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White Dragon
08-04-2005, 10:52 AM
Brown Injured in Morning Practice

By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- It was a with piercing, horrifying yelp from Courtney Brown that the Broncos' relatively tranquil training camp was shattered Thursday morning.

The six-year veteran defensive end will miss at least three weeks with a dislocated left elbow incurred during team drills during a morning practice session at the South Suburban Sports Dome.

"The X-rays were negative," Head Coach Mike Shanahan said. "There were no breaks, so he should be out anywhere from optimistically three weeks to pessimistically four to six weeks."

The injury was what defensive end Trevor Pryce termed a "freak accident."

"I think a safety hit him in his elbow as he was running downfield," Pryce said. "It's one of those things that happens."

Added defensive tackle Luther Elliss: "It looked like he was just going to help make the tackle and his arm just got caught between the ballcarrier and the tackler. He popped it out."

Brown's teammates knew the nature of the injury immediately.

"It was (scary), but I think everybody knew what happened," Pryce said. "Gerard went and looked at it, and he said, 'He dislocated his elbow.' It was out of place."

Duilen
08-04-2005, 11:03 AM
Hopefully he is ready to go by the San Diego game.

defense!!!
08-04-2005, 11:03 AM
Brown Injured in Morning Practice

By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- It was a with piercing, horrifying yelp from Courtney Brown that the Broncos' relatively tranquil training camp was shattered Thursday morning.

The six-year veteran defensive end will miss at least three weeks with a dislocated left elbow incurred during team drills during a morning practice session at the South Suburban Sports Dome.

"The X-rays were negative," Head Coach Mike Shanahan said. "There were no breaks, so he should be out anywhere from optimistically three weeks to pessimistically four to six weeks."

The injury was what defensive end Trevor Pryce termed a "freak accident."

"I think a safety hit him in his elbow as he was running downfield," Pryce said. "It's one of those things that happens."

Added defensive tackle Luther Elliss: "It looked like he was just going to help make the tackle and his arm just got caught between the ballcarrier and the tackler. He popped it out."

Brown's teammates knew the nature of the injury immediately.

"It was (scary), but I think everybody knew what happened," Pryce said. "Gerard went and looked at it, and he said, 'He dislocated his elbow.' It was out of place."

NOOOOO!!!!!!!! Not Injured Reserve again!!!! Please Courtney, calm down!!!

BroncosB2B
08-04-2005, 11:04 AM
This is why, unlike some of you, I didn't get my hopes up about an oft-injured defensive line.

RoorRipper
08-04-2005, 11:04 AM
:mad: What a bad situation. So are we thinking he will be back by week 2 or 3 of preseason?

ReleaseTheBeast7
08-04-2005, 11:09 AM
This is why, unlike some of you, I didn't get my hopes up about an oft-injured defensive line.
^Yeah that.

What did I tell you people? Shanny made some of the dumbest moves this past offseason. It's going to bite us in the ass now.

defense!!!
08-04-2005, 11:13 AM
^Yeah that.

What did I tell you people? Shanny made some of the dumbest moves this past offseason. It's going to bite us in the ass now.

He'll be out only during the preseason so I guess we can all take a deep breath and hope for the best. :D

Amigo_Bronco
08-04-2005, 11:16 AM
Trying to find the positive side (if there is one)... less stress for his foot, more time to recover, but at the same time, less time to get in shape.... :ugh:

Mount-n-Groan
08-04-2005, 11:17 AM
:rolleyes:

It was a freak accident, guys (you know who you are). It's not like he had a degenerative elbow condition. If someone would've predicted that he'd dislocate his elbow then I'd say you were right; otherwise it appears to me that you're just waiting to pounce....

:coffee:

ReleaseTheBeast7
08-04-2005, 11:22 AM
:rolleyes:

It was a freak accident, guys (you know who you are). It's not like he had a degenerative elbow condition. If someone would've predicted that he'd dislocate his elbow then I'd say you were right; otherwise it appears to me that you're just waiting to pounce....

:coffee:

I don't care if he would have had a burst vein in his head, the guy is injury prone, simple. He will never be healthy and he will never have a chance to show his true potential.

Trust me, those Browns fans were hoping the SAME thing for the past 5 years. "He'll get healthy sooner or later, it's just a matter of time." Soon, another injury popped up, and another, and another.

The only good thing is that we have a man there now that had 8.5 sacks last season(Ebenezer Ekuban). So it shouldn't hurt THAT much.

silkamilkamonic
08-04-2005, 11:24 AM
Courtney Brown injured? wow.


Cut his azz now and just move on with what you got Denver, please.....

RoorRipper
08-04-2005, 11:28 AM
^Yeah that.

What did I tell you people? Shanny made some of the dumbest moves this past offseason. It's going to bite us in the ass now.
Well don't get too uncomfortable, the season is all that counts and he should be rehabilitated by then. You are too quick to jump the gun man!

silkamilkamonic
08-04-2005, 11:32 AM
Well don't get too uncomfortable, the season is all that counts and he should be rehabilitated by then. You are too quick to jump the gun man!


well, it is a dislocated left elbow, which means it will be weaker and subject to dislocate again.

He didn't even make it through training camp this year, and when he does come back in 3-6 weeks, or whatever the time frame, he won't be 100% during the year. That much is a given.

RoorRipper
08-04-2005, 11:33 AM
well, it is a dislocated left elbow, which means it will be weaker and subject to dislocate again.

He didn't even make it through training camp this year, and when he does come back in 3-6 weeks, or whatever the time frame, he won't be 100% during the year. That much is a given.
True, and there will be a guy in that spot when he returns. I really like Ekuban so I am not that upset with this. Hopefully he recovers.

Mount-n-Groan
08-04-2005, 11:38 AM
Well don't get too uncomfortable, the season is all that counts and he should be rehabilitated by then. You are too quick to jump the gun man!

I agree, Beast. Same thing happened to me my freshman year. Playing FS, receiver coming across the middle, ball is on the way, he's on the inside of my forearm and one of my teammates came over to "help" going the opposite direction on the outside of my upper arm. Pop!!! Hurt like hell, chipped a bone too, but I only missed 1 game.

He is oft injured, as you've said, (maybe the football gods don't like him), but this isn't THAT serious.... yet. :ugh:

BTW, Beast... which is it? Is it going to "bite us in the ass" or "not hurt that much"??? Maybe just a nibble on the ass.... maybe??? :D

Peace...

RunYouOver
08-04-2005, 11:45 AM
This is why, unlike some of you, I didn't get my hopes up about an oft-injured defensive line.


If it was a "freak accident" then how can you even blame that?

It's just one of those things that happens :ugh:

NJBRONCOSFAN
08-04-2005, 12:04 PM
Obviously this is discouraging, but it's something that he can come back from and still contribute during the majority of the season.

Southstander
08-04-2005, 12:07 PM
Are you kidding me!! Maybe all the talk about the Broencos where right

RBDynasty
08-04-2005, 12:14 PM
Just relax guys and have some faith. He's not going to be out that long.

Momentum
08-04-2005, 12:15 PM
^Yeah that.

What did I tell you people? Shanny made some of the dumbest moves this past offseason. It's going to bite us in the ass now.

For the record, I only supported the trade for Ekubahn and Myers :coffee:

ttejuco
08-04-2005, 12:18 PM
Wow, alot of people dont understand what a freak accident is. It couldve happened to anyone. At least his foot didnt snap off or something, that wouldve been worse. Dislocated elbows are alot different than dislocated shoulders. Shoulders are more likely to be dislocated after the first injury.

2 Minute Warning
08-04-2005, 12:18 PM
Wishing him a speedy recovery.

PRBronco
08-04-2005, 12:37 PM
Wow, alot of people dont understand what a freak accident is. It couldve happened to anyone. At least his foot didnt snap off or something, that wouldve been worse. Dislocated elbows are alot different than dislocated shoulders. Shoulders are more likely to be dislocated after the first injury.

This is the voice of reason right here. Everyone cool down, there's some spazzes here.

Jeez though, have you ever seen anyone with worse luck? I mean, seriously!

We better batten down the hatches and get ready for the influx of haters and told-you-soers that'll be surfacing in the media and on here. Who adopted Courtney Brown? He's gonna need some support.

topscribe
08-04-2005, 12:53 PM
This is the voice of reason right here. Everyone cool down, there's some spazzes here.

Jeez though, have you ever seen anyone with worse luck? I mean, seriously!

We better batten down the hatches and get ready for the influx of haters and told-you-soers that'll be surfacing in the media and on here. Who adopted Courtney Brown? He's gonna need some support.
Good advice, PRB. This is just one incident, for crying out loud!

If Ekuban, Myers, and Warren all join Brown in sick bay, then I'll panic!

:goofy:

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Mount-n-Groan
08-04-2005, 12:54 PM
This is the voice of reason right here. Everyone cool down, there's some spazzes here.

Jeez though, have you ever seen anyone with worse luck? I mean, seriously!

We better batten down the hatches and get ready for the influx of haters and told-you-soers that'll be surfacing in the media and on here. Who adopted Courtney Brown? He's gonna need some support.

My thoughts exactly. I suggested that maybe the football gods don't like him, but I think there's more likely a civil war in the Great Gridiron in the sky. He's blessed with exceptional talent (hardly anyone disagrees), yet cursed with a propensity for injuries (the proof is in the puddin').

This makes me wonder if maybe Brown's "talent" isn't actually a larger than normal dose of unbridled ambition often putting him in compromising situations.

:spazon: :huh:

Cugel
08-04-2005, 01:04 PM
I agree, Beast. Same thing happened to me my freshman year. Playing FS, receiver coming across the middle, ball is on the way, he's on the inside of my forearm and one of my teammates came over to "help" going the opposite direction on the outside of my upper arm. Pop!!! Hurt like hell, chipped a bone too, but I only missed 1 game.

He is oft injured, as you've said, (maybe the football gods don't like him), but this isn't THAT serious.... yet. :ugh:

BTW, Beast... which is it? Is it going to "bite us in the ass" or "not hurt that much"??? Maybe just a nibble on the ass.... maybe??? :D

Peace...
I'm curious M-n-G, did that injury nag you for the rest of the season or was it a non-factor? Did you have to favor one arm in making tackles? Was that arm weaker? Did you have leverage problems with blockers?

How long did it take before you were really completely healthy again?

Of course, for a DL using your elbows to gain leverage over OTs is key, so you can't have any weakness in your arms or you can't be effective.

Mount-n-Groan
08-04-2005, 01:37 PM
I'm curious M-n-G...

Unfortunately, I couldn't (nor dared) move it for almost a week and I don't think it was "fully healed" for a few months. The doc was more worried about ligament or nerve damage, but gave me an 'okay' to play (though it was against his 'fatherly' advice) after seeing that everything was good. I only missed one game, but nearly two weeks of practice. I never had a problem with it the rest of the season in so much as limiting my ability to execute at my position, but I did play through some pain and did favor it when tackling and catching. I also wore a brace that restricted movement. It wasn't so much that I didn't have strength in it, but rather my range of motion was limited - physically & psychologically.

The worst for me is the memory - which still lingers today (especially today). Sometimes I can hear and feel it all over again, and it still locks up some. I attribute my initial speedy recovery to being a healthy and active young chap at the time - something I hope Brown still has in him. The concern is valid - a DB could easily recover adequately from this, but can a defensive lineman? I hope so. I guess we'll find out.

Meck77
08-04-2005, 01:50 PM
Injuries happened but I still don't understand why they opted to practice in the dome today just because of some rain. We got to camp yesterday at 12:00 and left this morning at 9:00am when practice was canceled after they said there was going to be practice. We had fun camping on the bus but we spent 20 hours waiting for a practice and never saw a snap.

There were ALOT of wet disappointed fans at camp this morning and we got an injured player anyway. IMO it would have benefited the team to practice in the adverse weather. No need to talk about the Raider game last season anymore. :duh:

ttejuco
08-04-2005, 01:51 PM
Ive dislocated my elbow before. The bone was broken however, and i was out for 3 months. It sucked, i couldnt do anything. It still bothers me from time to time. When i do push ups sometimes my elbow locks and it is a pain. Brown's wasnt broken so things look better for him.

diesel51
08-04-2005, 02:06 PM
Some of you are jumping the gun.

Worse situation = Brown has a bad season due to injury, or doesn't play at all due to injuries. Given that situation, we still have Ekuban and Englberry?, both who had more sacks last year than any other current Bronco D Lineman.

Best situation = Brown takes off most of preseason, maybe playing in last game as warm up, and has a productive season for us. His missing preseason just allows us to evaluate other DE talent brought in to see who is worth keeping.

Have cheer doubters. :beer:

JRWIZ
08-04-2005, 02:14 PM
What about bad back price. Sounds like we are DOWN two as we speak.

HaroldWoods41SS
08-04-2005, 02:19 PM
i think that pryce will be ok

diesel51
08-04-2005, 02:24 PM
Well, honestly I'm worried more about Pryce than Brown, but again we have depth. Hopefully everyone is ready when the season starts.

clevesteve
08-04-2005, 02:28 PM
Trust me, those Browns fans were hoping the SAME thing for the past 5 years. "He'll get healthy sooner or later, it's just a matter of time." Soon, another injury popped up, and another, and another.

This is exactly correct. Every year, at least once a year, everyone will say how bad they feel for Courtney that he dislocated his ribs or fractured his orbital bone trying to make a play... This has been going on since 2001. Every year. If I were you guys, I wouldn't worry about this elbow thing, I'd be more worried about what's going to happen to him next, and how many games in the regular season you'll get out of him.

Missed training camp time means nothing to Courtney. He is a very smart guy who has excellent instincts, and plays a position where natural ability outweighs coaching/practice moreso than any other spot on the field. The real story here is that "freak" accidents always happen to Courtney Brown. And from they looks of things, they will continue to.

-steve... browns fan

jletourneau
08-04-2005, 02:48 PM
Wow! This isn't what I wanted to see either, but cut the man some slack. It wasn't like this is what he wanted. He didn't go do something stupid.

I sure hope for Courtney's sake, he comes back by week 2 and makes everyone want to jump back on his bandwagon, because that's where we'd all be if his luck had turned the other way.

None of us ask for rough things, but I can guarantee you Courtney has learned a thing or two about perseverance and if he can get healthy in the time frame they're currently giving, we'll all get to watch our beloved Broncos benefit from some of that perseverance.

Prayers and best wishes to you Courtney!

JRWIZ
08-04-2005, 03:34 PM
He gets a check if he is on the field or not (IR).

Who is the smart guy here?

silkamilkamonic
08-04-2005, 03:44 PM
Well, honestly I'm worried more about Pryce than Brown, but again we have depth. Hopefully everyone is ready when the season starts.


Pryce will be ok.

He has soreness in the same spot that he had offseason surgery. That's natural because he working a group of muscles that have laid dorment for so long.

That muscle region just has to get used to being physically active to that extent again.

towels
08-04-2005, 04:23 PM
At least he got hurt on the field instead of in a parking lot...
:rolleyes:

JRWIZ
08-04-2005, 08:44 PM
Pryce will be ok.

He has soreness in the same spot that he had offseason surgery. That's natural because he working a group of muscles that have laid dorment for so long.

That muscle region just has to get used to being physically active to that extent again.

Trust me when I say they have not been dormant.

Had basically the same surgery in 1999, within days, as soon as the stitches were out it was off to rehab. Slowly within two weeks of being able to bend over again was pumping iron and lots of funky water excercises.
I was unable to stand straight up, take a whiz or a dump for a few days before surgery. Was hardly able to sit and lay still. Felt lke a new man the next moring after waking up. Actually was jumping around and tore a stitch.

There has been NO dormant muslces in in that back since. Before perhaps, cause of the pain, after NOPE.

silkamilkamonic
08-04-2005, 09:35 PM
Whether they laid dormant or not, there is never a player that doesn't experience soreness after surgery.

For whatever reason, it just doesn't happen.

Look when Holmes blew his knee out 3 years ago, and ended up missing over half the following preseason camp. What did he do that year? Had the same explosive statistical that he always had.

It's nothing to get freaked out about. Pennington is experiening soreness on his throwing arm right now.

Anytime you get cut open it's a big deal. Your body just isn't going to be normal afterwards without working up to it.

Pryce will be fine.

chickennob2
08-04-2005, 10:10 PM
At least his foot didnt snap off or something, that wouldve been worse.

REALLY? :laugh:

You mean it would be a bad thing if his foot SNAPPED OFF?

Holy ****, that cracked me up. "at least his foot didnt SNAP OFF. that wouldve been worse." god thats classic


No offense meant, im not belittling your remark in any way, i just found it VERY funny

watchthemiddle
08-04-2005, 10:25 PM
At least he got hurt on the field instead of in a parking lot...
:rolleyes:

HAHAHAHAAHA!!! Thats great!!

He got hurt trying to strip the ball. Thats okay with me, atleast he was tying to force a turnover ( something we didn't do much of last year ) and he wasn't quiting on the play.

rcsodak
08-04-2005, 10:49 PM
^Yeah that.

What did I tell you people? Shanny made some of the dumbest moves this past offseason. It's going to bite us in the ass now.

:coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

topscribe
08-05-2005, 08:52 AM
^Yeah that.

What did I tell you people? Shanny made some of the dumbest moves this past offseason. It's going to bite us in the ass now.
RTB, I like you, but you occasionally have this propensity for jumping the gun.
It's a little early for the "what did I tell you?" line.
Let's see what happens in the big picture in camp.

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ttejuco
08-05-2005, 11:27 AM
REALLY? :laugh:

You mean it would be a bad thing if his foot SNAPPED OFF?

Holy ****, that cracked me up. "at least his foot didnt SNAP OFF. that wouldve been worse." god thats classic


No offense meant, im not belittling your remark in any way, i just found it VERY funny

:beer: Laughs are always good.

Cugel
08-05-2005, 12:11 PM
At least he got hurt on the field instead of in a parking lot...
:rolleyes:
LoL! :laugh:

Yes! At least they've got Brown to STAY AWAY from those rough IHOPs in Aurora. That's a tough crowd to mess with!

:laugh:

Just remembering that useless CHODE Daryl Gardener makes me feel better about Courtney Brown! (BTW: Did you notice that Pancake Boy isn't even in the league anymore?) LMAO!

Brown's fan
08-23-2005, 09:02 PM
Some of you guys are way to manic! It is pre-season, ...and a 16 game season at that! How many players make it through the entire season without missing a game each year? Your defensive line's strength is that they played together as a team in C-level-land the past couple of years. This ain't a bowling league you know, its the NFL. Courtney's past injuries came about, to a large extent, as a result of training under Butch(er) Davis as well as the fact that the "D" was on the field 2/3rds of the time. Be kind to your players, they will lay it out for you in time.
Man!!!... a guy gets blind sided by his own player and that proves he is "clumsey"?...or "accident prone" ?!?!?... Cut him???.....and replace him with...who???.... and your coaches are idiots?? Why are you guys working where you do(and I too for that matter)/ Is it because we are talent savants?
Don"t go flip flopping later in the year when he gets a defensive player of the week honor for ripping up some raider QB.
Relax and enjoy the fruit of their work! Quit second guessing your organization for crying out loud, you sound like Model... err... Brown's fans I know.

topscribe
08-24-2005, 12:36 AM
Some of you guys are way to manic! It is pre-season, ...and a 16 game season at that! How many players make it through the entire season without missing a game each year? Your defensive line's strength is that they played together as a team in C-level-land the past couple of years. This ain't a bowling league you know, its the NFL. Courtney's past injuries came about, to a large extent, as a result of training under Butch(er) Davis as well as the fact that the "D" was on the field 2/3rds of the time. Be kind to your players, they will lay it out for you in time.
Man!!!... a guy gets blind sided by his own player and that proves he is "clumsey"?...or "accident prone" ?!?!?... Cut him???.....and replace him with...who???.... and your coaches are idiots?? Why are you guys working where you do(and I too for that matter)/ Is it because we are talent savants?
Don"t go flip flopping later in the year when he gets a defensive player of the week honor for ripping up some raider QB.
Relax and enjoy the fruit of their work! Quit second guessing your organization for crying out loud, you sound like Model... err... Brown's fans I know.
Nicely put. Thanks.

And I see you just recently started posting. Welcome to the boards! :beer:

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rcsodak
08-24-2005, 11:24 PM
Some of you guys are way to manic! It is pre-season, ...and a 16 game season at that! How many players make it through the entire season without missing a game each year? Your defensive line's strength is that they played together as a team in C-level-land the past couple of years. This ain't a bowling league you know, its the NFL. Courtney's past injuries came about, to a large extent, as a result of training under Butch(er) Davis as well as the fact that the "D" was on the field 2/3rds of the time. Be kind to your players, they will lay it out for you in time.
Man!!!... a guy gets blind sided by his own player and that proves he is "clumsey"?...or "accident prone" ?!?!?... Cut him???.....and replace him with...who???.... and your coaches are idiots?? Why are you guys working where you do(and I too for that matter)/ Is it because we are talent savants?
Don"t go flip flopping later in the year when he gets a defensive player of the week honor for ripping up some raider QB.
Relax and enjoy the fruit of their work! Quit second guessing your organization for crying out loud, you sound like Model... err... Brown's fans I know.
I second Top's cudos.....

Welcome, and thanks. Sometimes, fans can't see the forest for the trees..... ;)

gobroncsnv
08-25-2005, 07:21 AM
Seems like the most humane thing to do would be to just shoot Brown now...

yeah, right... I think he'll be just fine, once the season comes along... I would hazard a guess that he is still working on conditioning, while being able to rehab the elbow... If his elbow is "more subject to dislocation", then by the same measure, we shoot Tatum Bell for his dislocated shoulder, and all the other folks with dislocated this and thats...
I'm still willing to get whatever we can from him when he can play, because of how pitiful our pass rush was last year. Just to be perfectly clear, I ain't ready to shoot him just yet.

Peerless
08-25-2005, 02:20 PM
I think there is something left in him. He was a first rounder for some odd reason, we just have to find it.

JRWIZ
08-25-2005, 03:52 PM
I think there is something left in him. He was a first rounder for some odd reason, we just have to find it.


If memory serves he was the first choice period, had he not been taken by the Browns first he would had went in the top 10.

1 Cleveland Courtney Brown DE Penn State
6 Philadelphia Corey Simon DT Florida State
12 N.Y. Jets Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
13 N.Y. Jets John Abraham DE South Carolina

He is in some tall company here.

Peerless
08-25-2005, 05:36 PM
If memory serves he was the first choice period, had he not been taken by the Browns first he would had went in the top 10.

1 Cleveland Courtney Brown DE Penn State
6 Philadelphia Corey Simon DT Florida State
12 N.Y. Jets Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
13 N.Y. Jets John Abraham DE South Carolina

He is in some tall company here.
Alll those other players have amounted to something. Yes it sounds rude but it's true.

topscribe
08-25-2005, 05:44 PM
Alll those other players have amounted to something. Yes it sounds rude but it's true.
Hold that thought until January.
Then we'll see.

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Peerless
08-25-2005, 05:45 PM
Hold that thought until January.
Then we'll see.

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Yup. The season is VERY young....

Jared
08-25-2005, 05:55 PM
I posted this a while back in a discussion with Topscribe:


I watched Brown play in person in 17 college games and 3 pro, and his best games were always against clearly overmatched lineman in college. In the pros, in the games I saw, he never made any impact. And he was healthy. He is NOT a beast when healthy IMO (which by the way, he never is).


SIGH.

Maybe he is just a frail person? (relative to the average NFLPlayer, of course!).

topscribe
08-25-2005, 06:48 PM
Maybe he is just a frail person? (relative to the average NFLPlayer, of course!).
You made a lot of sense then, regarding your observations of Brown, as you do now, Jared. However, while track record can often be valuable in projecting the future, it does not necessarily portend the future. Brown was impressing the likes of Trevor Pryce before his (Brown's) injury. Moreover, a couple of his injuries, such as his foot and more recently his elbow, were inflicted with such force that it would have injured anybody.

You did manage to calm some of my effervescence regarding Brown, but I now prefer to wait and see what he does for us. Assuming fate smiles upon him and he can finally stay healthy for a season, he and Pryce may form something special at DE this year.

BTW, welcome back from your little sabbatical.

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watchthemiddle
08-25-2005, 06:56 PM
You made a lot of sense then, regarding your observations of Brown, as you do now, Jared. However, while track record can often be valuable in projecting the future, it does not necessarily portend the future. Brown was impressing the likes of Trevor Pryce before his (Brown's) injury. Moreover, a couple of his injuries, such as his foot and more recently his elbow, was inflicted with such force that it would have injured anybody.

You did manage to calm some of my effervescence regarding Brown, but I now prefer to wait and see what he does for us. Assuming fate smiles upon him and he can finally stay healthy for a season, he and Pryce may form something special at DE this year.

BTW, welcome back from your little sabbatical.

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I believe thay will. If you listen to Nalen, a well respected offensive lineman for the Broncos, you will hear him say that Warren and Myers are very hard to block. This coming from a Pro Bowler. You get the two of them doubled, or one of them doubled, and Pryce doubled, Brown is going to go off this year with sacks.

Some want to down play our off season pick ups, but thats okay. They all have the potential to be un-stopable.