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ReleaseTheBeast7
01-27-2005, 05:14 PM
Round 1: Justin Tuck, DE, Notre Dame
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/de/justintuck.html
Round 2: Vincent Jackson, WR, Northern Colorado
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/wr/vincentjackson.html
Round 4: Oshiomogho Atogwe, S, Standford
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/s/oshiomoghoatogwe.html
Round 5: Michael Roos, OT, Eastern Washington
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/ot/michaelroos.html
Round 6: Cole Farden, P, Oklahoma St.
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/p/colefarden.html
Round 7: Darrent Williams, CB, Oklahoma St.
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/cb/darrentwilliams.html

Dream
01-27-2005, 05:19 PM
Round 1: Justin Tuck, DE, Notre Dame
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/de/justintuck.html
Round 2: Vincent Jackson, WR, Northern Colorado
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/wr/vincentjackson.html
Round 4: Oshiomogho Atogwe, S, Standford
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/s/oshiomoghoatogwe.html
Round 5: Michael Roos, OT, Eastern Washington
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/ot/michaelroos.html
Round 6: Cole Farden, P, Oklahoma St.
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/p/colefarden.html
Round 7: Darrent Williams, CB, Oklahoma St.
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/cb/darrentwilliams.html

Tuck isn't a first rounder; he's a second rounder easily.

Vincent Jackson is a interesting prospect and will either be a big gain or a big bust for whoever drafts him. He falls to the third round easily; no way does he deserve a top 50-60 pick, especially with us picking late in the second round.

I like the Atogwe pick, if you check my thread, I have us taking a safety in the fifth round, this draft is loaded with secondary players.

The Roos pick is okay, I'd rather take a guard.

We signed this new punter the other day, I don't think we'll ever draft a punter.

Like Williams in the seventh round, if he's there.

EddyMac87
01-27-2005, 05:24 PM
Round 1: Justin Tuck, DE, Notre Dame
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/de/justintuck.html
Round 2: Vincent Jackson, WR, Northern Colorado
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/wr/vincentjackson.html
Round 4: Oshiomogho Atogwe, S, Standford
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/s/oshiomoghoatogwe.html
Round 5: Michael Roos, OT, Eastern Washington
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/ot/michaelroos.html
Round 6: Cole Farden, P, Oklahoma St.
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/p/colefarden.html
Round 7: Darrent Williams, CB, Oklahoma St.
Bio:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/cb/darrentwilliams.html
No way Tuck goes in the first round....

i think OL, or safty is a bigger need then WR right now for the second round

ReleaseTheBeast7
01-27-2005, 05:25 PM
Tuck isn't a first rounder; he's a second rounder easily.

Vincent Jackson is a interesting prospect and will either be a big gain or a big bust for whoever drafts him. He falls to the third round easily; no way does he deserve a top 50-60 pick, especially with us picking late in the second round.

I like the Atogwe pick, if you check my thread, I have us taking a safety in the fifth round, this draft is loaded with secondary players.

The Roos pick is okay, I'd rather take a guard.

We signed this new punter the other day, I don't think we'll ever draft a punter.

Like Williams in the seventh round, if he's there.

I believe Tuck is a first rounder, he may turn out to be the best DE of the draft.

Jacksons stock is rising, and fast. If you don't choose him in the second, you ain't gonna get him.

EddyMac87
01-27-2005, 05:26 PM
I believe Tuck is a first rounder, he may turn out to be the best DE of the draft.
why do you think that...and what DE's do you have going in front of him?

ReleaseTheBeast7
01-27-2005, 05:29 PM
No way Tuck goes in the first round....

i think OL, or safty is a bigger need then WR right now for the second round

Welcome back:cheers:

Tuck has the most potential out of all the DEs this year.

We need a WR, when Rod retires, we won't have anyone. Watts isn't start material because he is too light, and Lelie is only a deep ball threat. We need Vincent Jackson.

Dream
01-27-2005, 05:30 PM
I believe Tuck is a first rounder, he may turn out to be the best DE of the draft.

Jacksons stock is rising, and fast. If you don't choose him in the second, you ain't gonna get him.

My website crew and I have been able to interview a lot of people, even players coming out for the draft this year; I'll give you the URL when it's ready -- that'll be a month or so. We've contacted agents of players coming out and coaches from several universities, we asked about Jackson and his stock isn't rising into the second round.

I highly doubt he goes there; he lacks a lot of experience against tough teams.

Yeah, Tuck might be the best end coming out when it's all said and done but I believe that there are three ends that will end up going before him on Draft Day.

ReleaseTheBeast7
01-27-2005, 05:30 PM
why do you think that...and what DE's do you have going in front of him?

Erasmus James
David Pollack
and possibly Marcus Spears.

ReleaseTheBeast7
01-27-2005, 05:31 PM
My website crew and I have been able to interview a lot of people, even players coming out for the draft this year; I'll give you the URL when it's ready -- that'll be a month or so. We've contacted agents of players coming out and coaches from the University, we asked about Jackson and his stock isn't rising into the second round.

I highly doubt he goes there.

Yeah, Tuck might be the best end coming out when it's all said and done but I believe that there are three ends that will end up going before him on Draft Day.

I would want to make sure, Jackson will be a star, and i'd love to see him as a Bronco.

Dream
01-27-2005, 05:34 PM
I would want to make sure, Jackson will be a star, and i'd love to see him as a Bronco.

As would I, I think he has an extreme amount of potential but he's not second round material, I'd be you anything he slips into the 3rd to 4th round, possibly even the fifth.

EddyMac87
01-27-2005, 05:42 PM
Welcome back:cheers:

Tuck has the most potential out of all the DEs this year.

We need a WR, when Rod retires, we won't have anyone. Watts isn't start material because he is too light, and Lelie is only a deep ball threat. We need Vincent Jackson.i do agree with you that watts probably wont be a starter, but rod has 2 maybe 3 years left....i would like for us to pick up J. J moses in the FA, i dont like this years WR draft....

Justin Tuck could be a great steal, but certainly not the best DE prospect...he is a great pass rusher which we need, but i see him playing a little more OLB in the pros, which we dont need...and a great fit in the 3-4, which we dont run..

my DE rankings go as followed...
1. Erasmus James...will be gone before our pick
2. David Pollack....some think hes too small but Dwight Freeney..(the best pass rusher in the NFL) is just 7 pounds heavier then pollack...pollack is the best pure pass rusher in the draft...
3. Dan Cody...a great pass rusher also but i think david pollack will be more likely to be on the board at our pick
4. Marcus Spears..the biggest DE in the draft...
5. Matt Roth..a lot of people have him slipping in the first round with good reason, but i hope one of the top 4 are still available so we dont take him...
6. Then i see Tuck being here in the 6th slot...an early to mid second round pick...(possible lions 2nd rounder)

Dream
01-27-2005, 05:43 PM
i do agree with you that watts probably wont be a starter, but rod has 2 maybe 3 years left....i would like for us to pick up J. J moses in the FA, i dont like this years WR draft....

First off, if Rod plays 2-3 more years -- he'd be 37 to 38 years old, I really doubt it.

And this WR class doesn't have that many big stars, but it has a lot of depth.

EddyMac87
01-27-2005, 05:46 PM
And this WR class doesn't have that many big stars, but it has a lot of depth.which is why i can see us taking a quality reciever in the third-4th round if we cant pick up a FA...

how old is rod? i thought he was about 33-34...

Dream
01-27-2005, 05:57 PM
which is why i can see us taking a quality reciever in the third-4th round if we cant pick up a FA...

how old is rod? i thought he was about 33-34...

He was born in 70 so I'm guessing 35.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
01-27-2005, 06:35 PM
Just so you know...Marcus Spears and Matt Roth have lit up the senior bowl practices all week and are now "locks" to go in the top 20. Dan Cody is the first DE thats going to be taken, and Shaun Cody has improved his draft value into the middle of round 1 this week as well.

Oh, and Erasmus James has the most "potential" at DE in this draft, if he has no injury concerns, he's a top 5 pick with insane pass rushing skills and speed. As it is, the concerns are very legit, and he will probably drop to the 20th selection range, but gone before us. The combine is going to determine alot for him.


DEs as of now.

1) Dan Cody
2) Matt Roth
3) Marcus Spears
4) Erasmus James
5) Shawn Merrimen (3-4)
6) Shaun Cody
7) David Pollack
8) Demarcus Ware
9) Justin Tuck (3-4)

EddyMac87
01-27-2005, 06:51 PM
Just so you know...Marcus Spears and Matt Roth have lit up the senior bowl practices all week and are now "locks" to go in the top 20. Dan Cody is the first DE thats going to be taken, and Shaun Cody has improved his draft value into the middle of round 1 this week as well.

Oh, and Erasmus James has the most "potential" at DE in this draft, if he has no injury concerns, he's a top 5 pick with insane pass rushing skills and speed. As it is, the concerns are very legit, and he will probably drop to the 20th selection range, but gone before us. The combine is going to determine alot for him.


DEs as of now.

1) Dan Cody
2) Matt Roth
3) Marcus Spears
4) Erasmus James
5) Shawn Merrimen (3-4)
6) Shaun Cody
7) David Pollack
8) Demarcus Ware
9) Justin Tuck (3-4)
i wouldnt say that roth is a lock at top 20, i wouldnt even call him a lock in the first round...you have david pollack a little lower then most people do...any particular reason..? and im pretty sure Shaun Cody is a DT, not DE

Mat'hir Uth Gan
01-27-2005, 07:02 PM
i wouldnt say that roth is a lock at top 20, i wouldnt even call him a lock in the first round...you have david pollack a little lower then most people do...any particular reason..? and im pretty sure Shaun Cody is a DT, not DE

You have to be caught up with the events from the Senior Bowl practices this week. I gave some of the updates in another thread. Matt Roth was the best player on either team in the opinion of scouts and personnel evaluators all week long.

Pollack is slipping due to his size. That's not old news. And Shaun Cody projects to a DE in the pros.

But as to Roth, not only is he a lock in the first round, he's now likely a top 15 pick, if not top 10.

EddyMac87
01-27-2005, 07:13 PM
You have to be caught up with the events from the Senior Bowl practices this week. I gave some of the updates in another thread. Matt Roth was the best player on either team in the opinion of scouts and personnel evaluators all week long.

Pollack is slipping due to his size. That's not old news. And Shaun Cody projects to a DE in the pros.

But as to Roth, not only is he a lock in the first round, he's now likely a top 15 pick, if not top 10.
Roth is a whole 9 pounds heavier then pollack... roth having a few good practices, should move him from early second round to top 15... i really dont see roth being takin ahead of pollack, james, spears or cody...

Mat'hir Uth Gan
01-27-2005, 07:16 PM
Roth is a whole 9 pounds heavier then pollack... roth having a few good practices, should move him from early second round to top 15... i really dont see roth being takin ahead of pollack, james, spears or cody...

We shall see. It wasn't a few good practices though, it was complete domination apparently. Jaw dropping domination. If you have ESPN Insider, or Sports Illustrated's inside scoop, go check it out.

BlueDevilsDB
01-27-2005, 07:51 PM
Welcome back:cheers:

Tuck has the most potential out of all the DEs this year.

We need a WR, when Rod retires, we won't have anyone. Watts isn't start material because he is too light, and Lelie is only a deep ball threat. We need Vincent Jackson.
Jackson isn't worth a 2nd round pick. He has not played at high competition level. The reason people are interested in him is because he has the same athletic abilities as Antonio Gates (both played basketball as well as football.) I think we could get Jackson 3rd round or 4th (assuming we can get picks). I saw some highlights of Jackson a few months ago, and he looks promising in some aspects, but I think it is too high a risk to get him 2nd round to take over at #1 eventually.
Watts is too light to start? Have you heard of a guy called Marvin Harrison? IDK, some people think he is good. Watts reminds me of Lelie in his first year, all the athletic ability.....just drops some easier passes.
If we get a reciever 2nd round it should be Josh Davis from Marshall. He already broke Watts' school records. I've watched him play a lot the past few years....he could turn into a great receiver.

ScottyB
01-27-2005, 08:03 PM
If this is true then you have what 7 DE going in the first round? If this dose happen...... there will be alot of talent dropping..... Personally I believe there is to much talent at other positions in the draft to see this many DE go in the first.

Dream
01-27-2005, 08:59 PM
Just so you know...Marcus Spears and Matt Roth have lit up the senior bowl practices all week and are now "locks" to go in the top 20. Dan Cody is the first DE thats going to be taken, and Shaun Cody has improved his draft value into the middle of round 1 this week as well.

Oh, and Erasmus James has the most "potential" at DE in this draft, if he has no injury concerns, he's a top 5 pick with insane pass rushing skills and speed. As it is, the concerns are very legit, and he will probably drop to the 20th selection range, but gone before us. The combine is going to determine alot for him.


DEs as of now.

1) Dan Cody
2) Matt Roth
3) Marcus Spears
4) Erasmus James
5) Shawn Merrimen (3-4)
6) Shaun Cody
7) David Pollack
8) Demarcus Ware
9) Justin Tuck (3-4)


Demarcus Ware is a 232 pound linebacker, he isn't a defensive lineman.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
01-27-2005, 09:27 PM
Demarcus Ware is a 232 pound linebacker, he isn't a defensive lineman.

Quoted from Scouts Inc posted Tuesday:

Troy DE Demarcus Ware reproted to Senior Bowl practices this week at 6'4" and 250 lbs and he certainly didn't look fat.


Quoted from the Huddle Report and Drew Boylhart posted several weeks ago:

Strengths
DeMarcus just explodes off the line when pass rushing. He has very good athletic talent. He has good change of direction skills, nice long arms to go along with excellent speed and burst to the QB. DeMarcus is a good tackler and handles the point of attack well in the college game. He is excellent in pursuit and loves to attack. He is a pure speed rusher with good all-around abilities.


Needs to Improve
DeMarcus will need to get stronger to handle the point of attack in the NFL, but he will. I have no doubts.

Bottom Line
I think by the time we get to draft day, you will be hearing more and more about this kid. He reminds me a lot of Jason Taylor; in fact, some might say that he is a clone. He might be stronger than Taylor at this point in the run game and thatís why I think this kid might be as good as they come after two or three years in the NFL. He is one of my favorite players in this draft. He has the size, strength, speed and quickness to be a perfect blind side rusher. On my personal board, he has 1st round talent and if I needed a Pass Rusher that can play in a 4/3 defense on every down, this kid would do it for me. Watch this kid shoot up the boards the closer we get to the draft. It should be very interesting.



Posted today via Mel Kiper Jr on ESPN's Insider:

DE Demarcus Ware from Troy has shot up the draft list this past week at the Senior Bowl practices. He is a great athlete with tremendous closing speed. Ware plays hard, too. Ware looks to go in the late first, early second.


Posted today via Scouts Inc:

The hybrid DE/OLB Demarcus Ware's play during Senior Bowl practices has not gone unnoticed. Ware has the skill set to excel in either role, as he has an explosive first step and shows great closing speed to the QB. He is also surprisingly skilled when asked to drop back in coverage. This week's showing has helped Ware considerably.


There's a lot more I could quote, but I think this is enough. 250 lb DE/ Blitzing OLB with blazing speed and long arms....We could use him at either position, and it just makes sense to me. Pass rush is the name of the game, and this guy can bring it.