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MindField
01-06-2006, 03:06 PM
I would not be disappointed with something like the following Day One Draft:

EDIT: AW, WTF, I 'll do the whole Draft...

1) (From Wash) Best pass rush DE available.
Our No. 1 priority remains to get a big time pass rusher. Too early to know who that might be as yet, although Penn St.'s Tamba Hali would be ideal. But that is probably wishful thinking.

1) OT Daryn Colledge - Boise St. 6'6"-308
I think Lepsis will be back next season, but at 31, Lepsis may only have a couple of premium years left. For Colledge, it would be the perfect scenario to learn from a seasoned vet, without the pressure to start now, as he will likely have a learning curve at LT in the NFL. Colledge looks like the perfect Bronco lineman, and once he takes over could be the starting LT for the next decade.

2) WR Greg Lee - Pitt 6'2"-200
My favorite WR in this Draft. I think this guy is a big time talent and a sleeper that should be around at the bottom of round two.

3) TE David Thomas, Texas 6'3"-250
In the National Championship game, I really grew to like this kid. Cut very much from the mold of Jay Novacek, Frank Wychek and Brent Jones, this kid was clutch. clearly was Vince Young's security blanket and helped to convert many key third downs. He has great hands, seems to understand how to find the soft spots behind the LB's, get open, and catch everything in sight....and to me, Putzier has been a Putz.

3) (Comp pick for K Kennedy **fingers crossed**) FB Lawrence Vickers, Colorado
6'1"-238
Living in Colorado, I have really grown to like this player. He is a kid who's future in the NFL is at FB, IMO, and he is also a good ST player. With Kyle Johnson likely having played himself into a big raise, he may look to greener pastures in FA once he gets his opportunity. The FB remains a key component for the Broncos running game, and Vickers reminds me of San Diego's Lorenzo Neal as a former College 'tweener' that has done time at both RB positons, but will likely transition into a full time FB. I also think he has more upside than Kyle Johnson.


4.) OG Mark Stetterstrom, Minnesota 6'3"-298
The U of Minnesota uses the same zone-blocking scheme Denver does, and this player reminds me of former Bronco OG Dan Neil. With Matt Lepsis contemplating Free Agency, and Tom Nalen perhaps playing out his career in Denver, depth on the O-line is critical for the Broncos.

5.) David Anderson Colorado St. 5'11"-195
Ricky Proehl, Part II. Enough said. Won't WOW anyone, but he is heady, solid and has great hands. Clutch , money player who is a killer on third down.

6.) RB Joseph Addai, LSU 6'0"-214
Shanahan always Drafts one, and Addai has been a tough, inside runner for the Tigers, and has a Champions pedigree. Ran for alot of tough yardage against my beloved Hurricanes in the Peach Bowl, when he always seemed to be converting key third downs.

7.) Traded to Carolina for Sauerbrun.

Take that Kiper! :beer:

:D

OhNoKoolAid
01-06-2006, 04:25 PM
Don't we have an extra round three pick from Washington anyways?

Overall, I'd take this. Colledge is a nice fit for our system, and Lee is good second round value. I think that tight end will be a pretty deep group that a better player than Thomas may be available, and since he's essentially an H-back, like Jeb, he'd have a hard time seeing the field. As an H-back, he's a fine receiver, though. I like Vickers quite a bit and wouldn't mind taking him, even if he is a tweener at several positions.

I'll tell you a player I think is worth drafting late round 2/ early round 3 is a player plummeting off the charts. I'd love to have an athlete like Devin Hester as an offensive specialist/jack-of-all-trades type player. Statistically, our kick return game was again around the bottom of the barrel, thanks to Williams becoming too valuable/injury prone, and Roc and Adams struggling to make things happen on kickoffs. Hester would thrive in a specialist role while learning to play wide receiver, and occasionally, as a third down back. If he really is as fast as he claims, and he plays like he is, he could be a matchup nightmare in the future. Hester even can fill in as a dime back if needed. I think we have a need for a player like Hester, or Will Blackmon, and since Hester has top ten athleticism, he tops my chart of athletes.

MindField
01-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Don't we have an extra round three pick from Washington anyways?

Overall, I'd take this. Colledge is a nice fit for our system, and Lee is good second round value. I think that tight end will be a pretty deep group that a better player than Thomas may be available, and since he's essentially an H-back, like Jeb, he'd have a hard time seeing the field. As an H-back, he's a fine receiver, though. I like Vickers quite a bit and wouldn't mind taking him, even if he is a tweener at several positions.

I'll tell you a player I think is worth drafting late round 2/ early round 3 is a player plummeting off the charts. I'd love to have an athlete like Devin Hester as an offensive specialist/jack-of-all-trades type player. Statistically, our kick return game was again around the bottom of the barrel, thanks to Williams becoming too valuable/injury prone, and Roc and Adams struggling to make things happen on kickoffs. Hester would thrive in a specialist role while learning to play wide receiver, and occasionally, as a third down back. If he really is as fast as he claims, and he plays like he is, he could be a matchup nightmare in the future. Hester even can fill in as a dime back if needed. I think we have a need for a player like Hester, or Will Blackmon, and since Hester has top ten athleticism, he tops my chart of athletes.

I agree, if Darrant Williams is going to be the full-time starter at CB, then we need another kick returner.

A player I am keeping my eye on as well is LSU's Skyler Green. If he can become a legit third option at WR and be the kick returner he looks like, he could be money.

Another player in this mix is Miami's Sinorice Moss. I think he will get a long look as a returner in the NFL as well.

jletourneau
01-06-2006, 05:50 PM
I like Vickers as well but I don't know that I see us drafting a FB.

Reason being, Kyle Johnson has played exceptionally well, and is underrated if anything. Cecil Sapp is a FB who can slide in at RB in a HUGE emergency and has filled in admirably at FB.

And mainly, I have it on a good source that Brandon Miree on the practice squad is someone Shanny seems to have plans for, and is biding his time on the practice squad before likely being given strong roster consideration for next year.

I don't see us with any more than 2 FB's on the active roster, and assuming Kyle Johnson is still the starter, I'm thinking Shanny is perfectly happy to decide between Sapp and Miree for the second spot.

I'd love to get Thomas, I'm a big fan, but I just don't know where for sure he fits if Shanny and Co. still have big plans for Duke, but that remains to be seen.

A pass rusher off the edge would be my top pick as well, and Colledge is a guy I would surely embrace for LT. He would fit in perfectly.

WABronco
01-06-2006, 05:54 PM
And mainly, I have it on a good source that Brandon Miree on the practice squad is someone Shanny seems to have plans for, and is biding his time on the practice squad before likely being given strong roster consideration for next year.

Sweet...

I thought somethin' was up when he chose to stay on the PS instead of signing with another team. Looks like he knows what's good for him...

WOW! Just checked his prospect file...

He ran a 4.42! Nice...

Anyways, he sounds like a legit power guy...

OhNoKoolAid
01-06-2006, 07:22 PM
I agree, if Darrant Williams is going to be the full-time starter at CB, then we need another kick returner.

A player I am keeping my eye on as well is LSU's Skyler Green. If he can become a legit third option at WR and be the kick returner he looks like, he could be money.

Another player in this mix is Miami's Sinorice Moss. I think he will get a long look as a returner in the NFL as well.

Skyler Green could be a good middle round commodity. His spring numbers that I've seen show average times for a player his size, so he may have a tough time sticking as a number three guy. Moss would be a better option as a receiver than both Hester and Green, but he may come at a higher price.

The thing overlooked about Hester is that he started the year off with turf toe, which is more serious than it sounds. Football Outsiders lists the injury as one of the worst possible injuries to occur in a season, alongside shoulder dislocations and ACL/MCL tears. Turf toe justs takes too long to heal and saps too much speed and quickness, but too many sports analysts write it off as a minor injury. That is why I put a little more credence into Hester's sophomore season, when he looked like a threat every time he had the ball. An offensive guru like Shanahan needs an ace in the hole like Hester, a track star with wiggle that can take it the distance from anywhere on the field. Outside of Reggie Bush, he may be the most explosive playmaker in the draft. Only problem is Hester's positionless and after his junior season, a bit unproven.

I'd put the players we've discussed in this order:
Hester
Blackmon
Moss
Green
(late second day; Willie Reed FSU)

TheChampion
01-07-2006, 12:29 AM
I would not be disappointed with something like the following Day One Draft:

EDIT: AW, WTF, I 'll do the whole Draft...

1) (From Wash) Best pass rush DE available.
Our No. 1 priority remains to get a big time pass rusher. Too early to know who that might be as yet, although Penn St.'s Tamba Hali would be ideal. But that is probably wishful thinking.

1) OT Daryn Colledge - Boise St. 6'6"-308
I think Lepsis will be back next season, but at 31, Lepsis may only have a couple of premium years left. For Colledge, it would be the perfect scenario to learn from a seasoned vet, without the pressure to start now, as he will likely have a learning curve at LT in the NFL. Colledge looks like the perfect Bronco lineman, and once he takes over could be the starting LT for the next decade.

2) WR Greg Lee - Pitt 6'2"-200
My favorite WR in this Draft. I think this guy is a big time talent and a sleeper that should be around at the bottom of round two.

3) TE David Thomas, Texas 6'3"-250
In the National Championship game, I really grew to like this kid. Cut very much from the mold of Jay Novacek, Frank Wychek and Brent Jones, this kid was clutch. clearly was Vince Young's security blanket and helped to convert many key third downs. He has great hands, seems to understand how to find the soft spots behind the LB's, get open, and catch everything in sight....and to me, Putzier has been a Putz.

3) (Comp pick for K Kennedy **fingers crossed**) FB Lawrence Vickers, Colorado
6'1"-238
Living in Colorado, I have really grown to like this player. He is a kid who's future in the NFL is at FB, IMO, and he is also a good ST player. With Kyle Johnson likely having played himself into a big raise, he may look to greener pastures in FA once he gets his opportunity. The FB remains a key component for the Broncos running game, and Vickers reminds me of San Diego's Lorenzo Neal as a former College 'tweener' that has done time at both RB positons, but will likely transition into a full time FB. I also think he has more upside than Kyle Johnson.


4.) OG Mark Stetterstrom, Minnesota 6'3"-298
The U of Minnesota uses the same zone-blocking scheme Denver does, and this player reminds me of former Bronco OG Dan Neil. With Matt Lepsis contemplating Free Agency, and Tom Nalen perhaps playing out his career in Denver, depth on the O-line is critical for the Broncos.

5.) David Anderson Colorado St. 5'11"-195
Ricky Proehl, Part II. Enough said. Won't WOW anyone, but he is heady, solid and has great hands. Clutch , money player who is a killer on third down.

6.) RB Joseph Addai, LSU 6'0"-214
Shanahan always Drafts one, and Addai has been a tough, inside runner for the Tigers, and has a Champions pedigree. Ran for alot of tough yardage against my beloved Hurricanes in the Peach Bowl, when he always seemed to be converting key third downs.

7.) Traded to Carolina for Sauerbrun.

Take that Kiper! :beer:

:D

how about this.

1a-Tamba Hali, DE
1b-Daryn Colledge, OT
2-LaRon Landry, S
3a-Devin Hester, CB/KR
3b-Greg Eslinger, C (big reach, probably won't drop)
3(comp.)-Claude Wroten, DT(slips because of character issues.)
4-Mark Setterstrom, G
5-Aaron Harris, LB (not a need but extremely athletic.)
6-Marques Hagans, WR project type

BroncoInMich
01-07-2006, 10:45 AM
Two words....Santonio Holmes, he can be a top notch reciever and run back kicks. Then next year we can get Ted Ginn Jr.

I3IzOnCoF4n24
01-07-2006, 11:07 AM
how about this.

1a-Tamba Hali, DE
1b-Daryn Colledge, OT
2-LaRon Landry, S
3a-Devin Hester, CB/KR
3b-Greg Eslinger, C (big reach, probably won't drop)
3(comp.)-Claude Wroten, DT(slips because of character issues.)
4-Mark Setterstrom, G
5-Aaron Harris, LB (not a need but extremely athletic.)
6-Marques Hagans, WR project type
If that came true I would...... wow I dont know what i would do... probably cry of happiness or something lol! That doesnt seem good enough, I would have to be more extreme than just cry haha :beer:

jletourneau
01-07-2006, 11:14 AM
Some day 1 picks and thoughts-

1a. DE, unsure right now who will be available for sure, but we need the best available speed rushing DE we can find. Kiwi, Tamba Hali, Gaines Adams, Dumervil, etc.

1b. OT or DT, Darryn Colledge, Broderick Bunkley, Rod Wright, Claude Wroten, or Jon Scott. I'd be fine with any of them. I prefer Colledge and Bunkley though.

2. Maurice Stovall, WR, Notre Dame- I wasn't a big fan of his at first, thought he was an underachiever. But he has really progressed and made big strides, not to mention that he is 6'5" and solidly built. Reminds me a lot of Plaxico Burress and has a lot of upside still he can reach. Shanny's type of receiver and he responded well this year to the high demands of Charlie Weis. I'd also be fine with Greg Lee, Martin Nance or Hank Baskett here though. 2nd round is a much better place value wise for WR's in this draft.

3. Devin Hester, KR, CB, WR, or whatever you want to call him, out of Miami. Not often does a guy without a position get this much run, but Hester's athletic ability is that high. He's a playmaker, and has a lot of potential to get even better.

3b. (comp pick?) DonTrell Moore, RB, New Mexico. A runner who doesn't have any ONE big strength, but does everything well. Had 4 1000 yard season for New Mexico, consistent contributor. Has very good vision and seems to me very underrated.

If we could end day 1 with, Tamba Hali, Darryn Colledge, Maurice Stovall, Devin Hester and DonTrell Moore, and say go round 4 with someone like Golston, DT from Georgia, I'd be very satisfied with that start.

BroncoRT
01-07-2006, 11:45 AM
Don't we have an extra round three pick from Washington anyways?

Overall, I'd take this. Colledge is a nice fit for our system, and Lee is good second round value. I think that tight end will be a pretty deep group that a better player than Thomas may be available, and since he's essentially an H-back, like Jeb, he'd have a hard time seeing the field. As an H-back, he's a fine receiver, though. I like Vickers quite a bit and wouldn't mind taking him, even if he is a tweener at several positions.

I'll tell you a player I think is worth drafting late round 2/ early round 3 is a player plummeting off the charts. I'd love to have an athlete like Devin Hester as an offensive specialist/jack-of-all-trades type player. Statistically, our kick return game was again around the bottom of the barrel, thanks to Williams becoming too valuable/injury prone, and Roc and Adams struggling to make things happen on kickoffs. Hester would thrive in a specialist role while learning to play wide receiver, and occasionally, as a third down back. If he really is as fast as he claims, and he plays like he is, he could be a matchup nightmare in the future. Hester even can fill in as a dime back if needed. I think we have a need for a player like Hester, or Will Blackmon, and since Hester has top ten athleticism, he tops my chart of athletes.

I like that idea of Hester or Blackmon with the second round pick. It is kind of like how Belicheck does it, drafting "football players" who are versatile and flexible and who can do many things for the team. If Eslinger drops to our #2 pick, we have to take a look at him also if we don't take Colledge or a Olineman in the first.

I think we might take a safety in the second round. Can Hester or Blackmon be converted to safety? Greg Blue, Brandon Meriweather, Anthony Smith, Nate Salley, and Pat Watkins could also be considered with our second round pick.

I think we have a fourth rounder from Washington this year. The third rounder from Washington was Paymah last year.

Buffalo118
01-07-2006, 10:37 PM
If that came true I would...... wow I dont know what i would do... probably cry of happiness or something lol! That doesnt seem good enough, I would have to be more extreme than just cry haha :beer:

I would have to cry with you! :beer:

Perry1977
01-08-2006, 12:09 AM
We have another 4th round pick from Washington and we will most likely get a 4th round comp pick as well.

BroncsOwnU
01-08-2006, 12:42 AM
My Draft Day wish list

Dusty Dvoracek, DT Oklahoma
Martin Nance, WR Miami of Ohio
D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia
Derek Hagan, WR Arizona State
LaRon Landry, S LSU
Marcedes Lewis, TE UCLA
LenDale White, RB USC

I know the chances of us scoring HALF of these players are slim to none... But if we can score one or two of these guys I would be dancin' on the 16th street mall.

JetterIsBetter
01-08-2006, 07:21 AM
What if we traded to someone like the jets and picked up Mario Williams? He could be just the pass rusher we need. It would be nice to have the next Julius Peppers lining up opposite Trevor Pryce.

Broncosinindy
01-08-2006, 08:12 AM
What if we traded to someone like the jets and picked up Mario Williams? He could be just the pass rusher we need. It would be nice to have the next Julius Peppers lining up opposite Trevor Pryce.

denver has cap issues.. and a few major key players in our o line ready to retire..so trying to move up in this draft that far would kill us not to mention get rid our first round picks ..id love to see mario williams but i just dont think its feesable.. take a good o lineman and d lineman is what would be good .. and with our comp picks and such it could be intresting what kind of gems mike and company can find

JetterIsBetter
01-08-2006, 08:19 AM
denver has cap issues.. and a few major key players in our o line ready to retire..so trying to move up in this draft that far would kill us not to mention get rid our first round picks ..id love to see mario williams but i just dont think its feesable.. take a good o lineman and d lineman is what would be good .. and with our comp picks and such it could be intresting what kind of gems mike and company can find

Lepsis and Nalen are having great years, and have 1 or 2 left in the both of them. I think after some great loyal years, they will restructure to make some room. It is about time to start grooming replacements though. And im interested to see if "Big Money" really loves denver as much as he says he does, and will help make cap room, and the same goes for others. I say we take a swing for a home run while we have the chance.

Perry1977
01-08-2006, 08:31 AM
Lepsis and Nalen are having great years, and have 1 or 2 left in the both of them. I think after some great loyal years, they will restructure to make some room. It is about time to start grooming replacements though. And im interested to see if "Big Money" really loves denver as much as he says he does, and will help make cap room, and the same goes for others. I say we take a swing for a home run while we have the chance.


Actually, Lepsis is currently only adding 1.0 million to the cap for 2006, so if he restructures and stays he will cost us more.

http://www.nflpa.com/Members/playerProfile.asp?ID=25443

:sick:

Broncosinindy
01-08-2006, 08:35 AM
doesnt a signing bonus figure into how much he makes and.. i thought his cap number was closer to 4 million

Perry1977
01-08-2006, 12:45 PM
doesnt a signing bonus figure into how much he makes and.. i thought his cap number was closer to 4 million

nope, when he restructured his contract earlier to stay on, he has an option for another team to buy him out over that 1 million dollar price tag. You know, a team with tons of cash like the Houston Texans with Kubiak at the helm. We could very well lose Lepsis.

BroncoRT
01-09-2006, 06:34 AM
nope, when he restructured his contract earlier to stay on, he has an option for another team to buy him out over that 1 million dollar price tag. You know, a team with tons of cash like the Houston Texans with Kubiak at the helm. We could very well lose Lepsis.

Isn't Lepsis from Texas? I think Houston will be the right fit for him, he is from Texas, they have the money and Kubiak might be going also. I think he is going to Houston or Atlanta next year.

The line next year might be

LT -Foster
LG - Myers
C- Hamilton
RG - Carlisle
RT - Green

PJ Alexander and a OT draft pick will be the backups. Hopefully they continue the Bronco tradition.

BF_forever
01-09-2006, 06:37 PM
Some day 1 picks and thoughts-

1a. DE, unsure right now who will be available for sure, but we need the best available speed rushing DE we can find. Kiwi, Tamba Hali, Gaines Adams, Dumervil, etc.

1b. OT or DT, Darryn Colledge, Broderick Bunkley, Rod Wright, Claude Wroten, or Jon Scott. I'd be fine with any of them. I prefer Colledge and Bunkley though.

2. Maurice Stovall, WR, Notre Dame- I wasn't a big fan of his at first, thought he was an underachiever. But he has really progressed and made big strides, not to mention that he is 6'5" and solidly built. Reminds me a lot of Plaxico Burress and has a lot of upside still he can reach. Shanny's type of receiver and he responded well this year to the high demands of Charlie Weis. I'd also be fine with Greg Lee, Martin Nance or Hank Baskett here though. 2nd round is a much better place value wise for WR's in this draft.

3. Devin Hester, KR, CB, WR, or whatever you want to call him, out of Miami. Not often does a guy without a position get this much run, but Hester's athletic ability is that high. He's a playmaker, and has a lot of potential to get even better.

3b. (comp pick?) DonTrell Moore, RB, New Mexico. A runner who doesn't have any ONE big strength, but does everything well. Had 4 1000 yard season for New Mexico, consistent contributor. Has very good vision and seems to me very underrated.

If we could end day 1 with, Tamba Hali, Darryn Colledge, Maurice Stovall, Devin Hester and DonTrell Moore, and say go round 4 with someone like Golston, DT from Georgia, I'd be very satisfied with that start.


That would be an awesome draft. We could be loaded.