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Johnny Law Man
07-19-2005, 07:04 PM
Where will the closest battles for position be?

Safe to say that there will be one hell of a tango between Darius Watts and Jerry Rice for the #3 receiver spot...

Still no clear-cut starter at Right Guard either...I hear that Clabo has the inside track, from a sports mag of course...(Think it was Street and Smith's)

Will Tatum Bell become something more than a "projected Starter"...

I also expect a bloodbath at the Nickle-Corner position too...It's Roc's job to lose and there are 3 hungry rooks waiting for their shot...

Any battles that I forgot?

Who will win these battles? :confused:

OrangeShadow
07-19-2005, 07:08 PM
Watts and rice, it will be close i hope the battle brings out the best in watts

RunByDesign
07-19-2005, 07:45 PM
OK,

Believe it or not, I think RB should be one heck of a battle, between Tater and Mike Anderson. Mike had the starting spot all but locked up last preseason and then..well, you know.

I expect Tater to shine and win the spot, ultimately.

At third WR, I really can't see it being much of a battle. Rice is too slow and cannot get seperation anymore.

Watts easily, in this one.

I believe Carlisle should have the inside track at RG.

As for the Nickle Back position, I think Foxworth is going to turn some heads and probably be a regular at that spot.

RunByDesign
07-19-2005, 07:47 PM
Truthfully, I would like to see LeSeuer challenge Ferguson for the starting spot at FS, as well.

ReleaseTheBeast7
07-19-2005, 07:59 PM
Truthfully, I would like to see LeSeuer challenge Ferguson for the starting spot at FS, as well.

I was going to add that.

But yeah. Mike Anderson isn't going to hand Tatum the job. We'll see.

RunByDesign
07-19-2005, 08:01 PM
I was going to add that.

But yeah. Mike Anderson isn't going to hand Tatum the job. We'll see.

Yeah, when Mike is healthy and running like he can run, he is a beast. He knows the system well, has good vision and can routinely break arm tackles and has a decent burst for a big man.

ReleaseTheBeast7
07-19-2005, 08:08 PM
Yeah, when Mike is healthy and running like he can run, he is a beast. He knows the system well, has good vision and can routinely break arm tackles and has a decent burst for a big man.

I remember when he broke out a 44 yarder on the Raiders on Monday Night Football 2 seasons back. It was sick, he busted through the hole, stiffarmed, crap I forget who he stiffarmed... But then he kept running and dove for the pylon, touchdown.

RunByDesign
07-19-2005, 08:36 PM
I sincerely hope Mike can return to the form he was in when he won Rookie of the Year.

Probably not, but....lets hope he can regain around 90 to 95 percent of his original form.

Supreme_D###
07-19-2005, 09:05 PM
What about TE?
Does Putz have the job solidified? or can Hape, Jackson or Duke take it from him. Just a suggestion.
But i bet shanny will have some sort of rotation for TE like he did last year. Cause i don't see Shanny keeping this many TEs around. I think there is 6 on the roster now...

RunByDesign
07-19-2005, 09:10 PM
What about TE?
Does Putz have the job solidified? or can Hape, Jackson or Duke take it from him. Just a suggestion.
But i bet shanny will have some sort of rotation for TE like he did last year. Cause i don't see Shanny keeping this many TEs around. I think there is 6 on the roster now...

In short...no.

Alexander will provide the biggest push..that is...if he even makes the roster.

Jeb has the position on lock down. It is his to lose. He has WR speed and moves at the position. He needs to work on consistency, route running, blocking and the small things that will encourage Jake to look for and depend on him more. (like getting open)

It will be interesting to see how Nate Jackson works out, BTW.

West
07-19-2005, 09:41 PM
OK,

Believe it or not, I think RB should be one heck of a battle, between Tater and Mike Anderson. Mike had the starting spot all but locked up last preseason and then..well, you know.
Yes that will be a close battle but Mike not only has to worry about injuries, we have to worry about the marijuana.

Jack Luminous
07-19-2005, 09:42 PM
Truthfully, I would like to see LeSeuer challenge Ferguson for the starting spot at FS, as well.


With Brandon Browner thrown in for good measure...

Jack Luminous
07-19-2005, 09:44 PM
D-Line is easily the m,ost interesting for me....I mean there are 19 guys right now on the roster trying to shake down to ten or maybe eleven spots....that will be VERY interesting to me...

West
07-19-2005, 09:44 PM
I thought Browner was being moved to SS. Not sure. :confused:

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07-19-2005, 09:49 PM
I thought Browner was being moved to SS. Not sure. :confused:
You can be sure. That is where they want him.

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07-19-2005, 09:51 PM
I believe Carlisle should have the inside track at RG.
There is a certain Cameron Spikes that just might have something to say about that.

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RunByDesign
07-19-2005, 10:08 PM
There is a certain Cameron Spikes that just might have something to say about that.

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Oh yeah? lol

I'd like to see Chris Meyers come along quickly, to tell the truth.

bcbronc
07-19-2005, 10:25 PM
D-Line is easily the m,ost interesting for me....I mean there are 19 guys right now on the roster trying to shake down to ten or maybe eleven spots....that will be VERY interesting to me...


i just hope its not a turtle derby or last man standing...

topscribe
07-19-2005, 11:01 PM
Oh yeah? lol

I'd like to see Chris Meyers come along quickly, to tell the truth.
I'm serious. Spikes was a starter. I'm not sure at this point what that means since it was for an inferior team, but he was a starter. All I'm saying is that he can't necessarily be discounted at this point.

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ttejuco
07-20-2005, 07:06 AM
Truthfully, I would like to see LeSeuer challenge Ferguson for the starting spot at FS, as well.

I would too, but essentially, this is Jeremy's rookie season. In the future however, im sure he will be starting there real soon, right beside Brandon Browner...

JoRo
07-20-2005, 07:36 AM
Where will the closest battles for position be?

Safe to say that there will be one hell of a tango between Darius Watts and Jerry Rice for the #3 receiver spot...

Still no clear-cut starter at Right Guard either...I hear that Clabo has the inside track, from a sports mag of course...(Think it was Street and Smith's)

Will Tatum Bell become something more than a "projected Starter"...

I also expect a bloodbath at the Nickle-Corner position too...It's Roc's job to lose and there are 3 hungry rooks waiting for their shot...

Any battles that I forgot?

Who will win these battles? :confused:

The battles taht I see are

RG: Spikes (aint he a guard?) Clabo, Carlisle

HB: Bell, Anderson, Griffin, Dayne......... I dont see Maurice really being on that this year, though he may (?)

N.B: Roc, Jeff, Payma, Darrent, Foxworth......

Punter: Saurbrun and that other fellow (lost track of name right now)

Backup QB: This will be important to us this year, not often do qbs make all snaps every year. Jake did it last year, but he prolly wont make ALL of them this year... hopefully our backup is decent..... I wouldnt mind signing someone offa cuts later on to kick Kanell off..... I really dont like him much, not accurate enough, and the other three are very young...

DT, DE: All our linemen save pryce are competing for spots I would immagine, we probably wont keep all of them on the roster, so look into this more during preseason.

ReleaseTheBeast7
07-20-2005, 07:38 AM
Yes that will be a close battle but Mike not only has to worry about injuries, we have to worry about the marijuana.
He only got in trouble for drugs once.

It's not like every other player in the NFL doesn't do drugs. Everyone does it(Except for a selected few), it's just a matter of covering it up.

JoRo
07-20-2005, 07:40 AM
He only got in trouble for drugs once.

It's not like every other player in the NFL doesn't do drugs. Everyone does it(Except for a selected few), it's just a matter of covering it up.
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And what proof do you have of this?



This was a very stupid post

Johnny Law Man
07-20-2005, 07:58 AM
The battles taht I see are

RG: Spikes (aint he a guard?) Clabo, Carlisle
Yup, Spikes was a starter for the Cardinals...Clabo is young, I think that if he can play with any consistency the job is likely his...Obviously Carlisle got the shaft here...He wanted to leave for Baltimore and we persuaded him to stay by dangling the starting job in his face...I like all of our options here...


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Backup QB: This will be important to us this year, not often do qbs make all snaps every year. Jake did it last year, but he prolly wont make ALL of them this year... hopefully our backup is decent..... I wouldnt mind signing someone offa cuts later on to kick Kanell off..... I really dont like him much, not accurate enough, and the other three are very young...
We are in a bit of a situation here...If we pick-up a new back-up, he has to learn the system...if we keep Kanell, he sucks...I say, make a statement and cut Kanell...and make it a competetion between Mauck, VanPelt and Friehauf...

DT, DE: All our linemen save pryce are competing for spots I would immagine, we probably wont keep all of them on the roster, so look into this more during preseason.
This whole situation is win-win...Fans of other teams can make fun of us all they want, but; bottom line, we have more starters than positions...

ReleaseTheBeast7
07-20-2005, 08:09 AM
'

And what proof do you have of this?



This was a very stupid post

It's obvious, I may be judging, but drugs are addictive, once you start you can't stop. If you do it once, and you like it, you're going to do it for the rest of your life.

Now, I don't do drugs, but I have plenty of friends that do, and that is the situation.

BroncoRT
07-20-2005, 08:42 AM
Truthfully, I would like to see LeSeuer challenge Ferguson for the starting spot at FS, as well.

Next year. He has a lot to learn.

JoRo
07-20-2005, 09:23 AM
It's obvious, I may be judging, but drugs are addictive, once you start you can't stop. If you do it once, and you like it, you're going to do it for the rest of your life.

Now, I don't do drugs, but I have plenty of friends that do, and that is the situation.


No, you said that many in the NFL do this, you have no proof of that, that is like you sayin that 90% of the world does it, without any proof, yes it is proven that some do do drugs in the NFL, Ricky Williams, and such, but you have no proof more do it than not

ttejuco
07-20-2005, 10:30 AM
It's obvious, I may be judging, but drugs are addictive, once you start you can't stop. If you do it once, and you like it, you're going to do it for the rest of your life.

Now, I don't do drugs, but I have plenty of friends that do, and that is the situation.

That's not true. Drugs are addictive but people have a thing called will power. It's not like i smoke weed everyday...Im not going to do it for the rest of my life, it phases out.

All the myths are lies.

ReleaseTheBeast7
07-20-2005, 11:24 AM
No, you said that many in the NFL do this, you have no proof of that, that is like you sayin that 90% of the world does it, without any proof, yes it is proven that some do do drugs in the NFL, Ricky Williams, and such, but you have no proof more do it than not
Alright, you're right, I have no proof. I'll admit i'm wrong.

But, theres still a good chance that alot of the NFL players do it.

RunByDesign
07-20-2005, 12:39 PM
It's obvious, I may be judging, but drugs are addictive, once you start you can't stop. If you do it once, and you like it, you're going to do it for the rest of your life.

Now, I don't do drugs, but I have plenty of friends that do, and that is the situation.

Not in all cases.

I tried drugs. Hell, I loved them, especially weed.

Now I'm 100% drug free, aside from the occasional alcoholic beverage. I have little inclination do ever do any again, and believe me, I loved weed like I love to breathe.

On a case by case basis, I would say that it isn't always true, but certainly, when considering the majority of cases, it most certainly is.

RunByDesign
07-20-2005, 12:41 PM
'

And what proof do you have of this?



This was a very stupid post

Easy now, guys. :heh:

No need to snip. ;)

RunnersParadise
07-20-2005, 01:15 PM
The DE's will battle it out for 2-3 spots.

RunByDesign
07-20-2005, 01:20 PM
I wonder where Anton Palepoi is gonna fit into all this?

If we keep alot of these bodies, we're gonna have some serious defensive packages that we can throw at teams.

Dean
07-20-2005, 08:49 PM
I wonder where Anton Palepoi is gonna fit into all this?

If we keep alot of these bodies, we're gonna have some serious defensive packages that we can throw at teams.

After last year, I would be happy with a first team (2 DE and 2 DT) of quality players that stayed healthy.

Jack Luminous
07-20-2005, 09:40 PM
There is a certain Cameron Spikes that just might have something to say about that.

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....and don't count out Tyson Clabo's 6'6"-315 frame...I like that kid...

rcsodak
07-20-2005, 09:59 PM
Here's my final roster.....and those missing may end up on the PS, IR, or doghouse.....

High School Hometown How Acq.
45 Alexander, Roc CB 5' 10" 190 09/23/81 R Washington Colorado Springs, Colo. CFA-04
82 Alexander, Stephen TE 6' 4" 250 11/07/75 8th Oklahoma Chickasha, Okla. UFA (Det)-'05
38 Anderson, Mike RB 6' 0" 230 09/21/73 5th Utah Winnsboro, S.C. D6-'00
24 Bailey, Champ CB 6' 0" 192 06/22/78 6th Georgia Folkston, Ga. T (Was)-'04
26 Bell, Tatum RB 5' 11" 213 03/02/81 R Oklahoma State Dallas, Texas D2a-'04
42 Brandon, Sam S 6' 2" 200 07/05/79 3rd UNLV Riverside, Calif. D4-'02
98 Brown, Courtney DE 6' 4" 285 02/14/78 6th Penn State Alvin, S.C. FA-'05
51 Burns, Keith LB 6' 2" 235 05/16/72 12th Oklahoma State Alexandria, Va. UFA (TB)-'05
65 Carlisle, Cooper G/T 6' 5" 295 08/11/77 5th Florida McComb, Miss. D4b-'00
55 Chukwurah, Patrick LB 6' 1" 250 03/01/79 4th Wyoming Irving, Texas FA-'04
70 Clabo, Tyson G 6' 6" 314 10/17/81 R Wake Forest Knoxville, Tenn CFA-'04
67 Clement, Anthony T 6' 8" 320 04/10/76 8th Louisiana-Lafayette Cecilia, La. FA-'05
33 Dayne, Ron RB 5' 10" 245 03/14/78 6th Wisconsin Berlin, N.J. UFA (NYG)-'05
91 Ekuban, Ebenezer DE 6' 3" 275 05/29/76 7th North Carolina Bowie, Md. T (Cle)-'05
1 Elam, Jason K 5' 11" 200 03/08/70 12th Hawaii Ft. Walton Beach, Fla. D3b-'93
Engelberger, John DE 6' 4" 268 10/18/76 6th Virginia Tech Springfield, Va. T (SF)-'05
68 Fatafehi, Mario DT 6' 2" 300 01/27/79 4th Kansas State Honolulu, Hawaii FA-03
25 Ferguson, Nick S 5' 11" 201 11/27/74 5th Georgia Tech Miami, Fla. FA-03
72 Foster, George T 6' 5" 338 06/09/80 2nd Georgia Macon, Ga. D1-03
22 Foxworth, Domonique CB 5' 10" 180 03/27/83 R Maryland Catonsville, Md. D3b-'05
52 Gold, Ian LB 6' 0" 223 08/23/78 6th Michigan Belleville, Mich. FA-'05/ D2a-'00
74 Green, Cornell T 6' 6" 315 08/25/76 5th Central Florida St. Petersburg, Fla. UFA(TB)-'04
21 Griffin, Quentin RB 5' 7" 195 01/12/81 2nd Oklahoma Houston, Texas D4a-'03
50 Hamilton, Ben G/C 6' 4" 283 08/18/77 4th Minnesota Minneapolis, Minn. D4a-'01
86 Hape, Patrick FB/TE 6' 4" 262 06/06/74 8th Alabama Killen, Ala. UFA(TB)-'01
71 Hunt, Aaron DE 6' 2" 265 06/19/80 1st Texas Tech Denison, Texas FA-'05
89 Jackson, Nate TE 6' 3" 235 06/04/79 2nd Menlo San Jose, Calif. T (S.F.)-'03
39 Johnson, Kyle FB 6' 0" 242 12/15/78 2nd Syracuse Woodbridge, N.J. FA-'03
13 Kanell, Danny QB 6' 3" 218 11/21/73 7th Florida State Fort Lauderdale, Fla. FA-03
31 LeSueur, Jeremy S 6' 0" 204 10/05/80 R Michigan Holly Springs, Miss. D3-04
85 Lelie, Ashley WR 6' 3" 200 02/16/80 3rd Hawaii Honolulu, Hawaii D1-02
78 Lepsis, Matt T 6' 4" 290 01/13/74 8th Colorado Conroe, Texas CFA-'97
47 Lynch, John S 6' 2" 220 09/25/71 12th Stanford Del Mar, Calif. FA-'04
8 Mauck, Matt QB 6' 1" 213 02/12/79 R Louisiana State Jasper, Ind. D7-04
76 Myers, Michael DT 6' 2" 300 01/20/76 8th Alabama Vicksburg, Miss. T (Cle)-'05
62 Myers, Chris G 6' 4" 300 09/15/81 R Miami Miami, Fla. D6-'05
66 Nalen, Tom C 6' 3" 286 05/13/71 11th Boston College Foxboro, Mass. D7c-94
95 Palepoi, Anton DE 6' 3" 283 01/19/78 3rd UNLV Salt Lake City, Utah FA-'04
41 Paymah, Karl CB 5' 11" 204 11/29/82 R Washington State Culver City, Calif. D3a-'05
16 Plummer, Jake QB 6' 2" 212 12/19/74 8th Arizona St. Boise, Idaho UFA(Ari)-03
93 Pryce, Trevor DE 6' 5" 286 08/03/75 8th Clemson Winter Park, Fla. D1-'97
88 Putzier, Jeb TE 6' 4" 256 01/20/79 3rd Boise State Eagle, Idaho D6-02
19 Rice, Jerry WR 6' 2" 200 10/13/62 21st Mississippi Valley State Crawford, Miss. FA-'05
37 Sapp, Cecil RB 5' 11" 229 12/23/78 2nd Colorado State Miami, Fla. CFA-'03
10 Sauerbrun, Todd P 5' 10" 215 01/04/73 11th West Virginia East Setauket, N.Y. T (Car)-'05
79 Sewell, Josh C 6' 2" 288 07/26/81 R Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. D6-04
80 Smith, Rod WR 6' 0" 200 05/15/70 12th Missouri Southern Texarkana, Ark. CFA-94
73 Spikes, Cameron G 6' 4" 313 11/06/76 7th Texas A&M Madisonville, TX UFA (Ari.)-'05
35 Walls, Lenny CB 6' 4" 195 09/26/79 3rd Boston College San Francisco, Calif. CFA-02
61 Warren, Gerard DT 6' 4" 325 07/25/78 5th Florida Lake Butler, Fla. T (Cle) -'05
17 Watts, Darius WR 6' 2" 190 12/19/81 R Marshall College Park, Ga. D2b-'04
55 Williams, D.J. LB 6' 1" 242 07/20/82 R Miami Concord, Calif. D1-'04
27 Williams, Darrent CB 5' 8" 188 09/27/82 R Oklahoma State Fort Worth, Texas D2-'05
56 Wilson, Al LB 6' 0" 240 06/21/77 6th Tennessee Jackson, Tenn. D1-99

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07-21-2005, 02:10 AM
....and don't count out Tyson Clabo's 6'6"-315 frame...I like that kid...
I do, too. Either his frame or Spikes' 6'4" 313# frame . . . . if one turns out to be particularly good, we will have a lot of beef there beside that monster Foster, won't we?

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Dean
07-21-2005, 04:44 AM
He only got in trouble for drugs once.

It's not like every other player in the NFL doesn't do drugs. Everyone does it(Except for a selected few), it's just a matter of covering it up.

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that you don't get a 3 or 4 game suspension for testing positive on your first offense. I think it was his third positive test.

JRWIZ
07-21-2005, 07:01 AM
He only got in trouble for drugs once.

It's not like every other player in the NFL doesn't do drugs. Everyone does it(Except for a selected few), it's just a matter of covering it up.

Smart players stay away from all drugs except those given or prescribed by doctors.

They make their living with their bodies, if you put something in that causes you problems or is a banned substance they get fined and suspended.

It will bit him big time and anyone else that is stupid. The one old advertising slogan pay me now or pay me alot more later applies. What you put into your body that should not be, sooner or later causes a problem, but it always is a problem.

BTW drug policy for him next time is year off. Think he is stupid? Time will tell.

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07-21-2005, 07:33 AM
Yes that will be a close battle but Mike not only has to worry about injuries, we have to worry about the marijuana.
How long ago was that? Either throw him out of the game when it happens, or leave it in the past.

But if we don't hear any more about it, he should not hear from us anymore about it.

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Cugel
07-21-2005, 03:07 PM
He only got in trouble for drugs once.

It's not like every other player in the NFL doesn't do drugs. Everyone does it(Except for a selected few), it's just a matter of covering it up.
His real problem is that he didn't just get an "Original Whizzinator" (http://www.whizzinator.com/) like Onterrio Smith!

:laugh:

gobroncsnv
07-21-2005, 06:54 PM
But WAIT, There's MORE!!!! Operators are standing by!!!!
Order now, and you get a set of Ginsu Knives!
The Whizzinator, by Ronco

HaroldWoods41SS
07-22-2005, 03:54 PM
if i do remember correctly we garunteed cooper the starting spot

broncosfan247
07-22-2005, 04:15 PM
I think some are under-estimating a few on our squad. And thats typical when it's a first year guy battling it out. Most of us don't know much about them, so we don't expect to see much. That being said, here are a couple of sleeper battles.

Stephen Alexander
vs.
Jeb Putzier

Jeb will start, but wouldn't be suprised if Alexander replaces him by midseason. Jeb has problems blocking while Alexander is almost just as fast, blocks better, and is just as good as a receiver.

Maurice Clarrett
vs.
Tatum Bell & Mike Anderson

Bell is gonna be our starter come week one, I have no doubts about that. But I'm looking at the #2 spot. I think Clarrett has a good to great chance of taking that spot. I think he's being totally underrated, and he's always been golden on the gridiron, no matter what Ohioans think of him. He is still a stud.

Sevenis7
07-23-2005, 05:27 PM
OK,

Believe it or not, I think RB should be one heck of a battle, between Tater and Mike Anderson. Mike had the starting spot all but locked up last preseason and then..well, you know.

I expect Tater to shine and win the spot, ultimately.

At third WR, I really can't see it being much of a battle. Rice is too slow and cannot get seperation anymore.

Watts easily, in this one.

I believe Carlisle should have the inside track at RG.

As for the Nickle Back position, I think Foxworth is going to turn some heads and probably be a regular at that spot.

I agree w/you about TBell over MA, and Watts over Rice (though I think JR will contribute some big catches throughout the year). Yes, Carlisle has the inside track at RG, b/c Shanahan values experience. That's what surprised me about you picking Foxworth at the nickel. It's Roc's position to lose b/c he saw some playing time last year and knows the system.

Also, I'm w/you on Browner at safety. I just get the feeling that the kid's going to be too good to keep off the field. At 6'3" and 220 lbs. and having played CB in college, he'll shut down some of these TEs and big slot WRs.