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WABronco
12-29-2005, 10:05 PM
Nice toss, brother of that wretched Ryan Leaf...

So much for the Pac-10 garnering respect. Cal last year, and now Oregon this year...

That was an exciting end though, no doubt.

DAMN, that Dennis Dixon guy is F-A-S-T! Whitehead looks like a solid prospect, but Demetrius Williams reminds me too much of Ashley Lelie. I didn't catch the whole game, but from that game and the few I saw when they played UW, he's basically a clone of the present-day Ashley Lelie. That's just the impression I got though...

I wouldn't be mad if we took him though in the 2-3 rounds.

Hope Ngata's ok, that looked bad for a sec...

Look out for Jonathan Stewart (Oregon's Freshman RB), I believe he was a top-recruit in the NW. Malcolm Kelly looked awfully good too...

chickennob2
12-29-2005, 10:11 PM
But Leaf got some major help from the refs. The ball on a lob lands 5 yards outside the endzone, the ball is uncatchable. plain and simple. horrible call.

mrsolo
12-29-2005, 10:22 PM
Nice toss, brother of that wretched Ryan Leaf...

So much for the Pac-10 garnering respect. Cal last year, and now Oregon this year...

That was an exciting end though, no doubt.

DAMN, that Dennis Dixon guy is F-A-S-T! Whitehead looks like a solid prospect, but Demetrius Williams reminds me too much of Ashley Lelie. I didn't catch the whole game, but from that game and the few I saw when they played UW, he's basically a clone of the present-day Ashley Lelie. That's just the impression I got though...

I wouldn't be mad if we took him though in the 2-3 rounds.

Hope Ngata's ok, that looked bad for a sec...

Look out for Jonathan Stewart (Oregon's Freshman RB), I believe he was a top-recruit in the NW. Malcolm Kelly looked awfully good too...

What, no love for the Sooners that just beat the Ducks and gave the Big XII a 3 - 1 record in bowls?

How about Dusty Dvoracek blowing up the middle of Oregon's o-line all night? CJ Ah You in the QB's face. Clint Ingram's leaping interception to seal the win. :confused:

OhNoKoolAid
12-29-2005, 10:26 PM
What, no love for the Sooners that just beat the Ducks and gave the Big XII a 3 - 1 record in bowls?

How about Dusty Dvoracek blowing up the middle of Oregon's o-line all night? CJ Ah You in the QB's face. Clint Ingram's leaping interception to seal the win. :confused:

You give Dvoracek too much credit.

I'll hold my Peterson comments for another day, but asking an honest question without any strings or traps, do you believe that Bomar can be a championship-caliber QB?

I'd like to here the thoughts of a diehard OU fan on this subject, and mrsolo may be the best to give an honest answer to this.


P.S. Where did you guys find an edge rush? You haven't shown that pass rushing ability all season!

DrunkPanda
12-29-2005, 10:30 PM
But Leaf got some major help from the refs. The ball on a lob lands 5 yards outside the endzone, the ball is uncatchable. plain and simple. horrible call.
horrible call with 2 meanings. why the **** wouldn't you kick the easy field goal? you need one anyway and if you don't convert on 4th down, game is over. they didn't convert, game should have been over right then but refs wanted to prolong the game.
there seems to be a trend going........ BSU is down big, they drive down field, ruin an awesome comeback with an interception........... Oregon is down big, they drive down field, ruin an awesome comeback with an interception............. i hope this keeps happening. it's exciting. except i wanted both BSU and Oregon to win :ugh:

OhNoKoolAid
12-29-2005, 10:32 PM
Nice toss, brother of that wretched Ryan Leaf...

So much for the Pac-10 garnering respect. Cal last year, and now Oregon this year...

That was an exciting end though, no doubt.

DAMN, that Dennis Dixon guy is F-A-S-T! Whitehead looks like a solid prospect, but Demetrius Williams reminds me too much of Ashley Lelie. I didn't catch the whole game, but from that game and the few I saw when they played UW, he's basically a clone of the present-day Ashley Lelie. That's just the impression I got though...

I wouldn't be mad if we took him though in the 2-3 rounds.

Hope Ngata's ok, that looked bad for a sec...

Look out for Jonathan Stewart (Oregon's Freshman RB), I believe he was a top-recruit in the NW. Malcolm Kelly looked awfully good too...

Dual QBs stink. Dixon was doing just fine, and the first switch killed all moment Oregon may have created in the first quarter. The offensive gameplan and play calling is great for Oregon otherwise, but dual QBs will never work. As Colin Cowherd of ESPN radio always says, "No head coach wants dual head coaches, so why play two QBs..."

WABronco
12-29-2005, 10:38 PM
What, no love for the Sooners that just beat the Ducks and gave the Big XII a 3 - 1 record in bowls?

How about Dusty Dvoracek blowing up the middle of Oregon's o-line all night? CJ Ah You in the QB's face. Clint Ingram's leaping interception to seal the win. :confused:

Ok, ok, you got me...

Oklahoma didn't look like an unranked team tonight, that's for sure. Their D was flyin around, and Adrian's just a flat out beast. Guhh, what I would do to get him in the Orange and Blue...HEY, that rhymes! Bomar looked solid, and Malcom Kelly looks like a stud.

Mr. T
12-30-2005, 12:05 AM
Normally, I'd cheer on an athlete from Montana when he makes it as far as the Leafs have gone.

But there's the problem...they're the damn Leafs.

I'm glad to see Brady blow it tonight. He was a jerk in high school, just like his brother. So HAHAH, LEAFS! GREAT FALLS DON'T LIKE YOU EITHER! :P

As for my Sooners...I think this game was definitely good for the team. The offense is a very young group of guys, and I think that with how far Bomar and company have come compared to where they were earlier in the year, the Sooners will be headed back in the right direction next year. Not that this year was TERRIBLE...just not good by OU standards, hehe.

mrsolo
12-30-2005, 07:33 AM
You give Dvoracek too much credit.

I'll hold my Peterson comments for another day, but asking an honest question without any strings or traps, do you believe that Bomar can be a championship-caliber QB?

I'd like to here the thoughts of a diehard OU fan on this subject, and mrsolo may be the best to give an honest answer to this.


P.S. Where did you guys find an edge rush? You haven't shown that pass rushing ability all season!

How can you say I give Dvoracek too much credit? I know you seem to do a lot of research on college football, so I respect your opinion. But Dusty has been in opponents backfields ALL YEAR LONG. He might not be on Ngata's level, but he's not that far behind. He's got nothing but praise from coaches all year long...other teams' coaches. His only hangup really is his foot speed, although he'll make good hustle plays because he doesn't give up.

As far as Bomar goes, yes, I think he can be a championship caliber QB. Why? Look at his progress and maturity from the beginning of the season to the end(minus the overexcited spike at the end of the game last night). He's definitely shown the ability to handle pressure, and he's showing more and more poise every time he steps on the field. His accuracy has improved about 100% from earlier in the year. Finally, he's just plain tough.

I'm very interested in your Peterson comments. I think he runs harder than any back I've seen in a while, but he's still too careless with the ball.

mrsolo
12-30-2005, 07:43 AM
You give Dvoracek too much credit.

I'll hold my Peterson comments for another day, but asking an honest question without any strings or traps, do you believe that Bomar can be a championship-caliber QB?

I'd like to here the thoughts of a diehard OU fan on this subject, and mrsolo may be the best to give an honest answer to this.


P.S. Where did you guys find an edge rush? You haven't shown that pass rushing ability all season!

Oh yeah, about the pass rush. We had about 45 sacks coming into the game. That's not too bad. Thibadeaux had 9 coming in by himself, and CJ Ah You has been in the QB's face most of the season.

plummer4presdnt
12-30-2005, 11:05 AM
He did so much better than that horrible QB Dixon. he almost led them back and a few inches higher it would have been 6. I was so sorry for them to come back like that and fall, its jsut so much harder.

rcsodak
12-30-2005, 11:37 AM
You give Dvoracek too much credit.

I'll hold my Peterson comments for another day, but asking an honest question without any strings or traps, do you believe that Bomar can be a championship-caliber QB?

I'd like to here the thoughts of a diehard OU fan on this subject, and mrsolo may be the best to give an honest answer to this.


P.S. Where did you guys find an edge rush? You haven't shown that pass rushing ability all season!
I think it was 'found' during the last scrimmage of the year.........











........against the OSU cowgirls.

Bomar will be a top 10 QB by the time he ends his career.
He's bright, athletic and has the drive of a train.

I don't know what other qualities is needed?

rcsodak
12-30-2005, 11:46 AM
Oh yeah, about the pass rush. We had about 45 sacks coming into the game. That's not too bad. Thibadeaux had 9 coming in by himself, and CJ Ah You has been in the QB's face most of the season.

That question cracked me up.
NE led the country by what? 3 sacks? :rolleyes:

Plus, losing Birdine before the year started, sure didn't help.

But all of this "next year OU will be great" talk is a little premature, imo.

Last night, the starting Oline consisted of 4 SENIORS and a soph.

Wilson better start doing his best coaching EVER, starting now.

DrunkPanda
12-30-2005, 01:26 PM
horrible call with 2 meanings. why the **** wouldn't you kick the easy field goal? you need one anyway and if you don't convert on 4th down, game is over. they didn't convert, game should have been over right then but refs wanted to prolong the game.
there seems to be a trend going........ BSU is down big, they drive down field, ruin an awesome comeback with an interception........... Oregon is down big, they drive down field, ruin an awesome comeback with an interception............. i hope this keeps happening. it's exciting. except i wanted both BSU and Oregon to win :ugh:
wow. and the trend continues with the minnesota game. you know what's even more odd? ALL the interceptions have been on terribly thrown balls, not good defensive plays

OhNoKoolAid
12-30-2005, 02:39 PM
That question cracked me up.
NE led the country by what? 3 sacks? :rolleyes:

Plus, losing Birdine before the year started, sure didn't help.

But all of this "next year OU will be great" talk is a little premature, imo.

Last night, the starting Oline consisted of 4 SENIORS and a soph.

Wilson better start doing his best coaching EVER, starting now.

Against above average competition, you guys generated very little pass rush, just look at the TCU, UCLA and Texas games, especially UCLA, where the team looked as if it was constantly running into a brick wall. You guys piled up numbers against Nebraska, Kansas State and A&M, all three struggled to protect the quarterback consistently this year. Being OU fans, you should know that more is expected of the talent when it matters. I'll leave it at that.

As for your line next year, it should be okay at the tackle position, since those two freshman played extensively and looked pretty good in the middle of the season. Your inside will be the question to be answered in the spring.

As for Bomar, I just don't see the same big things from him. His decision making and leadership qualities aren't up to par with what should be expected of a big time programs QB. Oklahoma made their run last night when they took the ball out of his hands, turning it over to the running game. You just listen to interviews and watch how they handle him and you can see that the capacity to run the system on his own may not be there. He still has no internal clock, which every wise QB has, for sensing pressure and understanding outlets, and I'll chalk that up to inexperience for now. Still, I have not seen the progress you guys speak of, and I'm concerned that he won't be able to handle the pressure of running that team if things start slow again next year. Physical tools appear to be okay, but Josh Huepel may need to transplant his brain into Bomar's if he is to become the leader of OU next championship team.

You guys played great last night, but remember, you were two inches away (twice) from having questions abound about this team's capabilities to be good asked all off season. Two inches...

rcsodak
12-30-2005, 06:50 PM
Against above average competition, you guys generated very little pass rush, just look at the TCU, UCLA and Texas games, especially UCLA, where the team looked as if it was constantly running into a brick wall. You guys piled up numbers against Nebraska, Kansas State and A&M, all three struggled to protect the quarterback consistently this year. Being OU fans, you should know that more is expected of the talent when it matters. I'll leave it at that.

As for your line next year, it should be okay at the tackle position, since those two freshman played extensively and looked pretty good in the middle of the season. Your inside will be the question to be answered in the spring.

As for Bomar, I just don't see the same big things from him. His decision making and leadership qualities aren't up to par with what should be expected of a big time programs QB. Oklahoma made their run last night when they took the ball out of his hands, turning it over to the running game. You just listen to interviews and watch how they handle him and you can see that the capacity to run the system on his own may not be there. He still has no internal clock, which every wise QB has, for sensing pressure and understanding outlets, and I'll chalk that up to inexperience for now. Still, I have not seen the progress you guys speak of, and I'm concerned that he won't be able to handle the pressure of running that team if things start slow again next year. Physical tools appear to be okay, but Josh Huepel may need to transplant his brain into Bomar's if he is to become the leader of OU next championship team.

You guys played great last night, but remember, you were two inches away (twice) from having questions abound about this team's capabilities to be good asked all off season. Two inches...
Was Oregon NOT #6 BCS?
Were they NOT one of the highest scoring teams in the NCAA?
Did they NOT have one of the best pass D's in the NCAA?

How 'bout the cowgirls' bowl? How'd THEY look?

I think you're just unable to see any positives from OU.

That's fine.

But don't just make negative points out of positive outcomes.....

.....you sound like somebody else on the boards. :coffee:

OhNoKoolAid
12-30-2005, 07:04 PM
Was Oregon NOT #6 BCS?
Were they NOT one of the highest scoring teams in the NCAA?
Did they NOT have one of the best pass D's in the NCAA?

How 'bout the cowgirls' bowl? How'd THEY look?

I think you're just unable to see any positives from OU.

That's fine.

But don't just make negative points out of positive outcomes.....

.....you sound like somebody else on the boards. :coffee:

As a former season ticket holder, I can say several positives. Unlike someone else, I don't get hyper-defensive when someone speaks about "my team". Regardless, I'll be at Tulsa Law School within a year, so you can bag me about them too, since you assume I only speak on loyalties and allegiances to certain teams. You probably would expect me to start hating on the Cowboys then, actually.

I give little credence to what you have to say about the subject anyways. I have no strong ties to any team, but some of you can't take any criticism whatsover without getting defensive. If you weren't so close to the situation, you may understand what I try to convey in my comments.

Besides, puting me in MUG's company ain't half bad, when you consider the level of intelligence he brings to the board, without always having to give sarcastic remarks about every poster without arguing the subject, "like somebody else on the boards..."

I'm here to argue on topics of football, and don't intend to make anything personal, but if you are so "loyal" to a team that you take comments about them personal, you need to level off. I've had good relations with you on the board thus far, we don't need to get touchy over something this petty...

rcsodak
12-30-2005, 11:25 PM
As a former season ticket holder, I can say several positives. Unlike someone else, I don't get hyper-defensive when someone speaks about "my team". Regardless, I'll be at Tulsa Law School within a year, so you can bag me about them too, since you assume I only speak on loyalties and allegiances to certain teams. You probably would expect me to start hating on the Cowboys then, actually.

I give little credence to what you have to say about the subject anyways. I have no strong ties to any team, but some of you can't take any criticism whatsover without getting defensive. If you weren't so close to the situation, you may understand what I try to convey in my comments.

Besides, puting me in MUG's company ain't half bad, when you consider the level of intelligence he brings to the board, without always having to give sarcastic remarks about every poster without arguing the subject, "like somebody else on the boards..."

I'm here to argue on topics of football, and don't intend to make anything personal, but if you are so "loyal" to a team that you take comments about them personal, you need to level off. I've had good relations with you on the board thus far, we don't need to get touchy over something this petty...
Ummmm....I wasn't relating the "somebody" to MUG. :P

And when was the last time you had anything POSITIVE to say about OU?
And why not answer my points?
Is NOT beating the #6, 1-loss team impressive enough for you?

I realize you don't put much credence into the bowl games, and that's fine.
But I happen to know that the players believe it's the time to shine for the entire country.
As well as for scouts.
It's the start of their jump into the next level, which is the main reason they're playing in the first place.

You're going to school to be a lawyer. They're going to school to be Professional Football Players. That's their dream.
For those that aren't good enough for that next level, they can always hang their hat on playing in a bowl game.

Nick7
12-31-2005, 11:17 AM
Was Oregon NOT #6 BCS?
Were they NOT one of the highest scoring teams in the NCAA?
Did they NOT have one of the best pass D's in the NCAA?

How 'bout the cowgirls' bowl? How'd THEY look?

I think you're just unable to see any positives from OU.

That's fine.

But don't just make negative points out of positive outcomes.....

.....you sound like somebody else on the boards. :coffee:


Yes, they were #6, they didn't have Clemens, but you still played a great team and got a great win. However, no they didn't have one of the best Passing D's, unless 71st is one of the best. All in all, you guys played great even after getting hosed on the fake FG, but the outcome might of been different if they had their starting QB, but hey, aren't good teams supposed to be able to play through injuries?