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Atwnbroncfan
04-18-2011, 09:23 AM
There's no way Durant and Westbrook put up 70+ every night, once we get Afflalo back we should be able to outlast them.

True but there is also no way that their role players will be as bad or Nene will be as dominant.

Bowie Man
04-18-2011, 10:55 AM
True but there is also no way that their role players will be as bad or Nene will be as dominant.

We always have a different person or two who step up each night, and I think our defense can hold the others in check. Afflalo would definitely play a key role if he can come back. Either way, I think we still have a decent shot at winning as long as Afflalo can come back and the rest of our guys stay healthy.

Broncoholic3233
04-18-2011, 11:00 AM
True but there is also no way that their role players will be as bad or Nene will be as dominant.

The only role player that played poor was Ibaka, if you consider him a role player. He shot 1/8.


Perkins? Played just fine for what he was given, shot 50% and rebounded.

Harden? Only had 5 shots. That's Durant and Westbrooks fault.


It's not like they played poorly, it's that they didn't have the chances. Westbrook and Durant were on, they shot and scored the majority of the points.


Nene actually has something to prove this series, I look for him to continue to play well. And I am one of Nene's biggest critics, but he's surprised me this year, but I still can't stand him because he can't hit a FT and disappears late in the game.

BluenOrnge4Life
04-18-2011, 11:20 AM
I can't stress how big game 2 is for these Nuggets. You've got to steal one of these games on the road, and break the streak. The Thunder are now 3-0 against the Nuggets in these past couple of weeks, 1-0 in the series. There's no way you can let them go 4-0, and up 2-0 in the series.

End the streak now. Take away home court advantage.

Is it wednesday yet? :goz:

Broncoholic3233
04-18-2011, 01:10 PM
ERoyal - they are grilling Westbrook on the radio right now. Saying how good he is but how big a dbag he is.

12and4
04-18-2011, 01:17 PM
Nuggets win by 15

Broncoholic3233
04-18-2011, 03:32 PM
:sad:


Zero,Ē he said. ďIt hasnít even been 10 days yet (of rest). Iíve made a mistake three times (by coming back). Itís not even being cautious Ė itís just not healed. Iíve tried to come back in the regular season. Iím trying to get past that marker.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/2011/04/18/nuggets-guard-arron-afflalo-pessimistic-about-playing-in-game-2/4632/

Bowie Man
04-18-2011, 03:43 PM
Do you guys think we might get a little better officiating now with the statement and attention that call has gotten?

Broncoholic3233
04-18-2011, 03:52 PM
Do you guys think we might get a little better officiating now with the statement and attention that call has gotten?

Doubt it. Still NBA refs, and we are still on the road, going up against Durant who, if touched, will get the whistle, same with Westbrook.

Amari24
04-18-2011, 04:03 PM
As long as Stern is commissioner, there will never be an improvement in NBA officiating, especially if it involves the Lakers getting back to the championship.

Broncoholic3233
04-18-2011, 08:40 PM
OKLAHOMA CITY -- Denver coach George Karl started to lean up against a courtside table at the Oklahoma City Arena on Monday when he stopped to move a flat-panel television out of the way first.

The screen that referees use to check instant replay during games was still in place, about 16 hours after it sat idle following a controversial call in the Nuggets' 107-103 loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game 1 of their first-round playoff series.

"Is this the referee thing we should have used last night?" Karl asked reporters before starting his interview session.

The NBA ended up agreeing with Karl's take on the pivotal disputed basket.

In a statement that referees Steve Javie, Zach Zarba and Bill Kennedy should have ruled that Kendrick Perkins' go-ahead basket with 1:05 left was goaltending and disallowed it. Instead, it counted and put Oklahoma City ahead 102-101, and the Nuggets never recovered.

"Weren't you in shock at the game? I think we were in shock that the call wasn't made," Karl said. "How can three guys [miss it]? We were in shock, I think, that next possession."

Karl said he made his own mistake in the moments that followed, in failing to call a timeout to let his team regroup. The Nuggets, who had several players pointing toward the net and seeking a goaltending call, settled for Kenyon Martin's off-target 21-foot jumper from the left wing on the ensuing possession.

Russell Westbrook then drained the clock to 22.4 seconds before hitting a jumper to extend the lead to three, and Oklahoma City went on to close out the game from the foul line.

"I'm not smart enough," Karl said. "When your team's in shock, you're not going to probably have a good possession. I thought the guy was up through the rim. That's how tight he was on the rim."

Perkins' hand went through the net but then just outside the rim to tap in Westbrook's missed 11-foot jumper from the right side.

"Although a player is permitted to touch the net while the ball is in the cylinder above the rim, Perkins also touched the ball while it was still in the cylinder which is a violation and constitutes goaltending," the NBA said in its statement.

Perkins, who suggested after the game that missed calls are a part of the sport, wasn't about to admit Monday that it was goaltending.

The NBA's acknowledgment of the no-call from Sunday's game wasn't echoed in its nearly simultaneous announcement of a $35,000 fine for Trail Blazers coach Nate McMillan.
"They didn't call it," he said, before the NBA's ruling came out. "So, it was a basket."

Game 2 will be Wednesday night in Oklahoma City, and Denver trails 0-1.

"I think it's a sign of respect. I'm happy they're acknowledging the situation, but it doesn't mean anything other than we can go out and win Wednesday night," Karl said.

"Our respect has got to come from wins and losses. It doesn't come from the league office."

The NBA's current rules don't allow for instant replay to be used to review whether a player committed goaltending, but Karl checked out the video to confirm his suspicions.

"When I looked at it on film, I thought it had a chance of going in if he doesn't touch it," Karl said. "That's how much it was in the cylinder. It could have caught the rim and bounced up and maybe caught it again and gone in."

Karl said he thought the call helped break the Thunder out of a rough shooting stretch, in which they had scored on just one of nine possessions while squandering an eight-point lead.

"In a strange way, the goaltending thing kind of frustrated us and got us in a funk, so we don't score for two or three possessions in a row," he said.

"I think that was a powerful play. It's a powerful play."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2011/news/story?id=6384356



At least they admit they suck. But that doesn't change the fact that was a HUGE HUGE HUGE play in the game. NBA refs......smh......

milehighireland
04-19-2011, 04:09 AM
Joke decision. But the superstars get them. No AAA but we have to be due a win over that mob sooner or later. Tomorrow is so critical, if we win, the whole series flips on its head... though if we lose, we're kinda screwed

Atwnbroncfan
04-19-2011, 12:44 PM
Afflalo out game 2 really hurts.

ERoyal248
04-19-2011, 01:22 PM
ERoyal - they are grilling Westbrook on the radio right now. Saying how good he is but how big a dbag he is.

LOL, he's a great player, but not a dbag.

That's all i say.

Atwnbroncfan
04-19-2011, 06:29 PM
Its angering that Melo never tried in Denver like he is tonight.

Broncoholic JS
04-19-2011, 08:13 PM
Its angering that Melo never tried in Denver like he is tonight.

What makes me said is that we lost some really good players in Carter, Balkman, and Billups in the trade. Players I bet wish they were still here.

I will never forgive Carmelo for his selfishness. Especially because it made Chauncey switch uniforms to something other than what he wanted to retire in.

Hope Carmelo retires with no titles. But that is just me.

CAN YOU FEEL IT TOMORROW? GO NUGGETS!

johnlimburg
04-19-2011, 11:03 PM
A huge reason for our success post melo is that chauncey left. I like felton and lawson more on the court than biilups right now.

It does piss me off to see melo play that hard to night and to think why couldnt he had done that here.

Anyway. Nuggets OKC coming up. Excited as hell. Keen to see us tie this thing back up and bring it home to denver for two games.

We hit our free throws and the refs keep off OKC jock then we can win.

johnlimburg
04-19-2011, 11:08 PM
LOL, he's a great player, but not a dbag.

That's all i say.

He is a dbag according to a lot of people

Atwnbroncfan
04-19-2011, 11:42 PM
A huge reason for our success post melo is that chauncey left. I like felton and lawson more on the court than biilups right now.

It does piss me off to see melo play that hard to night and to think why couldnt he had done that here.

Anyway. Nuggets OKC coming up. Excited as hell. Keen to see us tie this thing back up and bring it home to denver for two games.

We hit our free throws and the refs keep off OKC jock then we can win.

Yup I agree, nuggets wouldn't have had the success they have had if Billups was still here.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 08:43 AM
#Nuggets guard @Arron_Afflalo says he will base return on how series is going. Wants to give hamstring as much time as possible to heal.

http://twitter.com/#!/Lopez_Nuggets

I'd expect Afflalo to return on Saturday, if we go down 2-0, BUT WE WON'T :D

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 09:12 AM
#Nuggets coach George Karl on Ty Lawson & Ray Felton, who both have ankle injuries: "Theyíll play tonight, but I donít think theyíre 100 percent."

http://twitter.com/#!/dempseypost


Figured as much...

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 04:53 PM
Maya Starks is hot.

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 05:18 PM
Not the best start

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 05:19 PM
If we keep settling for jumpers were going to get killed.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 05:20 PM
It is called - Points in the paint......NOW DO IT!

C'mon....


Let's go NUGGETS!!

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 05:24 PM
LOL

Crap refs again. :rolleyes:

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 05:26 PM
LOL

Crap refs again. :rolleyes:

No that was Kmart being stupid.

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 05:28 PM
Wow were awesome.


We lose this one by ten at least.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 05:28 PM
No that was Kmart being stupid.

Not at all. :laugh:

It is called a flop. f-l-o-p

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 05:29 PM
Nene playing aweful

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 05:29 PM
Wow were awesome.


We lose this one by ten at least.

Aren't you just a negative Nancy lately

It's the first quarter.....

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 05:30 PM
Nene playing aweful

Terrible thus far......


JR got destroyed....yet....no call.....weird....

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 05:32 PM
Nene playing aweful

I don't know about awful. This is average to below average Nene. Sunday was the best I've ever seen Nene play. Outside of the Nuggs-Spurs series back in 07.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 05:35 PM
Westbrook gets a warning.

Nuggets get 2 techs.


Cooooool

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 05:36 PM
Lol this a joke, we already quit. If we go down 0-2 the series is over.

milehighireland
04-20-2011, 05:41 PM
That's us done for the year so. Shame, i'd have fancied us over 7 games with 3 out of the 4 we could have faced in the 1st round, just not these. tbh i think they actually are in with a good shout to win the whole thing, only team that's looking really good atm

Botan
04-20-2011, 05:45 PM
I love the NBA so much. The Nuggets might be playing like trash, but leave it up to the refs to consistently put them in even more of a hole. NBA Refs have no consistency with their calls whatsoever. The Nuggets get flat out mugged but there is no call. Then JR gets a foul on a 3 pointer AFTER the guy shoots the ball?

Its clear that this league does whatever it can to make sure the stars get the calls. We have none, so we won't get any. As soon as we lost Melo, we lost any BS calls that would have been called our way.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 05:47 PM
LOL

JR is about as dumb as they come sometimes. smh


This is turning into a trainwreck. Still a lot of time left but man, this is ugly thus far....

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 05:48 PM
What a joke

ERoyal248
04-20-2011, 05:48 PM
BH, told you Harden would have a big game.

Lot of time left, but Denver isn't getting dominated on both ends, OKC is dominating the glass.

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 05:49 PM
I love the NBA so much. The Nuggets might be playing like trash, but leave it up to the refs to consistently put them in even more of a hole. NBA Refs have no consistency with their calls whatsoever. The Nuggets get flat out mugged but there is no call. Then JR gets a foul on a 3 pointer AFTER the guy shoots the ball?

Its clear that this league does whatever it can to make sure the stars get the calls. We have none, so we won't get any. As soon as we lost Melo, we lost any BS calls that would have been called our way.

There is no reason to even complain about the refs tonight. Things wer.en't going the nuggets way so they quit. They doing exactly whay Melo did, didn't get the calls so figured they couldn't do it. As I said before we lose this one by at least ten points. I thought we had a shot at this series, but no. We lose in 5.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 05:50 PM
BH, told you Harden would have a big game.

Lot of time left, but Denver isn't getting dominated on both ends, OKC is dominating the glass.

Aren't you just awesome?

:rolleyes:

SBAlki
04-20-2011, 05:52 PM
Just when you thought NBA officiating couldn't be more biased!

Bronco51
04-20-2011, 05:54 PM
Looks like a night of TiVo shows. Thanks Nuggets I needed to catch up on other shows.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 05:54 PM
Just when you thought NBA officiating couldn't be more biased!

Amen.

I mean we are playing like crap....but these refs are horrible...

Botan
04-20-2011, 05:56 PM
There is no reason to even complain about the refs tonight. Things wer.en't going the nuggets way so they quit. They doing exactly whay Melo did, didn't get the calls so figured they couldn't do it. As I said before we lose this one by at least ten points. I thought we had a shot at this series, but no. We lose in 5.

If the same team that came out in game 1 would come back for the rest of this series, there is no way we don't win it. Last game to me was a complete fluke.

Who are the freaking Nuggets that came out tonight? Players are just standing there passively like they don't care. JR is pathetic.

But my point still stands, the refs in the NBA suck. I'm almost done following the NBA its that bad. The Spurs and Lakers have won 9 championships combined since 1999. That is pathetic, if the thunder get past the Nuggets, they'll be the ones battling the horrible NBA officiating.

Whatever I guess. We're playing terrible and we deserve to lose.

SBAlki
04-20-2011, 05:57 PM
Amen.

I mean we are playing like crap....but these refs are horrible...

No doubt they are not playing well. However, the carry over from the horrible officiating is very apparent! Every screen the Thunder set is moving, with elbows or shoulders up. In addition, why is it they have a different standard of contact between teams on these shooting fouls?

Botan
04-20-2011, 06:00 PM
Oh big hack on Harrington as he makes that layup but no call! Go figure.

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:05 PM
cut this to 10 by the half and we back into it

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 06:06 PM
we just might have a game now


This might be the night the old Al Harrington drops 40.


LETS GO NUGGETS!!

Beat the Thunder and the refs!!


It's not like Lawson didn't just take an elbow to the head....

Botan
04-20-2011, 06:08 PM
Where were these Nuggets in the 1st quarter?

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:08 PM
Lawson has been on the wrong end of calls and no calls all night

themadfanatic
04-20-2011, 06:16 PM
Lol this a joke, we already quit. If we go down 0-2 the series is over.

Loosing the first 2 on the road doesn't mean its over. U win at home and steal 1 on the road that's it 1. I got u loosin in 5 but u COULD easily come back from 0-2 and make it 2-2.

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 06:16 PM
Nuggets cant close a quarter ever. Were within 12 but that lead is going to be pushed even more. Asking a road team to out score the home team by more than 15 in the 2nd half is way too large of a battle imo.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 06:20 PM
15 points is a lot better than what it could've been.

Tough last 4 minutes to the quarter, but we are at least still in it.


Gonna be a really, really tough battle, but make 2 runs, and we are right back.


Gotta go with Ty and Felton for like the whole 2nd half though, best chance we have.

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:25 PM
Cut htis to 8 by the start of the 4th and we can still do it.

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 06:36 PM
Uh oh, Kmart took off the headband, must be time to get serious lol

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 06:40 PM
Nene is trash.

We need to find a new big guy...

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 06:42 PM
Nene is trash.

We need to find a new big guy...

He is a natural 4. If we can find a legit 5 we would be good.

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:43 PM
Nene is trash.

We need to find a new big guy...

He is struggling.

Tough calls on us every time

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:44 PM
Marc Gasol

JakeNbake
04-20-2011, 06:44 PM
Marc Gasol

That'd be awesome. He's a beast.

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:45 PM
no he will miss the second

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:45 PM
That'd be awesome. He's a beast.

He is a RFA I beleive

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 06:46 PM
We cant score.

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:47 PM
We need some offense.

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 06:49 PM
There has been 40 FT's in this game already.....disgusting.

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:49 PM
now a stop and get it to 12. JR needs to play well and get in their and play smart

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 06:50 PM
He is a natural 4. If we can find a legit 5 we would be good.

Agreed 100%. He'd be a great PF. But C, no, he's too much of a wuss and can't finish.

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:50 PM
There has been 40 FT's in this game already.....disgusting.

The officials are a joke

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:51 PM
Im sick of this crap. It feels like the officials want the thunder to win

johnlimburg
04-20-2011, 06:52 PM
Also am i the only one who feels like Felton isnt strong enough to push the ball to rim when he shoots a 3 pointer. It is like he is throwing his whole body into the shot like an 11 year old

Botan
04-20-2011, 07:01 PM
Yeah, I think I'm done with the NBA. I'll continue to root for the Nuggets, but after watching this trash for years, I've had enough of the crooked reffing. Congrats to the Lakers, Heat, Spurs, Bulls and Celtics. You guys have the superstars and floppers to get championship winning officiating.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 07:21 PM
Nene once again proves he is a wuss and passes up an easy dunk/layup

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 07:23 PM
Nene once again proves he is a wuss and passes up an easy dunk/layup

Yea Chandler did as well. No one on the Nuggets has the killer instinct. They need to find that in the offseason.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 07:24 PM
Yea Chandler did as well. No one on the Nuggets has the killer instinct. They need to find that in the offseason.

I get why Chandler did. He's been way off all night. No excuse for Nene when it is a layup/dunk.


AAA has that instinct I think...that is why we are missing him so much. He'll take those tough shots when we need him too, and his defense is huge. Plus, he can shoot FTs

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 07:26 PM
Barring a miracle that should wrap it up.

12and4
04-20-2011, 07:30 PM
I hate the thunder. We are pathetic...

The only team thats had our number...

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 07:36 PM
Story of the game:

17 offensive rebounds so far

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 07:42 PM
Well....down 2-0 coming to Denver

Still have a little faith, but it is going quickly.

I think we win both at home....I hope...assuming AAA plays...


:(


Go Nuggets!

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 10:01 PM
Well....down 2-0 coming to Denver

Still have a little faith, but it is going quickly.

I think we win both at home....I hope...assuming AAA plays...


:(


Go Nuggets!

AAA will definately be back for game 3. He already confirmed it.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 10:08 PM
AAA will definately be back for game 3. He already confirmed it.

Yeah.

Said he isn't coming to save the day....but that is exactly why is coming back. We need help..and fast...


George Karl is getting out coached too....he needs to figure out what he is doing wrong.

To start...we are playing the wrong defense....

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 10:11 PM
George Karl on JR Smith: "When he got in the game, thatís when the floodgates opened." #ouch

http://twitter.com/#!/nuggetsnews



Might be safe to say, JR's future in Denver, is legitimately in extreme danger right now, more so than even before...

beastlyskronk
04-20-2011, 10:43 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/nuggetsnews



Might be safe to say, JR's future in Denver, is legitimately in extreme danger right now, more so than even before...

JR Smith is the best penetrator and the best at creating his own shot. He's also underrated at getting other people involved. Karl is using him as a scapegoat but this is not on Smith at all, he only played 6 minutes. When Chandler and Gallinari are missing all their shots, why not put Smith in especially when the game is pretty much over?

Also Felton isn't very good at all, he shouldn't be getting so many minutes

Broncoholic JS
04-20-2011, 10:45 PM
Dear God,
Why do you hate the Denver Nuggets so much?

Please reply with answer.

Thanks,
Loyal Nuggets fan John Starcevich

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 10:46 PM
JR Smith is the best penetrator and the best at creating his own shot. He's also underrated at getting other people involved. Karl is using him as a scapegoat but this is not on Smith at all, he only played 6 minutes. When Chandler and Gallinari are missing all their shots, why not put Smith in especially when the game is pretty much over?

Also Felton isn't very good at all, he shouldn't be getting so many minutes

The one person stopping JR is himself. The problem with JR is he always committing dumb fouls on defense, and then he goes crazy on offense. He does too much one on one and jacks up a dumb shot. Tonight he showed that, he didn't trust his teammates and did too much one on one. His benching tonight was justified, the benching that surprised me was Birdman.

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 10:48 PM
Dear God,
Why do you hate the Denver Nuggets so much?

Please reply with answer.

Thanks,
Loyal Nuggets fan John Starcevich

I doubt David Stern will answer you. He can't hear anything outside of New York, Boston, Chicago, and LA.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 10:50 PM
JR Smith is the best penetrator and the best at creating his own shot. He's also underrated at getting other people involved. Karl is using him as a scapegoat but this is not on Smith at all, he only played 6 minutes. When Chandler and Gallinari are missing all their shots, why not put Smith in especially when the game is pretty much over?

Also Felton isn't very good at all, he shouldn't be getting so many minutes

JR is good/great....sometimes....he's very hot or very cold.

He came in tonight, and got light up by Harden. After that, he didn't deserve it, also the fact he made some awful shots.


And I disagree, Felton has been pretty damn good with us, imo.

beastlyskronk
04-20-2011, 11:01 PM
The one person stopping JR is himself. The problem with JR is he always committing dumb fouls on defense, and then he goes crazy on offense. He does too much one on one and jacks up a dumb shot. Tonight he showed that, he didn't trust his teammates and did too much one on one. His benching tonight was justified, the benching that surprised me was Birdman.

But when you're down by double digits and you can't get in back into single digits after having numerous chances, put Smith in and he'll either get us back into the game or not. We weren't going to come back without him.

You really can't blame him for losing the game when he only played 6 minutes. Chandler took some bad shots, he really can't create his own shot. Gallinari seems more concerned about drawing a foul than actually scoring and by that I mean he should look to score and getting fouled should be a result of trying to get to the basket.

beastlyskronk
04-20-2011, 11:02 PM
JR is good/great....sometimes....he's very hot or very cold.

He came in tonight, and got light up by Harden. After that, he didn't deserve it, also the fact he made some awful shots.


And I disagree, Felton has been pretty damn good with us, imo.

I don't think he has, everytime I watch Felton he's missing open shots as well as contested shots, he's fouling someone, or he's just having a mental lapse on defense and giving up an open 3.

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 11:06 PM
But when you're down by double digits and you can't get in back into single digits after having numerous chances, put Smith in and he'll either get us back into the game or not. We weren't going to come back without him.

You really can't blame him for losing the game when he only played 6 minutes. Chandler took some bad shots, he really can't create his own shot. Gallinari seems more concerned about drawing a foul than actually scoring and by that I mean he should look to score and getting fouled should be a result of trying to get to the basket.

Im not blaming the Loss on him, I balme it on our lack off effort on rebounding. But with the depth we have you got to play smart or your going to be benched. As for Gallo yea that is what he does, but he is young we need to develop him. But I think he has great potential, as does Chandler. Gallo can be a poor mans Dirk, and Chandler can be like Tashaun Prince I think his defense is that good.

Tonight we didn't do the little things right that you have to be perfect at to make a comeback.

BluenOrnge4Life
04-20-2011, 11:14 PM
If the Nuggets don't win these next two at home this series is officially over, if it's not already.

Thunder are 4-0 against us recently. Not good AT ALL. :sad:

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 11:16 PM
I don't think he has, everytime I watch Felton he's missing open shots as well as contested shots, he's fouling someone, or he's just having a mental lapse on defense and giving up an open 3.

Felton and Lawson duo are deadly. Felton is a pretty good man, he's been shaky at times when he has gotten here, but he was one of the few that played decent tonight.


But I too, am not blaming the loss on JR, but his guy did go off for 14 points very quickly. I hope he stays in Denver, his good games, can usually outweigh his bad....but Karl and him have never really gotten along, and that quote, well it just makes me wonder.

beastlyskronk
04-20-2011, 11:21 PM
Im not blaming the Loss on him, I balme it on our lack off effort on rebounding. But with the depth we have you got to play smart or your going to be benched. As for Gallo yea that is what he does, but he is young we need to develop him. But I think he has great potential, as does Chandler. Gallo can be a poor mans Dirk, and Chandler can be like Tashaun Prince I think his defense is that good.

Tonight we didn't do the little things right that you have to be perfect at to make a comeback.

I wouldn't even say it was from a lack of effort (there was a lack of effort tonight though) but rather we just don't have the mindset of a good rebound team. Nene likes to run the court so he doesn't always stay back or box out like he should. And Kenyon Martin is a bit undersized especially since a lot of PFs now have way longer arms than him.

Also I'd like to see Ty Lawson be more aggressive. His shot has really developed nicely and he can get to basket whenever he wants.

But most of our problems are just the mindset of the team. The team is mentally weak and you can tell because they settle for shots instead of trying to create some space or passing it to someone else. Kenyon Martin really needs to step up and be the leader. He should be telling guys like Nene to stay back up and box out and tell guys to stop settling for shots. He's been to the Finals before and he's probably the most aggressive guy on the team.

beastlyskronk
04-20-2011, 11:23 PM
Felton and Lawson duo are deadly. Felton is a pretty good man, he's been shaky at times when he has gotten here, but he was one of the few that played decent tonight.


But I too, am not blaming the loss on JR, but his guy did go off for 14 points very quickly. I hope he stays in Denver, his good games, can usually outweigh his bad....but Karl and him have never really gotten along, and that quote, well it just makes me wonder.

Idk it's just everytime I watch the Nuggets Felton plays bad. When I was watching he only had like 5 points but I saw all 6 of his misses. And I saw him not contest a few 3s that he should have contested.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 11:27 PM
I wouldn't even say it was from a lack of effort (there was a lack of effort tonight though) but rather we just don't have the mindset of a good rebound team. Nene likes to run the court so he doesn't always stay back or box out like he should. And Kenyon Martin is a bit undersized especially since a lot of PFs now have way longer arms than him.

Also I'd like to see Ty Lawson be more aggressive. His shot has really developed nicely and he can get to basket whenever he wants.

But most of our problems are just the mindset of the team. The team is mentally weak and you can tell because they settle for shots instead of trying to create some space or passing it to someone else. Kenyon Martin really needs to step up and be the leader. He should be telling guys like Nene to stay back up and box out and tell guys to stop settling for shots. He's been to the Finals before and he's probably the most aggressive guy on the team.

K-Mart was playing great against Perkins...it was hilarious, Perkins would try to back him down and K-Mart wouldn't budge. He also gave the team a pep talk at the end of the 1st, we just obviously weren't on our game tonight and our confidence just looked ruined from the beginning, part due to the refs I'd say.

I believe Lawson will be much more aggressive at home. Both him and Felton right now aren't 100% according to GK, thus the reason they haven't been driving as much, I'd guess.


We just need to buckle down, switch our defense up a bit, and the home crowd will help a lot.

I have faith still. I think we will go back to OKC knotted up at 2-2.

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 11:28 PM
K-Mart was playing great against Perkins...it was hilarious, Perkins would try to back him down and K-Mart wouldn't budge. He also gave the team a pep talk at the end of the 1st, we just obviously weren't on our game tonight and our confidence just looked ruined from the beginning, part due to the refs I'd say.

I believe Lawson will be much more aggressive at home. Both him and Felton right now aren't 100% according to GK, thus the reason they haven't been driving as much, I'd guess.


We just need to buckle down, switch our defense up a bit, and the home crowd will help a lot.

I have faith still. I think we will go back to OKC knotted up at 2-2.

IF we win game 3, and 4. The winner of game 5 will take the series.

Broncoholic3233
04-20-2011, 11:31 PM
IF we win game 3, and 4. The winner of game 5 will take the series.

Agreed. I think we will take 3 and 4. Depending on how we play, we could take 5 and 6. Hell, might as well go on our own 4-0 run :)


But it is not over until it is over with this new team, I truly believe that.

The first game, very easily could've been ours, but that phantom call hurt us badly.

Then tonight, well, that was just embarrassing, but I think we will bounce back. AAA even not at 100% will help us (assuming he doesn't re-injure himself).

Broncoholic JS
04-20-2011, 11:33 PM
I doubt David Stern will answer you. He can't hear anything outside of New York, Boston, Chicago, and LA.

Touche, well played sir

beastlyskronk
04-20-2011, 11:37 PM
Agreed. I think we will take 3 and 4. Depending on how we play, we could take 5 and 6. Hell, might as well go on our own 4-0 run :)


But it is not over until it is over with this new team, I truly believe that.

The first game, very easily could've been ours, but that phantom call hurt us badly.

Then tonight, well, that was just embarrassing, but I think we will bounce back. AAA even not at 100% will help us (assuming he doesn't re-injure himself).

He'll really help, he can definitely mitigate Westbrook's impact on the game. And I say Westbrook because Durant isn't going to be stopped, I actually think Chandler did a pretty good job on him tonight. If we can keep Durant/Westbrook to under 40 points combined we'll win and AAA can definitely hold Westbrook to 15.

Atwnbroncfan
04-20-2011, 11:58 PM
Agreed. I think we will take 3 and 4. Depending on how we play, we could take 5 and 6. Hell, might as well go on our own 4-0 run :)


But it is not over until it is over with this new team, I truly believe that.

The first game, very easily could've been ours, but that phantom call hurt us badly.

Then tonight, well, that was just embarrassing, but I think we will bounce back. AAA even not at 100% will help us (assuming he doesn't re-injure himself).

I think it's entirely possible we take the next 4. It wouldn't shock me at all. This team is young and a win would be a huge confidence booster. Plus kd is coming to a place he has historically sucked at.

PP7FTW
04-21-2011, 08:13 AM
KD hasn't been able to miss the past two games. If he continues to shoot like that, i don't see how the nuggets can keep up. I think the nugs will get one at home, but okc takes this in 5. Thunder might be the best team in the NBA. I'm thinking it'll be a Thunder-Heat finals.

Broncoholic3233
04-21-2011, 12:41 PM
Nuggets guard J.R. Smith, who played just six minutes in Wednesday night's Game 2, said there's a "strong possibility" he won't sign with the Nuggets this summer as a free agent, expressing frustration Thursday after the Nuggets went down 0-2 against Oklahoma City in the playoffs.

"There's a strong possibility as of right now," Smith said. "It's not going the way I planned it to go. It's a tough situation. I want to be here, I love the fans and everything about the city. It's just maybe not my fit."

The Nuggets had a team meeting on Thursday and Smith said the team didn't
have "a pulse" as they regrouped at Pepsi Center.

"Just frustration, just really didn't have any life in there," Smith said. "No one was really into it."

Smith said he didn't get an explanation for why he played so few minutes (he went 1-for-6 from the field and was minus-17, causing coach George Karl to say that the "floodgates opened" when Smith was on the court).

"I'm not worried about my shots," Smith said. "That's one of the things I was here for, I thought. If they ask me to play, I'll play. If not, I'll just cheer for my teammates."

Asked about the floodgates quote, Smith said, "I don't read the quotes any more. I don't even want to get into that. If he asks me to play, I'll play, if not, I won't. It's kind of getting ridiculous."

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17901418

It is a pretty safe bet that JR definitely won't be back next season. :(

That is what happens when you are dumb as a rock though and play for a coach like GK.

beastlyskronk
04-21-2011, 12:49 PM
Both are too stubborn to find any middle ground. But Smith did make a good point about the team not having a pulse, you can really see it on the court whenever they get down or when they let up a big lead

Broncoholic3233
04-21-2011, 12:54 PM
Both are too stubborn to find any middle ground. But Smith did make a good point about the team not having a pulse, you can really see it on the court whenever they get down or when they let up a big lead

I agree on both being too stubborn.


But this new look Nuggets team has never really died, imo. You always feel like they are in the game, even when down by 10+. Last night, when down 26, that is the first time I felt like we didn't have a chance, then we quickly cut it to 12 and felt like we were right back into. Last night was the worst I've seen this team, there didn't feel like there was much of a 'pulse' last night. But I don't expect to see another game like last night.


We'll see...Saturday night can't get here soon enough.

milehighireland
04-21-2011, 01:29 PM
I agree on both being too stubborn.


But this new look Nuggets team has never really died, imo. You always feel like they are in the game, even when down by 10+. Last night, when down 26, that is the first time I felt like we didn't have a chance, then we quickly cut it to 12 and felt like we were right back into. Last night was the worst I've seen this team, there didn't feel like there was much of a 'pulse' last night. But I don't expect to see another game like last night.


We'll see...Saturday night can't get here soon enough.

I was just saying before the playoffs began that one thing i'd noticed about this team was that we didn't get blown out. Not any more. At best OKC have our number and at worst it means that our honeymoon period is over and we're nowhere near as good as we think we are...

Whatever happens saturday, which will be an OKC win in all likelihood, our season is rapidly approaching its end. Shame..

Broncoholic3233
04-21-2011, 01:32 PM
I disagree. We are as good as we 'think' we are.

We are missing a very important player in AAA. Lawson and Felton are both not 100% dealing with lingering ankle injuries. Chandler has a chronic ankle injury that he's been dealing with for a long time.

We've had some unfortunate injuries at the wrong time. OKC is a very good team, but the series very easily could be 1-1 right now, without that blown call, that even the NBA came out and said they blew the call.

Everyone is all doom and gloom after one bad outing last night....we'll bounce back, I'm not worried about it. Even if we lose the series, we weren't even supposed to be in the playoffs, yet we are the 5th seed, in a very good Western conference.

beastlyskronk
04-21-2011, 03:07 PM
I agree on both being too stubborn.


But this new look Nuggets team has never really died, imo. You always feel like they are in the game, even when down by 10+. Last night, when down 26, that is the first time I felt like we didn't have a chance, then we quickly cut it to 12 and felt like we were right back into. Last night was the worst I've seen this team, there didn't feel like there was much of a 'pulse' last night. But I don't expect to see another game like last night.


We'll see...Saturday night can't get here soon enough.

Idk I never thought they would cut it back down to single digits. When they were close to doing it either Westbrook or Durant were resting on the bench. If we really want to win this series the key will be getting Durant in foul trouble and the only people capable of doing it are Gallinari and Smith. I like Smith more right now, he just needs to understand that he should look to penetrate and if he can't get to the basket pass it to someone and not settle for a jumpshot. Gallinari would be the better option but like I mentioned earlier he isn't looking to score, he's looking to get the foul.

Broncoholic3233
04-21-2011, 03:18 PM
Idk I never thought they would cut it back down to single digits. When they were close to doing it either Westbrook or Durant were resting on the bench. If we really want to win this series the key will be getting Durant in foul trouble and the only people capable of doing it are Gallinari and Smith. I like Smith more right now, he just needs to understand that he should look to penetrate and if he can't get to the basket pass it to someone and not settle for a jumpshot. Gallinari would be the better option but like I mentioned earlier he isn't looking to score, he's looking to get the foul.

Gallo is a great scorer. He has just gotten himself into foul trouble so he hasn't been able to play the minutes needed. He can also drive, awkwardly, but he can. He's also a great FT shooter, just unfortunately for us, he hasn't been that great with us. That is something he will snap out of though, hopefully this year, but if not, next year for sure. He is the one player on our roster that people think can become an actual 'superstar'. He has great height, he has a great basketball IQ, he flops (good for fouls, even though I hate it), he has a great shot, and he can drive. We just have to hope he can make that transition because he is still very young.


JR is a great player too. He just hold himself back. He can shoot better than anyone when he is on fire, but when he is cold, he gets himself into trouble and hurts the team. I hope one day he will make that transition but I am just not sure. He is a great 6th man type of guy though, and I hope he resigns. We are going to need a big game from him in the playoffs.


Getting Durant in foul trouble will be extremely difficult. He doesn't play defense so he really won't ever foul unless you try to run into him, but he will more than likely not get the call because he is a superstar. Plus he doesn't really drive much so you aren't going to be picking up a charge on him.



----

I'm not sure how much you watched of the 'New Nuggets' team before the playoffs, but I know I was never once worried about losing a game, even if we were losing by a lot. They always seemed to make that run and get right back in the game, whether by great ball movement or defense. Last night was the first game I was actually worried.


Let's just hope we turn in around game 3 and 4.

beastlyskronk
04-21-2011, 03:26 PM
Yeah I don't get to watch the Nuggets unless they're on ESPN or TNT so the playoffs are generally the only time I can watch them.

But yeah I think Gallinari looks awkward when he drives because if he feels any contact he immediately loses his balance and I believe he does it on purpose because he wants the foul. I don't disagree with that completely but he should be more worried about scoring than drawing the foul.

Smith really just needs to drive a lot more. He'll get fouled or he'll get a layup/dunk and with a player like him, all he needs is to see the ball go in the basket a few times and then he'll catch fire.

Sometimes I wonder what Karl is telling them during practice or whether the players listen to what he's telling them because a lot of the things I see when I watch them play are little things that can be fixed easily.

Broncoholic3233
04-21-2011, 03:31 PM
Yeah I don't get to watch the Nuggets unless they're on ESPN or TNT so the playoffs are generally the only time I can watch them.

But yeah I think Gallinari looks awkward when he drives because if he feels any contact he immediately loses his balance and I believe he does it on purpose because he wants the foul. I don't disagree with that completely but he should be more worried about scoring than drawing the foul.

Smith really just needs to drive a lot more. He'll get fouled or he'll get a layup/dunk and with a player like him, all he needs is to see the ball go in the basket a few times and then he'll catch fire.

Sometimes I wonder what Karl is telling them during practice or whether the players listen to what he's telling them because a lot of the things I see when I watch them play are little things that can be fixed easily.
Yeah, he does seem off balance, most likely because he is running as hard as he can, and is 6'10. Haha. But he is a foreign bread player, and trying to flop and draw fouls are part of their game. I don't have a problem if he gets the call and if he was shooting 90% from FT like he was in NY. But I definitely agree, it drives me crazy when they just try to get the foul and don't score, Billups did that too.

Karl is just Karl. He's a great coach. But yeah, sometimes I question what they are doing in practice. Right now, they better be shooting FTs 3 straight hours.

beastlyskronk
04-21-2011, 03:41 PM
It's just frustrating to watch because I think Gallinari is going to be a great offensive player by this time next season but it'd benefit us more if he could get there this season. :sad:

Every game I've watched this season Denver has been about 60% from the free throw line. I think I'm jinxing them somehow.

Broncoholic3233
04-21-2011, 03:46 PM
It's just frustrating to watch because I think Gallinari is going to be a great offensive player by this time next season but it'd benefit us more if he could get there this season. :sad:

Every game I've watched this season Denver has been about 60% from the free throw line. I think I'm jinxing them somehow.

He's been awful ever since he got here from FT. Not sure what it is, but it's hurting his game, maybe it is confidence or he is just in one of the funks that is hard to snap. He can still shoot the ball fine, but he's been dealing with his injury and what not.

But yes, he'll be great next year, just gotta make sure we lock him up.

The injuries have really thrown us off our game. Before all of them, we were passing the ball great, shooting great, making good shots for ourselves and playing defense. Now, we are rarely doing those all at the same time anymore. :(

Atwnbroncfan
04-21-2011, 05:30 PM
Can You Feel It? George Karl says this series is leaving Denver tied at 2-2. I have faith, time to turn it up Nuggs.

johnlimburg
04-21-2011, 05:43 PM
I have lost a little faith in the nuggets but still think we can win the series. That quote by JR was sort of true but the idiot should keep his trap shut and talk about that crap after the season. JR and GK will never get along. It is best to see JR go. As much as I like him

themadfanatic
04-21-2011, 05:57 PM
Send him to the knicks wed love 2 have him

ERoyal248
04-22-2011, 09:08 AM
Can You Feel It? George Karl says this series is leaving Denver tied at 2-2. I have faith, time to turn it up Nuggs.

Denver probably wins Game 3, i always bet on teams down 2-0, teams do everything to win a must-win game.

Then the Thunder win a close game in Game 4, wrap it up in OKC in Game 5.

Broncoholic3233
04-22-2011, 09:56 AM
This series is far from over, fellas.

Let the Thunder fans and other keep thinking it is. Most people jump to the conclusion 'it's over' after taking a 2-0 lead.

We knot it up at home 2-2? It's a brand new 3 game series.


LETS GO NUGGETS!

BluenOrnge4Life
04-22-2011, 10:09 AM
This series is far from over, fellas.

Let the Thunder fans and other keep thinking it is. Most people jump to the conclusion 'it's over' after taking a 2-0 lead.

We knot it up at home 2-2? It's a brand new 3 game series.


LETS GO NUGGETS!I'd like to believe so, but these JR Smith and K-Mart comments have me worried that this team is tearing apart from the inside.

Broncoholic3233
04-22-2011, 10:14 AM
I'd like to believe so, but these JR Smith and K-Mart comments have me worried that this team is tearing apart from the inside.

JR is always in his own world, he has never really been 'committed' to the team in my opinion.

His comments don't worry me one bit at all. It's JR being JR and GK being GK.


I haven't seen any K-Mart quotes that worry me either, so not exactly sure what you are talking about on this one, maybe I missed something.


I've just heard GK saying it's going to be a 2-2 series after Monday. Also, Felton and Lawson ready to fight back.


Like I said, I'm not worried, we had the 3rd best home record, I like our chances at the Can.

jake15guy
04-22-2011, 10:16 AM
I'd like to believe so, but these JR Smith and K-Mart comments have me worried that this team is tearing apart from the inside.

mind filling me in on what martin said? Dont think i caught it

Broncoholic3233
04-22-2011, 10:29 AM
"They were aggressive," Denver forward Kenyon Martin said of the Thunder's defense. "Pick-and-rolls, post-ups, pin-downs, whatever you name, they were aggressive, the way you're supposed to play. Scott Brooks did an excellent job of getting them into places and making sure they're playing that way."
http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17894015
This is the only K-Mart quote I've read/seen. Maybe a little shot at Karl, but really, I don't take anything from that quote. Just giving them props for showing up and playing the right way.



"More so than my actual game, it's the way I play the game," Afflalo. "I feel like I can be a contagious type of player when it comes to my energy level."
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_17901586#ixzz1KH2ybajc


"We're going home to bounce back, get these next two games, one game at a time, and make it a series. We'll get our confidence back and be better prepared when we come back here. We're definitely coming back."
http://www.denverpost.com/kiszla/ci_17896572


"It's going to be a great Easter weekend," Karl said. "We're going to win two games, and it's going to be a best-of-three series."
http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17905408



I like the last 3 quotes better. I have faith. The team does. We just need to snap out of it. Having AAA back will help a ton, even without him at 100%, obviously we'd like him at 100%, but he won't be anywhere near it, unfortunately.

BluenOrnge4Life
04-22-2011, 12:10 PM
JR is always in his own world, he has never really been 'committed' to the team in my opinion.

His comments don't worry me one bit at all. It's JR being JR and GK being GK.


I haven't seen any K-Mart quotes that worry me either, so not exactly sure what you are talking about on this one, maybe I missed something.


I've just heard GK saying it's going to be a 2-2 series after Monday. Also, Felton and Lawson ready to fight back.


Like I said, I'm not worried, we had the 3rd best home record, I like our chances at the Can.


mind filling me in on what martin said? Dont think i caught it

http://www.1043thefan.com/podcasts/Episodes.aspx?PID=1620

Mike and Scott hour 1 4/21/11 Right about 10 Minutes.

Scott Hastings shares a comment that K-Mart said that sounded like an underhand shot at George Karl.

Whether it was or not, I'm not sure. Either way, it makes you wonder.

Like Hastings said, "What's the first thing to jump off of a sinking ship? The Rats."

I don't think this series is over yet, but I'm far from convinced that this team will definitely come back and knot it up at 2-2, let alone win. We have too many injuries, are facing a really good team, and we have idiots saying things to the media that they shouldn't be.

Give me a healthy Afflalo, Moz, and our two speedy point guards with good ankles, and I'll take us over OKC all day. However, we haven't had that & i'm not sure we will this year.

johnlimburg
04-22-2011, 11:34 PM
I love Kenyon but he should be quiet. Hopefully he comes out angry and gives it to Durant. Im not as convinced as broncoholic however i still think we can win this series.

Lets go Nuggs. Big week in sport for me. Im so excited. The draft. The nuggets series. Lets go Denver. Hopefully we come out of this week smelling like roses. Hopefully the D Broncos draft the right way and do it well and the Nuggets are back in the series by monday the 24th

Broncoholic3233
04-23-2011, 03:48 PM
"We're all right. I'm telling you, we're all right," Martin said in a strong, serious tone. "I'm the captain of this team ó we're all right."
http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17912516#ixzz1KOCV0Y8i

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 06:03 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17912516#ixzz1KOCV0Y8i

Yeh Kenyon. Now rough up Durant as much as possible without getting ejected. When Durant dribbles throught the paint we should hit him every time. he is going to get calls because he is KD anyway. I say hurt him some. In game one when Kenyon pushed him to the floor when they were going for the rebound KD looked hurt. Didnt want to show it. Make the punk pay. I would like to see someone hurt Durant. Maybe Mosgov can close line his ass because we wont need him to much. Or ely. Get ejected but make sure you hurt the bum.

:D

CoryWinget81
04-23-2011, 07:08 PM
Yeh Kenyon. Now rough up Durant as much as possible without getting ejected. When Durant dribbles throught the paint we should hit him every time. he is going to get calls because he is KD anyway. I say hurt him some. In game one when Kenyon pushed him to the floor when they were going for the rebound KD looked hurt. Didnt want to show it. Make the punk pay. I would like to see someone hurt Durant. Maybe Mosgov can close line his ass because we wont need him to much. Or ely. Get ejected but make sure you hurt the bum.

:D
Exactly. I 100% agree.

This isn't bad sportsmanship, just part of the game. If he's gonna get calls anyway, make him feel them. I will say this though, the Nuggets will catch hell in the national media if they leave a mark on their precious Durant or Westbrook.

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 07:11 PM
Exactly. I 100% agree.

This isn't bad sportsmanship, just part of the game. If he's gonna get calls anyway, make him feel them. I will say this though, the Nuggets will catch hell in the national media if they leave a mark on their precious Durant or Westbrook.

I loved being refered to as the Thuggets. I like being mean. :D

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 07:14 PM
This isn't about the Nuggets but how good are the Grizzlies looking and without Rudy Gay. They have been my second team for a while and Rudy gay is one of my favourite players but if the Nuggets fall out of the playoffs which I dont think will atleast in round 1 i am hope the grizz come out of the west if we dont. Unlikely but I love their team. Not as much as the Nuggets though :D

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 07:22 PM
See Westbrook the punk point at Afflalo after after the shot he made. KMart should knock his head off later on if the game is over and we have lost.

Crowd is buzzing

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 07:23 PM
Trip A .

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 07:24 PM
Tripple A is not playin around. I bet u win this one

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 07:25 PM
Who can feel it.............

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 07:26 PM
Tripple A is not playin around. I bet u win this one

We better.

Man Westbrook is a punk. I could beat his ugly ass up

ERoyal248
04-23-2011, 07:29 PM
Afflalo on fire, i got the Nugs winning tonight, then OKC getting Game 4.

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 07:32 PM
Lol westbrook is kinda skinny (6'3 190) but he got serious reach. If he can jab idk might be tough

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 07:35 PM
Kmart looks like method man lol

milehighireland
04-23-2011, 07:38 PM
What just happened those last couple mins?

Frenchy180
04-23-2011, 07:38 PM
Anybody else on dish network not getting the gane in HD on Altitude?

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 07:39 PM
Not sure about this lineup, Afflalo is the best guy out there at getting his own shot and he's only above average at best when it comes to that.

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 07:47 PM
I wonder if the refs are ever going to start calling the foul when KD reaches his arm around the defender to get by him. I know he's a superstar and everything but Melo got called on that everytime

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 07:47 PM
How was that a foul on Chandler before and the crowd is going crazy. JR needs to play well today.

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 07:49 PM
Lol westbrook is kinda skinny (6'3 190) but he got serious reach. If he can jab idk might be tough

I would just like to pick him and slam him

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 07:49 PM
That was an exciting quarter wish my suns were in the playoffs and still played that high scoring basketball.

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 07:50 PM
I wonder if the refs are ever going to start calling the foul when KD reaches his arm around the defender to get by him. I know he's a superstar and everything but Melo got called on that everytime

Melo was one superstar who didnt get the calls like Durant does. KD goes to the charity strip alot considering he rarely drives to the basket

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 07:50 PM
That was an exciting quarter wish my suns were in the playoffs and still played that high scoring basketball.

They really fell apart this year. Nash is getting old and truggled to score like he use to. Well atleast in the games I watched him

milehighireland
04-23-2011, 07:53 PM
That was an exciting quarter wish my suns were in the playoffs and still played that high scoring basketball.

Thought you were a knicks fan or am I wrong?

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 08:00 PM
Thought you were a knicks fan or am I wrong?

Lifelong diehard suns fan. Bandwagon knicks fan just cuz I'm upset with the suns FO and because they got amare and dAntoni +melo and the fact all their games come on tv and I get to go to the garden a lot but the knicks are my #2 team in reality cuz if they played the suns I'd still root for the suns. I just hate the roster right now they've made terrible decisions(not payin amare,tradin dragic and a 1st for books,trading rondo,joe johson,both richardsons,house,kidd,bell,diaw,barbosa)

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 08:02 PM
Marion, not drafting lawson

milehighireland
04-23-2011, 08:04 PM
Lifelong diehard suns fan. Bandwagon knicks fan just cuz I'm upset with the suns FO and because they got amare and dAntoni +melo and the fact all their games come on tv and I get to go to the garden a lot but the knicks are my #2 team in reality cuz if they played the suns I'd still root for the suns. I just hate the roster right now they've made terrible decisions(not payin amare,tradin dragic and a 1st for books,trading rondo,joe johson,both richardsons,house,kidd,bell,diaw,barbosa)

fair enough, at least you like the teams who are entertaining to watch. Suns made some seriously stupid moves though, talk about one step forward and two back....

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 08:09 PM
We just have to keep attacking the basket and keep them in foul trouble. Even if we don't make all the free throws eventually they'll have to stop fouling or just foul out.

I did like what I saw in Smith when he was on, definitely becoming a very good distributor.

milehighireland
04-23-2011, 08:09 PM
Wake up lads, it's only the 2nd quarter...

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 08:10 PM
These officials will not lets us win a game. They are all over the westbrook and durant jock

The Experience
04-23-2011, 08:12 PM
These officials will not lets us win a game. They are all over the westbrook and durant jock

No new news here.

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 08:19 PM
Well they're starting to get a little sloppy with their passing, can't continue to pass it from one side of the court to the other.

milehighireland
04-23-2011, 08:19 PM
Wait... what just happened there? from tied to down 7 in like 2 mins?

The Experience
04-23-2011, 08:23 PM
Nuggets offense looks like a rec ball team right now.

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 08:26 PM
Is handchecking like that allowed on free throws? I'm pretty sure you can call interference or something to that effect on what Ibaka was doing to Nene

johnlimburg
04-23-2011, 08:43 PM
I think we need JR on the floor. He wasnt stupid when he got out there. Im watching the game on ABC and just wondering if anyone else has noticed the colour analysis. Is that a women or a man who sounds like a women. Cause which ever it is they dont dont know what they are talking about.

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 08:57 PM
One thing this entire series is we just haven't been able to get the 3-ball going. We need something from that like down the stretch where we hitting over 12 3s a game. That was when we are good, when we force teams to play the perimeter, and make guys like Perkins move

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 09:01 PM
Crush how are u a broncos AND nuggets fan aren't u from CT?

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 09:05 PM
Westbrook did NOTHING and got a tech that will be recinded. What a joke

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:07 PM
Crush how are u a broncos AND nuggets fan aren't u from CT?

Grew up in CO, the moved out here cuz dad was military

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 09:08 PM
Oh cool what branch?

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 09:08 PM
U like CO better??

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:09 PM
Oh cool what branch?

Dad was Navy, was deployed so mom moved us out to family in CO for a bit, then we came back out here

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:10 PM
U like CO better??

Oh ya lots, I do like NE summers, with beaches and such, but I love the family out in CO.

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 09:12 PM
That's cool my dad was in the navy too. I was a marine cadet when I was younger(wanted to be a marine that changed my mind) it was cool though I drove a tank shot m16s, got to fly a plane through someone I met.

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 09:13 PM
Some people might not agree with this but I want Smith shooting when the game is on the line. I think he just plays his best at those points.

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 09:14 PM
Yeah I like our summers, I live 3 blocks from the beach. Summers are too short though. I hear denvers nice. Back on topic jr is nice I'd like him on the suns or knicks

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:16 PM
That's cool my dad was in the navy too. I was a marine cadet when I was younger(wanted to be a marine that changed my mind) it was cool though I drove a tank shot m16s, got to fly a plane through someone I met.

Ya I liked the military lifestyle, was heavily considering going that route but Dad said you are getting an education lol.

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:18 PM
Yeah I like our summers, I live 3 blocks from the beach. Summers are too short though. I hear denvers nice. Back on topic jr is nice I'd like him on the suns or knicks

Ya I love the beach and everything, I also love fishing and love Deep Sea fishing it's great. However there's just something about CO that you can't forget

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:19 PM
Some people might not agree with this but I want Smith shooting when the game is on the line. I think he just plays his best at those points.

Ya me too, he just seems to come up big when we need it, and can score from anywhere. But dang our boys need to start hitting free throws.

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 09:22 PM
Ya I love the beach and everything, I also love fishing and love Deep Sea fishing it's great. However there's just something about CO that you can't forget

I like deep sea fishing too I've been twice only caught one starfish though lol.

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:23 PM
And smith spent the break in the freezer cause he's gone cold

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 09:24 PM
lol and right on cue Smith goes cold. I did like the fact that he missed a few in a row and then drove in and got an easier shot. It went in and out but it does show growth as a player

themadfanatic
04-23-2011, 09:26 PM
The nuggets have no A list players but they got a bunch of really good players. I really like birdman,jr,lawson,chandler,AAA, and galo

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:27 PM
Can someone get JR a blanket he's pure ice right now

ERoyal248
04-23-2011, 09:27 PM
The nuggets have no A list players but they got a bunch of really good players. I really like birdman,jr,lawson,chandler,AAA, and galo

That's the problem, in the playoffs you need superstars.

I think Gallo could develop into one, and maybe Lawson as well.

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 09:28 PM
The nuggets have no A list players but they got a bunch of really good players. I really like birdman,jr,lawson,chandler,AAA, and galo

Lawson, AAA, and Galo are going to be stars. Nene could also be a star if he would play with more control. I think JR will end up being something like Jason Terry or Jamal Crawford.

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:30 PM
I wish we could hit a 3, but of course not

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 09:35 PM
We just have to keep attacking the rim and get into the body of the defenders and draw fouls. We're not hitting our 3s or really any deep 2s.

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:35 PM
We fail to build a lead missing 4 consecutive free throws, then start the 4th ice cold. Not a shock we will be down 3 to none, yay nuggets way to be jokes in the playoffs. At least Melo isn't having a run

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 09:46 PM
I think we should put in Lawson, Smith, and Harrington, take out Martin, Felton and Chandler. Keep doubling Durant, let Lawson or Smith drive and either get a basket at the rim or kick it out for an open 3 and hope it falls

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 09:52 PM
Things that desperately need working on: Free Throws and Screen Defense

I think all the missed Free Throws are effecting our FGs and our screen defense is just terrible.

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 09:55 PM
Agreed we need FT work and bad that alone cost us this game and the first. We just played scared, we looked confused and outmatched. We have a lot of work to do, it starts with getting better in the middle, I hate to say it but now we get to hear how much worse we are without Melo an entire off season.

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 09:57 PM
Agreed we need FT work and bad that alone cost us this game and the first. We just played scared, we looked confused and outmatched. We have a lot of work to do, it starts with getting better in the middle, I hate to say it but now we get to hear how much worse we are without Melo an entire off season.

I think we'd really benefit if we could get a big guy that could knock down a mid range shot as well as post up. Nene needs to continue to work on his mid range shot. I think Harrington or Martin has to go so we can have some cap room to work with

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 09:59 PM
It probably doesn't mean much now but Smith is making his case for being in the closing rotation

ERoyal248
04-23-2011, 10:01 PM
Not over yet, Westbrook misses 2 crucial FT's.

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 10:03 PM
They're just getting my hopes up to dash then away

ERoyal248
04-23-2011, 10:04 PM
Wow, how did Ibaka get that wide open, one point game to that...

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 10:04 PM
And now I'm sad again

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 10:05 PM
Lawson should have set a better screen there, and that did look like a foul to me

getlynched47
04-23-2011, 10:05 PM
Sucks that the Nuggets limped into the playoffs. Our team is done :(

ERoyal248
04-23-2011, 10:08 PM
Bad shot by JR, didn't get fouled, should of let someone else shoot that had a better look.

Frenchy180
04-23-2011, 10:08 PM
Lawson should have set a better screen there, and that did look like a foul to me

Coulda been called, but woulda been a bit of a ticky tacky call at the same time... They shoulda gone to someone else other than JR

beastlyskronk
04-23-2011, 10:11 PM
Coulda been called, but woulda been a bit of a ticky tacky call at the same time... They shoulda gone to someone else other than JR

There was a lot of lower body contact and sometimes that gets called, and it looked like Smith's elbow hit Harden's shoulder area when he shot it. Just a funky shooting motion on that shot though

12and4
04-23-2011, 10:11 PM
NBA refs are a joke.. they called that same foul against us and gave westbrook 3 ft's a couple games back... kiss my ass.

Broncoholic JS
04-23-2011, 10:12 PM
I hate the Thunder, Kevin Durant, and Russel Westbrook.

Grrrrrr

COME ON NUGGETS!!

P.S. - God, why do you hate the Nuggets so much? Also, how much does it cost to pay off the refs? David Stern and OKC have done a fine job of it so far.

Broncoholic JS
04-23-2011, 10:15 PM
I will never give credit to OKC for winning a game. They have help from the referees. it's pretty unfortunate that this happens in the NBA. David Stern will never do anything about it either. He only cares about his superstars.

the0rangecrush
04-23-2011, 10:15 PM
Karl needs to lock the entire team in the gym and make them shoot FTs nothing but FTs. Then when we are proficient practice wait for it passing, way to many TOs. Factor in Missed FTs and a lot if TOs and you'd be hard pressed to beat any team

Broncoholic3233
04-23-2011, 10:19 PM
I wish bad things on Westbrook. He's quickly become the player I despise the most. Congrats Manu, move aside.

Broncoholic JS
04-23-2011, 10:20 PM
NBA refs are a joke.. they called that same foul against us and gave westbrook 3 ft's a couple games back... kiss my ass.

Quoted For TRUTH!!

Broncoholic JS
04-23-2011, 10:21 PM
I wish bad things on Westbrook. He's quickly become the player I despise the most. Congrats Manu, move aside.

Deron Williams gets that love from me, even as a Net sitting at home.

ERoyal248
04-23-2011, 10:22 PM
NBA refs are a joke.. they called that same foul against us and gave westbrook 3 ft's a couple games back... kiss my ass.

Didn't the Nuggets out-shoot the Thunder at the FT line tonight, and that was with Denver fouling at the end of the game.

Broncoholic3233
04-23-2011, 10:27 PM
Series being over. Hurt the Thunder, rough em up especially that punk Westbrook. Make sure they can't advance past the 2nd round.

12and4
04-23-2011, 10:30 PM
Didn't the Nuggets out-shoot the Thunder at the FT line tonight, and that was with Denver fouling at the end of the game.

That kiss my ass comment was directed at you.

Broncoholic JS
04-23-2011, 10:38 PM
How come a clear path foul wasn't called on Durant late in the game?

hmmmmmmm

Broncoholic JS
04-23-2011, 10:40 PM
We were down 0-2 against the number 1 seed in the NBA back in 1994 the Seattle SuperSonics coached by George Karl.

We came back and won the series.

We are down 0-3 against that same franchise but with George Karl as our Head Coach.

hmmmmmmmmm

Broncoholic3233
04-23-2011, 10:53 PM
Just got back. I want Westbrook to cry next game. :fight:


Oh, and ERoyal, just saw the replay on DVR. JR was contacted with Body, as long as hit on the Elbow.

Bad shot, bad play, but it was a foul. Westbrook shooting that? 3 whistles....

ERoyal248
04-23-2011, 10:59 PM
Just got back. I want Westbrook to cry next game. :fight:


Oh, and ERoyal, just saw the replay on DVR. JR was contacted with Body, as long as hit on the Elbow.

Bad shot, bad play, but it was a foul. Westbrook shooting that? 3 whistles....

There was some contact, but not enough to call a foul on that play, just my .2 cents.

Broncoholic3233
04-23-2011, 11:01 PM
There was some contact, but not enough to call a foul on that play, just my .2 cents.

Probably not. But, try to answer honestly, would Westbrook/Durant get the call if it was them shooting?

ERoyal248
04-23-2011, 11:05 PM
Probably not. But, try to answer honestly, would Westbrook/Durant get the call if it was them shooting?

LOL, Durant most definately, he's a superstar.

Westbrook maybe, maybe not.

Broncoholic3233
04-23-2011, 11:08 PM
LOL, Durant most definately, he's a superstar.

Westbrook maybe, maybe not.
The correct answer is, they both get the whistle.


That is what the NBA is, it sucks....

12and4
04-23-2011, 11:08 PM
There was some contact, but not enough to call a foul on that play, just my .2 cents.

what the hell am I gonna do with 1/5th of a penny?

Broncoholic3233
04-23-2011, 11:29 PM
Tough series. We just got the team we apparently don't match-up very well with. At least a rivalry will be sparked out of this. We are going to HATE this Thunder team.

With all the injuries down the stretch the team just lost its rhythm. We were passing the ball great, playing shut down defense and just playing as a team. When everyone went down, the chemistry and rhythm just seemed to get lost. We are playing a mental game with ourselves right now with our FT game, and same thing with our shooting, especially in the 4th quarter.

I like this team still so much better than I liked the Melo team. I feel this team is going to be great for years to come. We just need to lock up some of our players, and make a few decisions on who to keep or who to trade. It'd be nice to get a legitimate 5 somehow.


I'm very excited about this teams future, and I'm not going to let one series, when were just off, ruin my hopes about this team.


GO NUGGETS!!

Let's at least win one more in front of the home crowd, if not win the next 4. :P

johnlimburg
04-24-2011, 01:24 AM
Geroge Karl with some stupid lineups at times tonight. JR should have been in for the last 3 minutes. Not 40 seconds. No one could hit a shot. Everyone looked scared to take a shot. AAA, Lawson, Felton, Nene were just passing. Pretty disappointed the way it looks like it is going to end. I am looking forward to the next game. It aint over till it over but in the offseason we need to move a few guys IMO. Trade Gallo, Felton, Nene. Resign AAA for like a 5 mill per year deal.

AAA started strong but scored like 4 points in the last 3 quarters. His impact wasnt all that great.

Go nuggs. lets win these 4 games and someone punch Westbrooks head inside out.

JR was fouled on that last shot. No doubt if it was Durant it would have went whistle-whistle-whistle-whistle-whistle. The officials would have ran from there positions like it was a fight and said you just took Durants head off. Bad call. One of many hard calls we got against us.

milehighireland
04-24-2011, 02:24 AM
Another year, another first round exit. we're just not that good, we just had a honeymoon period. we'll hover at around .500 next year.

Axemaster
04-24-2011, 06:41 AM
There was some contact, but not enough to call a foul on that play, just my .2 cents.

Any other team, or any other player, thats three free throws right there. Not only fouled on the shot, but fouled like twice BEFORE the shot! justmy2cents,,,,, whatever:goz:

Axemaster
04-24-2011, 06:44 AM
And the Thunders chumpassed homer of a radio announcer had the balls to say Harden cleanly BLOCKED the ball!!! Obviously the refs agreed with him!

Dont really matter when you shoot 15% in the fourth, and hit under 70% of the foul shots u deserve to lose!

BluenOrnge4Life
04-24-2011, 08:28 AM
Down 3-0? Bottom line is this team is not mentally tough enough and it showed in the playoffs when the intensity increases. Injuries aside, we should have been able to grab one of the first 3 games - that's what good teams do.

the0rangecrush
04-24-2011, 09:27 AM
I think we need to look at what everyone else has, that we done

Lakers-Pau/Bynum
Grizzlies-Gasol
Spurs-Duncan
Thunder-Ibakas/Perkins
Mavericks-Dirk
NO- Okafor
Portland-Wallace/Camby

Now the east
Bulls- Noah/Boozer
Heat-Bosh
Pacers-Brand
Celtics-KG/oneal
Knicks-Stoudelmire
Orlando-Howard
ATL-Crawford/Harrington

Look at all the teams that are getting bounced early, and the guys who are making legit runs. We need a presence in the middle, honestly I would break the bank for a guy like Derrick Williams, but that's just me.

Broncoholic3233
04-24-2011, 10:03 AM
Wow. Surprised how hard some of you are taking it, don't let it cloud your view this much.


I'm about as die hard as it comes for the Nuggets, and this is killing me inside. But I am not letting it cloud my view of this team.


I gotta lot to say, and I will say it, but, more than likely its going to be long winded. I'd appreciate it, if you would read it and give me your thoughts, even though it will be pretty long.

I'll type it all out when I get a second.

beastlyskronk
04-24-2011, 10:03 AM
Right now I'd put all my money into JR Smith. Let him play a lot of minutes this next game, I just feel like he's going to come out with that fire and intensity after how last night's game went.

Also Perkins should have got called for pushing Nene. Not only would have negated the points on the other end but it would have gave us free throws.

Frenchy180
04-24-2011, 10:20 AM
I'm realizing why they say you need a superstar to win in the playoffs... not because of skill or talent but that's the only way you'll get any calls.

Broncoholic3233
04-24-2011, 10:32 AM
Here is my view on the team right now:

Well, right now, we are going against one of the best teams in the Western Conference. There is no doubt about it, I asked for it, and I am regretting it to an extent. I am regretting it, but I truly think we are in almost every other series (maybe not the Lakers). But, before all the injuries, I really thought we had a legit chance against the Thunder, so did a lot of people. At the very least, this gives this team good playoff experience against a very good team, as well as makes a rivalry between the teams, that I am sure a lot of us wanted.

When this trade went down, I feel like I was one of the few that remained optimistic, that we would still be in the top tier of the Western Conference. Luckily, we were, and this new look Nuggets team was great. It still is that great team we saw go 18-7, even with a bunch of injuries. However, we really lost our rhythm/confidence I feel when every started to drop, getting closer to playoff times. You can see it in the players; the Chemistry doesnít look to be the same as it was before the injuries. We arenít passing like we used to, and we just donít look comfortable. However, you have to give the Thunders defense a lot of credit as well.

We are playing mental games with ourselves right now, and that is really ruining our confidence. We are a much better FT shooting team than what we are displaying, obviously. That is all mental, between the new players and the old, Nene most importantly. He is usually a 75% FT shooter, but right now he is shooting about 50% probably.

My point is donít give up on this new look Nuggets team. If we were playing almost any other team, aside from the Lakers, we arenít down 3-0, I really think we are probably up 2-1. This Thunder team just has our number right now, they know how to get under our skin, they are playing the perfect defense and they are just a really good, young team. If we were up 2-1 in a different series, none of you would be worried like you are right now. Our future is still VERY bright, we just need to make some changes.

We more than likely are going to lose JR Smith this year. Depending on the $ situation with K-Mart, we might lose him, that will hurt, he is this team leader. Then, it is really anybodyís guess with the Knick players that came over in the trade. Iíd say Gallo gets a new contract, and Timofey is safe too. Depending on what Felton wants to do, Iím sure we will offer him a contract, he just wonít be starting, but heíll still get starter like minutes. Chandler, well he is a question make, with his lingering foot injury, I donít know if we take the chance or not.

It is going to be an interesting offseason for sure. Our main need would be a legit 5, Nene just isnít that, and he wonít ever be, it would appear. He would be a great 4 however. I do believe Marc Gasol is a FA, but man, I really doubt the Grizzlies will let him go. Then, there are some players in the draft Iíd like to get, but nobody in the draft is proven, so it will be a risk either way. Derrick Williams, Iíd love to get him, very doubtful, and also he is undersized, he really isnít that big at all. But, if we can, It would be awesome.

So my point of this long winded post is, DONíT start freaking out now, just because of one bad series. Injuries are to blame a lot right now. It is obvious Felton/Ty arenít 100%, you can see it in their burst, they donít have their normal burst, and arenít able to drive like they used to. We missed AAA the first two games, and he definitely wasnít 100%. Along with that, the rhythm/chemistry we had going was interrupted when everyone started getting hurt, just very unfortunate. Plus, weíve only been together for like 25 games, itís going to take longer than that to really, really get comfortable with everyone, and play as a complete team.

As for having a superstar, I am glad we don't have one. You need one to get calls sure, but we are going to be that team that David Stern HATES to see do well.

This Nuggets team, depending on the moves we make, will win 47-53 games next year. I am very confident in that, and weíll just have to see what happens in the offseason.

The series isnít over yet, hell they have won 5 in a row, granted against an injured Nuggets team, but we can easily do the same. I doubt we will, but hey, if we can get a win or two, it will really boost our confidence and crazier things have happened.


GO NUGGETS!!!!

Axemaster
04-24-2011, 11:57 AM
I'm realizing why they say you need a superstar to win in the playoffs... not because of skill or talent but that's the only way you'll get any calls.

ABSOLUTLY! Someone has to take over for the JORAN RULES, do they not???

Axemaster
04-24-2011, 12:01 PM
All things considered, if they hit Free Throws like normal, they win games 1 and 3, and are up 2-1 going into game 4, things are a lot different then.:goz:

12and4
04-24-2011, 12:52 PM
I'm realizing why they say you need a superstar to win in the playoffs... not because of skill or talent but that's the only way you'll get any calls.

This is what I was getting at. You just can't keep fighting the system playing 8 vs 5... We'll see how we do next season, when the team chemistry is better and everyone knows their roles. Maybe get a nice acquisition or two. I have high hopes for this group of guys, but also I'm having my doubts about a superstar-less team.

beastlyskronk
04-24-2011, 02:11 PM
Honestly I'm confused as to why Karl is still letting Chandler shoot. It's obvious that he's still hurting and he's expending all his energy gaurding Durant. I'd keep playing him because he is doing a good job on Durant but I don't think we should let him shoot on offense unless it's an easy layup/dunk.

Also in last night's game we shouldn't have let Nene sit out for so long, he was the catalyst for their guys getting in foul trouble, when he went out they stopped fouling as much. I'd like to see us go to him more down low, I don't think they have anyone that can guard him in the post. Ibaka might get a few blocks but I think Nene would draw more fouls and force him to tone down his agression. Karl hasn't done a great job of coaching this series imo.

JakeNbake
04-24-2011, 02:14 PM
Honestly I'm confused as to why Karl is still letting Chandler shoot. It's obvious that he's still hurting and he's expending all his energy gaurding Durant. I'd keep playing him because he is doing a good job on Durant but I don't think we should let him shoot on offense unless it's an easy layup/dunk.

Also in last night's game we shouldn't have let Nene sit out for so long, he was the catalyst for their guys getting in foul trouble, when he went out they stopped fouling as much. I'd like to see us go to him more down low, I don't think they have anyone that can guard him in the post. Ibaka might get a few blocks but I think Nene would draw more fouls and force him to tone down his agression. Karl hasn't done a great job of coaching this series imo.

I don't know about Chandler man. I don't believe you should put a player on the floor if you're afraid to let him shoot. Chandler can catch fire. So maybe that will happen. I could see trying to limit him but you can't completely shut a guy down.

beastlyskronk
04-24-2011, 04:48 PM
I don't know about Chandler man. I don't believe you should put a player on the floor if you're afraid to let him shoot. Chandler can catch fire. So maybe that will happen. I could see trying to limit him but you can't completely shut a guy down.

I think he's a streaky shooter when healthy and the fact that he's not healthy and he's using most of his energy on defense is really making him struggle on offense. I'm not saying take him out of offense, let him set some hard screens and roll to the basket or try to find some way to get him an easy short range shot. But as of right now he's not going to make much unless it's close to the basket

johnlimburg
04-24-2011, 05:40 PM
Right now I'd put all my money into JR Smith. Let him play a lot of minutes this next game, I just feel like he's going to come out with that fire and intensity after how last night's game went.

Also Perkins should have got called for pushing Nene. Not only would have negated the points on the other end but it would have gave us free throws.

Me too. i would just start JR. This offense has been horrible. He chucked a little bit after he got hot yesterday but no one could hit anything anyway. He actually wanted to take the shots at the end also. Every other player was just passing. Afflalo, Felton, Nene. No one wanted the rock. I would give JR majority of the minutes. I hate the two PG sets and always have. Leave JR or Trip A in the game at all times at the 2 guard.

beastlyskronk
04-24-2011, 05:44 PM
Me too. i would just start JR. This offense has been horrible. He chucked a little bit after he got hot yesterday but no one could hit anything anyway. He actually wanted to take the shots at the end also. Every other player was just passing. Afflalo, Felton, Nene. No one wanted the rock. I would give JR majority of the minutes. I hate the two PG sets and always have. Leave JR or Trip A in the game at all times at the 2 guard.

Yeah OKC always puts Harden in when we go with 2 PGs, it's a huge height mismatch but Karl never subs out of it. Plus Westbrook is taller than Felton and Lawson as well. Actually for the next game we should probably go with a 2 SG look, have Smith and Afflalo in the game at the same time. Afflalo can guard Westbrook and have Smith on either Harden or Sefalosha.

Broncoholic3233
04-24-2011, 05:56 PM
JR ain't a starter. Don't want him starting either.

However, as long as he isn't playing dumb, I'd like to see some more minutes from him.

He's a perfect 6 man engery dude.

Broncoholic3233
04-25-2011, 02:49 PM
Going to the game again. Let's hope we at least win one game this series



GO NUGGETS

Atwnbroncfan
04-25-2011, 07:00 PM
Disappointing that we lost but we haven't executed in the end. Hate to say it but I bet on the thunder saturday. Vegas had the nuggets as 5 point favorites, I know if we are going to win it is going to be a close game.

The Experience
04-25-2011, 07:18 PM
Disappointing that we lost but we haven't executed in the end. Hate to say it but I bet on the thunder saturday. Vegas had the nuggets as 5 point favorites, I know if we are going to win it is going to be a close game.

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BluenOrnge4Life
04-25-2011, 07:27 PM
Here is my view on the team right now:

Well, right now, we are going against one of the best teams in the Western Conference. There is no doubt about it, I asked for it, and I am regretting it to an extent. I am regretting it, but I truly think we are in almost every other series (maybe not the Lakers). But, before all the injuries, I really thought we had a legit chance against the Thunder, so did a lot of people. At the very least, this gives this team good playoff experience against a very good team, as well as makes a rivalry between the teams, that I am sure a lot of us wanted.

When this trade went down, I feel like I was one of the few that remained optimistic, that we would still be in the top tier of the Western Conference. Luckily, we were, and this new look Nuggets team was great. It still is that great team we saw go 18-7, even with a bunch of injuries. However, we really lost our rhythm/confidence I feel when every started to drop, getting closer to playoff times. You can see it in the players; the Chemistry doesnít look to be the same as it was before the injuries. We arenít passing like we used to, and we just donít look comfortable. However, you have to give the Thunders defense a lot of credit as well.

We are playing mental games with ourselves right now, and that is really ruining our confidence. We are a much better FT shooting team than what we are displaying, obviously. That is all mental, between the new players and the old, Nene most importantly. He is usually a 75% FT shooter, but right now he is shooting about 50% probably.

My point is donít give up on this new look Nuggets team. If we were playing almost any other team, aside from the Lakers, we arenít down 3-0, I really think we are probably up 2-1. This Thunder team just has our number right now, they know how to get under our skin, they are playing the perfect defense and they are just a really good, young team. If we were up 2-1 in a different series, none of you would be worried like you are right now. Our future is still VERY bright, we just need to make some changes.

We more than likely are going to lose JR Smith this year. Depending on the $ situation with K-Mart, we might lose him, that will hurt, he is this team leader. Then, it is really anybodyís guess with the Knick players that came over in the trade. Iíd say Gallo gets a new contract, and Timofey is safe too. Depending on what Felton wants to do, Iím sure we will offer him a contract, he just wonít be starting, but heíll still get starter like minutes. Chandler, well he is a question make, with his lingering foot injury, I donít know if we take the chance or not.

It is going to be an interesting offseason for sure. Our main need would be a legit 5, Nene just isnít that, and he wonít ever be, it would appear. He would be a great 4 however. I do believe Marc Gasol is a FA, but man, I really doubt the Grizzlies will let him go. Then, there are some players in the draft Iíd like to get, but nobody in the draft is proven, so it will be a risk either way. Derrick Williams, Iíd love to get him, very doubtful, and also he is undersized, he really isnít that big at all. But, if we can, It would be awesome.

So my point of this long winded post is, DONíT start freaking out now, just because of one bad series. Injuries are to blame a lot right now. It is obvious Felton/Ty arenít 100%, you can see it in their burst, they donít have their normal burst, and arenít able to drive like they used to. We missed AAA the first two games, and he definitely wasnít 100%. Along with that, the rhythm/chemistry we had going was interrupted when everyone started getting hurt, just very unfortunate. Plus, weíve only been together for like 25 games, itís going to take longer than that to really, really get comfortable with everyone, and play as a complete team.

As for having a superstar, I am glad we don't have one. You need one to get calls sure, but we are going to be that team that David Stern HATES to see do well.

This Nuggets team, depending on the moves we make, will win 47-53 games next year. I am very confident in that, and weíll just have to see what happens in the offseason.

The series isnít over yet, hell they have won 5 in a row, granted against an injured Nuggets team, but we can easily do the same. I doubt we will, but hey, if we can get a win or two, it will really boost our confidence and crazier things have happened.


GO NUGGETS!!!!

I agreed with a lot of this and I don't think we will be a sub .500 team next year like some believe. In fact, if this same team comes back next year, I think we win more than 50 games.

We just got a 1st round matchup - that I definitely didn't want - against a contending team.

But there are still a lot of questions with this roster going forward and I still question the toughness/basketball iq with several of the players on this team.

I do think we have some pieces here to build up on in hopes of building a championship team. Let's hope the front office makes the right moves going forward.

Broncoholic JS
04-25-2011, 07:50 PM
Hope Kenyon Martin Smackdowns Kevin Durant tonight!!

LETS GO NUGGETS!!!

Broncoholic JS
04-25-2011, 07:52 PM
Thunder already been to the line 4 times...smh

12and4
04-25-2011, 08:51 PM
Thanks for making birdy mad

beastlyskronk
04-25-2011, 09:24 PM
I'm tired of seeing us play peek-a-boo defense with these screens. Go around or fight through it, don't let the screen stop you.

johnlimburg
04-25-2011, 09:27 PM
JR should be in instead of Trip A.

beastlyskronk
04-25-2011, 09:31 PM
Gallinari is heating up but I still don't think he has any type of grasp on our offense yet, either that or he's still mad at the charge so he's trying to put the team on his back. Bottom line is I haven't seen him pass much.

Broncoholic JS
04-25-2011, 09:42 PM
3,000th post says

GO NUGGETS!!!!

Broncoholic JS
04-25-2011, 09:43 PM
Anyone else fed up with the OKC bench and the way they react to everything?

It is borderline technical stuff for taunting and such....getting tired of it!

GO NUGGETS!!!

Broncoholic JS
04-25-2011, 09:47 PM
Hey OKC, if you can't close it out tonight or at home Wednesday you DONT want to come back on Friday to Pepsi!! It will be some Chicago Blackhawks stuff!! Game 7 for sure!!!

COME ON NUGGETS!!!!!!!

We are louder tonight (in an elimination game) than OKC has been combined in game 1 and 2. Truth

Broncoholic JS
04-25-2011, 09:59 PM
I know a few people here don't see JR back, but I hope we re-sign him! I like that guy!!

FOR THREEEEEEEEEEEE

GOOOOOO NUGGETS!!

beastlyskronk
04-25-2011, 10:00 PM
Seriously, JR is huge for us. We need him, he's so in tune with our crowd. He provides so much energy for our team and he's the best pure offensive player on the team