a closer margin of victory in seattle than we had in NE....

Yup, if we have to go on the road in the post-season, I don't see how this team advances. But oh well. They're usually fun to watch. They win more games than they lose. So that is good. It's probably unrealistic to expect a Super Bowl win anytime soon.

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 05:36 PM
Those of you throwing ropes over tree branches should remember that this is by far the Broncos worst game of the year in all phases of the game, and it just so happens it's coming in New England. This result is not indicative of anything. The Pat were the better team TODAY. They are not the better team overall. IF they make it to the AFCCG, they'll be coming to Denver for it.

We got a big important division win last week and have come out flat. It sucks but it happens. This is their Super Bowl. This is a defining game for them. And had our team actually been awake during the second quarter, this score would look a LOT different.

Take a breath.

snewguy
11-02-2014, 05:36 PM
this is a precursor to a playoff game on the road... Luck will also chew us up in the Dome... and their pass rush is better than the Pats at home... I suspect so can Flacco and that Ravens D... our boys better take note and learn from this beating...we get intimidated and scared too easily by physical play...

JJBroncoFan
11-02-2014, 05:37 PM
It's easy to complain about the refs, but at the end of the day Denver got punched in the mouth, and didn't hit back. The Pats were much more physical, and executed. At the end of the days this team still doesn't have that punch you in the mouth mentality. If Peyton is off, the team is off. The Pats exploited our weaknesses, and hats off to them.

No team with Peyton Manning on it will have that mentality. It's a package deal, he runs a finesse scheme and it becomes the teams identity.

ItsTimeTB
11-02-2014, 05:37 PM
"Brady's better" chant, haha!

Brady was playing against the better D tonight. He is better.

gmjones2001
11-02-2014, 05:37 PM
This team's problem remains a lack of toughness - both mental and physical toughness. The offense relies on finesse and timing; it's unable to adjust when schemes are disrupted. The offensive line is still weak at the OT opposite Clady, there's still a questionable running game, and the WRs still refuse to fight through contact.

The defense can't make big stops when it matters - consistently giving up third and very long and collapsing when the chips are down. Even with the signings of TJ Ward, DeMarcus Ware, and Aqib Talib, the defense has not gotten into the "top tier" of defenses - it's still unable to make any significant stops on third and (very) long or create any takeaways (27th in the league in INTs and 30th in fumbles).

The big blowout wins were all against teams that were seriously hampered - the 49ers missing their three starting linebackers, the Cardinals playing with a third string QB, the Chargers playing w/o Matthews and most of their starting DBs. I have yet to see a complete game from this Denver team against a fully healthy opponent, which concerns me because the season is half over and Denver doesn't look any more ready to win the Super Bowl than it did last year.

Yep, I think you about covered it.

LASERLIPS
11-02-2014, 05:37 PM
Belicheck is a moron.

gaberox
11-02-2014, 05:38 PM
A regular season loss in NE isn't the end of the world. Same as last year well see them again.

Nuts4koi
11-02-2014, 05:38 PM
Nice try Belicheat.

bronco30
11-02-2014, 05:38 PM
This team still lacks the killer instinct against good teams. Against good teams we play so conservative.

wasn't conservative play we just got whooped in every phase possible...tons of mistakes

gmjones2001
11-02-2014, 05:38 PM
Until we can win in tough environments on the road, we will be nothing more than a team that creates fantasy football championships.

Loss in Seattle.
Loss in Foxborough.

Oakland had a closer margin of victory in seattle than we had in NE....

Well said.

10 char/

VADER72
11-02-2014, 05:38 PM
What a bunch of ......

odiesback
11-02-2014, 05:38 PM
What a ridiculous scheme at this point in the game

Bootleg
11-02-2014, 05:38 PM
Brady was playing against the better D tonight. He is better.

I also thought the punt Brady returned for a TD was a pretty nice play too :laugh:

bronco30
11-02-2014, 05:39 PM
A regular season loss in NE isn't the end of the world. Same as last year well see them again.

yah but w/ gronk there a lot better as is their defense...

the0rangecrush
11-02-2014, 05:39 PM
No team with Peyton Manning on it will have that mentality. It's a package deal, he runs a finesse scheme and it becomes the teams identity.

Could be, but the defense that was supposed to have gotten more physical was down right depressing today.

theMileHighGuy
11-02-2014, 05:40 PM
why are we still playing our starters... don't get anyone else hurt

snewguy
11-02-2014, 05:40 PM
Those of you throwing ropes over tree branches should remember that this is by far the Broncos worst game of the year in all phases of the game, and it just so happens it's coming in New England. This result is not indicative of anything. The Pat were the better team TODAY. They are not the better team overall. IF they make it to the AFCCG, they'll be coming to Denver for it.

We got a big important division win last week and have come out flat. It sucks but it happens. This is their Super Bowl. This is a defining game for them. And had our team actually been awake during the second quarter, this score would look a LOT different.

Take a breath.

sounds like excuses after the SB... this is a statement game for us.. last week was at home... this is conquering mannings demons again... the SB and likely the AFC championship will be on the road...

arapaho
11-02-2014, 05:40 PM
Another great showing by delrio's defenses and gases offense

Manning wasnt great

The online played poorly

The secondary flat out sucked
Whether by design or preformance

The entire offense was dictated to by the defense

Poor game

9erEmpire
11-02-2014, 05:40 PM
To be fair to Manning, he is going up against the greatest QB in history with Brady and I hate Brady's guts too.

Broncoyearound
11-02-2014, 05:41 PM
We left a lot on the field today. No doubt we will extract revenge next time we play them.

gaberox
11-02-2014, 05:41 PM
With any luck next time we see NE Danny Trevethan will be on the field.

Sam_Z
11-02-2014, 05:41 PM
I won't say we were beaten but I will say that we lost. For some odd reason the broncos heads just weren't in the game today. The pats were beaten by is in the playoffs so they're out for their revenge, no big deal we can't win em all although is certainly love it but all in all this is that game in the middle of the season that serves as a wake up call.

GO BRONCOS never lose faith!

Elway
11-02-2014, 05:41 PM
400 yards means nothing if you cant get homefield advantage

flosstein
11-02-2014, 05:41 PM
It's easy to complain about the refs, but at the end of the day Denver got punched in the mouth, and didn't hit back. The Pats were much more physical, and executed. At the end of the days this team still doesn't have that punch you in the mouth mentality. If Peyton is off, the team is off. The Pats exploited our weaknesses, and hats off to them.

Seems to be the easiest way to beat us. Like Miyagi said, "board no hit back". And I can only assume the we are the board! We have no back bone, no fight. If a team comes out firing on us, we run and cower. That unfortunately has and will always be PM's "mo". He's not a fighter. He's not a gunslinger. The Sheriff is a just nickname because he's not enough of a fighter to be Doc Holiday. And sadly the team takes that persona. When all is well, we rock out. But when faced with hostility..........

broncogrady
11-02-2014, 05:41 PM
this is a precursor to a playoff game on the road... Luck will also chew us up in the Dome... and their pass rush is better than the Pats at home... I suspect so can Flacco and that Ravens D... our boys better take note and learn from this beating...we get intimidated and scared too easily by physical play...

Very true. The Broncos are definitely soft.

Bootleg
11-02-2014, 05:42 PM
We left a lot on the field today. No doubt we will extract revenge next time we play them.

Unless it's in Foxboro :laugh:

JJBroncoFan
11-02-2014, 05:42 PM
Could be, but the defense that was supposed to have gotten more physical was down right depressing today.

I agree, but NE is tough at home to begin with. They don't need to be helped along with 3 and outs, turnovers and consistently short fields.

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 05:43 PM
Sanders almost defended that pass to JT for them.

taz1458
11-02-2014, 05:43 PM
Sheesh. Glad that nascar had action, because this team looks like garbage. Glad we got smacked in the mouth now though.

Nuts4koi
11-02-2014, 05:43 PM
To be fair to Manning, he is going up against the greatest QB in history with Brady and I hate Brady's guts too.

No he isn't. Nuff said.

HurricaneDovs
11-02-2014, 05:43 PM
Very true. The Broncos are definitely soft.

And I thought that was something we were supposed to have fixed in the offseason. Guess not.

Gsam
11-02-2014, 05:43 PM
what is that, about 7 incomplete passes to tamme now?

coolio2244242
11-02-2014, 05:43 PM
Don't really understand why were targeting Tamme so much instead of JT. I'd rather JT make a play than Tamme.

tonray
11-02-2014, 05:43 PM
The lack of a run game puts it all on Peyton...he made one really bad throw...and had lots of drops and uncalled PI plays. You cannot win without a run game...the defense and opposing coaches know just how to beat you then...

dandaman23
11-02-2014, 05:43 PM
Wow. No PI called again

Nuts4koi
11-02-2014, 05:44 PM
Another PI that was mysteriously missed.

bronco30
11-02-2014, 05:44 PM
only 5 catches by Julius n welker if meet again that has to change

9erEmpire
11-02-2014, 05:44 PM
No he isn't. Nuff said.

Brady and Montana are very close but I have to give Brady to edge as being the greatest QB.

BlindFandom88
11-02-2014, 05:45 PM
To be fair to Manning, he is going up against the greatest QB in history with Brady and I hate Brady's guts too.

What kind of Niner fan are you? Always say Montana... no matter what! Time for the fan base to give you the lifetime ban.

coolio2244242
11-02-2014, 05:45 PM
Does Peyton have Tamme in fantasy?

UnitedInOrange
11-02-2014, 05:46 PM
Soft team is soft.

We don't have any intensity.

bronco30
11-02-2014, 05:46 PM
that's now 3/11 on 3rd downs ouch...

Gsam
11-02-2014, 05:46 PM
Does Peyton have Tamme in fantasy?

Yes, but I don't think its fantasy football....

tonray
11-02-2014, 05:46 PM
Brady and Montana are very close but I have to give Brady to edge as being the greatest QB.

We'll forgive you as we know you are just compensating after tonight's beatdown

broncoslover115
11-02-2014, 05:46 PM
I know we all wanted to win. We lost. It happens guys. We had a bad game on the road against a team that never loses in their home. The D had a terrible time getting off the field in 3rd down and we didn't have enough drives in the 2nd half.

I still believe in the long run that we secure HFA because our schedule is more favorable than theirs.

ruksak
11-02-2014, 05:46 PM
Don't really understand why were targeting Tamme so much instead of JT. I'd rather JT make a play than Tamme.

Browner. That's why.

VADER72
11-02-2014, 05:46 PM
I do wish at times Peyton would fart around at the line. Just go sometimes.

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 05:46 PM
Cheung on Tammy is a good matchup to throw at. The refs are just letting tons of contact go.

the0rangecrush
11-02-2014, 05:46 PM
Seems to be the easiest way to beat us. Like Miyagi said, "board no hit back". And I can only assume the we are the board! We have no back bone, no fight. If a team comes out firing on us, we run and cower. That unfortunately has and will always be PM's "mo". He's not a fighter. He's not a gunslinger. The Sheriff is a just nickname because he's not enough of a fighter to be Doc Holiday. And sadly the team takes that persona. When all is well, we rock out. But when faced with hostility..........

I'm not sure how you fix that. Or if you can? The D needs someone to step up, they need an unquestioned tone setter. For all the investment we made, we still don't have that. When Manning struggles the D needs to cover his back. Hopefully, this beat down forces the D to have a mental makeover.

theMileHighGuy
11-02-2014, 05:47 PM
well we didn't get shutout by Miami http://www.thegridironpalace.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/15.gif

Elway
11-02-2014, 05:47 PM
another overthrow by Peyton....

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 05:47 PM
Damn. One foot too far.

Bootleg
11-02-2014, 05:47 PM
Had him. Overthrew it.

BlindFandom88
11-02-2014, 05:47 PM
It could have be worse, guys! We could've been at home, had our QB fumble, and hand the other team a win.

bronco30
11-02-2014, 05:48 PM
3/15 on 3rd n 4th down just pitiful..

Nuts4koi
11-02-2014, 05:48 PM
I know we all wanted to win. We lost. It happens guys. We had a bad game on the road against a team that never loses in their home. The D had a terrible time getting off the field in 3rd down and we didn't have enough drives in the 2nd half.

I still believe in the long run that we secure HFA because our schedule is more favorable than theirs.

I agree with this. In the grand scheme of things, this is just ONE game.

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 05:48 PM
Inability to run really, really hurt us tonight.

sheenabobeena
11-02-2014, 05:48 PM
To be fair to Manning, he is going up against the greatest QB in history with Brady and I hate Brady's guts too.

Manning didnt go up against Brady, he went against Patriots D.

And the greatest QB in history? No. Just no.

coolio2244242
11-02-2014, 05:49 PM
Peyton was really underwhelming today. Really bad on fourth down all game.

dandaman23
11-02-2014, 05:49 PM
Why are we calling tineouts?

Bootleg
11-02-2014, 05:49 PM
Customary mistake riddled, garbage performance in Foxboro. Haven't won there since Jake the bloody Snake was QB...

Elway
11-02-2014, 05:49 PM
The Pats still have the colts, Lions and gren bay on the schedule. have to hope they drop some of those

VADER72
11-02-2014, 05:49 PM
Why are we calling time out? More time to get our players hurt

JayJack
11-02-2014, 05:49 PM
Don't really understand why were targeting Tamme so much instead of JT. I'd rather JT make a play than Tamme.

Trying to outsmart them, instead we're outsmarting ourselves.

100%Broncoholic
11-02-2014, 05:50 PM
Well time to go to the DT jersey starting next week. Loss ends TJ jersey. Will have to wash it then hope I don't have to switch any more.

Okta
11-02-2014, 05:50 PM
Cheung on Tammy is a good matchup to throw at. The refs are just letting tons of contact go.

As they did last year. As they did in the playoffs. And most importantly as they did in the Superbowl. If they cant man up and burn them deep for this then we will be walked all over. JT is not a top-5 TE in this league. A top 5 pass catching specialist TE sure but his blocking is brutal. He can't get off jams (clearly) and can't get separation. He relies on mismatches which better not get a 10M contract.

This is no excuse. You play through this and work harder. I hate having a soft team. Wasn't that supposed to change?

HurricaneDovs
11-02-2014, 05:50 PM
Finally got a good look at that short route by the endzone to Sanders. How in the world did Browner not get called for a PI? I know this is old news, but good Lord.

DavisMVP
11-02-2014, 05:50 PM
Our Db's need to hold more

arapaho
11-02-2014, 05:50 PM
Damm manning keeps forcing it to tamme...then has him open for the 4th an one....and overthrows sanders

ruksak
11-02-2014, 05:50 PM
I agree with this. In the grand scheme of things, this is just ONE game.

Just look at how many people had this NE team in the crapper after that KC game. This is today's NFL. One week, you're the hottest team in the nation. The next, people are questioning you.

Denver will be alright. Too many missed opportunities.

SinePari
11-02-2014, 05:50 PM
For everyone who is saying "this is just one game" isn't taking into account that Denver's problems in this game are the same ones that have consistently plagued Denver - its offensive line is porous, its WRs aren't tough enough to deal with aggressive defenders, and its defense continues to be average (great when it's on, terrible when it's not - no middle ground).

EddieMac
11-02-2014, 05:51 PM
Why can't this end...... game please be over.....NOW>.

odiesback
11-02-2014, 05:51 PM
Another visit to Gillette stadium, another loss,,, we should expect that as a normal part lf life.

This team, once things don't work right from the start, is in for a horrible performance.

Brady came in laser focused, that was what made the difference. We start sloppy, will play catch up for the whole
night.

DavisMVP
11-02-2014, 05:51 PM
We can run, we just don't

Gsam
11-02-2014, 05:51 PM
Good for you Malik. Way to get in Gronks face after he slammed harris.

Broncoyearound
11-02-2014, 05:52 PM
Why the heck are we calling timeouts. You think we were down by 3 or something.

Okta
11-02-2014, 05:52 PM
I agree with this. In the grand scheme of things, this is just ONE game.

So come playoff time or even Superbowl time you think our coaches will magically be prepared? I think we need to hope we go on a lucky streak because this coaching staff seems to like to lose its focus every 4-5 games.

bronco30
11-02-2014, 05:52 PM
imo we gotta win next 3 b4 KC n lose only 1 more to get a chance at HF..

ruksak
11-02-2014, 05:52 PM
For everyone who is saying "this is just one game" isn't taking into account that Denver's problems in this game are the same ones that have consistently plagued Denver - its offensive line is porous, its WRs aren't tough enough to deal with aggressive defenders, and its defense continues to be average (great when it's on, terrible when it's not - no middle ground).

You just described every team in the league. There isn't a team that hasn't played 1 or 2 really bad games in 2014.

BlindFandom88
11-02-2014, 05:53 PM
For everyone who is saying "this is just one game" isn't taking into account that Denver's problems in this game are the same ones that have consistently plagued Denver - its offensive line is porous, its WRs aren't tough enough to deal with aggressive defenders, and its defense continues to be average (great when it's on, terrible when it's not - no middle ground).

I agree wholeheartedly. Sorry to say, but the Seahawks never got beaten like this last year.

DavisMVP
11-02-2014, 05:53 PM
To be honest, the DB for the Pats never looked back for the ball, all kinds of contact, and we need to do the same.

Hadez
11-02-2014, 05:53 PM
Man four 5 win teams on our schedule...two on the road...does not include Cin and one of the losing teams has beaten Sea and SF lately.

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 05:54 PM
This game was lost in a single quarter. The 1st, 3rd, and 4th combined the scoring was 21-19 for the good guys. The 2nd quarter, 24-0 for the bad guys. This team came out flat, but they really only played ONE bad bad quarter. Unfortunately in Foxborough you can't afford even one.

But if people are writing off this team (at 6-2 by the way with a win against the 7-1 Cardinals) based on a game that was lost on essentially one awful quarter, that's fairly laughable.

roushmartin6
11-02-2014, 05:54 PM
For everyone who is saying "this is just one game" isn't taking into account that Denver's problems in this game are the same ones that have consistently plagued Denver - its offensive line is porous, its WRs aren't tough enough to deal with aggressive defenders, and its defense continues to be average (great when it's on, terrible when it's not - no middle ground).

Exactly, and this game could have huge playoff implications. Glad to see Fox wants to keep using timeouts in a game thats over and with Irving getting hurt

Q!!
11-02-2014, 05:54 PM
Well, that was ugly. More proof that Denver will cannot win a big game with Peyton and Fox at the helm. Should have expected this by now, but I had the orange colored glasses on all week.

LASERLIPS
11-02-2014, 05:54 PM
I love Jackson's physicality. Still playing hard.

dandaman23
11-02-2014, 05:54 PM
I hate the number 43...

Nuts4koi
11-02-2014, 05:54 PM
To be honest, the DB for the Pats never looked back for the ball, all kinds of contact, and we need to do the same.
If we do, I guarantee we will draw a PI flag every time.

Hadez
11-02-2014, 05:55 PM
To be honest, the DB for the Pats never looked back for the ball, all kinds of contact, and we need to do the same.

We have been called for a penalty on that almost every time before this game.

You are onto something tho...if the refs are letting it happen the Defensive coaches need to tell our DBs to do the same

JJBroncoFan
11-02-2014, 05:55 PM
If we don't win it all this year I hope JE realizes his mistake and let's fox go. I don't believe he is a terrible coach, but he is most definitely a terrible coach for THIS team. When he was hired it was a good fit, but we don't owe the guy anything.

I think with the right coach we can take it all. We need a hard nosed tough personality type of coach that holds his guys accountable for there mistakes. We see the same garbage week in and week out from the same guys and it's beyond aggravating.

broncoslover115
11-02-2014, 05:55 PM
I agree wholeheartedly. Sorry to say, but the Seahawks never got beaten like this last year.

Well the Pats got beaten like this this year. Can you say KC?

armedequation
11-02-2014, 05:55 PM
yep i look at as id rather lose this game than playoff game

just dont let one game turn into a trend week in and week out

roushmartin6
11-02-2014, 05:55 PM
I'm also sick of Gase going away from Julius. The guy is matchup nightmare, yet we have him blocking and Tamme running routes. JDR's zones are beyond garbage, specials teams has been a joke. The whole team teeters on the verge of complete implosion every week

BlindFandom88
11-02-2014, 05:55 PM
Okay, to the people who are saying, "It's just one game." When are we ever going to have that killer instinct and stop playing soft???

Hadez
11-02-2014, 05:56 PM
Good for you Malik. Way to get in Gronks face after he slammed harris.

yea that's my boy this year

Elway
11-02-2014, 05:56 PM
anyone who thinks this game is an example of our issues is wrong. We played a good team, in a hostile stadium, in bad weather who has a hall of fame QB. As we usually do in NE we press, over think the game, commit dumb penalties and shoot ourselves in the foot. That is what we did today. You wont see a game like this the rest of the year. Oline played there worse game. Manning had 2 ints, one on him and one on Welkers tip up.

Our second half schedule is more favorable than NE. We just have to do what we are supposed to and win the rest, but don't get cocky doing it, there are still some good teams out there and Miami is coming on strong.

roushmartin6
11-02-2014, 05:56 PM
We use all the timeouts to run the ball, makes sense

100%Broncoholic
11-02-2014, 05:56 PM
Why have the starters out there???? Send Oz in and wake up saying there's no place like home.

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 05:56 PM
For those who say this team can't win in big games, was the AFCCG not a big game? Does anyone actually believe this game is BIGGER than the AFCCG (which we won) was?

UnitedInOrange
11-02-2014, 05:57 PM
The moment is always too big for Denver. We can win the games that we're supposed to, but never the truly daunting ones.

Hopefully the homer and kool aid crowd that frequents these boards will look at the Broncos with a critical eye now. It's a soft team that lacks fire or championship mentality.

We were unprepared and unfocused, just as I suspected we'd be. "But Fox will have his team ready"...shut up.

Q!!
11-02-2014, 05:57 PM
Well, that was ugly. More proof that Denver will cannot win a big game with Peyton and Fox at the helm. Should have expected this by now, but I had the orange colored glasses on all week. Maybe Oz will the answer? Maybe he won't fold under pressure?

bronco30
11-02-2014, 05:57 PM
hopefully bounce back vs the faiders...pretty pitiful today

Broncoyearound
11-02-2014, 05:57 PM
NE got the win today hats off to them. I just hope the guys remember this whooping they got all the way back home.

BlindFandom88
11-02-2014, 05:57 PM
Well the Pats got beaten like this this year. Can you say KC?

The Pats have a HOF coach, we do not...

dbjeff
11-02-2014, 05:57 PM
Use all our timeouts just to pad C.J. Anderson's stats. Good job, Fox. I'm sure there was a good reason for that.

Elway
11-02-2014, 05:58 PM
I think Oakland is going to be in for a thumping.... Manning after a loss.... will have something to prove.

EddieMac
11-02-2014, 05:58 PM
OK bad game.,,.... lousy bad game.....

See you all later.

UnitedInOrange
11-02-2014, 05:58 PM
For those who say this team can't win in big games, was the AFCCG not a big game? Does anyone actually believe this game is BIGGER than the AFCCG (which we won) was?

You mean when Gronk was gone, we had HFA, and they had a joke of a secondary?

I won't say that game was less important, but it was far more winnable. We can only beat up weak teams.

Jay Rebel
11-02-2014, 05:59 PM
Please just stop with the Manning talk....his whole career same story he is the biggest delusion in football

BlindFandom88
11-02-2014, 05:59 PM
Goodnight, Broncos Nation. Time to go put up 50 on the Pats in Madden.

Nuts4koi
11-02-2014, 05:59 PM
The Pats have a HOF CHEATER, we do not...
There, fixed it for ya.

dbjeff
11-02-2014, 05:59 PM
Well, that was ugly. More proof that Denver will cannot win a big game with Peyton and Fox at the helm. Should have expected this by now, but I had the orange colored glasses on all week. Maybe Oz will the answer? Maybe he won't fold under pressure?

So this game was bigger than the playoff wins last year? Well, you've sure convinced me!

Q!!
11-02-2014, 06:00 PM
Disappointing to say the least. Ya'll can make all the excuses you want but we are not a Super Bowl caliber team. We got beat by the better team today. And they are much better than we are in all aspects of the game. We got exposed as frauds tonight.

elway7777
11-02-2014, 06:01 PM
Our coaching is weak. The team lacks discipline and that is directly attributed to coaching.

BlindFandom88
11-02-2014, 06:01 PM
There, fixed it for ya.

So? He'll still be in the HOF...

Nuts4koi
11-02-2014, 06:01 PM
Disappointing to say the least. Ya'll can make all the excuses you want but we are not a Super Bowl caliber team. We got beat by the better team today. And they are much better than we are in all aspects of the game. We got exposed as frauds tonight.

The pastsie fans were saying the same thing after the drubbing they took from the chefs.

Jay Rebel
11-02-2014, 06:02 PM
Denver has more talent....Patriots have a better QB and Coach and discipline. Manning is a fraud

Nuts4koi
11-02-2014, 06:02 PM
So? He'll still be in the HOF...

Maybe so, but the stigma will always linger.

Blazindro
11-02-2014, 06:02 PM
Disappointing to say the least. Ya'll can make all the excuses you want but we are not a Super Bowl caliber team. We got beat by the better team today. And they are much better than we are in all aspects of the game. We got exposed as frauds tonight.

Yup just like the Chiefs exposed the Patriots and all their flaws and how they have suffered since then... Oh wait.

HurricaneDovs
11-02-2014, 06:02 PM
I just hope this does to Denver what the KC loss did to New England. I hope they come out and just starting putting their foot on people's throats.

I am getting so tired of the same mistakes over and over. I want to see turnovers. I want to see key plays. Frickin man up and play some hard nosed ball.

broncogal4ever
11-02-2014, 06:03 PM
Well...I guess one way to look at this is we were given a lesson in our weaknesses and we should (emphasis on should) handle our next few opponents well.

I love my team, but we did not execute on either side of the ball. It is what is is.

We will return and we will prevail.

Prayers to Irving....what a warrior!

bronco30
11-02-2014, 06:03 PM
we have to start being more press coverage on defense to many free releases easy catches...

Jay Rebel
11-02-2014, 06:03 PM
So? He'll still be in the HOF...

Ok what is your point?

Hadez
11-02-2014, 06:03 PM
anyone who thinks this game is an example of our issues is wrong. We played a good team, in a hostile stadium, in bad weather who has a hall of fame QB. As we usually do in NE we press, over think the game, commit dumb penalties and shoot ourselves in the foot. That is what we did today. You wont see a game like this the rest of the year. Oline played there worse game. Manning had 2 ints, one on him and one on Welkers tip up.

Our second half schedule is more favorable than NE. We just have to do what we are supposed to and win the rest, but don't get cocky doing it, there are still some good teams out there and Miami is coming on strong.

We both play allot of good teams

We still got KC, SD, Cin and STl on the road

Mia and Buff at home.


NE goes at Indy, at GB at SD. They host Det, Buff and Mia.

Allot of chances for both teams to lose games

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 06:03 PM
Man I really feel bad for us. We have a 6-2 team that has gone 32-8 in the past three seasons and went to the Super Bowl last year. Yeah this team SUCKS. We just went into one of the hardest places in all of football to win and got beat by a very good team. That isn't acceptable. You can't be a great team and lose games. It's just not allowed.

This team has no hope. Why even play the rest of the games??? Might as well just concede home field and even give the division to San Diego (who hasn't lost this year I'm pretty sure). This team just doesn't have what it takes to succeed. Who loses 8 games in three years? What kind of team makes it to the Super Bowl and then loses? And don't try and tell me 50% of teams that make it to the Super Bowl lose either because we all know that isn't true!

We are just a cursed, unfortunate fan base to have to deal with this soft, heartless team. I'm switching to the Raiders. Anyone have some spikes I can borrow?

broncoslover115
11-02-2014, 06:04 PM
Bad loses happen to all teams. NE got humiliated by KC, almost lost to the Jets and the Raiders.

I do think our coaches have terrible game plans though.

But, it's nearly impossible to win in Foxboro. They haven't lost a game there in years.

I believe we will still get HFA because of our schedule over theirs.

I am most disappointed in our defense not being able to get off the field on 3rd down. Pitiful really! We needed to play with more aggression and didn't. I don't understand JDRs scheme sometimes and Gase's situational football is head scratching.

JJBroncoFan
11-02-2014, 06:04 PM
Disappointing to say the least. Ya'll can make all the excuses you want but we are not a Super Bowl caliber team. We got beat by the better team today. And they are much better than we are in all aspects of the game. We got exposed as frauds tonight.

This seems a tad bit overboard, we're still a good team. We just have a hard time getting out of our own way. Fox is a very poor fit for this team, he needs to change or hit the road. Elway screwed us with that decision.

Hadez
11-02-2014, 06:05 PM
Denver has more talent....Patriots have a better QB and Coach and discipline. Manning is a fraud

Brady has McD sitting down with him all game going over ways to make the offense better

I do not see anyone helping PM midgame.

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 06:05 PM
To those saying this is not a Super Bowl calibre team, can you list off some of the teams you think ARE Super Bowl calibre teams this year if the Broncos aren't? I'd love to hear.

AzogtheDefiler
11-02-2014, 06:06 PM
To those saying this is not a Super Bowl calibre team, can you list off some of the teams you think ARE Super Bowl calibre teams this year if the Broncos aren't? I'd love to hear.

NE, Ravens, AZ

broncolee
11-02-2014, 06:08 PM
I don't think the Broncos can win the Super Bowl, but at least they are better than they were before Manning arrived in Denver.

gmjones2001
11-02-2014, 06:08 PM
anyone who thinks this game is an example of our issues is wrong. We played a good team, in a hostile stadium, in bad weather who has a hall of fame QB. As we usually do in NE we press, over think the game, commit dumb penalties and shoot ourselves in the foot. That is what we did today. You wont see a game like this the rest of the year. Oline played there worse game. Manning had 2 ints, one on him and one on Welkers tip up.

Our second half schedule is more favorable than NE. We just have to do what we are supposed to and win the rest, but don't get cocky doing it, there are still some good teams out there and Miami is coming on strong.

LOL, but wait. What happens in the playoffs? If we're on the road, or GOD forbid, the Super Bowl again? Then this IS in fact an example of our issues. You are SO wrong here it is astounding. I won't give up because of ONE loss, but the way we lost is indicative of our problems. To simply dismiss it as ONE anomaly/road loss/fluke is EXACTLY what our coaches/VP are going to do and it will BITE us in the ass AGAIN... Wake up. Grow up... TOUGHEN UP! This team NEEDS an UN-SOFTENING in the worst possible way and anybody who denies that is not intelligent enough to have a conversation with.

Nuts4koi
11-02-2014, 06:08 PM
NE, Ravens, AZ

The only one that MIGHT be close is NE. Ravens haven't shown much and AZ has been inconsistent.

tonray
11-02-2014, 06:09 PM
Brady has McD sitting down with him all game going over ways to make the offense better

I do not see anyone helping PM midgame.

He sit right next to Gase all game with the playbook...come on man....

Q!!
11-02-2014, 06:10 PM
This seems a tad bit overboard, we're still a good team. We just have a hard time getting out of our own way. Fox is a very poor fit for this team, he needs to change or hit the road. Elway screwed us with that decision.


Maybe true, however with Fox we don't have a chance to win the big game. And I don't know what it is with manning but he is not performing on a consistent basis. Argue all you want but he just looks old. We need a QB change and a head coach change.

SinePari
11-02-2014, 06:10 PM
This game was lost in a single quarter. The 1st, 3rd, and 4th combined the scoring was 21-19 for the good guys. The 2nd quarter, 24-0 for the bad guys. This team came out flat, but they really only played ONE bad bad quarter. Unfortunately in Foxborough you can't afford even one.

But if people are writing off this team (at 6-2 by the way with a win against the 7-1 Cardinals) based on a game that was lost on essentially one awful quarter, that's fairly laughable.

That's a completely inappropriate comparison. Denver beat Arizona when the Cardinals had to play their third-string, never-played-an-NFL-game-in-his-life, QB. Oh, and Arizona was missing two of its best defenders in Peterson and Campbell.

Q!!
11-02-2014, 06:11 PM
And I think we get beat twice by KC. We MIGHT be looking at a wild card.

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 06:11 PM
NE, Ravens, AZ

NE who got blown out by Kansas City worse than we just got blown out by them, barely handled the Raiders, barely handled Minnesota, barely handled the Jets, and lost to Miami?

Arizona who the Broncos already handled without problem?

Baltimore who is 5-3 and has looked incredibly streaky?

Hey listen you may be right, but how on earth you could say these teams are Super Bowl quality and the Broncos at 6-2 versus a slate of very good teams are not is beyond my comprehension. All of these teams are just as flawed if not more flawed than Denver.

broncomommaof3
11-02-2014, 06:12 PM
I do think our coaches have terrible game plans though.

I am most disappointed in our defense not being able to get off the field on 3rd down. Pitiful really! We needed to play with more aggression and didn't. I don't understand JDRs scheme sometimes and Gase's situational football is head scratching.

This exactly......why oh why could we not get a stop on 3rd down. Just pathetic. I don't have confidence in our coaches to put a good game plan together on a consistent basis.

gmjones2001
11-02-2014, 06:12 PM
I just hope this does to Denver what the KC loss did to New England. I hope they come out and just starting putting their foot on people's throats.

I am getting so tired of the same mistakes over and over. I want to see turnovers. I want to see key plays. Frickin man up and play some hard nosed ball.

They won't as long as the current management is in place. I think the team wants to do that ... I think even Elway would be in favor of it, but there is TOO much PROOF in games that when the time comes, the COACHING STAFF says 'Nah, let's give them a chance, be good sports and all' ... lol ... Lack of preparation only points to ONE thing folks. ONE THING.

LSIGRAD09
11-02-2014, 06:13 PM
Well, thanks for nothing Denver. Glad to see that elite D.

dbjeff
11-02-2014, 06:13 PM
NE, Ravens, AZ

You better tell the Ravens to wake up. They're in a three way tie for second in their division at 5-3 and not even in the playoffs at the moment. Would hate for a Superbowl contender to not make the playoffs.

arapaho
11-02-2014, 06:14 PM
The thing this team needs is coaching...fox is a solid coach..but hes not a fireplug i think this team needs...hes to conservative and mellow...you never see him chewing out players...between he gase and delrio they just cant seem to devise a game plan at times that has plays to take advantage of mis matches or dictate

Delrio has a butt load of talent on defense and game after game...we cannot get off the field on third an longs...unforgivable defenses
If his scheme works they good...byt as in today if it doesnt...he cant see it and rarely adjusts


We need coaching

broncogal4ever
11-02-2014, 06:14 PM
Man I really feel bad for us. We have a 6-2 team that has gone 32-8 in the past three seasons and went to the Super Bowl last year. Yeah this team SUCKS. We just went into one of the hardest places in all of football to win and got beat by a very good team. That isn't acceptable. You can't be a great team and lose games. It's just not allowed.

This team has no hope. Why even play the rest of the games??? Might as well just concede home field and even give the division to San Diego (who hasn't lost this year I'm pretty sure). This team just doesn't have what it takes to succeed. Who loses 8 games in three years? What kind of team makes it to the Super Bowl and then loses? And don't try and tell me 50% of teams that make it to the Super Bowl lose either because we all know that isn't true!

We are just a cursed, unfortunate fan base to have to deal with this soft, heartless team. I'm switching to the Raiders. Anyone have some spikes I can borrow?

Well played, well played.

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 06:14 PM
That's a completely inappropriate comparison. Denver beat Arizona when the Cardinals had to play their third-string, never-played-an-NFL-game-in-his-life, QB. Oh, and Arizona was missing two of its best defenders in Peterson and Campbell.

And Denver blew them out of the water as they should have. It's not like it was a close game.

You can add all of those injuries back into that game if you'd like and yes, the score would've been much closer, but it's not like you could say with any certainty the Broncos would lose. Denver is at least on par with Arizona if not better even with all those pieces AZ was missing back in the lineup.

broncoslover115
11-02-2014, 06:15 PM
The thing this team needs is coaching...fox is a solid coach..but hes not a fireplug i think this team needs...hes to conservative and mellow...you never see him chewing out players...between he gase and delrio they just cant seem to devise a game plan at times that has plays to take advantage of mis matches or dictate

Delrio has a butt load of talent on defense and game after game...we cannot get off the field on third an longs...unforgivable defenses
If his scheme works they good...byt as in today if it doesnt...he cant see it and rarely adjusts


We need coaching

This!

10 char

taz1458
11-02-2014, 06:17 PM
Sorry, the biggest mistake this year, was dumping Prater, for that guy that can supposedly kick 50-yarders with ease.

Vcrdenfan
11-02-2014, 06:17 PM
I don't understand why this team came out so conservative on there 1st two drives, be aggressive on your 1st two drives instead they don't get a first down until there 3rd drive should have come out aggressive from the very beginning. Pretty well wasted 2 offensive possessions.

FieldisaPat
11-02-2014, 06:18 PM
The worst thing about this loss by far is that we could've opened up a bigger lead on San Diego and KC for the division. That's it. The people looking ahead to the #1 seed and stepping out onto the ledge are thinking wayyyyy too far ahead, especially with New England's upcoming schedule.

broncoslover115
11-02-2014, 06:18 PM
I don't understand why this team came out so conservative on there 1st two drives, be aggressive on your 1st two drives instead they don't get a first down until there 3rd drive should have come out aggressive from the very beginning. Pretty well wasted 2 offensive possessions.

That is baffling isn't it? I don't get it? Coaches are killing us!

Q!!
11-02-2014, 06:21 PM
Maybe I am being over critical of the Broncos team I have loved for 40 years. However, how can anybody argue that we were exposed tonight? We got handled by a better team. We have beat good teams, but they were not full strength. They had injuries across the board. We play a good team tonight who is full strength and we get blown out. We looked terrible. Like I said, we got exposed. We are not an elite team. I love this team as much as ever, but I am also a realist.

broncogal4ever
11-02-2014, 06:23 PM
If anyone thinks we are not SB bound, then I seriously invite you to go root for another team...there's lots out there: Niners (got beat today) Raiders (who are they?) and the Chargers (who apparently got their entire team abducted by aliens and replaced by my old HS football team) who got shut out by the Dolphins. THE DOLPHINS. (BTW, Congrats, Dolphins...it's been a long time coming and I actually was happy for you today when I saw your beaming, unbelieving faces on the TV).

We did not play well. That's obvious.

We will return next week and fight again. We will prevail. We just didn't perform up to expectations today. I hope Welker and Irving will be okay, and we will regroup and go forth.

As always....Go Broncs!

Mel B.
11-02-2014, 06:24 PM
I don't understand why this team came out so conservative on there 1st two drives, be aggressive on your 1st two drives instead they don't get a first down until there 3rd drive should have come out aggressive from the very beginning. Pretty well wasted 2 offensive possessions.

Cause we're a soft team coached by a soft coach.

We play soft, conservative and timid...not the kind of ingredients that make up a Super Bowl WINNING team no matter the talent.

SinePari
11-02-2014, 06:24 PM
anyone who thinks this game is an example of our issues is wrong. We played a good team, in a hostile stadium, in bad weather who has a hall of fame QB. As we usually do in NE we press, over think the game, commit dumb penalties and shoot ourselves in the foot. That is what we did today. You wont see a game like this the rest of the year. Oline played there worse game. Manning had 2 ints, one on him and one on Welkers tip up.

Our second half schedule is more favorable than NE. We just have to do what we are supposed to and win the rest, but don't get cocky doing it, there are still some good teams out there and Miami is coming on strong.

I absolutely don't agree. Denver will have another game like this - the Broncos will get intimidated by another team, the offense will be out of sync, and the defense will be overwhelmed. The reason I say that is because it's happened so many times now. At some point, multiple "anomalous" games makes a trend.

UnitedInOrange
11-02-2014, 06:24 PM
Yeah, we'll keep winning games as long as we aren't playing an elite team away from home!

Q!!
11-02-2014, 06:30 PM
Yeah, we'll keep winning games as long as we aren't playing an elite team away from home!

Amen brother! We can beat injury riddled teams all day long, but when we come up against an elite team at full strength we curl up and suck our thumbs like babies. We have no heart.

JakeNbake
11-02-2014, 06:35 PM
"I gotta play better. The quarterback stinks, you're not going to win many games." - Manning

UnitedInOrange
11-02-2014, 06:36 PM
Time for some bold moves?

-Kicker tryouts. It's time to admit cutting Prater was a mistake and swallow the pride.

-JDR needs to give up on the "4 man" pressure thing. It's nice in theory, but our line isn't the Seattle front 4 from last year or as good as we think it is. No interior pressure, D-ware is average. We've got to incorporate blitzes.

-A-gap pressure absolutely wrecks Manning, and we've know about this. Maybe time to incorporate Juwan Howard since he's the bigger blocker or have some designed rollouts for Peyton.

-I resent the fact that Peyton threw that TD to JT on 3 and 1. Really, I do. We only had 1 3rd down conversion prior to that, and this play is exactly what the problem is. We need to convert short yardage plays versus always swinging for the fences. Work slants and drags into the gameplan please. Throw to the middle sometimes. This is all on Peyton. His offense is predictable, because he's always trying to pass for big yards.

-Work in Latimer. Bubba's not reliable, and we're clearly unwilling to throw to Welker in the middle (possibly due to concussions). We have to create another matchup problem for NE.

Q!!
11-02-2014, 06:47 PM
If anyone thinks we are not SB bound, then I seriously invite you to go root for another team...!

Ummmm, ok!! I moved to Charlotte NC a few months ago. So, I guess you have talked me into dropping the Broncos and switching to the Panthers. At least I won't be disappointed when they get blown out. I would not expect much from them as I do the Bronco's. Go Cam!!

I guess what I am saying is Denver will not go to the Super Bowl this year. Mark my words. And if you want to make a friendly wager, I'm all for it. Just let me know.

jkinder33
11-02-2014, 06:48 PM
That is baffling isn't it? I don't get it? Coaches are killing us!


they obviously wanted to establish a ground game and that didn't pan out …lol

JakeNbake
11-02-2014, 06:50 PM
Ummmm, ok!! I moved to Charlotte NC a few months ago. So, I guess you have talked me into dropping the Broncos and switching to the Panthers. At least I won't be disappointed when they get blown out. I would not expect much from them as I do the Bronco's. Go Cam!!

I guess what I am saying is Denver will not go to the Super Bowl this year. Mark my words. And if you want to make a friendly wager, I'm all for it. Just let me know.

I'll take that bet. Name the terms. Even though they're horrible odds. I still believe in my team.

jkinder33
11-02-2014, 06:50 PM
Time for some bold moves?

-Kicker tryouts. It's time to admit cutting Prater was a mistake and swallow the pride.

-JDR needs to give up on the "4 man" pressure thing. It's nice in theory, but our line isn't the Seattle front 4 from last year or as good as we think it is. No interior pressure, D-ware is average. We've got to incorporate blitzes.

-A-gap pressure absolutely wrecks Manning, and we've know about this. Maybe time to incorporate Juwan Howard since he's the bigger blocker or have some designed rollouts for Peyton.

-I resent the fact that Peyton threw that TD to JT on 3 and 1. Really, I do. We only had 1 3rd down conversion prior to that, and this play is exactly what the problem is. We need to convert short yardage plays versus always swinging for the fences. Work slants and drags into the gameplan please. Throw to the middle sometimes. This is all on Peyton. His offense is predictable, because he's always trying to pass for big yards.


Seriousl

-Work in Latimer. Bubba's not reliable, and we're clearly unwilling to throw to Welker in the middle (possibly due to concussions). We have to create another matchup problem for NE.



Seriously if i see another 3rd and long converted i might lose my mind. We have supposedly the 2 best pass rushers and brady torched us on every 3rd and long. How about some dynamic blitzing or something. unbelievable

qbronco
11-02-2014, 06:52 PM
All this doom and gloom talk is sickening. The sun will rise tomorrow and we will beat the Raiders next week. Last time I checked, we are still in first place. All you so-called fans will be scampering back on the band wagon. We had a bad game. It happens. Deal with it and move on.

TipRoast
11-02-2014, 06:54 PM
Maybe I am being over critical of the Broncos team I have loved for 40 years. However, how can anybody argue that we were exposed tonight? We got handled by a better team. We have beat good teams, but they were not full strength. They had injuries across the board. We play a good team tonight who is full strength and we get blown out. We looked terrible. Like I said, we got exposed. We are not an elite team. I love this team as much as ever, but I am also a realist.
Pats are not at full strength. Jerrod Mayo and Stevan Ridley are out for the season. And Chandler Jones is out for the next month. Down three starters, including the defensive captain (Mayo) and our best defensive lineman (Jones).

Q!!
11-02-2014, 06:55 PM
I'll take that bet. Name the terms. Even though they're horrible odds. I still believe in my team.

If the Broncos make it to the Super Bowl, you delete my account or ban my IP for a year. If they don't you delete your account for one year. That means we will not be on the forums for the 2015 season.

broncoslover115
11-02-2014, 06:57 PM
Time for some bold moves?

-Kicker tryouts. It's time to admit cutting Prater was a mistake and swallow the pride.

-JDR needs to give up on the "4 man" pressure thing. It's nice in theory, but our line isn't the Seattle front 4 from last year or as good as we think it is. No interior pressure, D-ware is average. We've got to incorporate blitzes.

-A-gap pressure absolutely wrecks Manning, and we've know about this. Maybe time to incorporate Juwan Howard since he's the bigger blocker or have some designed rollouts for Peyton.

-I resent the fact that Peyton threw that TD to JT on 3 and 1. Really, I do. We only had 1 3rd down conversion prior to that, and this play is exactly what the problem is. We need to convert short yardage plays versus always swinging for the fences. Work slants and drags into the gameplan please. Throw to the middle sometimes. This is all on Peyton. His offense is predictable, because he's always trying to pass for big yards.

-Work in Latimer. Bubba's not reliable, and we're clearly unwilling to throw to Welker in the middle (possibly due to concussions). We have to create another matchup problem for NE.

Well, don't you think throwing to JT on 3rd and 1 was more about needing to score quickly at that point as time was running down? I mean a few weeks ago people were pissed with the short yardage plays and him not throwing long balls. Now that he does, you're upset. It was time to score and score quickly. There are plenty of times where he does what you're saying. Can't win for losing here.

JakeNbake
11-02-2014, 06:57 PM
If the Broncos make it to the Super Bowl, you delete my account or ban my IP for a year. If they don't you delete your account for one year. That means we will not be on the forums for the 2015 season.

That's not even a bet you've posted 63 times in 3 years. How is that even relative.

Think of something else.

dizzolve
11-02-2014, 06:57 PM
circumstances

From the 1st snap Manning looked uptight and uncomfortable. He looked like he was runnin around like a chicken with his head cut-off. His passes either made the receivers go to the ground to catch it - or they were off target. I'm surprised we didn't stick with the run game. This was the same Broncos offense we saw in Seattle.

I'd really like to see New England have to go to Denver for a change. But as long as they have to come through Denver in the post season I don't really care.

New England came in hot - gotta hand it to Brady he was confident despite taking a few hits (although I didn't like him hitting Wolfe in the facemask after he got hit out of bounds) And Gronk was awesome like the days of old. What a great football player. He so BIG and athletic and his hands are like velcro. I was actually momentarily scared for him after he took that hit on the lower leg again.

Nate Irving .... not good man - gonna go hunt for an update.

I feel like the officiating was one-sided. A few perfectly timed calls shut down any attempt at getting a drive going. I need to rewatch the game on Rewind to know if it was bad officiating or if they Broncos really deserved those calls. Not making excuses - this is hardly the reason Denver lost - but it clearly didn't help.


The biggest blow to Denver's chance to win was getting sacked on that 4th down. Rush 3 and get a sack? ...and after a time out ...

Q!!
11-02-2014, 06:57 PM
Pats are not at full strength. Jerrod Mayo and Stevan Ridley are out for the season. And Chandler Jones is out for the next month. Down three starters, including the defensive captain (Mayo) and our best defensive lineman (Jones).
So, your saying you guys could possibly get better? Thanks, that makes me feel better.

AzogtheDefiler
11-02-2014, 06:58 PM
NE did this w/o Chandler Jones who is their 2nd best defensive player and who is slated to return in Dec.

broncoslover115
11-02-2014, 06:59 PM
Seriously if i see another 3rd and long converted i might lose my mind. We have supposedly the 2 best pass rushers and brady torched us on every 3rd and long. How about some dynamic blitzing or something. unbelievable

This, I was really upset with the D not getting off the field on 3rd down. It's a pattern that must be addressed.

Q!!
11-02-2014, 06:59 PM
That's not even a bet you've posted 63 times in 3 years. How is that even relative.

Think of something else.
If the broncos make it to the Super Bowl, I'll send you $100. I'll shoot you all my info via PM if you take the bet. If they don't you delete your account for 1 year.

Rancid
11-02-2014, 06:59 PM
I just chalked it up to a bad day. Good teams have those....we all do.

The only thing perplexing to me is why we had a bad day after 9-days to prepare? It is like failing in the Superbowl with 2-weeks to prepare all over again. Why is it the Broncos have a demonstrated history of being unprepared with extra time?

In a week, NE put together a better game plan and executed it better than the Broncos could do in 9-days.

AzogtheDefiler
11-02-2014, 07:00 PM
Q are you a Pats fan?

Rancid
11-02-2014, 07:02 PM
Sorry, the biggest mistake this year, was dumping Prater, for that guy that can supposedly kick 50-yarders with ease.

This is a great point. I am not sure what the Broncos were thinking when they waived Prater, but it is proving to be a terrible move.

JakeNbake
11-02-2014, 07:03 PM
If the broncos make it to the Super Bowl, I'll send you $100. I'll shoot you all my info via PM if you take the bet. If they don't you delete your account for 1 year.

I don't want your money. And I have a commitment because I'm a mod here. So I can't just disappear for a year. How about a signature bet or an avitar bet.

Q!!
11-02-2014, 07:04 PM
Q are you a Pats fan?

Nope been a Broncos fan all my life. I remember going to games at the old Mile High stadium with my dad and grandpa in the early 80's. Good times. I love the Bronco's. I just tell it like I see it.

AzogtheDefiler
11-02-2014, 07:05 PM
Gronk is a BEAST eh? Wow

Q!!
11-02-2014, 07:05 PM
I don't want your money. And I have a commitment because I'm a mod here. So I can't just disappear for a year. How about a signature bet or an avitar bet.

Sounds good to me. You call it.

JakeNbake
11-02-2014, 07:07 PM
Okay. If the broncos make it to the Superbowl. I'll design you a Sig to use for a year. If they don't make it you can design me one that I have to use for a year. Sound good?

AzogtheDefiler
11-02-2014, 07:07 PM
NE was super impressive. Brady and Gronk are a deadly duo

Q!!
11-02-2014, 07:10 PM
Okay. If the broncos make it to the Superbowl. I'll design you a Sig to use for a year. If they don't make it you can design me one that I have to use for a year. Sound good?
Sounds perfect. In all honestly I hope I lose. I just don't think we have the team this year and that is very disappointing.

Q!!
11-02-2014, 07:11 PM
Gronk is a BEAST eh? Wow

So is Julius Thomas. The coaching staff just didn't use him this afternoon. Bad coaching=bad games.

Rancid
11-02-2014, 07:12 PM
Sounds perfect. In all honestly I hope I lose. I just don't think we have the team this year and that is very disappointing.

I hope he designs one with a leather helmet with a zipper over the mouth that reads 'Gimp' on it. Of course, you cannot ride a Bronco without chaps.

Saddle up!

Peanut
11-02-2014, 07:35 PM
Okay. If the broncos make it to the Superbowl. I'll design you a Sig to use for a year. If they don't make it you can design me one that I have to use for a year. Sound good?


Sounds perfect. In all honestly I hope I lose. I just don't think we have the team this year and that is very disappointing.

I would add that if Jake wins, Q!! has to show up and post more than he has. Like at least once every two days.

As it is, it's a win-win for Q!!.

Elway
11-02-2014, 09:04 PM
I absolutely don't agree. Denver will have another game like this - the Broncos will get intimidated by another team, the offense will be out of sync, and the defense will be overwhelmed. The reason I say that is because it's happened so many times now. At some point, multiple "anomalous" games makes a trend.

Denver has improved on Defense, the offense is still potent, though maybe not on par with last year. We had losses last year as well, including NE, yet we made it to the Superbowl. Seattle crushed us. Seattle is not the team they were last year, the NFC is up for grabs. We let our mistakes snowball here. An early int, a missed field goal and a punt returned for a TD. That is not Denver football. We did not rattle Brady like we needed to, part of that is he gets off a fast pass. The D could not get off the field on 3rd down. We let them continue drives. We played bad against NE, we usually play bad against them. I am not saying we will win the rest of our games, I am saying we will not have a loss like this again this season. We have 8 more games to see what happens.

dbjeff
11-02-2014, 09:12 PM
NE, Ravens, AZ

If the Broncos aren't SB contenders, I guess you can cross Baltimore off the list now.

ManningTheGOAT
11-02-2014, 10:03 PM
So is Julius Thomas. The coaching staff just didn't use him this afternoon. Bad coaching=bad games.

LOL Julius Thomas isn't in the same stratosphere as Gronkowski.

AdamSchefter
11-02-2014, 10:13 PM
Ok i havent posted here in a while, but i have to say the pats didn't out play us by much definitely not by this many points. We didnt struggle moving the ball, we just didnt score with it. Just like in the superbowl, they let the patriots play physical with the dbs much like the seahawks BUT THEY CALL EVERY FOUL ON US. At one point it was 2 penalties on them vs 9 on us. They missed some big calls such as the block in the back, and holding on the oline all night. The refs set a tone early to this game that favored them, they fed off of it. In the second half the refs started calling the things that NE was doing in the first half, we were able to get down the field with ease and if it was a close game we would of kicked far more fgs (no idea if our kicker makes it). We face them again in their house, we just need to be more physical with them early. They also missed 3 intentional groundings, which i dont understand how you could miss.

fore2213
11-02-2014, 10:25 PM
anyone who thinks this game is an example of our issues is wrong. We played a good team, in a hostile stadium, in bad weather who has a hall of fame QB. As we usually do in NE we press, over think the game, commit dumb penalties and shoot ourselves in the foot. That is what we did today. You wont see a game like this the rest of the year. Oline played there worse game. Manning had 2 ints, one on him and one on Welkers tip up.

Our second half schedule is more favorable than NE. We just have to do what we are supposed to and win the rest, but don't get cocky doing it, there are still some good teams out there and Miami is coming on strong.

Im not sure I understand this mentality. This is the fourth time someone has brought up the rest of the Pats schedule. Reading this forum over the past week, the fans here were convinced the Broncos were the most dominant team in the NFL, superior in every aspect of the game except coaching. Explain to me how, if you were the cream of the crop, and you were essentially dismantled, how any of the other "less superior" teams will beat the Pats? I don't doubt its possible, but many here guarantee it and are already claiming HF come playoff time. If anything came out of today, you would think it would be humility. Any given sunday had never been truer, but brushing aside what happened today seems to be a bit silly.

fore2213
11-02-2014, 10:27 PM
Ok i havent posted here in a while, but i have to say the pats didn't out play us by much definitely not by this many points. We didnt struggle moving the ball, we just didnt score with it. Just like in the superbowl, they let the patriots play physical with the dbs much like the seahawks BUT THEY CALL EVERY FOUL ON US. At one point it was 2 penalties on them vs 9 on us. They missed some big calls such as the block in the back, and holding on the oline all night. The refs set a tone early to this game that favored them, they fed off of it. In the second half the refs started calling the things that NE was doing in the first half, we were able to get down the field with ease and if it was a close game we would of kicked far more fgs (no idea if our kicker makes it). We face them again in their house, we just need to be more physical with them early. They also missed 3 intentional groundings, which i dont understand how you could miss.

ADAM, the ref they had on call for TV said that block in the back was a good NON call because he came in from the side!!!!

AzogtheDefiler
11-03-2014, 05:42 AM
Wait? Home teams get more calls? No! Denver better hope for another balmy January

MileHighInNY
11-03-2014, 08:08 AM
Im not sure I understand this mentality. This is the fourth time someone has brought up the rest of the Pats schedule. Reading this forum over the past week, the fans here were convinced the Broncos were the most dominant team in the NFL, superior in every aspect of the game except coaching. Explain to me how, if you were the cream of the crop, and you were essentially dismantled, how any of the other "less superior" teams will beat the Pats? I don't doubt its possible, but many here guarantee it and are already claiming HF come playoff time. If anything came out of today, you would think it would be humility. Any given sunday had never been truer, but brushing aside what happened today seems to be a bit silly.

Even the best teams can have a bad game. I still believe that the Broncos were easily the "best" team in the NFL last season, but they had bad games against NE and in the Superbowl. It happens. Yesterday, the Broncos played a bad game in all phases. Offense, defense, and special teams all looked outclassed. But that doesn't mean that the Broncos are incapable of beating the Patriots--look at last year when the Patriots won in the regular season but the Broncos earned a convincing victory against NE when it counted more in the AFC Championship Game. Another example: I think we'd all agree that the Patriots are a far better football team than the Chiefs. But just a few weeks ago, the Chiefs handed those same Patriots a humiliating 41-14 loss. NE played a bad game that day, but over a 7-game series I'd bet anything that the Pats would come out on top.

Anything can happen in one game--that's one of the things that makes the NFL so exciting. But past results certainly do not guarantee future outcomes, and if (when?) our Broncos meet up with New England again, likely in the playoffs, I'm confident that we'll see a much different game than we witnessed yesterday. Denver did not play up to their usual level, so to say this loss means they're no longer a "dominant" football team is not accurate. If Denver had played their best game and still lost, then maybe you would have a point. NE is "more dominant" than KC, but the Chiefs still pulled out a win against them. In a rematch of yesterday, a lot of people would still have their money on the Broncos.

If you're looking at both teams' remaining schedules, and honestly can't see that it's far more likely that NE finishes with more losses than the Broncos, then I just don't know what to tell you (except that you're wrong).

AzogtheDefiler
11-03-2014, 10:16 AM
Even the best teams can have a bad game. I still believe that the Broncos were easily the "best" team in the NFL last season, but they had bad games against NE and in the Superbowl. It happens. Yesterday, the Broncos played a bad game in all phases. Offense, defense, and special teams all looked outclassed. But that doesn't mean that the Broncos are incapable of beating the Patriots--look at last year when the Patriots won in the regular season but the Broncos earned a convincing victory against NE when it counted more in the AFC Championship Game. Another example: I think we'd all agree that the Patriots are a far better football team than the Chiefs. But just a few weeks ago, the Chiefs handed those same Patriots a humiliating 41-14 loss. NE played a bad game that day, but over a 7-game series I'd bet anything that the Pats would come out on top.

Anything can happen in one game--that's one of the things that makes the NFL so exciting. But past results certainly do not guarantee future outcomes, and if (when?) our Broncos meet up with New England again, likely in the playoffs, I'm confident that we'll see a much different game than we witnessed yesterday. Denver did not play up to their usual level, so to say this loss means they're no longer a "dominant" football team is not accurate. If Denver had played their best game and still lost, then maybe you would have a point. NE is "more dominant" than KC, but the Chiefs still pulled out a win against them. In a rematch of yesterday, a lot of people would still have their money on the Broncos.

If you're looking at both teams' remaining schedules, and honestly can't see that it's far more likely that NE finishes with more losses than the Broncos, then I just don't know what to tell you (except that you're wrong).

Versus Denver in the playoffs - No Gronk (torn ACL and Ward tried to hit his knee again on Sunday btw).

Versus KC - Injured offensive line and Gronk was just getting his legs back.

IF NE is healthy come playoff time and by then Chandler Jones should be back as well it will be a WAR! Good Luck to both teams.

Patriots Nation
11-03-2014, 10:26 AM
Wow..some of the things I'm reading here sound like Pats fans after they got their hats handed to them in KC...Brady was washed up..Bring on the backup Garoppolo...the world is coming to an end, the sky is falling....is what they were saying here in NE
Keep something in mind that we here in New England have learned since the Parcells era. Coach Parcells said "Always remember that the regular season is nothing but seeding for "The Tournament"...the better you do in the regular season the better seed you get. It's a simple as that and the Tournament is where it all count...!!" it's only one loss...it's not the end of the world
Yesterday was a messed up day weather wise. It was blizzard like, snowstorm conditions in the morning and the sun came out right before kickoff but the wind was whipping. You could tell in warmups by the way the ball was moving, that it was gonna be a tough day all the way around. That kick you kicker banged off the upright must have moved 15 feet to the right.
Nevertheless, The Broncos are one of the Elites of the league. As we saw last year, once the regular season's over it's a brand new season. We shot ourselves in the foot after beating you guys here and we lost to Miami giving you home field advantage and the rest is history. Ya we won today, but we still have to maintain it. Football gods willing, we'll meet up in the playoffs...preferably in Foxboro from my perspective :)
As far as the game......it was playoff intensity, crowd was into it..was definitely a hostile environment. We tailgated with Bronco's fans who came out to the game and we all had a great time, they represented respectfully and well.....
Don't worry guys..if Peyton is what we all know he is, I'll be surprised if The Broncos lose more than a game 'tip the playoffs......

Good luck and Health to both teams.......

#87Birdman
11-03-2014, 10:32 AM
ADAM, the ref they had on call for TV said that block in the back was a good NON call because he came in from the side!!!!

Yeah that ref I wouldn't always agree with though... He has proven not to know the rules lol. Becuase he said a fumble should stand because the elbow wasn't down. Rules state that any part not the hands or feet that touch the ground is considered down. So therefore a forearm would count as down he completely missed that.

Now the block in the back is a meh call. I've seen it called I've seen it not called. Depends on how the ref is feeling that day. The refs were all over the place but they weren't the reason we lost. The Pats just came to play and out played and out coached us.

snewguy
11-03-2014, 02:19 PM
Wow..some of the things I'm reading here sound like Pats fans after they got their hats handed to them in KC...Brady was washed up..Bring on the backup Garoppolo...the world is coming to an end, the sky is falling....is what they were saying here in NE
Keep something in mind that we here in New England have learned since the Parcells era. Coach Parcells said "Always remember that the regular season is nothing but seeding for "The Tournament"...the better you do in the regular season the better seed you get. It's a simple as that and the Tournament is where it all count...!!" it's only one loss...it's not the end of the world



Yesterday was a messed up day weather wise. It was blizzard like, snowstorm conditions in the morning and the sun came out right before kickoff but the wind was whipping. You could tell in warmups by the way the ball was moving, that it was gonna be a tough day all the way around. That kick you kicker banged off the upright must have moved 15 feet to the right.
Nevertheless, The Broncos are one of the Elites of the league. As we saw last year, once the regular season's over it's a brand new season. We shot ourselves in the foot after beating you guys here and we lost to Miami giving you home field advantage and the rest is history. Ya we won today, but we still have to maintain it. Football gods willing, we'll meet up in the playoffs...preferably in Foxboro from my perspective :)
As far as the game......it was playoff intensity, crowd was into it..was definitely a hostile environment. We tailgated with Bronco's fans who came out to the game and we all had a great time, they represented respectfully and well.....
Don't worry guys..if Peyton is what we all know he is, I'll be surprised if The Broncos lose more than a game 'tip the playoffs......

Good luck and Health to both teams.......


we are elite at home.... on the road, ust a good team... i expected and arizona over dallas, come into a hostile road stadium and show who is best... instead, demons that couldn't be conquered and an ars whippin after 10 days of prep and healing... 400 yards passing meant nothing, they were up 3 scores in a prevent D...