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BlueDevilsDB
02-15-2005, 05:17 PM
49ers: They do the right thing, and stop exposing Tim Rattay to the world of football. Arron Rodgers, congrats, you're the first pick.

Dolphins: I know a lot of people have them taking "Ricky Junior". I would aprroach this a different way. With Shaun Alexander, Edgerrin James (who has said he may be interested in Miami), LaMont Jordan, and a few other decent FAs, along with trading possiblilites, I don't see the need to blow the 2nd overall pick on a runningback. Jay Feidler isn't anything but a barely mediocre backup, and AJ Feely couldn't even beat out Koy Detmer for the 2nd string at Philly. Miami has decent recievers in Boston, Booker, and McMicheal. They pick Alex Smith.

Cleveland. I kinda put this team in a pickle. They have no QB anymore. If they improved their defense and offense greatly, they could shoot for 8-8. Romeo Crennel loves his LBs, and he take the most underrated play in the draft, Derrick Johnson. He can cover, cuase TOs, and just flat-out play.

Chicago: No surprise here. I watched them play about 3 times last year, and I honestly couldn't name one of their WRs to save the NHL season. Braylon Edwards, sorry, you're a Bear.

Tampa Bay: This is a tie-up. There is so much talent they could use. I'm gonna say Benson just because he is the best RB in the draft, and could help their offense a lot, freeing up Micheal Clayton to make even more plays.

Titans: Another team that needs a lot of help. Their offense came on strong towards the end of the season, but their defense was a mess. Antrel Role could help them sort things out.

Oakland. They need a fragment of a run game. They should get Cadillac Williams or Ronnie Brown.

Arizona. Emmitt is gone, they could go to FA. If They don't, they'll get the remaining of the 2 Auburn backs. If they get a FA, a corner like Adam Jones could help.

Washington. Coles may not be there next year. Gardner is no real threat. If they had a decent offense, they may have been able to do something last year. I'll say, if they lose Coles, they'll get Mike Williams. If they don't, they'll get someone decent to block for Portis, Alex Barron.

Lions. They've used their last few years getting Harrington, Roy Williams, Roger, and Kevin Jones. Did it do anything? No. Try a TE. Heath Miller.

Rip away..... I tried to be creative and have teams draft to their needs according to scenarios.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-15-2005, 06:09 PM
49ers: They do the right thing, and stop exposing Tim Rattay to the world of football. Arron Rodgers, congrats, you're the first pick.

Dolphins: I know a lot of people have them taking "Ricky Junior". I would aprroach this a different way. With Shaun Alexander, Edgerrin James (who has said he may be interested in Miami), LaMont Jordan, and a few other decent FAs, along with trading possiblilites, I don't see the need to blow the 2nd overall pick on a runningback. Jay Feidler isn't anything but a barely mediocre backup, and AJ Feely couldn't even beat out Koy Detmer for the 2nd string at Philly. Miami has decent recievers in Boston, Booker, and McMicheal. They pick Alex Smith.

Cleveland. I kinda put this team in a pickle. They have no QB anymore. If they improved their defense and offense greatly, they could shoot for 8-8. Romeo Crennel loves his LBs, and he take the most underrated play in the draft, Derrick Johnson. He can cover, cuase TOs, and just flat-out play.

Chicago: No surprise here. I watched them play about 3 times last year, and I honestly couldn't name one of their WRs to save the NHL season. Braylon Edwards, sorry, you're a Bear.

Tampa Bay: This is a tie-up. There is so much talent they could use. I'm gonna say Benson just because he is the best RB in the draft, and could help their offense a lot, freeing up Micheal Clayton to make even more plays.

Titans: Another team that needs a lot of help. Their offense came on strong towards the end of the season, but their defense was a mess. Antrel Role could help them sort things out.

Oakland. They need a fragment of a run game. They should get Cadillac Williams or Ronnie Brown.

Arizona. Emmitt is gone, they could go to FA. If They don't, they'll get the remaining of the 2 Auburn backs. If they get a FA, a corner like Adam Jones could help.

Washington. Coles may not be there next year. Gardner is no real threat. If they had a decent offense, they may have been able to do something last year. I'll say, if they lose Coles, they'll get Mike Williams. If they don't, they'll get someone decent to block for Portis, Alex Barron.

Lions. They've used their last few years getting Harrington, Roy Williams, Roger, and Kevin Jones. Did it do anything? No. Try a TE. Heath Miller.

Rip away..... I tried to be creative and have teams draft to their needs according to scenarios.


I think it's a reasonable draft prediction. I think you don't know about Tim Rattay though. The guy is actually extremely good and the 49ers will not be drafting a QB. Look up Rattay's stats and remember he had no WRs, no Rb, no OL, and no defense.

Also, the Dolphins gave up a 2nd round pick for Feeley. The new head coach Saban has verbally endorsed that Feeley will be his starter next season. And Feeley actually played well to finish the season.


Since I critiqued you, Ill give my top 10, but be forewarned, I have full blown pages of analysis done and I will post them if someone implies one of my picks do not make sense.

1. SF - WR Braylon Edwards
2. Miami - LB Derrick Johnson
3. Cleveland - QB Aaron Rodgers
4. Chicago - WR Mike Williams
5. Tampa Bay - RB Cadillac Williams
6. Tennesee Titans - CB Adam Jones
7. Oakland Raiders - RB Cedric Benson
8. Arizona Cardinals - RB Ronnie Brown
9. Green Bay (trade with Washington) - QB Alex Smith
** Green Bay has two 2nd round choices, Washington has none.
** Washington covets a WR, this is too early for Clayton, strong WR draft.
** Favre will certainly retire after next season, GB needs a QB to groom now.
10. Detroit Lions - TE Health Miller



So, at least we agree on Miller :D

JoRo
02-15-2005, 06:19 PM
I understand both ur picks, however id still like to see a link if u wouldnt mind, im weird i find this kinda stuff interesting. For some reason i think the offseason is my fav part of the season, like draft time, or right after. Simply becuz everyone is a contender and we all jus aquired new talent an such. But again

Im weird

ReleaseTheBeast7
02-15-2005, 08:41 PM
I think it's a reasonable draft prediction. I think you don't know about Tim Rattay though. The guy is actually extremely good and the 49ers will not be drafting a QB. Look up Rattay's stats and remember he had no WRs, no Rb, no OL, and no defense.

Also, the Dolphins gave up a 2nd round pick for Feeley. The new head coach Saban has verbally endorsed that Feeley will be his starter next season. And Feeley actually played well to finish the season.


Since I critiqued you, Ill give my top 10, but be forewarned, I have full blown pages of analysis done and I will post them if someone implies one of my picks do not make sense.

1. SF - WR Braylon Edwards
2. Miami - LB Derrick Johnson
3. Cleveland - QB Aaron Rodgers
4. Chicago - WR Mike Williams
5. Tampa Bay - RB Cadillac Williams
6. Tennesee Titans - CB Adam Jones
7. Oakland Raiders - RB Cedric Benson
8. Arizona Cardinals - RB Ronnie Brown
9. Green Bay (trade with Washington) - QB Alex Smith
** Green Bay has two 2nd round choices, Washington has none.
** Washington covets a WR, this is too early for Clayton, strong WR draft.
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So, at least we agree on Miller :D

I don't see the 49ers Braylon with their first pick, the Niners past 2 first picks were both WRs and they've both been busts. They will defently get a QB.

Miami doesn't need a LB, they need a RB. They will resort to Cedric Benson.

Cleveland will defently go with Alex Smith, for Aaron Rodgers will be taken by the Niners.

Chicago will go with Braylon, not Mike.

Want me to keep going?

KnightOLB53
02-15-2005, 08:48 PM
Yea the Bears see Jones as there feature back they will def go for a WR.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-15-2005, 09:56 PM
I don't see the 49ers Braylon with their first pick, the Niners past 2 first picks were both WRs and they've both been busts. They will defently get a QB.

Miami doesn't need a LB, they need a RB. They will resort to Cedric Benson.

Cleveland will defently go with Alex Smith, for Aaron Rodgers will be taken by the Niners.

Chicago will go with Braylon, not Mike.

Want me to keep going?

Want to bet? Do some research, I'll help....

1) San Francisco 49ers
- 26th Overall Offense
- 30th Rushing, 13th Passing
- 24th Overall Defense
- 20th Against Rush, 19th Against Pass

** Early Picks Last Draft**
- WR (1st), G (2nd), WR (3rd), ILB (4th), DT (4th)

NOTES
- QB Tim Rattay had an 83 rating, very solid when healthy.
- Horrible O-line play led to a poor running game and injured Rattay.
- Star RB Barlow is locked up long term, though disgruntled, wants to be in SF.
- Ongoing contract problem with LB Star Julian Peterson.
- WR corps underachieved, young talent developing though.

Current Free Agents:
WR: Wilson and Conway (2 and 3 on depth chart)
G: Both starting guards are RFA (7th round compensation)
LB: OLB Peterson will be franchised again.
S: Starting FS Heard. *Key resignee.
K: Todd Peterson, had a good year.

Salary Cap Status:
- 18mil UNDER the cap
- Not many players to resign.

Areas of Need:
WR (s), LG (s), RT (s), WR (r), DT (r), OLB (s/r), CB (r), RB (r)


Draft Analysis:
With the need for depth throughout the roster, the 49ers probably will look to trade down with a team coveting a RB, QB, CB, WR Edwards or LB Johnson. A swap of first round selections with a 2nd or 3rd tossed in should do the trick. They could then take a WR, or more likely, an O-lineman.

If forced to select a player at pick 1,WR Braylon Edwards will likely be the choice. The reasoning is the 49ers lack a dominant WR and this is a franchise that was built around such players in the past. The 49ers also have their 2nd and 3rd WRs as FA, and with little production last year, probably wonít be resigned. They basically do not have a solid WR on the entire roster, and truly only have 3 signed. Edwards is the best WR in this draft in the mold of Roy Williams from last yearís draft. The alternative options are if the new regime is completely blown away by Smith or Rodgers and for some reason down on Rattay. Derrick Johnson could also be an option in replacing Peterson and his antics. Adam Jones would not be a reach either.



2) Miami Dolphins
- 29th Overall Offense
- 31st Rushing, 30th Passing.
- 8th Overall Defense
- 31st Rushing, 2nd Passing.

**Early Picks Last Draft**
- RT (1st), CB (4th)

NOTES
- They traded this yearís 2nd round selection away for QB AJ Feeley.
- New coach/GM Nick Saban has given Feeley a vote of confidence.
- The LB play was particularly poor this past season for its expense.
- The O-line started to gel more as the season progressed.
- RBs Edgerrin James and Travis Henry desire to play for Miami.
- There is a legit chance that Miami will have zero LBs from last year on the team.

Current Free Agents:
RB: Travis Minor, largely a 3rd down specialist/reserve.
DE: Bryan Robinson, solid season as 3rd DE.
LB: Morlon Greenwood, starting OLB, 100+ tackle season.
S: Sammy Knight, starting SS, very solid season.

Salary Cap Status:
- 17mil OVER the cap
- Cutting QB Fiedler, LB Seau, and WR Boston would get Miami back under the cap.
- MLB Thomas and DE Taylor have massive cap salaries, and are aging.
- CB Surtain is likely to be traded to help with the cap.

Areas of Need:
RB (s), OLB (s/r), SS (s/r), RG (s), DE (r)


Draft Analysis:
The Dolphins have two immediate needs, RB and LB. Both could be addressed via Free Agency. Although, with their cap situation, that could make matters very tough. Most likely there will be a surprise cut, likely Taylor or Thomas. Itís possible the Dolphins will be starting an entirely new LB core next season. With so many RBs vying to play in Miami, itís entirely feasible to suspect they will trade their 3rd round selection for a cheaper back such as Droughns or Henry. That leaves LB as a massive need, and there just so happens to be one LB in this draft ready to dominate from his rookie season onwards. LB Derrick Johnson is the pick here.




And that is why Cleveland will go with Rodgers and Chicago will go with Williams.



Things you need to do...

1) Research how good Tim Rattay is when healthy. Understand they have absolutely zero WRs on their roster besides Reshaun Woods who was injured all season, not a bust.

2) Research the Dolphins' salary cap situation. Learn that they likely won't have a single starting LB on their roster. Seau is gone, Greenwood is a FA that won't be resignd. Thomas will likely be cut with Seau after June 2nd. Also, the Dolphins can get a decent back in FA, Edgerrin James has made it known he wants to be in Miami (his hometown).

Shall I continue?

ttejuco
02-15-2005, 11:03 PM
Braylon just CANT go higher than Mike Williams! That's not right.

dbdom
02-16-2005, 09:02 AM
49ers: They do the right thing, and stop exposing Tim Rattay to the world of football. Arron Rodgers, congrats, you're the first pick.

Dolphins: I know a lot of people have them taking "Ricky Junior". I would aprroach this a different way. With Shaun Alexander, Edgerrin James (who has said he may be interested in Miami), LaMont Jordan, and a few other decent FAs, along with trading possiblilites, I don't see the need to blow the 2nd overall pick on a runningback. Jay Feidler isn't anything but a barely mediocre backup, and AJ Feely couldn't even beat out Koy Detmer for the 2nd string at Philly. Miami has decent recievers in Boston, Booker, and McMicheal. They pick Alex Smith.

Cleveland. I kinda put this team in a pickle. They have no QB anymore. If they improved their defense and offense greatly, they could shoot for 8-8. Romeo Crennel loves his LBs, and he take the most underrated play in the draft, Derrick Johnson. He can cover, cuase TOs, and just flat-out play.

Chicago: No surprise here. I watched them play about 3 times last year, and I honestly couldn't name one of their WRs to save the NHL season. Braylon Edwards, sorry, you're a Bear.

Tampa Bay: This is a tie-up. There is so much talent they could use. I'm gonna say Benson just because he is the best RB in the draft, and could help their offense a lot, freeing up Micheal Clayton to make even more plays.

Titans: Another team that needs a lot of help. Their offense came on strong towards the end of the season, but their defense was a mess. Antrel Role could help them sort things out.

Oakland. They need a fragment of a run game. They should get Cadillac Williams or Ronnie Brown.

Arizona. Emmitt is gone, they could go to FA. If They don't, they'll get the remaining of the 2 Auburn backs. If they get a FA, a corner like Adam Jones could help.

Washington. Coles may not be there next year. Gardner is no real threat. If they had a decent offense, they may have been able to do something last year. I'll say, if they lose Coles, they'll get Mike Williams. If they don't, they'll get someone decent to block for Portis, Alex Barron.

Lions. They've used their last few years getting Harrington, Roy Williams, Roger, and Kevin Jones. Did it do anything? No. Try a TE. Heath Miller.

Rip away..... I tried to be creative and have teams draft to their needs according to scenarios.


interesting, but ill give you my take

1) SF - Aaron Rodgers QB i think this picks makes itself, just because he'll fit their system, strong arm, good mobility, this will help them get started on rebuilding
2) Miami - Cedric Benson RB despite what people think, miami will probably take him because they are in a bad shape cap wise, even moving some guys they wont be in great shape, so go ahead and grab ricky II, except this version is improved with no drug taking ability
3) Cleveland - Derrick Johnson LB easily the best linebacker in the draft, cleveland have so many holes, they could consider taking Alex Smith, but they are resigning kelly holcolmb and they could think about an OT since their line is decimated, but it would be a reach
4) Chicago - Braylon Edwards WR this guy can make so many big plays, has a lot of upsides, can drop the easy ball sometimes and sometimes tries to make the easy catches more spectacular, but hes got everything, and chicago will draft him, even though their last foray for a Michigan WR didnt work out
5) Tampa Bay - Cadillac Williams RB Gruden loved his kid at the senior bowl and pulled him out when he had a niggle, this seems similar to what happened with denny green and larry fitzgerald last year, gruden will get his guy, and he is a good upgrade over michael pittman
6) Titans - Antrel Rolle CB titans will have to cut so many guys just to balance the books, but getting one of the best overall players in the draft will serve them well, since samari rolle may be a cap casualty as well
7) Oakland - Adam "Pac Man" Jones CB they have a few problems like RB, but i think they will try and get someone like LaMont Jordan from the jets on a FA instead of drafting one, but WR may also be an issue if Porter walks, and if their 2 CB's Buchanon and Woodson do go as well, they have issues there, but i think they will draft pacman just because they are possibly losing 2 starters in their secondary
8) Arizona - Ronnie Brown RB Emmit Smith is gone, they only have marcel shipp who hardly played this year, they would want a good quality back to try and get their running game going, but they could also think about taking Alex Smith here
9) Washington - Mike Williams WR they need a stud DE, so erasmus james could be there but they are losing rod gardner and their offence was bad last year compared to a good D, so adding some weapons for patrick ramsey will hopefully spark their O this year
10) Detroit - Thomas Davis FS this will be a reach but he will fill their biggest hole on D, he will probably play with brock marion, he has the size of a LB, good speed, very good hitter, needs to work on his coverage though


Braylon just CANT go higher than Mike Williams! That's not right.

he will, no matter what mike williams does at the combine, i dont see braylon falling just because williams hasnt played football for a year, that always hurts the position where he will be drafted at, there is talk that he isnt in the greatest of shape either, so he will have to work hard just to show up and play up to his standard at the combine

BlueDevilsDB
02-16-2005, 06:59 PM
How about the simple fact that Mike Williams is simply a better player
than Braylon Edwards?

Surely the good scouts will not have forgotten that in one year...
Yes, but if these teams scouts were very good, they wouldn't be then 10 worst teams would they? :duh:

I agree that Mike Williams is a better play than Edwards. I just think that Edwards will be picked first because he played this year.

West
02-16-2005, 07:17 PM
1. San Fran picks Alex Smith QB Utah...Smith grasped the west coast offense full swing with less weapons...all he had was Paris Warren and all he'll have this year will be Brandon Lloyd...he will turn this team around in 2 years with his greatness of creating more with less...they will go 7-9 next year with Smith at the helm

2. Miami picks Cedric Benson RB UT yes Alexander and James are out there but they'll get tagged IMO so this is the safe option at #2...they go 8-8 next year with a great D but has a rookie RB and a rookie QB...calling it now...KYLE ORTON

3. Cleveland picks Aaron Rogers QB CAL as you know the Browns just released Garcia and thats an opening at QB...they will pick him but the stupid browns release mid way through the season hes a west coast style QB and they go to a 5-11 record

4. Chicago picks Braylon Edwards WR MICH the only reason they dont pick Mike Williams is because of Clarrett meaning he was out a year and his play will be a question mark...still many fllaws with them and they go 6-10

5. Tampa picks the car (Cadillac) RB AUB Gruden loves this kid and i think Williams will thrive in his offense...they go 9-7 with Griese at the helm

6. Titans pick David Pollack DE UGA they dont pick a CB because they have Dyson and Rolle coming back and they have a great secondary next year with rolle, dyson, thompson and williams...they go 10-6 and get the #6 seed in the playoffs behind a revapped D and a good O led by Chris Brown

7. Oakland pick Thomas Jones FS UGA they have old safeties and they need this badly...they dont go CB because fred smoot is a FA and they will likely get him with their wide open cap room...they go 7-9 with a rebuilding D and O

8. Arizona pick Ronnie Brown RB AUB they get Shipp back but his injury from last year might give him some problems...if Shipp comes back full swing lookout for a good combo of RBs...they go 11-5 next year with a good offense led by Fitz, Mccown, Brown, Shipp and their D will be highly improved

9. Washington pick Alex Barron OG FSU portis went down 1.6 ypc from the last 2 years in Denver and they need linemen to go along with Jansen who is coming off an injury and Chris Samuels...they go 7-9..synder still thinks he can put together a team of superstars and win...that only happens in baseball dan :duh:

10. Detroit pick Heath Miller Mooch will have a GREAT O led by Harrington (who i think will have a pro bowl year ie like drew brees this year with Gates) Williams (who is the best rookie to come out of the draft last year) Rogers (who is coming off injury but is a great talent...him and Roy will be the best tandem WRs in NFL next year) Jones (who played exceptional this year in his rookie year)...they go 10-6 behind that O and will win the NFC NORTH

I kept Rolle and Jones out of the top 10 simply because of fred smoot being on FA

EddyMac87
02-16-2005, 07:40 PM
7. Oakland pick Thomas Jones FS UGA
Oakland won't take a safty...especially one that dosn't exist....










i think you mean thomas davis...

West
02-16-2005, 07:53 PM
sorry about that...i get davis and jones mixed up :hurt:

EddyMac87
02-16-2005, 08:02 PM
sorry about that...i get davis and jones mixed up :hurt:
i have no problem with getting names mixed up, but why the hell would the raiders take a safty over Derrick Johnson, the best player in the draft IMO....

ReleaseTheBeast7
02-16-2005, 09:41 PM
i have no problem with getting names mixed up, but why the hell would the raiders take a safty over Derrick Johnson, the best player in the draft IMO....

Best defensive player at least... That boy can strip some balls!

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-16-2005, 09:42 PM
1. San Fran picks Alex Smith QB Utah...Smith grasped the west coast offense full swing with less weapons...all he had was Paris Warren and all he'll have this year will be Brandon Lloyd...he will turn this team around in 2 years with his greatness of creating more with less...they will go 7-9 next year with Smith at the helm

Alex Smith is a one year wonder ala Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, etc... I really doubt he goes in the top 10 selections, unless Green Bay trades up. Remember, there are more 1st round QB busts then hits. Both Rodgers and Smith are not overly impressive.

2. Miami picks Cedric Benson RB UT yes Alexander and James are out there but they'll get tagged IMO so this is the safe option at #2...they go 8-8 next year with a great D but has a rookie RB and a rookie QB...calling it now...KYLE ORTON

I guarantee you Miami will be able to trade Surtain to a team for a RB and get salary cap relief in the process. I'm calling Minnesota (Robert Smith, Onterrio Smith, Mewlede Moore) or Indy (sign and trade with James).

3. Cleveland picks Aaron Rogers QB CAL as you know the Browns just released Garcia and thats an opening at QB...they will pick him but the stupid browns release mid way through the season hes a west coast style QB and they go to a 5-11 record

I agree.

4. Chicago picks Braylon Edwards WR MICH the only reason they dont pick Mike Williams is because of Clarrett meaning he was out a year and his play will be a question mark...still many fllaws with them and they go 6-10.

I would agree, but there is no doubt in my mind, with QB Tim Rattay being very good, that SF drafts a WR and I think that will be Edwards. So, Mike Williams would be the next best choice, perhaps Troy Williamson. You'll hear alot more about Troy after the combine.

5. Tampa picks the car (Cadillac) RB AUB Gruden loves this kid and i think Williams will thrive in his offense...they go 9-7 with Griese at the helm

I agree.

6. Titans pick David Pollack DE UGA they dont pick a CB because they have Dyson and Rolle coming back and they have a great secondary next year with rolle, dyson, thompson and williams...they go 10-6 and get the #6 seed in the playoffs behind a revapped D and a good O led by Chris Brown

No. Dyson is a FA and they've already said they won't resign him. Rolle is expected to be a salary cap cut, the Titans are in the worst shape in the NFL, 26 million over the cap. Woolfork is usually injured, they have no CB on the roster besides him left. This is a CB, and Adam Jones is better then Antrel Rolle.

7. Oakland pick Thomas Jones FS UGA they have old safeties and they need this badly...they dont go CB because fred smoot is a FA and they will likely get him with their wide open cap room...they go 7-9 with a rebuilding D and O

The problem here is that Thomas Davis will not be a safety in the NFL as he has extremely poor coverage and mobility for a safety prospect. He will be an OLB similar to Boss Bailey. Oakland is also 4 million over the cap, they have no wide open cap room.

8. Arizona pick Ronnie Brown RB AUB they get Shipp back but his injury from last year might give him some problems...if Shipp comes back full swing lookout for a good combo of RBs...they go 11-5 next year with a good offense led by Fitz, Mccown, Brown, Shipp and their D will be highly improved

I agree.

9. Washington pick Alex Barron OG FSU portis went down 1.6 ypc from the last 2 years in Denver and they need linemen to go along with Jansen who is coming off an injury and Chris Samuels...they go 7-9..synder still thinks he can put together a team of superstars and win...that only happens in baseball dan :duh:

This could happen. I don't see Barron as a top 10 draft choice though, he's not a good value that high. This is a very strong 2nd round draft for O-linemen. However, its a possibility. I think they take a WR if they keep this pick, or DE Erasmus James. Washington wants to get more draft choices though, they can trade with the Eagles or Greenbay, pick up a 2nd round choice and still grab a good WR in the late first.

10. Detroit pick Heath Miller Mooch will have a GREAT O led by Harrington (who i think will have a pro bowl year ie like drew brees this year with Gates) Williams (who is the best rookie to come out of the draft last year) Rogers (who is coming off injury but is a great talent...him and Roy will be the best tandem WRs in NFL next year) Jones (who played exceptional this year in his rookie year)...they go 10-6 behind that O and will win the NFC NORTH

I agree.

I kept Rolle and Jones out of the top 10 simply because of fred smoot being on FA

Jones is going to run a 4.2 at the combine, that's unheard of. If the 49ers don't draft a WR, they will take Adam Jones #1 overall. He will go 6th at worst. Rolle is a top 15 pick, not necessarily top 10, so I agree with you there. I think Rolle goes to Dallas at 11.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-17-2005, 05:07 PM
That's a decent pre-combine mock. I mean, none of us are going to be even remotely close with the drafts we are doing atm. They do keep us entertained though. I'd argue the individual players more, but you really can't until you see what they do.

Dub-DeuceKnight
02-17-2005, 07:55 PM
how do you know Pac-Man runs a 4.2? or are you just speculating?

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-18-2005, 05:58 AM
how do you know Pac-Man runs a 4.2? or are you just speculating?

He personally promised that was what he is going to run.