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Skywalker
09-07-2005, 03:13 PM
This is the Official Mock Draft thread. please submit your mock drafts in this thread thorughout the college and NFL season.





(Note: I will do a mock draft later...Im not very good at them though. thats why I made a thread for everyone to make one.)

Skywalker
09-15-2005, 07:33 PM
MUG and OhNo.....I would really like to see a mock draft by you two.







(this is my 1,000 post)

jletourneau
09-15-2005, 07:43 PM
I love mock drafts and all, in fact, I can hardly wait for draft season to come around. But mock drafts are difficult enough to predict when you have the draft order, without that, what will you speculate on.

You could predict every teams individual record I suppose after this one week, then break down a bunch of prospects who are one or two games into the season, but I don't see it adding much to any draft discussions yet. There just wouldn't be any validity.

The team we predict to get the 3rd pick in the draft could end up with the 30th, and vice versa, yet both teams probably have totally different needs.

While I love the idea of diving head first into draft activity and speculation and commend you for your zeal regarding the subject, it is not something that will take us very far after one week of the respective college or professional seasons.

Skywalker
09-15-2005, 08:09 PM
I love mock drafts and all, in fact, I can hardly wait for draft season to come around. But mock drafts are difficult enough to predict when you have the draft order, without that, what will you speculate on.

You could predict every teams individual record I suppose after this one week, then break down a bunch of prospects who are one or two games into the season, but I don't see it adding much to any draft discussions yet. There just wouldn't be any validity.

The team we predict to get the 3rd pick in the draft could end up with the 30th, and vice versa, yet both teams probably have totally different needs.

While I love the idea of diving head first into draft activity and speculation and commend you for your zeal regarding the subject, it is not something that will take us very far after one week of the respective college or professional seasons.


I know its early....but I think early mock drafts are interesting. and they will change over the season of course....its not like someone can only submitt one mock draft in this thread....

Mat'hir Uth Gan
09-16-2005, 01:50 PM
MUG and OhNo.....I would really like to see a mock draft by you two.







(this is my 1,000 post)


Holy smokes, ok, I'll take a random shot in the dark.

Well, first things first, lets predict the NFL drafting order (gads!).

1. Cleveland Browns (3-13)
2. Tennessee Titans (3-13)
3. San Francisco 49ers (4-12)
4. Chicago Bears (4-12)
5. Miami Dolphins (5-11)
6. New York Giants (6-10)
7. Green Bay Packers (6-10)
8. Houston Texans (7-9)
9. Washington Redskins (7-9) (Denver's pick)
10. Oakland Raiders (7-9)
11. Buffalo Bills (7-9)
12. Arizona Cadinals (8-8)
13. Denver Broncos (8-8)
14. New Orleans Saints (8-8)
15. Detroit Lions (9-7)
16. New York Jets (9-7) (Oakland's pick)
17. Carolina Panthers (9-7)
18. San Diego Chargers (9-7)
19. Cincinatti Bengals (9-7)
20. Seattle Seahawks (10-6)
21. Baltimore Ravens (10-6) - AFC Wildcard
22. Dallas Cowboys (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
24. Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - AFC Wildcard
25. Pittsburgh Steelers (11-5) - AFC North Champs
26. Atlanta Falcons (11-5) - NFC South - Champs
27. Minnesota Vikings (11-5) - NFC North Champs
28. Kansas City Chiefs (12-4) - AFC West Champs
29. St. Louis Rams (12-4) - NFC West Champs
30. New England Patriots (13-3) - AFC East Champs
31. Philidelphia Eagles (13-3) - NFC East Champs, NFC Champs
32. Indianapolis Colts (14-2) - AFC SouthChamps, AFCChamps,SuperbowlChamps


Ok, now lets do a mock draft.

1. Browns - D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT) - Virginia
2. Titans - Mathias Kiwanuka (DE) - Boston College
3. 49ers - Haloti Ngata (DT) - Oregon
4. Bears - AJ Hawk (LB) - Ohio State
5. Dolphins - Omar Jacobs (QB) - Bowling Green
6. Giants - Rodrique Wright (DT) - Texas
7. Packers - Ahmad Brooks (LB) - Virginia
8. Texans - Johnathon Scott (OT) - Texas
9. Broncos - Mario Williams (DE) - North Carolina State
10. Raiders - Devon Hester (CB) - Miami
11. Bills - Mercedes Lewis (TE) - UCLA
12. Cardinals - Matt Leinart (QB) - USC
13. Broncos - Eric Winston (OT) - Miami
14. Saints - Marcus McNeil (OT) - Auburn
15. Lions - Vince Young (QB) - Texas
16. Raiders - Darnell Bing (S) - USC
17. Panthers - Gabe Watson (DT) - Michigan
18. Chargers - Jason Allen (CB/S) - Tennessee
19. Bengals - Orion Harris (DT) - Miami
20. Seahawks - Chad Greenway (LB) - Iowa
21. Ravens - Reggie Bush (RB) - USC
22. Cowboys - Babatunde Oshinowo (NT) - Stanford
23. Buccaneers - Andrew Whitworth (OT) - LSU
24. Jaguars - Laurence Maroney (RB) - Minnesota
25. Steelers - Lendale White (RB) - USC
26. Falcons - Derek Hagan (WR) - Arizona State
27. Vikings - Greg Eslinger (OC) - Minnesota
28. Chiefs - Todd Watkins (WR) - BYU
29. Rams - Nate Salley (S) - Ohio State
30. Patriots - William Blackmon (CB) - Boston College
31. Eagles - Martin Nance (WR) - Marshall
32. Colts - Jeremy Trueblood (OT) - Boston College

Perry1977
09-16-2005, 02:31 PM
Great work, Mat. :beer:

BroncoBailey024
09-16-2005, 02:45 PM
not bad but no way rams make to nfc championship game :coffee:

Charlie Brown
09-16-2005, 06:57 PM
No way in hell are the Browns only winning 3 games.

That would tie for the worst ever in franchise history ( minus the 1999 season )and this team is nowhere near that bad.

Buff_bronc_fan
09-17-2005, 02:38 PM
Holy smokes, ok, I'll take a random shot in the dark.

Well, first things first, lets predict the NFL drafting order (gads!).



Obviously I have some things I would dispute, but props for even trying at this stage in the season. CP comin your way.

Skywalker
09-19-2005, 04:59 PM
Holy smokes, ok, I'll take a random shot in the dark.

Well, first things first, lets predict the NFL drafting order (gads!).

1. Cleveland Browns (3-13)
2. Tennessee Titans (3-13)
3. San Francisco 49ers (4-12)
4. Chicago Bears (4-12)
5. Miami Dolphins (5-11)
6. New York Giants (6-10)
7. Green Bay Packers (6-10)
8. Houston Texans (7-9)
9. Washington Redskins (7-9) (Denver's pick)
10. Oakland Raiders (7-9)
11. Buffalo Bills (7-9)
12. Arizona Cadinals (8-8)
13. Denver Broncos (8-8)
14. New Orleans Saints (8-8)
15. Detroit Lions (9-7)
16. New York Jets (9-7) (Oakland's pick)
17. Carolina Panthers (9-7)
18. San Diego Chargers (9-7)
19. Cincinatti Bengals (9-7)
20. Seattle Seahawks (10-6)
21. Baltimore Ravens (10-6) - AFC Wildcard
22. Dallas Cowboys (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
24. Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - AFC Wildcard
25. Pittsburgh Steelers (11-5) - AFC North Champs
26. Atlanta Falcons (11-5) - NFC South - Champs
27. Minnesota Vikings (11-5) - NFC North Champs
28. Kansas City Chiefs (12-4) - AFC West Champs
29. St. Louis Rams (12-4) - NFC West Champs
30. New England Patriots (13-3) - AFC East Champs
31. Philidelphia Eagles (13-3) - NFC East Champs, NFC Champs
32. Indianapolis Colts (14-2) - AFC SouthChamps, AFCChamps,SuperbowlChamps


Ok, now lets do a mock draft.

1. Browns - D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT) - Virginia
2. Titans - Mathias Kiwanuka (DE) - Boston College
3. 49ers - Haloti Ngata (DT) - Oregon
4. Bears - AJ Hawk (LB) - Ohio State
5. Dolphins - Omar Jacobs (QB) - Bowling Green
6. Giants - Rodrique Wright (DT) - Texas
7. Packers - Ahmad Brooks (LB) - Virginia
8. Texans - Johnathon Scott (OT) - Texas
9. Broncos - Mario Williams (DE) - North Carolina State
10. Raiders - Devon Hester (CB) - Miami
11. Bills - Mercedes Lewis (TE) - UCLA
12. Cardinals - Matt Leinart (QB) - USC
13. Broncos - Eric Winston (OT) - Miami
14. Saints - Marcus McNeil (OT) - Auburn
15. Lions - Vince Young (QB) - Texas
16. Raiders - Darnell Bing (S) - USC
17. Panthers - Gabe Watson (DT) - Michigan
18. Chargers - Jason Allen (CB/S) - Tennessee
19. Bengals - Orion Harris (DT) - Miami
20. Seahawks - Chad Greenway (LB) - Iowa
21. Ravens - Reggie Bush (RB) - USC
22. Cowboys - Babatunde Oshinowo (NT) - Stanford
23. Buccaneers - Andrew Whitworth (OT) - LSU
24. Jaguars - Laurence Maroney (RB) - Minnesota
25. Steelers - Lendale White (RB) - USC
26. Falcons - Derek Hagan (WR) - Arizona State
27. Vikings - Greg Eslinger (OC) - Minnesota
28. Chiefs - Todd Watkins (WR) - BYU
29. Rams - Nate Salley (S) - Ohio State
30. Patriots - William Blackmon (CB) - Boston College
31. Eagles - Martin Nance (WR) - Marshall
32. Colts - Jeremy Trueblood (OT) - Boston College



great work .....and im givin u a CP...


but where the heck is DeAngelo Williams? he's gonna be the first back taken...

Skywalker
09-20-2005, 07:24 PM
Here are some mock drafts I found.





http://condraft.com/mock.php?r=1 - this is a pretty good mock draft...but I do not agree with us taking LeRon Landry over Darnell Bing.



http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2006.php




http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html



http://football.about.com/cs/nfldraft/a/bl_mockdraft.htm



http://huddlegeeks.com/NFL_Draft/2006/mock2006.htm



http://www.draftboardinsider.com/mock/2006.html



http://www.widewordofsports.com/Articles/Scott-2005/Articles-441.htm



http://heardsfootballreport.com/mockdraft.html

Jack Luminous
09-20-2005, 09:43 PM
Holy smokes, ok, I'll take a random shot in the dark.

Well, first things first, lets predict the NFL drafting order (gads!).

1. Cleveland Browns (3-13)
2. Tennessee Titans (3-13)
3. San Francisco 49ers (4-12)
4. Chicago Bears (4-12)
5. Miami Dolphins (5-11)
6. New York Giants (6-10)
7. Green Bay Packers (6-10)
8. Houston Texans (7-9)
9. Washington Redskins (7-9) (Denver's pick)
10. Oakland Raiders (7-9)
11. Buffalo Bills (7-9)
12. Arizona Cadinals (8-8)
13. Denver Broncos (8-8)
14. New Orleans Saints (8-8)
15. Detroit Lions (9-7)
16. New York Jets (9-7) (Oakland's pick)
17. Carolina Panthers (9-7)
18. San Diego Chargers (9-7)
19. Cincinatti Bengals (9-7)
20. Seattle Seahawks (10-6)
21. Baltimore Ravens (10-6) - AFC Wildcard
22. Dallas Cowboys (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
24. Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - AFC Wildcard
25. Pittsburgh Steelers (11-5) - AFC North Champs
26. Atlanta Falcons (11-5) - NFC South - Champs
27. Minnesota Vikings (11-5) - NFC North Champs
28. Kansas City Chiefs (12-4) - AFC West Champs
29. St. Louis Rams (12-4) - NFC West Champs
30. New England Patriots (13-3) - AFC East Champs
31. Philidelphia Eagles (13-3) - NFC East Champs, NFC Champs
32. Indianapolis Colts (14-2) - AFC SouthChamps, AFCChamps,SuperbowlChamps


Ok, now lets do a mock draft.

1. Browns - D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT) - Virginia
2. Titans - Mathias Kiwanuka (DE) - Boston College
3. 49ers - Haloti Ngata (DT) - Oregon
4. Bears - AJ Hawk (LB) - Ohio State
5. Dolphins - Omar Jacobs (QB) - Bowling Green
6. Giants - Rodrique Wright (DT) - Texas
7. Packers - Ahmad Brooks (LB) - Virginia
8. Texans - Johnathon Scott (OT) - Texas
9. Broncos - Mario Williams (DE) - North Carolina State
10. Raiders - Devon Hester (CB) - Miami
11. Bills - Mercedes Lewis (TE) - UCLA
12. Cardinals - Matt Leinart (QB) - USC
13. Broncos - Eric Winston (OT) - Miami
14. Saints - Marcus McNeil (OT) - Auburn
15. Lions - Vince Young (QB) - Texas
16. Raiders - Darnell Bing (S) - USC
17. Panthers - Gabe Watson (DT) - Michigan
18. Chargers - Jason Allen (CB/S) - Tennessee
19. Bengals - Orion Harris (DT) - Miami
20. Seahawks - Chad Greenway (LB) - Iowa
21. Ravens - Reggie Bush (RB) - USC
22. Cowboys - Babatunde Oshinowo (NT) - Stanford
23. Buccaneers - Andrew Whitworth (OT) - LSU
24. Jaguars - Laurence Maroney (RB) - Minnesota
25. Steelers - Lendale White (RB) - USC
26. Falcons - Derek Hagan (WR) - Arizona State
27. Vikings - Greg Eslinger (OC) - Minnesota
28. Chiefs - Todd Watkins (WR) - BYU
29. Rams - Nate Salley (S) - Ohio State
30. Patriots - William Blackmon (CB) - Boston College
31. Eagles - Martin Nance (WR) - Marshall
32. Colts - Jeremy Trueblood (OT) - Boston College


Not bad for a shot in the dark.....we'll have to keep this around and see how many actually become first rounders....

The only thing glaring to me is that I think it's relatively certain Matt Leinhart and Reggie Bush will likely go 1-2 in the Draft (barring major injury, off course), then again, who knows...


BTW, is the Olsen-kid QB from UCLA on anyone's radar yet?

OhNoKoolAid
09-21-2005, 03:36 PM
To be honest with you Mat'hir, Kiwanuka will not go in the top three. Sorry, but I just don't see it. Even most draft guru's believe he's being hyped up a little too much. Most think 6-10 is where he'll end up.

I won't do a full mock draft, (although I had a while ago) but I will give you a draft of who I think Denver should take with their picks. (Not including compensatory that we will get for sure!)

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1a) Mario Williams, DE - NCST

1b) Johnathon Scott, OT - Texas

2) Greg Eslinger, C - Minnesota

3) BPA at Wide Receiver, Running Back or DT

4a) Justin London, ILB - UCLA

4b) Roman Harper, S - Alabama

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The only reach is Greg Eslinger from Minnesota. It's rare that centers go in the first round, but he's perhaps one of the best talents coming out in the past decade or so. I really like this guy, so that's why I had us taking him in round two.

As for the third rounder, Manny Lawson, James Wyche and Eric Henderson are possible DE's available.

No matter what people say, Orien Harris could slip into the third round. I currently see five defensive tackles ahead of him at this point in the draft.

Le Kevin Smith is also worth a look here. Not to mention a few running backs or wide receivers if Bell or Watts do absolutely nothing this year. :coffee:

Eric Henderson is this year's Justin Tuck. I expect him to go round two at this point, and relatively early, pass rushers with adequate size are always in high demand. As for Manny Lawson, his listed size is far from accurate if you look at him. He also doesn't play to his "timed speed" if it is indeed around 4.5-ish. He looks to me like a tweener, and likely will go the way of Jonathan Welsh. Wyche is a solid left end prospect with good size and playing strength. I don't think he fits a pass rushing mold, but could be a solid eight sack guy at his peak. This is all from early speculation of course, and does stand to change.

As far as middle round picks go, I am currently high on Jay Cutler, QB of Vandy. He looks like a real sleeper and seems to have the necessary package to play in the NFL. I think he's better than Charlie Frye, but fits that mold as clipboard to starter type draft pick. If you get a chance, check this guy out. Southerners, watch for Vandy on Jefferson Pilot...

OhNoKoolAid
09-21-2005, 08:27 PM
These projections are as of right now, if the draft was held today, some players stocks will fall, others will rise, some will stay the same. Just speculating.

About Lawson, he has the size to add something to his frame. I'm not sure, but I believe he's at about 6'5 - 250 right now. I think he's a little too tall for a linebacker in a 4-3 scheme, but could be a possible fit for a team who is looking for a pass rusher in the 3-4. (Obviously used as a linebacker) However, I do feel that he CAN and WILL add bulk to his frame. I think he's drafted as a DE and used as a DE in the pro's. When most DE's in college are considered tweeners and make the move to linebacker, it's usually due to lack of ideal height. If this kid could put on some weight, I think he'd do well.

But yeah, Eric Henderson is one of my favorite on-the-rise guys as of now. If we pass up Kiwanuka or Mario Williams, (I'm having a hard time believing we'll be able to get them now, if we play well and the 'Skins do) I would love drafting Eric in the second. But as of now, I believe he's a 3rd rounder, but definitely will rise because GM's and teams covet players like that.

As for Wyche, I do agree. Projected as a LE, I think he'll go to a team with serious needs at stopping the run. I wouldn't mind him getting drafted here, as I'm still not sold on the Browncos, the age of our lineman other than him and not too sure how Pryce will play the rest of the year.

As for Cutler, yeah man. I've seen him a few times and have read up about him. I believe he's the #3 Senior Quarterback elligible for this draft. He'd be #4 if Jacobs came out, behind him, Leinart and McNeal. Personally, I wouldn't doubt the ability for Cutler or a guy like Whitehurst to sneak up into the first and make up for a QB scenario like we saw a few years ago.

But yeah, that was my mock for now. I'd be very pleased if it happened, heck if we grabbed one of those players I'd be thrilled.

Cutler is a mere blip on the radars of the thngs I've read, but we'll see when my favorite source PFW sends me my copy of their prospect book. These guys are almost always on the money with early projections as far as seniors and rankings go. I do think Cutler will rise, and be a first day guy. I am a Whitehurst fan as well, and beleive he has all the physical tools to be an NFL starter. My OB rankings at the moment are:

Leinart
Jacobs
Whitehurst
Cutler
McNeal

And then it is muddled after that. I put Whitehurst over Cutler because of his physical tools, but would be pleased to have either as a seond or thir round pick at this moment. Should Vince Young and Chris Leak enter the fray with Brad Smith and Darrell Hackney, guys like Cutler could fall a bit further. I don't care for any of the QBs outside my top four at the moment, but that could always change.

As for Lawson, I read that he is playing closer to 235-240 at the moment. I think he is more of a 3-4 end in the mold of Ware, but we'll see. Lawson will be a combine guy. If he tests well, and his measurables check out okay, he could skyrocket, if not, than he's a dime a dozen end.

I also like several guys in the corner market. Zemaitis and Williams both have the size to compete in the AFC West, as does Jason Allen. all three could also try safety, as Williams has done before. Griffin and Huff of Texas are also bigger prospects with safety experience. Even though we took three last season, you can never be without quality cover men. If we're picking late in the first, perhaps one of the Texas guys would be a good choice, and move them to safety.