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Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-25-2005, 01:03 PM
The guy that threw up some numbers today is Scott Young, an OG, from BYU. He has very long arms (34" reach) and still benched a ridiculous 43 reps of 225. That's way hard with long arms. Nobody was even remotely close to him. He's 6'3", 312 lbs.

The other really impressive OG was Evan Mathis of Alabama. 32" reach, 34 reps of 225. 6'5" 304 lbs.

David Baas is working out with the Centers. He had a solid workout. 32" reach, 29 reps. 6'4" 319lbs.

At OT, Micheal Roos dissapointed with only 19 reps and a small 32" reach.

FSU OT, Ray Willis was the best with a solid 27 reps and a monster 35.4" reach. He is 6'5" 327 lbs.

At RB, Maurice Clarett was most impressive. He showed up in great shape at 5'11", 234 lbs. He benched a solid 22 reps. He actually had a more impressive workout then Ronnie Brown did.

DPg2003
02-25-2005, 02:18 PM
I said a while back that I really like that Scott Young kid. He is big and strong with good quickness and he used to play DT, so he'll have that nastiness we need on the O-Line. He should be a mid to late round steal because he isn't real experienced at G, but I would love to see the Broncos snatch him and Chris Spencer from Ole Miss this year.

LoufromLItt.
02-25-2005, 04:08 PM
32 times for 225.. thats very good, I bench 225 like 6 times ~_~. Pwnage thread.

ttejuco
02-25-2005, 04:10 PM
Yeah me too, 5-6 times, and im only 19 and 200 pounds.

LoufromLItt.
02-25-2005, 04:12 PM
Yeah me too, 5-6 times, and im only 19 and 200 pounds.

Ya, good work... even 2 45's on each side is twice what most adults can do. I am 18 and get some notice in the gym with just 2 45's now if you put 3 45's on each side... people begin to watch. 32 reps tho jesus,

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-25-2005, 04:24 PM
not 32 reps, 43 reps. :P

West
02-25-2005, 05:25 PM
that is CRAZY and just think the NFL's strongest man(La'Roi Glover) only benched it 32 times THATS 11 LESS THAN THAT YOUNG KID DID...THAT IS CRAZY...:jawdrop:

PsychoChicken
02-25-2005, 07:38 PM
Yeah, 43 is friggin' insane. Scott Young has to have gigantic triceps. Didn't Igor Olshansky get 42 or something last year? Baseball players wouldn't be able to do that many even with steroids.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-26-2005, 01:12 PM
Running back 40 times:

Maurice Clarett ran a very dissappointing 4.7, he was expected to be in the 4.5s. That will really hurt his chances of moving into Day 1 of the draft. On the otherhand, Ronnie Brown runs a 4.3. For a 6'0", 230 lb RB with great hands, that's flatout ridiculous. He may be the top RB in the draft now.

J.J Arrington 4.49
Decori Birmingham 4.53, 4.73
Nehemiah Broughton 4.51, 4.48
Ronnie Brown 4.40, 4.32
Maurice Clarett 4.82, 4.72
Deandra Cobb 4.38
Anthony Davis 4.45
Lionel Gates 4.72
Ryan Grant 4.52
Kay-Jay Harris 4.56

Fullbacks

Kevin Dudley 4.90
Justin Green 4.77
Madison Hedgecock 4.88
Keith Joseph 4.75

West
02-26-2005, 01:45 PM
weres Cadillac and Benson?

ttejuco
02-26-2005, 02:03 PM
Yeah, 43 is friggin' insane. Scott Young has to have gigantic triceps. Didn't Igor Olshansky get 42 or something last year? Baseball players wouldn't be able to do that many even with steroids.

Yes Igor benched it 43 times as well, but he was trying out as a D-Tackle.

Dream
02-26-2005, 02:20 PM
Thanks for the information Mat'hir -- I don't have NFL Network; but when you get the numbers in for Barber III; let me know. :)

West
02-26-2005, 03:01 PM
i think the other Minnesota running back is better than Barber...that Maroney kid is a fricking stud...watch out next year..top 5 pick

Jared
02-26-2005, 03:14 PM
32 times for 225.. thats very good, I bench 225 like 6 times ~_~. Pwnage thread.


I can't even bench my weight. I probably couldn't bench half of my weight. :ugh:

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-26-2005, 04:09 PM
Thanks for the information Mat'hir -- I don't have NFL Network; but when you get the numbers in for Barber III; let me know. :)


He chose not to run.

He had 20 reps of 225. He was 5'11 and 221 lbs.

Dream
02-26-2005, 04:12 PM
He chose not to run.

He had 20 reps of 225. He was 5'11 and 221 lbs.

Not bad at all; he's pretty strong and I think that's a nice size for him to be.

I think he's added a little bulk and maybe that's why he chose not to; I'm guessing he'll be a 4.4 - 4.45 guy.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-26-2005, 05:10 PM
Although he hasn't run his 40 yet, not sure if he is going to our not. RB Darren Sproles opened some eyes with 23 reps of 225. The man is only 5'6" and 187 lbs. Pound for pound, that is ridiculous strength.


Khalif Barnes might be the top OT in this draft now.
Even with his wrist only 85% healed, he tossed up 26 reps and then went and ran a 4.9 40. This man is 6'5", 306 lbs. That's VERY impressive speed.

Jammal Brown, did not bench, but he ran a solid 5.0 40. That suprised a few folks. Brown is projected solely as a RT, so he is expected to really toss up some reps during his pro day. That speed may translate into agility meaning some team might look at him as a LT now. He is 6'5", 316 lbs.

OG Scott Young is dominating the Combine. Not only did he destroy all competition in the benchpress (43 reps), he just ran a 4.8 40. He is a 6'3", 315lbs OG prospect, who is flying up the draft board so fast, he's a blur.

His only remote competition is OG Evan Mathis, who after finishing 2nd with 34 reps on the benchpress, finishes 2nd running a very impressive 4.9 flat 40, not once, but twice. He is 6'5". 304 lbs.

Young and Mathis have GREATLY distinguished themselves as the top OG prospects at the combine. Now, some of the other top prospects haven't worked out yet, but the bar is set extremely high now.

Alot of the OC's are putting up solid numbers, it's still bunched up. This looks like a good OC draft. Like real good.

The only two guys who distinguished theirselves from the pack were Richie Incognito. He is 6'3" 305 lbs. He tossed up 29 reps and ran a 4.8 40. And Rob Hunt. He is 6'3". 301. He tossed up 31 reps and ran a 4.9 40. Both turned some heads as they were clearly the top workout warriors at the positon. Of course, Incognito severly sprained his knee shortly after doing agility drills. While not deadly serious, it does wipe out some of what he accomplished.

HORSEPOWER 56
02-26-2005, 09:05 PM
I was watching the combine special on NFL network and one guy that caught my eye was the RB from The Citadel (biggest RB- not FB, at the combine) I think he is 6', 251 lbs and ran the 40 in like 4.5 - only 1 tenth of a second higher than Ronnie Brown. The dude is absolutely stacked (no fat). His legs look like f'n tree trunks. I didn't see too much else about him because everyone is too focused on Clarett for some unknown reason (he sucks and probably won't be drafted by anyone) but this other guy, I don't remeber his name, is a HOSS! I'd give him a hard look. Does anyone know his name?

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-26-2005, 09:23 PM
I was watching the combine special on NFL network and one guy that caught my eye was the RB from The Citadel (biggest RB- not FB, at the combine) I think he is 6', 251 lbs and ran the 40 in like 4.5 - only 1 tenth of a second higher than Ronnie Brown. The dude is absolutely stacked (no fat). His legs look like f'n tree trunks. I didn't see too much else about him because everyone is too focused on Clarett for some unknown reason (he sucks and probably won't be drafted by anyone) but this other guy, I don't remeber his name, is a HOSS! I'd give him a hard look. Does anyone know his name?

You are talking about:

Nehemiah Broughton, who ran a 4.6 twice. Ronnie Brown ran a 4.3 btw his 2nd run.

Broughton - 5'11", 250lbs, did not bench.
Brown - 6'0", 232 lbs, 18 reps.


Miami had a very long meeting with Broughton.

HORSEPOWER 56
02-26-2005, 09:40 PM
Thanks Mat'hir. He looks like he might be a good one. I know the commentators were very impressed with him.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-27-2005, 06:17 PM
QBs (weight, 40 times only)

Adrian McPherson was lightning fast. 6'3", 218 lbs. 4.4 and 4.39 40s. He stole the show.


Aaron Rodgers is losing ground, he's going to have to have a good workout at his Pro Day. 6'2" 223, 17.3 % body fat (bad), 5.14 40 (slow).

Alex Smith is the top QB in this draft. 6'4", 217lbs, 14% body fat (still bad) 4.7 40 (this is decent).

Kyle Orton = 6'4" 233, 7% body fat (excellent), 4.6 40. Great workout.
Andrew Walter = 6'6", 233, 9% body fat, 4.7 40.
Charlie Frye = 6'3" 225, 15% body fat, 4.8 40.
Jason Campbell = 6'4" 230, 12% body fat. Did not run.

Jared
02-27-2005, 06:24 PM
SWEET JESUS!!! Adrian McPherson could be a good pick up in round 4 or 5...just imagine a fast QB in our style of offense :jawdrop:


Well, he had to be fast to run away from his bookies goons.

:yawn:

West
02-27-2005, 06:25 PM
everyone makes mistakes...havent heard anything else on him...so maybe he's cleaned up his act :confused:

Jared
02-27-2005, 06:28 PM
everyone makes mistakes...havent heard anything else on him...so maybe he's cleaned up his act :confused:


Well, maybe, but being accused of gambling on your own team is baaaaaaaaaaaadddddddddddddddd. That's probably a worse sin in organized sports than drugs.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-27-2005, 07:50 PM
Wide Receiver 40 times are in....

Players that opened eyes....

Troy Williamson 6'1", 203lbs (3.8% bodyfat, this is ridiculous) - 4.31 and 4.32 40s. (That's fast).
Jerome Mathis 5'11, 181 lbs (4.7% bodyfat) - 4.32 and 4.31 40s. (Fast, but smallish)
Mark Clayton 6'1", 193 (7.4% bodyfat) - 4.38 and 4.39 40s. (Best hands in draft as well).
Courtney Roby 6'0", 189 (7.1 bodyfat) - 4.37 40s
Leron McCoy 6'1", 211 (6.6% bodyfat) - 4.37 and 4.40

Big Name WRs that had ok results

Reggie Brown 6'1", 196 lbs (5.8% bodyfat) - 4.48 and 4.51 40s
Fred Gibson 6'4", 196 lbs (5.7% bodyfat) - 4.65 and 4.59 40s
Chris Henry 6'4", 197 lbs (6.5% bodyfat) - 4.53 40s
Mike Williams 6'4", 229 lbs (9.3% bodyfat) - 4.62 and 4.56 40s




The guy that stole the show....

Vincent Jackson 6'4", 241 lbs (6.5% bodyfat) - 4.45 and 4.51 40s.

The guy is the tallest WR in the draft, the heaviest, has a ridiculous bodyfat % for being that big (he's a rock), and is fast as hell.

If this guy shows he can catch the ball, he's going to be a first round pick. He's bigger then David Boston was coming out of college.

West
02-27-2005, 08:02 PM
damn Williamson flew...

i'd like to see Jackson in a Bronco Uni as a TE...he'd be like a Gates but fast and bigger

uhhyeahagain
02-27-2005, 09:08 PM
Adrian McPherson was lightning fast. 6'3", 218 lbs. 4.4 and 4.39 40s. He stole the show.

NFL network had mcpherson at 4.7

i think you are talking about matt jones. he had the 4.4

edit:where are you getting your numbers, btw?

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-27-2005, 09:25 PM
NFL network had mcpherson at 4.7

i think you are talking about matt jones. he had the 4.4

edit:where are you getting your numbers, btw?

The NFL network is reporting live, the times are not the official times.

My information is coming from an expensive paysite. Since I am basically copying their information, I'm not stating which site. Suffice to say, they have quite a few scouts at the combine and are not reporting until the official times are determined.

If they make an error and amend it, I'll be sure to mention it here.

Matt Jones ran a 4.3 on one of his runs. He's not a QB prospect, he's a TE or WR prospect.


EDIT:
There is a pretty big discrepency between what this site has timed for Aaron Rodgers and Adrian McPherson and what the NFL network is reporting. Most of the other times are similar though. If any changes are made, I'll edit it in.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-27-2005, 09:55 PM
Whoops, that's a typo by me. He is listed at 5'10 1/3" inches.

Bleh, I'm going to have to doublecheck all my numbers now, argh.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
02-27-2005, 10:32 PM
QBs (weight, 40 times only)

***UPDATED AND EDITED*** (There was a listing error, putting the numbers on the wrong players)

What I originally said:
Adrian McPherson was lightning fast. 6'3", 218 lbs. 4.4 and 4.39 40s. He stole the show.
The truth:
6'3, 218lbs (7.6%bodyfat), ran a 4.69 40, pulled up with a quad injury. He still impressed people though.


What I originally said:
Aaron Rodgers is losing ground, he's going to have to have a good workout at his Pro Day. 6'2" 223, 17.3 % body fat (bad), 5.14 40 (slow).
The truth:
6'2", 223lbs, (10.1% bodyfat), 4.73 and 4.81 40s. Aaron did NOT hurt his stock other then concerns about his height.


What I originally said:
Alex Smith is the top QB in this draft. 6'4", 217lbs, 14% body fat (still bad) 4.7 40 (this is decent).
The truth:
6'4", 217lbs (7.8% bodyfat), 4.78 40. Solid workout.


What I originally said:
Kyle Orton = 6'4" 233, 7% body fat (excellent), 4.6 40. Great workout.
Andrew Walter = 6'6", 233, 9% body fat, 4.7 40.
Charlie Frye = 6'3" 225, 15% body fat, 4.8 40.
Jason Campbell = 6'4" 230, 12% body fat. Did not run.
The truth:
Kyle Orton = 6'4", 233, (17% bodyfat), 5.14 40. Craptastic workout.
Andrew Walter = 6'6", 233 lbs, (12% bodyfat), Did not run due to injury.
Charlie Frye and Jason Campbell were correct.

rcsodak
02-28-2005, 12:03 AM
MUG....I think I just decided I don't want you being my lawyer....... :goofy: